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Intel Pentium G4560 Dual Core 4 Threads 3.5ghz lga1151 Kaby lake £51.99 @ Ebuyer

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Great starter Kaby lake chip. Great performance for the price, slightly slower than an i3 but significantly cheaper. Select 5 day shipping for free delivery. Intel Kaby Lake is Skylake perfected… Read More
Great starter Kaby lake chip. Great performance for the price, slightly slower than an i3 but significantly cheaper. Select 5 day shipping for free delivery. Intel Kaby Lake is Skylake perfected…
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Silly question for those in the know I guess, but is this a better option than an i3 7100 to save £60 and go straight for an i5 in a couple of years on a B250M-K mobo? Already have a 1060 3GB and playing GTAV online and similar games on a still very capable i5-2500, but as my setup is slowly dying I'm looking into a new mobo (which means new rams and CPU as well...)
Thinking about B250 for the M2 slot, and M2 SSD 250gb, i3 7100 or this, 8-16GB DDR4 2400 and obviously to keep my existing PSU (new corsair - don't remember the name) and 1060 and 8593453 arctic fans. Only worried if this could bottleneck during busy online sessions either on GTA V or any MMO I might start?
Any help much appreciated!

In games at least, the i3 7100 will only be 14% faster in areas where the CPU is the limiting factor. And you're paying over twice the price for that relatively small bump to performance.
Silly question for those in the know I guess, but is this a better option than an i3 7100 to save £60 and go straight for an i5 in a couple of years on a B250M-K mobo? Already have a 1060 3GB and playing GTAV online and similar games on a still very capable i5-2500, but as my setup is slowly dying I'm looking into a new mobo (which means new rams and CPU as well...)

Thinking about B250 for the M2 slot, and M2 SSD 250gb, i3 7100 or this, 8-16GB DDR4 2400 and obviously to keep my existing PSU (new corsair - don't remember the name) and 1060 and 8593453 arctic fans. Only worried if this could bottleneck during busy online sessions either on GTA V or any MMO I might start?

Any help much appreciated!
Got o0ne.
dragonline77
vulcanproject
dragonline77
i have an old ati radeon GPU, do you reckon i could find a mobo and htpc case for it? possibly even a sff case.
How old is the GPU and are you trying to game? If not and if it is really old you may as well build the machine without using it and rely on the integrated graphics of this. Then you can fit it in a tiny case, it draws so little power/creates little heat.
i have a XFX fx 785A CDFC VC.4 and an ati radeon HD 4870.

Well, the HD4870 is probably a bit old to useful as a media pc (or for gaming) and unsure about drivers.

The onboard Intel HD610 is still slower but has current driver. Although far worse value, for anyone wanting to use one of these Kabylake Pentiums in a media PC, the next one up from this the G4600 has the far more cable HD630.

That XFX is a 7850 which is still not that much slower than current £80 or so cards (RX 460, 950Ti etc.) but does use a bit more power. And for a SFF case it is possible a bit long. However, those cards should be quite good for undervolting and underclocking (with a bit of trial and error) at the cost of some speed, but making them far quieter.
vulcanproject
dragonline77
i have an old ati radeon GPU, do you reckon i could find a mobo and htpc case for it? possibly even a sff case.

How old is the GPU and are you trying to game? If not and if it is really old you may as well build the machine without using it and rely on the integrated graphics of this. Then you can fit it in a tiny case, it draws so little power/creates little heat.


i have a XFX fx 785A CDFC VC.4 and an ati radeon HD 4870.

Edited By: dragonline77 on Mar 29, 2017 16:15: gpu name
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DeepCool CPU Liquid Cooler AIO CAPTAIN 120 EX £34.98 + £39.16 inc P&P Ebuyer

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This CPU has a lot of positive reviews everywhere I've looked. I've just ordered mine with Next Day Delivery for £42 It was £100 on Amazon, currently reduced to £70, so a serious bargain at £35.… Read More
This CPU has a lot of positive reviews everywhere I've looked. I've just ordered mine with Next Day Delivery for £42 It was £100 on Amazon, currently reduced to £70, so a serious bargain at £35.…
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My Kraken :D

I agree with the others, you need a bigger radiator especially if you want it halfway quiet. Mine is 280MM for reference.

Otherwise get a Noctua, cool and quiet.

Edited By: The_Hoff on Mar 23, 2017 19:05: .
MarcoLoves360
does this work on am4?
DeepCool themselves don't list it as having AM4 on their spec sheet and when you use their compatibility checker it comes up as not compatible with the 1700, 1700x and 1800x.

Source: http://www.gamerstorm.com/product/CPULIQUIDCOOLER/2016-04/1286_5089.shtml

That said, they do seem to be intending to release an AM4 bracket by the end of March for their "Captain EX" range of coolers:

Source: http://deepcool.com/press/news/2017-02/65_6567.shtml
does this work on am4?
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Something to be aware of:- ebuyer have been known to sell refurb components as new.
any proof of this?
Happened to an online friend of mine, who ordered a motherboard from them.

Okay but to be fair one single case of anecdotal evidence isn't exactly the whole story. Given the damage it could do to their reputation plus the potential legal trouble I doubt it's really something they go for.
Conversely I have bought literally hundreds of items from ebuyer (yes seriously, hundreds) and have never come across this issue. Also their after sales support / returns have been fantastic so I doubt returning something that appears to be used would be an issue in the slightest (infact I know it wouldn't because they accept returns for any reason within 14 days of delivery)
Building my younger sister a budget red and black pc, so this deal is perfect. Thanks! ;)
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Ambiano Food Processor (1000W) for only £49.99!! In store only @ Aldi

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- 1000 Watts food processor for only £49.99. (In Store only) - I bought mine from Crawley branch - there is one or two more to go Brand: Ambiano Capacity: Bowl Capacity: 1.2L (No liquid food: Ma… Read More
- 1000 Watts food processor for only £49.99. (In Store only) - I bought mine from Crawley branch - there is one or two more to go Brand: Ambiano Capacity: Bowl Capacity: 1.2L (No liquid food: Ma…
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Just to let you know that more stock is now available in Crawley and Ewil branches
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ASUS RT-AC87U AC2400 Dual-Band Gigabit Wireless Router, Access Point Mode, Dual-Processor + Dual-Core CPU, USB 3.0, Time Machine, 3G/4G Dongle Support £127.99 @ Amazon

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Link to camelcamelcamel Apparently the cheapest it has ever been...
Yuzepe Avatar2m, 1w agoFound 2 months, 1 week ago42 Comments
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MazingerZ
Argh looking for a good modem+router


Just buy a separate BT Openreach modem off ebay (got mine for £12 delivered years ago). Used it with Sky and now BT. Then connect that modem to the router of your choice.
xavierzzz
I have used a few Asus expensive routers including this ASUS RT-AC87U and a ASUS DSL-AC68U, they all have little but frustrating issues, things like taking ages to reconnect after re-boot, all show as working & connected but no internet, all cable connected devices work but not the wifi...which eventually put me off
I agreed Asus's routers look cool and they are good spec hardware-wise, but I think their software are too complicated and unfinished which makes the devices are so unstable, on top of that, they are more expensive than the others.
I recently switched to TP-LINK Archer, much happier with it.

Which tp link did you looking at replacing my d20 for the archer vr400
They have half a dozen or so "used like new" warehouse deals for 122.87. One of them reads "Item is in original, pristine packaging. Products that have been water tested may contain residual water or water marks. Products that have been factory tested may contain traces of coffee in the mill.". I find that covering my router in coffee and submerging it in water helps boost performance.
Word of warning to anyone on Sky Broadband (ADSL), if you are looking to have a separate dsl modem + Wifi Router like this one as your configuration, most standalone DSL modems will not work in bridge mode with a Wifi Router.

This is because Sky only seem to allow PPPoA connections (unlike BT which allow both PPPoA & PPPoE). I found this out the hard way after reading forums for several hours on end. Therefore you cannot put the modem in bridge mode and end up with double NAT. The closest you can get to bridge mode at that point is to put the Wifi router into the DMZ of the dsl modem to avoid it.

The forum posts were a bit old in date (1 or 2 years) but apparently the only way to achieve this setup with the dsl modem in bridge mode on Sky is to buy either a Draytek Vigor 120 or 130 dsl modem which supports PPPoA to PPPoE bridging. Not sure if they are any *other* dsl modems so far that support this yet...?

Needless to say the draytek modems are more expensive than your average dsl modem. £50ish for the 120 and £80ish for the 130, I think....
tanked
MazingerZ
Argh looking for a good modem+router
I hate being on ADSL. Tempted to get this Netgear modem but not sure if it might downgrade this ASUS router in some way when combined!?!https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Modems/NETGEAR-DM200-100EUS-Broadband-High-Speed-DSL-Modem/B01GL3YPHI/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1490013579&sr=1-1&keywords=netgear+adsl

Which ISP are you on?
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MD Ryzen 7 1700X 95 W 8/16 Core 3.8 GHz 4 MB CPU - Black - £363.70 @ Amazon

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Dropped in price slightly makes it more of a bargain for a great CPU! Have one myself. Read More
Dropped in price slightly makes it more of a bargain for a great CPU! Have one myself.
worf201 Avatar2m, 1w agoFound 2 months, 1 week ago4 Comments
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Ignore the intel shills, why would you wait for a r5 quad core, when this is a 8c/16t...
Yes, ignore all those Intel shills recommending that people wait to get a different AMD CPU instead...
Great cpu, easily overclock to match 1800x. Ignore the intel shills, why would you wait for a r5 quad core, when this is a 8c/16t...This is the best price if you have compatible parts. I recommend a Taichi motherboard with Corsair LPX Black 3200mhz ddr4. Works straight out the box.
As well as motherboard availability issues that will take about another 4 weeks to resolve
While the price is decent, unless you're desperate for a new PC, I'd wait a a few more weeks for the Ryzen R5 series which will include the 4 and 6 core CPUs.

There are also a lot of motherboard and DDR4 memory compatibility issues right now which gives more reason to wait until these are ironed out.
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Cooler Master Seidon 240V All-in-one Blue LED CPU Liquid Cooling Kit £47.69 @ CCL online

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cheaper from ccl directly rather than the ebay link posted yesterday. used the 120 version of this myself on my last build and was impressed. this is a bargain at this price point. Read More
cheaper from ccl directly rather than the ebay link posted yesterday. used the 120 version of this myself on my last build and was impressed. this is a bargain at this price point.
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That tubing doesn't look appealing at all.
SouthamptonUK2017
BEWARE!!!My security settings are good enough to capture this kind of thing :
Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information from go.skimlinks.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID
This server could not prove that it is go.skimlinks.com; its security certificate is from go.redirectingat.com. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. Learn more. Proceed to go.skimlinks.com (unsafe)
Scary stuff guys!oO
Where did you get that error from?
Anyway, it is go.skimlinks.com that has its SSL certificate's common name as go.redirectingat.com - it looks like a random ad that has incorrect SSL, who cares :p
BEWARE!!!

My security settings are good enough to capture this kind of thing :

Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information from go.skimlinks.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID

This server could not prove that it is go.skimlinks.com; its security certificate is from go.redirectingat.com. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. Learn more. Proceed to go.skimlinks.com (unsafe)

Scary stuff guys!oO
I was given one of these. It spent 15 minutes in my system. Terrible temperatures and noise compared to my noctua dh15.
Also though do you think it'll be good temps for a overclock on ryzen ?

Thanks
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AMD Ryzen 7 1700X CPU - 3.8GHz £299.14 + £5.48 Shipping @ Amazon.fr £304.62

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Edit 2: Back at €349.99 = £299.14 Edit 1: Price went down from £321 to £302. Thanks nellygtfc Idealo: £360.10 @Ballicom / £363.79 @Amazon https://m.idealo.co.uk/compare/5406078/amd-ryzen-7-1700x… Read More
Edit 2: Back at €349.99 = £299.14 Edit 1: Price went down from £321 to £302. Thanks nellygtfc Idealo: £360.10 @Ballicom / £363.79 @Amazon https://m.idealo.co.uk/compare/5406078/amd-ryzen-7-1700x…
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Wow, it's dropped down to 349.99 Euros again! So £299.33 + £5.48 Shipping @ Amazon.fr £304.81 ;)
Back down from 410 to 359.90 Euros, which equates to £308.46 + £5.48 Shipping @ Amazon.fr £313.94 :)
tempt
At this price, why would anyone go for a 1700?
I guess people just wanting to get the Wraith Spire cooler that's included, the basic 1700 should do mininum 3.9GHz. 1700X back up to 389.99 Euros for now, will probally drop again soon.
At this price, why would anyone go for a 1700?
Price down to 349.99 Euros now! So around £302.66 oO

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15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ 8GB Ram Graphics GTX 1060 - 6.0GB Boot 128gb SSD Storage 1tb £1,278.00 @ PC Specalist

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Chassis & Display Proteus Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080) Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ (2.8GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo)FREE VR Game Bundle with se… Read More
Chassis & Display Proteus Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080) Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ (2.8GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo)FREE VR Game Bundle with se…
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Pcspecialist, UK based. Provider of bespoke gaming laptops. Great team.
Looks decent.
What is this company like in terms of warranty / after care?
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Food Processor and Blender 1300W £59.99 (Was £79.99) - LIDL (Silvercrest) - 3 Year Warranty

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Professional 1300W Food Processor and Blender £59.99 - Reduced from £79.99 - National LIDL deal Useful for Kneading, Mixing and Blending 10 Speed Settings and Pulse Function Swing Arm for easy Acce… Read More
Professional 1300W Food Processor and Blender £59.99 - Reduced from £79.99 - National LIDL deal Useful for Kneading, Mixing and Blending 10 Speed Settings and Pulse Function Swing Arm for easy Acce…
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Julan
Well worth it if you bake big cakes, we have used this model for about 3yrs now with no probs, if I had to complain about something I would say its a bit noisy! lol

WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!

That was the other negative I forgot to mention. More akin to my BELLE
Well worth it if you bake big cakes, we have used this model for about 3yrs now with no probs, if I had to complain about something I would say its a bit noisy! lol
jimmybo
At least with Lidl you could try it out and return - because it didn't meet your requirementsBut you must have purchased the processor for £79.99!This is HUKDAt £59.99 it's worth a purchase by HUKD members to see if it meets their requirements ;)


Correct, I did pay the £79.99 as I thought it was a great price at that. I love LIDL stuff normally and shop there every week. Having got it home and seen the SIZE, tested it on Bread, Cake and egg white.....IT WAS Useless. :3
getmeone
Sorry OP but even though it is a good price, I had one and returned it. IT IS HUGE and even with a modest 500g bread mix the frame was twisting.

At least with Lidl you could try it out and return - because it didn't meet your requirements
But you must have purchased the processor for £79.99!
This is HUKD

At £59.99 it's worth a purchase by HUKD members to see if it meets their requirements ;)
thank op..heat
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AMD Athlon X4 845 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor £40.49 @ Ebuyer

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Something something Ryzen Something something Pentium G4560 Still a good price for this slightly older but still capable chip. Not to mention cheaper motherboards too "Beats a G4400" http://te… Read More
Something something Ryzen Something something Pentium G4560 Still a good price for this slightly older but still capable chip. Not to mention cheaper motherboards too "Beats a G4400" http://te…
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Actually, this CPU is as fast as the Pentium G4560 (I think), so might be a cheaper alternative to that platform
Not too bad, this with a second hand £35 mobo.. stick some cheapo ram....
but tbh, probably better just being a pre-built 5 year old machine from ebay for £100..
At least this CPU is Excavator though, probably take this over the 860k
As much as I'm an AMD fan boy, even at this price I'd look at a modern alternative
JimBobJr
Still a good price for this slightly older but still capable chip. Not to mention cheaper motherboards too

The integrated graphics are disabled on these Athlon-branded models though, so £20 cheaper on the CPU and £10 cheaper on the motherboard may not save you anything if you don't already have a spare graphics card.

Plus it's DDR3-only so memory upgrades will be more expensive in future and any budget graphics card isn't going to have the latest features that integrated graphics will offer like a HEVC encoder.

It was worth posting at this price and may be of interest to some but a G4560 is going to be a better choice generally.
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Zoostorm Origin Desktop PC -AMD A4 6300 Processor, 4GB RAM, 1TB Hard Drive, DVD/RW, Windows 10 Home - £168.63 @ amazon warehouse

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Used - Like New Not the fastest but this is a good price i think Get this quick 8)
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i got a refurb dell t7500 (t5500 is smaller and should have got) for 160 from ebay. xeon e5630 processor which has passmark 4500 ish and 12 gb of ram. potential to upgrade to faster xeon and had massive psu for twin graphics in future. so lots of refurb bargains on ebay but this has amazon backing... wonder what max cpu upgrade is?
2220 passmark. so a weaker i3. can get refurb i3 on ebay for 110 to 120 and maybe i5 for this price. but here you have amazon guarantee. eould check psu but cpu bottlenecked by anything over a gtx 750ti anyhow? this plusb750ti for say 75 quid will do you 1080p gaming on low settings or maybe 720p 60fps maxed out.
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AMD Ryzen R7 1700 - Retail Box CPU from Amazon.fr - £297.55 £297.95

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Best price I have seen yet for this CPU, includes the not too shabby Wraith Spire cooler. This CPU seems to offer the best price/performance break especially when including the apparent easy overcl… Read More
Best price I have seen yet for this CPU, includes the not too shabby Wraith Spire cooler. This CPU seems to offer the best price/performance break especially when including the apparent easy overcl…
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The PS4 kicks the Xbox One's ass. It's superior in every way.

Wait...is this the wrong thread?
fma965801
matt101101
Furthermore, AMD could offer the CPU and GPU on one chip, an APU (something neither Intel or NVIDIA could offer)
Um what... Intel have graphics on there CPU's aswell.
AMD are planning a APU later in the year. Late 2017 Zen APU for Mobile. With a APU Desktop in 2018.

http://www.eteknix.com/amd-roadmap-details-raven-ridge-apus-and-pinnacle-ridge-cpus/

Reality is anyone buying a R7 1700 or 1800x would not do so to just buy a budget graphics option. Why spend £300-500 on a CPU if you plan to spend £60-£80 on a graphics card. Makes no sense if building a gaming machine.

Make no mistake to get a 52% improvement Per Core on a new CPU is almost unheard of. Huge leap.
For the TDP, number of cores and price performance AMD will do really well here. Sure compared to i7700k they are behind but piledriver chips were much, much slower.

Sure 7700k will beat AMD today on most games but this AM4 platform could be around for 3 years. Meaning you could slot in a upgraded CPU in 3 years time. Also for me any computer I buy today I would expect to last me 9-10 years. Personally I am happy to wait for the R5 figures.

Long term if I wanted to keep a PC for 8-10 years I would probably want 6-8 cores now. My current rig has 2 cores and that was 10 years back. I think software from gaming firms will start to use more and more core. Just like graphics cards will too with ram on graphics now up to 8gb.

http://wccftech.com/amds-vega-doubles-usable-graphics-memory/

Playstation and Xbox use Jaguar AMD graphics.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-xbox-one-project-scorpio-spec-analysis

Be interesting to see if these upgrade to Zen in due course with a lower TDP. Even a ZEN APU?

Wait and see here. Still wonder if AMD and Intel may still drop prices here.
fma965801
matt101101
Furthermore, AMD could offer the CPU and GPU on one chip, an APU (something neither Intel or NVIDIA could offer)
Um what... Intel have graphics on there CPU's aswell.
Not graphics which can play AAA games at 1080p/900p @ ~30fps with something resembling decent settings, which is what is required from both the PS4 and Xbox One.

Even if some of their higher end Iris graphics are theoretically capable of it in 2017 (and I'm not sure if they are), they certainly weren't back in the early 2010s (remember, a Sandy Bridge i7-2600k from 2011 only had Intel's HD 3000 graphics) when the PS4 and Xbox One would have been being designed.
matt101101
Furthermore, AMD could offer the CPU and GPU on one chip, an APU (something neither Intel or NVIDIA could offer)

Um what... Intel have graphics on there CPU's aswell.
Ryzen R5 range coming out on the 11th April, with 6c/12t from about £220, and with the full 16MB cache of the 8c parts, completely multi unlocked and with a decent cooler! :)
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AMD Ryzen 1700X 3.8GHz £368.99 @ Amazon

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Very good for price - Will OC to 3.9GHz on all cores fairly easily with decent mobo. Very good value especially for highly threaded tasks such as encoding and 3D rendering Read More
Very good for price - Will OC to 3.9GHz on all cores fairly easily with decent mobo. Very good value especially for highly threaded tasks such as encoding and 3D rendering
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I have ordered one via flubit and received an used cpu... open box with thermal paste on it... beware!
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The_Hoff
I won't be drawn in to debate.
That's probably the best attitude for your people to have for the time being, as the facts really don't help you at all. Maybe your favourite company in the whole wide world will do better soon, though. Stay optimistic! :)
BetaRomeo
The_Hoff
Plus, as you failed to comment on, it's not as if AMD are alone in teething issues largely driven by third parties outside of their control. Intel blah blah blah
I use the same judgement there as I do here.
Why didn't I comment on it here? Because it's entirely irrelevant to today's gaming performance - no, wait, entirely irrelevant to performance in general. I wasn't criticising AMD for having issues at launch - you were. I'm looking at the gaming performance on Ryzen and seeing that the i7-7700K leaves every available Ryzen CPU far behind. Which company is behind the best chip doesn't matter to me, although it apparently matters to you - another Ferrari-esque comment which sadly shows your hand. ;)
The_Hoff
...games need optimising for better threading (that's something nobody should be resisting)
Oh, yeah, coding games to use more threads is as simple as that. :D John Carmack, is that you?
The_Hoff
Like i said, don't buy it.
That does seem to be the consensus of the reviews in terms of gaming, true. Don't buy Ryzen.
Hopefully they'll do better with Ryzen 5. They've lost against the 7700K, but I could still see them beating the 7600K.

I won't be drawn in to debate. Sorry.

7700k is a limited one trick pony, enjoy your slice of the past. I'm looking for something bigger.
These are amazingly powerful chips. They can even make a robot act like a human (watch the following and check the message at 2m17s!)

https://youtu.be/kycXcflQJx4

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ASUS X551CA 15.6-inch Laptop (Intel Core i3 3217U 1.8GHz Processor, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVDSM DL, LAN, WLAN, Webcam, Integrated Graphics, Windows 8 Home) £173.38 @ amazon warehouse

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Get it quick i3 could turn up brand new ? Used - Good 173.38
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Well i hope someone here got it
You?
You're joking, right?
Too much for me :p
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/asus-x451ca-14-laptop-intel-core-i3-4gb-ram-130-tesco-direct-2444599


Edited By: Believe_Me on Mar 05, 2017 20:32
Believe_Me
Well i hope someone here got it


You?
Well i hope someone here got it
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Intel i7 6700K - Retail Box CPU @ Amazon.it - £285.50

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Great price for an fully unlocked Intel i7 CPU, few % points slower than Kaby Lake 7700K, but it's around £50 cheaper, not half bad imo :) Dispatched & Sold by Amazon. Paid for in € with a fee Read More
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Ryzen if you use your pc for production and maybe some light gaming.
I7 7700k if you only play games.
Personally I'm a gamer and don't multitask much so Intel wins for me.
Others will have different requirements. Go check Gamers Nexus for detailed review of Ryzen. 1700 is where the value is at if you do video production and on a budget.
Lots of reasons to buy this over a ryzen based system. It's a stable platform without issues and there's a lot of software that requires a intel based CPUs. Emulation and older games require fewer cores but stronger ipc so Dolphin, Cemu etc are better.
I've been waiting since my 1090t for games to utilise all my cores and only a few take advantage of it. I think I noticed garden warfare 2 maxing out my fx8350 but this is rare.
After six odd years waiting for these 8 core games I'm a little jaded over the prospect of them turning up in the next couple of years. I would love a decent 8 core so I could split it into a two machine setup but at £500 I would expect higher single core performance.
Chuggee
I also found this, seems to paint Ryzen in a brighter light than all the other "professional" publications. https://youtu.be/BXVIPo_qbc4

Not sure why all the other major sites are not doing tests like these. Watch_Dogs 2 is a brutal game to run on a modern multicore CPU from the looks of it.


This is one review out of dozens that do say ryzens gaming speed doesn't compare to a 7700k. It's hardly surprising before coding and firmware updates are complete. I would wait a few months and the actual performance is well documented.

However many other people here miss the point completely. The CPU is rarely the bottleneck in most games and the marginal difference the 7700 confers compared to a ryzen is not in doubt. The real question is why is it more important for a processor to have 250fps on over watch than 200?

Ryzen is unoptimised but will only improve. Don't forget console gaming drives most big AAA games and consoles are all based on AMDs 8core processor APUs.

For a pure gamer Ryzen is not the best choice and don't try and pretend it is. However once major games start coming out with better core optimisation it will be highly advantageous. The only problem is that gpus will take years to catch up to that level.
I also found this, seems to paint Ryzen in a brighter light than all the other "professional" publications. https://youtu.be/BXVIPo_qbc4

Not sure why all the other major sites are not doing tests like these. Watch_Dogs 2 is a brutal game to run on a modern multicore CPU from the looks of it.

Edited By: Chuggee on Mar 04, 2017 17:12: .
Chuggee
I was talking about the price equivalent CPU, the R7 1700.
Yes, I was giving Ryzen the benefit there - so seeing the 1700X and 1800X being clearly outperformed by the 7700K suggests that the 1700 will be, too. Unless you're saying that the 1700 is faster than the 1700X and 1800X..?

Chuggee
DX11 is old news. DX12 is the future. DX12 which scales across 6 cores efficiently, and potentially even more depending on the game engine. That's where the link to Cinebench came from, an application which scales efficiently over more than one or two cores is far better than one that is locked to one or two cores. Battlefield already does this, GTA V does it to decent extent, and quite a few more modern games do. DX12 wrapped games do not count as they simply use the DX12 wrapper - they aren't natively coded for the DX12 API, it's just DX11.2 in compatibility mode for DX12 only render situations. That's why performance is not far greater when using DX12 wrapped games, because it isn't native.
I don't think you meant to write "GTA V" there...? GTA V doesn't scale well across multiple cores. Besides...

https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2017/03/Ryzen-Benchmarks-Stock.018-1440x1080.png

Chuggee
Also to the upgrading CPUs? All the more reason to get a futureproofed CPU with more than 4 cores.
I'm really not going to take the time here to explain what threads are. o_O

Chuggee
Synthetic tests are the "best" possible scenario, I used them as an aspiration.
You certainly did. :D

I remember similar aspirations at the time of the Bulldozer launch.

Chuggee
This will be exactly the same scenario when users suggested that 8GB of RAM was plenty for gaming instead of 16GB. Sure 8GB is survivable on a lower end system, but 16GB is the new "standard".
I wouldn't put together a system with less than 16GB of memory anymore, either, but... http://www.techspot.com/article/1043-8gb-vs-16gb-ram/page3.html

Are you judging this based on looking at Windows RAM usage, perhaps? Or just not talking about gaming? Again, theory =/= practice.

Still, I just wish the 480 was a more popular card - the AMD cards hit the CPU a lot more than Nvidia cards. It would have been interesting to see how much Ryzen was affected by that. The only test I could find for that was this one, where an old 4c/4t (t = thread, worth Googling if you're not sure) i5-3570K beats out a Ryzen 1700: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3176100/computers/amd-ryzen-7-1700-vs-a-5-year-old-gaming-pc-or-why-you-should-never-preorder.html?page=2
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This is back down to £298ish. :)
Cheers missed that one. :)
Another big drop, making it almost the same price as a 1700 on Amazon UK.
Uncommon.Sense
tempt
shame the deal got stuck in the nervous nineties, it deserved to go hot.
Well it makes little difference apparently, as re-posting deals at a cheaper price is normal/perfectly acceptable, even if the original post has been update to show the best current price. In the end it just make me put less effort in using search, and having oodles of spam/dupes.
Anyhow, I'll keep this thread update weekly just to keep track of the price for those subscribed. :)
Good man. This live chart tracks the price movements and act as a substitue for times when you may be held up in other activities to update the price chages promptly as they happen.

https://charts.camelcamelcamel.com/fr/B06X3W9NGG/amazon.png?force=1&zero=0&w=725&h=440&desired=false&legend=1&ilt=1&tp=all&fo=0&lang=en
tempt
shame the deal got stuck in the nervous nineties, it deserved to go hot.

Well it makes little difference apparently, as re-posting deals at a cheaper price is normal/perfectly acceptable, even if the original post has been update to show the best current price. In the end it just make me put less effort in using search, and having oodles of spam/dupes.

Anyhow, I'll keep this thread update weekly just to keep track of the price for those subscribed. :)
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4K HDR Xiaomi MI BOX III (3) Android TV. Second only to the expensive Nvidia shield. Get Google Assistant on your TV! @ Aliexpress: £55.52 through the mobile app with a new account coupon. £57.13 through your PC browser. 8% TCB. Shipped in 20-40 days

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If only it had optical out! :/ not even the shield does :( great price and spec though
Can someone who has one of these (or any Android TV box really) please answer a quick question for me. I 'd like to VPN to my home server on one of these devices. Is the VPN a simple to configure, just the same as my Android phone. On my phone I go to settings, Network, VPN, Add VPN then enter URL/Username/Password.

I currently have a Raspberry Pi3 running OpenELEC, but to configure a simple VPN is neigh on impossible.

Thank you in advance.....

Edited By: Voucher.Boy on Mar 11, 2017 09:37
Point I was trying to make was the 3 has several different chassis's, some look exactly alike.

The 3:

Xiaomi MiBox 3
Model Name: MDZ-16-AA (Codename: 'JurassicPark')
Ships with Android 5.1.1 Lollipop

Xiaomi MiBox 3S
Model Name: MDZ-16-AB (Codename also 'JurassicPark')
Ships with official Android TV and supported by Google

Xiaomi MiBox 3 Pro (Enhanced)
Model: MDZ-18-AA (Codename I cant remember)
Ships with Android 5.1.1 Lollipop

Xiaomi MiBox 3s
Model: MDZ-19-AA (Code Name: Queenchristina)
Ships with Android Version: 6.0.1

When the latest 3s was released it was referred to as the '4k' as this is how it was marketed, 4k and official AndroidTV, forums and posts all referred to it as this.

When it was first released, people were trying to flash firmware for the MDZ-19-AA, some were bricked etc

Was just trying to make people aware of the confusion that can happen when you try and search for the 3 for firmware and root. Most of the correct pages will refer to the '4k' while solutions for the '3(s/p)' will pull up info for the Pro or Enhanced and be wrong.

On top of this it was also released at the same time in East and West. USA had bright colourful packaging with free vouchers advertised while the West was shipped in plain brown boxes (as is law).

Now, more confusion arose as sellers like AliExpress etc were just copy/pasting info for it then shipping out different models or 'East' packaging while displaying 'West' pictures on the site.

Some unconfirmed reports also stated that people had received the boxes for the '4k' but the model on the box was MDZ-19-AA.

So, your right, 'officially' its a 3s while 'technically' its a '4k'.


Edited By: IAmTheDude on Mar 07, 2017 09:32
Hmm this or the Wetek ones?
lhwjud
louiselouise
The Enhanced Version doesn't seem to be on Geekbuying - can see this Deal item, the 4K version, and this Mi Box 3 Pro version for £60.83 http://www.geekbuying.com/item/XIAOMI-Mi-Box-3-Pro-MT8693-Dual-Core-64bit--Android-5-1-4K-TV-BOX-Power-VR-GX6250-2G-LPDDR3-8G-Flash--802-11AC-WIFI-Bluetooth4-1-363666.html
Is this Pro version even better? Or does anyone have links for the Enhanced - can see it on Gearbest but it just says Chinese Plug.
Yes this is the one - it was translated into slightly different names in the western world. The easiest way to tell is look at the processor - the one with MT8693 is definitely the enhanced version. Also it only comes in white whereas other less powerful versions are in black.
IAmTheDude
The 4k is the latest version of the box. The Pro and Enhanced are the previous models, different chipset and I think slightly less powerful.
Officially there is no such thing as "4K" version - there's Mi Box 3s / 3c / 3 Enhanced designed for the Chinese market, and all of these support 4K resolution. The Mi Box 3 Enhanced is the most powerful one with Antutu score > 60000. The one in this thread is officially known as Mi Box 3s.
In doubt? Check out the comparison from Xiaomi official website http://www.mi.com/hezi3s/specs/ (in Chinese, use google translate if necessary). Version number, CPU and RAM are highlighted in red.http://i63.tinypic.com/fk7jvl.jpg
Thanks, that's incredibly helpful.

Looks like the sellers of the white box Mi Pro/Enhanced version MT8693-Power-VR-GX6250 (depending on how they advertise it) already supply an adapter for your country - which is fine. I assume the root and ROM install I put on a much older thread still applies.

Geekbuying seems to be the cheapest for the Enhanced box at £61.25 http://www.geekbuying.com/item/XIAOMI-Mi-Box-3-Pro-MT8693-Dual-Core-64bit--Android-5-1-4K-TV-BOX-Power-VR-GX6250-2G-LPDDR3-8G-Flash--802-11AC-WIFI-Bluetooth4-1-363666.html

Also looks like Geekbuying are a bit more helpful than other vendors (I assume) when it comes to giving support for non-Chinese buyers, according to this review:
"It wasn't too hard to change to english using the video and shafa apk that geekbuying provided. You might need to pause it at some steps cause it is a bit fast in some places.
Root and install google services can be found here:
http://flying8pus.blogspot.co.nz/
You may need to update google services from the play store after you follow those instructions on the blog. I did, and then I was able to successfully sign in on official youtube app.
Even after changing to english some parts of the system are still in chinese, but for the most part it is ok. If you use Kodi on this box or another launcher it is no problem. You might want to install an english keyboard for instance.
The wifi had a good range. It has to with no ethernet.
The Box doesn't get hot; it has a quiet fan inside you can only hear for a couple seconds on boot up.
This is a very powerful box, it scored 71132 in Antutu Benchmark 6.1.5
The LG V10 phone only scores 64681 and it has a Snapdragon 808 Processor.
The Oneplus 2 phone only just beat it at 72083 and it has a Snapdragon 810 that is only 1% faster, you won't be able to notice.
The voice search function might be chinese only, I cannot tell because I cannot speak chinese. Everytime I try it nothing happen with my english.
It is a good looking box with a good remote (comes with free batteries) and I do recommend it is very good value for money."
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Mini M8S II 4K Smart TV Box Android Amlogic S905X Quad Core Processor - 2GB+8GB UK PLUG £28.94 @ Gearbest

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kaiser051
Is this compatable with kodi 17 my last box says will not support kodi 17
Reply to myself yes 6.0 lol
Is this compatable with kodi 17 my last box says will not support kodi 17
I'd be put off by the bad wi-fi on this 8GB version.

Anyway, just to say that you can buy the 32GB/2GB S905X Beelink Mini MXIII II (the names do get confusing, basically it's Mk2) for £41.99 from this Chinese seller, UK Plug http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282303565256

Gets a stonking review from RedSkull https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd1GI64KYvs who reckons it runs better than the S912 Beelink GT1! This also has dual band wi-fi which is very good, apparently. Not rooted, though.

Edited By: louiselouise on Mar 08, 2017 02:37
This or Mi Box? or Apple Fire TV?
Voyto
If Kodi is all you want to use it for, Libreelec is a must. My Librelec M8S II puts my £100+ minix box to shame. http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-support/amlogic-based-tv-players/s905x/601907-libreelec-7-0-for-s905-x


Or why not head on over to the LibreELEC community and get it from the 'horses mouth'

https://forum.libreelec.tv/forum-38.html
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id rather choose the 212 evo...4 copper heatpipes vs 3 nah im good
£32 now, expired.
ganon
I did see that earlier, cant remember where I read it but apparently not too quiet.
Worst case scenario if the evga is bad, I'll swap a be quiet 430 l8 I used on an older build which seems very quiet

The coolermaster ones are funny when it comes to sound level, it's the same with their VS series lots of places report them to be silent when in reality they are not at all. Maybe bad QC or they change the fans they use who knows.
It's a bit of minefield shopping for PSUs tbh, especially quiet ones X)
Either way I'm sure ebuyer and/or evga will have you covered so yeah don't sweat it
I did see that earlier, cant remember where I read it but apparently not too quiet.

Worst case scenario if the evga is bad, I'll swap a be quiet 430 l8 I used on an older build which seems very quiet
ganon
derp1664
ganon
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ganon
So who does the best £40-£60 quiet semi modular psu?
Anything SuperFlower or Seasonic OEM.
You can find OEM list here: http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/PSUReviewDatabase.html
And be sure to check jonnyguru review of any you're interested in.
There are other good ones too ofc but can't go wrong with the above.
Just bought this http://www.ebuyer.com/768921-evga-500-bq-power-supply-110-bq-0500-k3
A bit of an unknown as the 500 and 600 variant of the BQ are new, and unlike the 650BQ and 750 BQ which are built by HEC, the OEM for the 500BQ and 600BQ is Andyson who are generally not very good. Also being new, reviews & tear-downs are non-existant thus far.
The upside is EVGA are very good with warranties.
Personally though for what it's worth I'd probably look for something else. Admittedly the price range is a bit of tricky one but there's likely better out there.
What kind of system is it intended for?
Budget PC for video editing and emulation. G4560, 16gb ram and Asus B150i pro itx board bought. Planning to get 1050ti
What modular psu would you recommend at that price?
This but it's non modularhttps://www.scan.co.uk/products/360w-seasonic-psu-g-360-80-plus-gold-12cm-silent-fan-dc-dc
Or this but its slightly more expensivehttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-Certified-Modular-Power-Supply/dp/B00918MQ8G
Maybe try putting the amazon one through Flubit see what they come back with or shop around and see if prices are better elsewhere I only just looked really quickly
Pretty good deal but 2-5weeks delivery https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-Design-Edison-Power-Supply/dp/B00ON2YSRC
I dont think flubit will bring it down too much.
I actually used a fractal psu for my cousins build and im certain the fan noise is coming from the psu so I'll skip that.

Yeah the Fractal doesn't have zero-rpm fan mode but generally the fans they use are reasonably quiet although not always silent so that's fair enough.
There's some modular coolermaster units in the same price range which are reasonable: G550M made by CWT http://www.ebuyer.com/584148-coolermaster-gm-series-550w-semi-modular-80-bronze-power-supply-rs550-amaab1-uk
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copped one. why not for £45
Tempted for my 2600k that's still going strong. How quiet are these? I'm currently running a Noctua nh-d14.
Heat.....though not literally!
Shame the Coolermaster range all suffer from noisy pumps. Went though several before switching to Corsair.
ganon
Will this fit in itx case like the Thermaltake Core V1?
Is there any point getting it if not overclocking?


I have mine installed in Bitfenix Colossus Mini ITX and it fits perfectly. The radiator is pretty slim as well as 120mm fans.
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Excellent spec for the money, core i7 for 350 quid. Was 500 pounds. Bargain.
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not a real deal IMO.
low screen res
HDD with only 5400rpm
dual core processor
I would expect already two of these at this price with perhaps i5
full hd
add or 7200 rpm
quad core
Not gonna happen.
I think the i5 for £255 sounds better value..
spannerzone
Good price but remember that although it's an i7, it's a dual core U series and in many ways is similar in day to day performance as something like an i5 6500u and I doubt you'd actually notice much difference to an i3 u series. What would make a difference is if this thing had an SSD drive in it.

Hopefully AMD Zen/Ryzen will give them a much needed kick up the *rse.
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suchitmehta7
not a real deal IMO.
low screen res
HDD with only 5400rpm
dual core processor
I would expect already two of these at this price with perhaps i5
full hd
add or 7200 rpm
quad core
wut? how many laptops with quad core new cpu and 1080p for 350quid can you link to?
the 7200/5400 rpm thing is not in the same league as those factors so almost irrelevant here
That i5 version is even better value though - can almost get this just to plug into a good external monitor when needed
This isn't a quad core, so don't see that it's worth the extra over the (much) cheaper i5 version.
not sure if you are disagreeing or agreeing with me ...
Neither really, was just clarifying in case people read your comment and thought this was a quad core :)
i expect was just you that read it that way
If I did, others would have done too!
This computer was blatantly a marketing exercise of putting one very high spec component in it (the Core i7 CPU) matching it up with budget hardware and seeing what stuck or if people even read the rest of the spec. As others have noted, it's still decent to have a current gen Core i7 and the U-series are fast but they are nothing more than higher clocked/binned silicon from the i5 of the same gen. Given the choice I would sacrifice the i7 for an i5 and a small SSD.
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AMD Ryzen 7 1700 65 W 8/16 Core 3.7 GHz 4 MB CPU - Amazon £319.99 (Pre-order)

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LN...KL .....VRM ......CF .....like a foreign language for us casual gamers ;)

Edited By: dmm1000 on Mar 03, 2017 15:23
It's £299.90 from Alza.
1700
+ £5 off
works out at roughly £313 on Amazon France
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Woot an RRP deal. I think there are some 1p sweets that are a 1p at the local shop.....Stampeeeeeeed

New joke books also £1 at Poundland mate, get yourself down there pronto.


Will do, maybe look at a book for snappy comebacks too, then flog to you at RRP afterwards.
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Intel Core i5 7600K retail boxed CPU £203.90 @ Amazon Italy

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What's your opinion on Ryzen then?
Gamerlover24
Cracking deal, why so much Intel hate? one question. How the hell do I order this from amazon Italy when i'm in the UK :P

Sorry, missed your comment - same as buying from Amazon.co.uk just need to use Chrome browser or similar to translate the pages. Login using your Amazon account, and follow the screen through to the last checkout page. Make sure you select Pay in € as it will show in GBP since you will be using a card that is GBP as it's main currency.

If you use a fee free credit card, like the Halifax Clarity, or one of the many Virtual Cards on offer then you get the best Forex rate and no fees. :)
Cracking deal, why so much Intel hate? one question. How the hell do I order this from amazon Italy when i'm in the UK :P
The hate for Intel is strong! -82 and falling, first time I'm happy to see a good deal doing badly, even if I did post it! :)
BetaRomeo

I was pointing out that "8-core CPU" doesn't necessarily mean "better than 4-core CPU", as you seemed to be stating. It takes more than just core count to be a good CPU. Otherwise, 8-core Bulldozer CPUs and Exynos 8 Octa CPUs would be outperforming i5s (spoiler: they're not). Any i5 is better than the 8-core FX-8150 for gaming, so you can see that sometimes fewer cores can perform better.
(And for the other people "correcting" me, the quote I was responding to was: "more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer.". Context - ever heard of it? :{)

Ah, apologies for missing that - I will state however as most people interested in the CPU technology sector that the AMD 8 Core CPU's were not really 8 cores, as they shared FPU regs, cache etc. So you can't truly compare, saying more isn't better, since they weren't truly 8 full cores, like the Ryzen design. :)

It's also interesting to see that after nearly a whole day people still hate Intel :D
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Send mine back, the range was terrible, dropped signal after 20 metres from living room to back garden
upgraded to merlin Fw in a couple of steps, just waiting on my modem coming, and then should all be good to go.
burlesy
strocky
How do you change the IP address range on this router?
It defaults to 192.168.1.1
My media server sits on 192.168.0.1
Take a look herehttp://setuprouter.com/router/asus/rt-ac87u/ip-address.htm

Cheers tried that, but get the following error

WAN and LAN should have different IP addresses and subnet

It's a Sky Router so I can't run in Modem mode only

Edited By: strocky on Feb 25, 2017 12:28
strocky
How do you change the IP address range on this router?
It defaults to 192.168.1.1
My media server sits on 192.168.0.1
Take a look here
http://setuprouter.com/router/asus/rt-ac87u/ip-address.htm
How do you change the IP address range on this router?

It defaults to 192.168.1.1
My media server sits on 192.168.0.1
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Some people are never happy, if you posted an Intel 6900K for £500, people would be going mental over how cheap it was, post the AMD equivalent for even less and it's over priced. *shakes head*
Well that's right, AMD is a budget brand for peasants is it not?

I always thought of them as a poor mans cpu as intel as monopolised the extortionate prices
Uncommon.Sense
The_Hoff
Intel will be forced to innovate for the first time in years.
Let's see how much the market shakes up, I don't see the enterprise shifting to an unproven processor any time soon and AMD will need to offer the OEMs chips for pennies to have them take notice.
If they can attack the consumer laptop and tablet markets in combination with feeding gamers and small businesses they'll do well, they have Scorpio in the bag too so that will be profitable as Xbox has been for them.
Let's hope Intel sink enough to give something back.
The market share AMD had with x86-64 Opteron was immense compared to what it is now, and they stole most of that from Intel in a very small amount of time. I have no doubt that AMD will be aggressive with their pricing, but maybe not as much as you'd imagine vs. the desktop market.
I am sure we all know only time will tell, but AMD seem to have a great few years ahead of them. :)

The world has changed, the data centre is now an old model. They have a lot to do to get proper enterprise onboard.

I've heard no interest in AMD at work (large media org).
The_Hoff
Intel will be forced to innovate for the first time in years.
Let's see how much the market shakes up, I don't see the enterprise shifting to an unproven processor any time soon and AMD will need to offer the OEMs chips for pennies to have them take notice.
If they can attack the consumer laptop and tablet markets in combination with feeding gamers and small businesses they'll do well, they have Scorpio in the bag too so that will be profitable as Xbox has been for them.
Let's hope Intel sink enough to give something back.

The market share AMD had with x86-64 Opteron was immense compared to what it is now, and they stole most of that from Intel in a very small amount of time. I have no doubt that AMD will be aggressive with their pricing, but maybe not as much as you'd imagine vs. the desktop market.

I am sure we all know only time will tell, but AMD seem to have a great few years ahead of them. :)
Intel will be forced to innovate for the first time in years.

Let's see how much the market shakes up, I don't see the enterprise shifting to an unproven processor any time soon and AMD will need to offer the OEMs chips for pennies to have them take notice.

If they can attack the consumer laptop and tablet markets in combination with feeding gamers and small businesses they'll do well, they have Scorpio in the bag too so that will be profitable as Xbox has been for them.

Let's hope Intel sink enough to give something back.
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Sounds like fishmaster is a big amd fan
I am happy to see AMD competitive again but when you sit down for just a second and think it's hard to see too many people needing more than 4 cores even right now. Also the vast majority of the desktops and notebooks sold by OEMs (>70 percent of all PCs) pretty much require integrated graphics which Ryzen does not have.
Ryzen could be a big win for the niche enthusiast gaming market, and potentially very good in the server market later this year. That is much more important than gamers TBH for this architecture, very lucrative. It'll be a while though before Ryzen makes a big impact on the wider PC market without an iGPU.
You're absolutely right as I said above these three initial Ryzen CPUs are massive overkill for gaming, but AMD are putting forth their best at a price which is massively cheaper than Intel.
Anyone who thinks I'm an AMD fanboy is as clueless as a few of the posts on this thread.
What will have Intel worried the most is the potential for server/workstation damage. AMD Naples platform.
They own 99 percent of that market space because power/performance efficiency is THE critical purchase decision when you're running like 1000 cores 24/7. Intel completely and utterly dominate the server market which is where some really big bucks are spent.
If AMD deliver something that is nearly as fast but with better power characteristics (we'll see) at a similar price it'll eat into that market quickly. Gaming chips are pifflingly unimportant compared to that.

Indeed it will take time as companies such as Facebook have massively invested in Intel, they would likely transition to AMD rather than replace entirely which will take time, unless Intel come straight back at them, this is all good. I dislike the fanboy insinuations on any discussion like this, it's obvious competition is good and I back whoever gives the best value for money at the time.
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Decent price for an amazing value CPU. Performs similarly to Intel's i7 6900K which costs £1000 Launches 2nd March Pre Order Also at Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-yd1700bbaebox-Ryz…
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Really disappointing pricing on these chips. Was considering it as a possible upgrade path as my processor is getting on for four years old but not a chance with those prices and as these are DDR4 anyone upgrading from a older system like me will need a new board and RAM pushing the cost towards a grand for a high performance set up.
Thought AMD was supposed to be more mainstream focused than Nvidia/Intel, they won't get many mainstream buyers at those prices. Admittedly this one is a bit better value than the 4.0GHZ version but IMHO they need to have a chip in the £2XX range to really make an impact.
Only hope is if OCUK are price gouging and the real price is lower, but I don't hold out much hope of that....
These are enthusiast parts that are seriously good value. This would destroy a core i7 7700k in any multi threaded workload. There are cheaper parts on the horizon not far away.
Yeah I get that and price aside, it's nice to see AMD finally release a CPU with the potential to actually be competitive with Intel, lack of competition is never a good thing for the customer.
I know there will be cheaper parts coming but when I upgrade I like to see a substantial boost over what I have already, otherwise why bother at all? I'm pretty sure these CPU's will deliver that, but as I step down the ranks the benefit over what I have already, which is a respectable, if old, i7 3770 (not the k variant sadly), will lessen possibly to the extent it isn't noticeable. So I think for a worth while upgrade I need to be looking at this tier of CPU?
That said my existing system doesn't feel at all slow in any event so I'd probably be leaving it till the summer for prices to stabilise, possibly even the end of the year by which time Intel will probably have another generation out too....
I consider this an upgrade from my 4770k, so I guess we have very different expectations lol.
These OC to 4ghz according to Gibbo @ OCUK, wildly different animal.
Sorry maybe wasn't so clear. i think these CPUs would be a good upgrade from my i7 3770 and will keep an eye on their pricing for when I feel I need to upgrade (not at that point quite yet). I was replying to someone else who suggested waiting for the lower/cheaper tiers of the Ryzen architecture and I was saying as you drop further down the tiers the performance is watered down to the extent a budget Ryzen (not this) probably wouldn't offer anything over my 3770, or even may not be as good, depending on how cheap AMD go on the lower models....

I'd think the majority of the R5 range will be an upgrade over what you have, the 1600 range will trounce what we have for example.
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ST3123
Really disappointing pricing on these chips. Was considering it as a possible upgrade path as my processor is getting on for four years old but not a chance with those prices and as these are DDR4 anyone upgrading from a older system like me will need a new board and RAM pushing the cost towards a grand for a high performance set up.
Thought AMD was supposed to be more mainstream focused than Nvidia/Intel, they won't get many mainstream buyers at those prices. Admittedly this one is a bit better value than the 4.0GHZ version but IMHO they need to have a chip in the £2XX range to really make an impact.
Only hope is if OCUK are price gouging and the real price is lower, but I don't hold out much hope of that....
These are enthusiast parts that are seriously good value. This would destroy a core i7 7700k in any multi threaded workload. There are cheaper parts on the horizon not far away.
Yeah I get that and price aside, it's nice to see AMD finally release a CPU with the potential to actually be competitive with Intel, lack of competition is never a good thing for the customer.
I know there will be cheaper parts coming but when I upgrade I like to see a substantial boost over what I have already, otherwise why bother at all? I'm pretty sure these CPU's will deliver that, but as I step down the ranks the benefit over what I have already, which is a respectable, if old, i7 3770 (not the k variant sadly), will lessen possibly to the extent it isn't noticeable. So I think for a worth while upgrade I need to be looking at this tier of CPU?
That said my existing system doesn't feel at all slow in any event so I'd probably be leaving it till the summer for prices to stabilise, possibly even the end of the year by which time Intel will probably have another generation out too....
I consider this an upgrade from my 4770k, so I guess we have very different expectations lol.
These OC to 4ghz according to Gibbo @ OCUK, wildly different animal.

Sorry maybe wasn't so clear. i think these CPUs would be a good upgrade from my i7 3770 and will keep an eye on their pricing for when I feel I need to upgrade (not at that point quite yet). I was replying to someone else who suggested waiting for the lower/cheaper tiers of the Ryzen architecture and I was saying as you drop further down the tiers the performance is watered down to the extent a budget Ryzen (not this) probably wouldn't offer anything over my 3770, or even may not be as good, depending on how cheap AMD go on the lower models....
ST3123
Trefonix
ST3123
Really disappointing pricing on these chips. Was considering it as a possible upgrade path as my processor is getting on for four years old but not a chance with those prices and as these are DDR4 anyone upgrading from a older system like me will need a new board and RAM pushing the cost towards a grand for a high performance set up.
Thought AMD was supposed to be more mainstream focused than Nvidia/Intel, they won't get many mainstream buyers at those prices. Admittedly this one is a bit better value than the 4.0GHZ version but IMHO they need to have a chip in the £2XX range to really make an impact.
Only hope is if OCUK are price gouging and the real price is lower, but I don't hold out much hope of that....
These are enthusiast parts that are seriously good value. This would destroy a core i7 7700k in any multi threaded workload. There are cheaper parts on the horizon not far away.
Yeah I get that and price aside, it's nice to see AMD finally release a CPU with the potential to actually be competitive with Intel, lack of competition is never a good thing for the customer.
I know there will be cheaper parts coming but when I upgrade I like to see a substantial boost over what I have already, otherwise why bother at all? I'm pretty sure these CPU's will deliver that, but as I step down the ranks the benefit over what I have already, which is a respectable, if old, i7 3770 (not the k variant sadly), will lessen possibly to the extent it isn't noticeable. So I think for a worth while upgrade I need to be looking at this tier of CPU?
That said my existing system doesn't feel at all slow in any event so I'd probably be leaving it till the summer for prices to stabilise, possibly even the end of the year by which time Intel will probably have another generation out too....

I consider this an upgrade from my 4770k, so I guess we have very different expectations lol.

These OC to 4ghz according to Gibbo @ OCUK, wildly different animal.
belsibub
Not so good in gta v,not a suprise give single thread similar x99 cpu's from leaks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mJIP0-1xDo
that test is a complete mess
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Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1800X 4.00GHz (Socket AM4) Processor £488.99 @ OcUK - Supposedly i7-6900k performance

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Well I just watched all the reviews of the 1800X from Linus, Pauls Hardware, Gamers Nexus and I will not be buying AMD. I am 99% a gamer and dont do video production or huge zips daily, just maybe once or twice a year. Single thread wise, 1800X gets pood on by i7 7700K. I just now hope the i7 7700K will come down in price.
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But, the 6900k performing only a tad better despite having the same cores/threads would heavily suggest single core performance is near identical. I mean there is all these whats and if's to throw in but at face value there really should not be any issues with CPU bottlenecks.
I do understand its not an Apples to Apples (going off of the 1700 perf not 1800) but its looking to be fine.
You're being hoodwinked by AMD.
The 6900k has bad single thread performance compared to the i7 7700k. That's why they are comparing the 1800x to the 6900k.
It's last gen and it suites them to run that comparison as it makes them look ok in single thread performance.
They know once the NDA lifts, people will compare the 7700k to all the Ryzen chips, and it will destroy them in nearly every single gaming benchmark.
Their trick is get some hype now, convince people that you must have 8 cores or you are a pleb, and then pre-order before real benches come out.
Just to say, I'm not saying AMD are going to win anything in pure performance. But given intels slew of price cuts I think even they are scared... It's also worth noting prices are slightly inflated at the moment (i by no means think this is a "good" deal).

I'm running an 2500k and tbh have no intention of upgrading anytime soon. I still hit GPU walls before I hit CPU ones. So I really do find it hard to see how the i7 7700k will destroy these Ryzen chips when single core performance looks very similar. You're also not taking into account an i7 7700k is going to have a heavy overclock on it in any benchmarks, which we obviously don't have access too Ryzens overclocking numbers yet with it not being released. While obviously different processors you can't compare them identically ghz to ghz, the i7 7700k will have at least a 1ghz advantage in any available benchmarks currently which is surely going to swing in its favor without a doubt.
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From a gaming point of view (game only) buying an Intel 4 core part and clocking it as high as it will go 4.5Ghz+ will undoubtedly give the best results.
If that's all you do go grab your Intel part now. If you have a need for more cores for other workloads or game streaming then the slight hit on IPC over Intel will be well worth it.
Sure, streaming would add to CPU use, but I absolutely would not give that as a win to AMD or Intel without benchmarks.
I think the real benchmarks are going to be breathtakingly bad for AMD, there is a reason they are only showing Cinebench.
I'm not sure where you are getting your conclusion from? There is no reason to believe that at all. Unless you are basing it solely on games.
We all know it's IPC is not as high as Kabylake and it's not clocked as high so in games and single threaded benchmarks Intel's chips will be faster. That is not news, or unexpected. Where threads count I see no reason why AMD will not lead on a price comparative level.

So, you're saying in perfectly multi threaded applications, 8 cores is better than 4 cores?

Congrats?
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But, the 6900k performing only a tad better despite having the same cores/threads would heavily suggest single core performance is near identical. I mean there is all these whats and if's to throw in but at face value there really should not be any issues with CPU bottlenecks.
I do understand its not an Apples to Apples (going off of the 1700 perf not 1800) but its looking to be fine.
You're being hoodwinked by AMD.
The 6900k has bad single thread performance compared to the i7 7700k. That's why they are comparing the 1800x to the 6900k.
It's last gen and it suites them to run that comparison as it makes them look ok in single thread performance.
They know once the NDA lifts, people will compare the 7700k to all the Ryzen chips, and it will destroy them in nearly every single gaming benchmark.
Their trick is get some hype now, convince people that you must have 8 cores or you are a pleb, and then pre-order before real benches come out.
Big Intel fanboy alert.
You can cancel a pre-order and even send back items within a couple of days. This is AMD's brand new architecture, they're not using the bulldozer architecture.
I think Intel might be a little better in IPC performance but I don't think they'll destroy AMD with the 7700k single core performance.

And you say this with no benchmarks? Yet you say I'm a 'big intel fanboy'?
Nate1492
slayermatt
But, the 6900k performing only a tad better despite having the same cores/threads would heavily suggest single core performance is near identical. I mean there is all these whats and if's to throw in but at face value there really should not be any issues with CPU bottlenecks.
I do understand its not an Apples to Apples (going off of the 1700 perf not 1800) but its looking to be fine.
You're being hoodwinked by AMD.
The 6900k has bad single thread performance compared to the i7 7700k. That's why they are comparing the 1800x to the 6900k.
It's last gen and it suites them to run that comparison as it makes them look ok in single thread performance.
They know once the NDA lifts, people will compare the 7700k to all the Ryzen chips, and it will destroy them in nearly every single gaming benchmark.
Their trick is get some hype now, convince people that you must have 8 cores or you are a pleb, and then pre-order before real benches come out.
Big Intel fanboy alert.

You can cancel a pre-order and even send back items within a couple of days. This is AMD's brand new architecture, they're not using the bulldozer architecture.

I think Intel might be a little better in IPC performance but I don't think they'll destroy AMD with the 7700k single core performance.
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Mini Revolution S3 2G/16G Android TV Box Android 6.0 CPU Amlogic S905X Dual Band WIFI 2.4GHz/5GHz Bluetooth 4.0 Blu Ray TV BOX stick OTA Update smart TV box(Includes wireless Keyboard) £45.89 Sold by SEGURO and Fulfilled by Amazon (Lightning Deal)

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for the money it's a good box
Is it 'legal' to use this type of box please anyone?
Having an android box is clearly not illegal, no more than having an android phone is.
Having Kodi, is also no illegal.
Selling a box loaded with add-ons designed to allow the user to stream content is illegal
https://www.fact-uk.org.uk/multi-agency-crackdown-on-illegal-tv-set-top-boxes-results-in-five-arrests/

Fact are quoted as saying the following
" When it comes to catching those involved in piracy, it is not our strategy to prosecute the end user. Our interest lies in identifying, disrupting and if necessary prosecuting the individuals who defraud the creative industries by knowingly stealing content – and who then make that content available through illegitimate means for their own financial benefit or kudos.”

This quote applies mainly to those uploading torrents, but, if you apply this streaming, it would require that they are able to identify that people are streaming any particular content at any particular time, which they currently cannot (and in all likelihood are unable to find all but the stupidest people uploading content in most cases).
It is possible to arrest and presecute someone selling a box, for profit, which facilitates piracy, as it is easy to establish their guilt.
Establishing that someone has watched an episode of Game of Thrones on a computer they legally own, with open source software, linking directly to a server, and without sharing the file in any way to a third party, is virtually impossible without imposing some very invasive monitoring, and, even then, would that person actually be guilty of anything? Having not made the content available, and having not made a copy of that media?
If you did establish that the watching of the media was a crime, could you then actually establish who had watched it?

Edited By: breslau on Feb 21, 2017 20:48
I took a chance on a box today on amazon £19.99 2gb / 8gb I even posted it on here and it got took down within a minute it was getting hot!

If anybody's interested in the spec let me know and I'll send you the link :)

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powerbrick
Wouldn't the s912 chipset be better?
Multiple members of team Kodi and their buying guide says to avoid all S912 boxes. If you just want it for android then yeah maybe, but they are all apparently pretty buggy.

This deal is way overpriced anyway.
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Wouldn't the s912 chipset be better?

It's newer with more power (8 cores on the cpu), but has few apps because it's so new.

Depends what you want to run, the guy that makes LibreELEC for example says he won't be doing a 912 version as he has no time. He can barely keep up with devolvement of the 905 version.
Wouldn't the s912 chipset be better?
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250w Food Processor with 3 year warranty only £14.99 @ Lidl instore

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Just been into my local lidl and they had a stack of these for £14.99. Seems a good price for a budget food processor and with 3 year warranty. This was in the Knottingley Lidl.
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is this in every store?
250w seems very low for a food processor. even the cheapest one in argos is 600w, (£27). quite a difference.

super cheap though.
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Thanks to Fat.Tony for the information as its appears to be the cheapest so far for the 7500: Its time to bite and grab it while I can. Looks like stock in in on the 16th of February too.
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http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-cpu-benchmark-leak/
rip poor value intel builds featuring chips like the OP's.
I guess that depends on thread use.
The performance of the chip was tested in CPU-z with the in-built bench utility. This utility helps evaluate the single and multi-threaded performance of the processor running on the PC. The Ryzen 5 1600X had a score of 1888 in single-threaded performance bench and 12544 points in multi-threaded performance bench. In the task manager, we can see that the chip has boost clock enabled since it is clocking beyond it’s base frequency (e.g. 3.56 GHz).
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Vs Core i5-7600K Processor Performance Comparison
For comparison purposes, we used a Core i5-7600K running in our test rig and loaded the same CPU-z version (v1.78.1 x64). The quad core (non hyper-threaded) chip achieved a score of 2130 in single-threaded and 8206 in multi-threaded.
Though the i5 system was using DDR4 ram clocked at 3600 MHz, not sure what the 1600x supports?

if it's an accurate leak then builders who choose ryzen will have a better supported socket, cheaper mobos, cheaper overclocking support, more cores and single threaded performance similar to haswell/skylake.



Edited By: plath on Feb 17, 2017 11:03
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http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-cpu-benchmark-leak/
rip poor value intel builds featuring chips like the OP's.

I guess that depends on thread use.

The performance of the chip was tested in CPU-z with the in-built bench utility. This utility helps evaluate the single and multi-threaded performance of the processor running on the PC. The Ryzen 5 1600X had a score of 1888 in single-threaded performance bench and 12544 points in multi-threaded performance bench. In the task manager, we can see that the chip has boost clock enabled since it is clocking beyond it’s base frequency (e.g. 3.56 GHz).
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Vs Core i5-7600K Processor Performance Comparison

For comparison purposes, we used a Core i5-7600K running in our test rig and loaded the same CPU-z version (v1.78.1 x64). The quad core (non hyper-threaded) chip achieved a score of 2130 in single-threaded and 8206 in multi-threaded.

Though the i5 system was using DDR4 ram clocked at 3600 MHz, not sure what the 1600x supports?
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-cpu-benchmark-leak/

rip poor value intel builds featuring chips like the OP's.
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Hi, sorry to hijack this thread but I've been looking to purchase a new desktop pc with intel i5 . Everyone on here seems to know about so much so I was looking for some advice. I purchased a laptop last year after some very good recommendations given by HUKD members and got a bargain!
I don't want anything fancy for the desktop tower, just something for basic tasks, photo editing and that will last a good few years. I have been looking at Intel i5 4460, 8GB RAM, SSD. But the Intel processors are making the price very high and someone recommended AMD instead. What would be a good AMD equivalent processor?
I have looked at Ebuyer and a few other site for ready-built towers but they are expensive. I was hoping to get something for under £400. I have asked my local pc shop for a price to build one but that is also working out expensive so I was thinking of buying the most expensive parts myself and asking them to assemble it. Any thoughts?
If you can wait until the release of AMD's new Ryzen chips, which should be early next month, then there will be some benchmarks and actual pricing available for those and advice will be easier. In turn the AMD release should cause price drops on intel chips (as long as AMD are competitive).
How legit this is im not 100% sure but apprently Ryzen is out on the 28th?http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-1700/

I was allowing some fudge factor as the date could be shipping from the factory or ready to ship from store... plus a little to run benchmarks etc.
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Hi, sorry to hijack this thread but I've been looking to purchase a new desktop pc with intel i5 . Everyone on here seems to know about so much so I was looking for some advice. I purchased a laptop last year after some very good recommendations given by HUKD members and got a bargain!
I don't want anything fancy for the desktop tower, just something for basic tasks, photo editing and that will last a good few years. I have been looking at Intel i5 4460, 8GB RAM, SSD. But the Intel processors are making the price very high and someone recommended AMD instead. What would be a good AMD equivalent processor?
I have looked at Ebuyer and a few other site for ready-built towers but they are expensive. I was hoping to get something for under £400. I have asked my local pc shop for a price to build one but that is also working out expensive so I was thinking of buying the most expensive parts myself and asking them to assemble it. Any thoughts?
If you can wait until the release of AMD's new Ryzen chips, which should be early next month, then there will be some benchmarks and actual pricing available for those and advice will be easier. In turn the AMD release should cause price drops on intel chips (as long as AMD are competitive).

How legit this is im not 100% sure but apprently Ryzen is out on the 28th?

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-1700/
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I ordered one last night, although I ordered mine from amazon.de, it did cost a bit more and will take a little longer to arrive but I wasn't that keen on getting a gold phone.

https://www.amazon.de/UMIDIGI-Smartphone-Touch-Display-Fingerprint-Schnellladung/dp/B01N5K5R61/

Before buying this I spent quite a bit of time researching what options there are out there. Now is a bad time to buy a phone really as mobile congress is very soon so plenty of new devices will be announced soon and price drops for older ones should also follow. Sadly I can't wait, I need to get a new device by the end of the month to replace my dead iPhone 5, but this device does look like it offers quite a bit of bang for your buck.

Edited By: niceroundpound on Feb 13, 2017 14:41
Had one delivered on Saturday morning for my son. So far he seems happy with it. Feels very premium for the money. It's big. The finger print sensor is also a home button, even though the instructions say it's just a sensor and not a button. Which is a bit weird. No one in our home has owned an Android phone before, so he's spending a lot of time researching and customising. It seems to run very smooth and snappy. No signs of overheating. Battery life, from what I can tell so far seems okay. I'll post here if we encounter any issues.

Oh, the phone did loop when we stuck in a micro sd card previously used in another phone without formatting it first. We had to factory reset the phone and wipe the card before starting again. It's all happy now.
mazaky
Could anyone who already bought it share their thoughts on the phone? I'm seriously considering buying it.
Same here. Seems like a lot of phone for you money. Really tempted.
Could anyone who already bought it share their thoughts on the phone? I'm seriously considering buying it.
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KitchenAid Artisan Cook Processor Frosted Pearl £399.00 ecookshop.co.uk

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£100.00 less than previously posted http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/kitchenaid-artisan-cook-processor-frosted-pearl-499-00-ecookshop-co-uk-2591490 I bought it for £499.00 and it's still in the Read More
£100.00 less than previously posted http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/kitchenaid-artisan-cook-processor-frosted-pearl-499-00-ecookshop-co-uk-2591490 I bought it for £499.00 and it's still in the
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Loads of other Kitchenaid stuff too up to 50% discount (Unfortunately none in colours that match my mixer). See link of left of page "kitchenaid sale" and free Dartington Crystal Glasses with spend over £100. :( Heat added.
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Kenwood CCC200WH kCook Food Processor, White Was £260 Now £99.95 @ John Lewis

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One for the gadget freaks amongst us. Kenwood food processor, that also stirs and cooks your recipes, then keeps them warm for up to 30 minutes, then all parts that come into contact with food can Read More
One for the gadget freaks amongst us. Kenwood food processor, that also stirs and cooks your recipes, then keeps them warm for up to 30 minutes, then all parts that come into contact with food can
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I checked with John Lewis. The guarantee is 2 years with them and the additional payment is for the same 2 concurrent years but provides accidental cover. It's quite mis-leading.
That's precisely what I found when I bought something recently. These warranties are made to look like extensions of the original warranty, but they're not - they just run alongside them.

Origrav92 reports a different experience however - it's the date on the certificate which matters, of course. John Lewis, as so often nowadays, are being rather less than straightforward in their dealings.
I checked with John Lewis. The guarantee is 2 years with them and the additional payment is for the same 2 concurrent years but provides accidental cover. It's quite mis-leading.
I have a certificate with the year printed on it, I think it depends on the type of product as to the level of cover, but I agree the website is misleading and is not treating customers fairly as required by the FCA.
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Thanks, Patti but to be clear JL have a free 2-year guarantee that can be extended to 4 years for 15 quid.
That's the way John Lewis make it look, certainly. But I think all you get is additional cover for the same 2 year period - not another two years on top.
No I have a warranty till 2021
Just out of curiosity, does the warranty show an actual date 4 years after purchase, or are you relying (as I did until I realised I'd been caught out) on the website wording?
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origrav92
Thanks, Patti but to be clear JL have a free 2-year guarantee that can be extended to 4 years for 15 quid.
That's the way John Lewis make it look, certainly. But I think all you get is additional cover for the same 2 year period - not another two years on top.


No I have a warranty till 2021
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kenwood mini food processor fp126 - £17.50 instore @ Sainsbury's Hedge End

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saw this in Saintsbury's hedge end today ,half price label. 3 on shelf . 1.7 litre capacity. 400 watt motor. looked better than the mini processors they have as deals in aldi etc Read More
saw this in Saintsbury's hedge end today ,half price label. 3 on shelf . 1.7 litre capacity. 400 watt motor. looked better than the mini processors they have as deals in aldi etc
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