Except they have haven’t they. If it wasn’t for AMD you would still be sitting on a 2% IPC increase for evermore. The only reason you can buy this chip at this price is because AMD have forced Intel’s hand. You should give them credit for that.
This is great value for money for the performance you get, But even the poverty stricken motherboards for these are expensive. This is also pretty much a one hit wonder, Buy this and a cheap motherboard, And that's your lot, Your not going any further. Don't get me wrong, Chips like the 3600 should be a bit cheaper by now, But you could pick up 2600 and a very nice B450 board for 200 quid and still upgrade down the line to a 5600x or whatever is about come the time, Or a 3600 and B450 for about £230 and still have an easy upgrade path.
This is a great processor for the money. Of course AMD make the best new processors (I have migrated to AMD) but for this price this is still an excellent processor for gaming.
Get the best product for your budget. AMD won't value your loyalty any more than intel.
AMD have been laggards for years in both GPU/CPU markets, now they're finally able to compete and offer us fantastic products. They deserve to make a bit of money, hopes are that they will reinvest a good portion of it to bring us even better products.
Yes and that's explain why my used gtx 1070ti sold for more than when I've paid for it, brand new in 2018 (lol)
It's an ebay trend where sellers try to avoid realistic used OPEN box / OEM edition prices it seems.
My father, a motor engineer worked his whole life reconditioning engines. His skills were very sought after by those who knew engines and wanted best performance. As a young lad I loved going to his works and was fascinated by the machinery - most of it driven from a central motor with belts all over from room to room.
Where are you seeing that? It is supply and demand. No 3800x have gone for half price recently according to Ebay sold listings.
I think they just blow on it before sending it off.
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It was £999 for a 5600x, 3060, B550M Corsair Icue case 16gb DDR4 3000 etc they’ve now raised the price of that pc since I bought one to £1299
Better than this but it has ended. I missed out :-( find it here: https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/awd-icue-4000x-rgb-ryzen-5-5600x-6-core-46ghz-nvidia-rtx-3060-12gb-desktop-pc-for-gaming-99595-from-awd-it-3723173?utm_source=mappshare&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=3723173&utm_campaign=2021-05-17
There is no need for liquid cooling. The cooling just has to deal with the heat produced which you can judge from the TDP. Looking at the temperature and thinking this reflects the heat produced is wrong. In real world you wont fully load all cores anyway - only when running benchmarks but as an alternative to undervolting without the chance of error I just used ECO mode to reduce the max power for an ITX case - this doesnt affect single core perf at all.
Probably a cheap board of it was a pre-built...
This: cooling my 5800x with an Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO. Think a decent motherboard helps with Temps also. Paid £400 for mine ;( so I would hop, skip AND jump at this price!
Depends what you are doing? If its just gaming, I wouldn’t bother. I went from 3600x to 5800x and barely noticed a difference (real person observation, not benchmarking). For productivity, those extra 2 cores and 4 threads could be useful?
A decent air cooler will do just fine. I have the Noctua chromax d15 on my 5800x and it will only get to 82degC at full chat.
They can't claim environmental status because they actively prohibit 3rd parties repairing their devices, any device that is iCloud locked (apart from old models) can't be iCloud unlocked and are parts value only. Apple and Tesla are in no way enviromentally friendly companies.
Hot but OOS 😡
gone gone gone
I like it, apart from white bezels…
I agree looks like a knockoffs Mac from AliExpress
Vega system: plenty of UT info for you watch over just bang in UT: 3200G vs 3400G 3200G 8GB VS 16GB for games like Roblox, Minecraft even low fortnite. they are excellent value for light pc gaming. before the idiotic market the 3200G had a place for entry systems to build on to, get a gpu laters for that person who could not afford credit or cash upfront for path parts. the loss of gains on the cpu in terms of what u could if u bought a cpu/gpu combo are near say, fractions but obvious u go that way if u can upfront. i wasnt a fan of the 3400G back then as that £140 price vs a 3200G back then at £80...... means u could openly go down the route of a 1600AF +1030 65 that is one of the key reason AMD has done the 4650G its like the exact same as per a 1600AF+1030 gpu but using newer ZEN. get the right PSU in there for the future. get the correct ram this is key to vega's 2 x 8GBs of decent MHZ speed so over 3000 would be perfect example. if ur thinking of a 1650S / RX580 / then 3200g 3400g be perfect. if u thinking of a 2060 type GPU laters then go for the 4650G (palicomp prebuilt is best for that) keep an eye on some deals incoming too........ nice hint as well.
How well is do these run games? It’s for my 9 year old daughter to play things like roblox and sims etc, I understand it’s not going to run AAA games like my 3070 lol. Just thinking of a option to build and she can use till the gpu market gets back to normal.
motherboard is on a deal sep, A320 are 40S motherboards. so that means between £96-106 is great value considering this cpu alone is £180 from amazon, PCPP tracks last reported stock in at £106 infact. 2ndly) it has 3 years warranty from CCL. 3rdly) alot hate over fear the paste side, even though its a doodle. to me in this market. pretty dam good if i say so myself. 4thly) things like this mean i can bang afew ideas over on the later half for people to consider.
Does that make it good or bad? Prices are all over the place now.
It's a £33 motherboard, https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-A320M-PRO-Motherboard-DVI-D/dp/B07WC79VMJ/ref=asc_df_B07WC79VMJ/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=394382810309&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14901487716176338299&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045715&hvtargid=pla-842185390049&psc=1&th=1&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=83536743482&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=394382810309&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14901487716176338299&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045715&hvtargid=pla-842185390049 so you're paying £106 for the cpu.
They have: 1650 / 1660s / 2060 / 3060 only in small Q's ive not been targeting there GPU areas atm, as they cant get them on a reg basis so no deals as per my hotukdeals ways. vegas: 3200g (loads) 3400G (tons) 4650G (good amount, but price could go up as the buy rate has since they got) i asked last week on stock numbers, i usual do so i know where to target pitch haha, no point wasting on a dead goose. so pali to me atm will just be vega deals im affaid.
Sarden, how are they with stock. If I order a computer are they likely to actually be able to deliver it? They show many GPUs (which are the problem normally) so do they actually have them, or do they accept orders then keep you waiting for ages?
Cut all that crap, have limited options as per AWD which nail. Job done.
Complete agree minefield. Told them straight they need to kill there site. But the deals I've got must say are bloody epic vs elsewhere It's why I suggest doing the promo at the tops (gpus are now dead on prices) but the vega aspect are amazing value but then let down on the other side, so yup compete agree I sound like boris. Do this dont do that. Palicomp the new minesweeper.
Exactly - it’s hideous. If you stumbled on that site and hadn’t heard of them, you’d assume they were scammers. The prices don’t even match up, it says one thing and when you click on it they go up by £100-200. I’m not even convinced they have stock of most things - they list older cards like the RX 590 and GTX 1070 too...
There are no illusions that there is not a separate graphics card in this. I can only say from my own case use that for the basics, such as email, office, YouTube and the rest it’s perfect. You don’t need 16GB unless you are video editing/coding/any other more intensive process. The thing that really counts in a computer which people forget is how it feels to use. The apps open instantly, they work first time and I can do everything I need to do. That’s enough. If I tried to install any AAA title then it’s going to struggle. But again, my own experience is that the few games I have played have been excellent. Tomb Raider runs flawlessly at 60FPS and so does Batman: Arkham City. I would put my experience of it as being between a PS3/4. Which for something which doesn’t have a dedicated graphics card is alright. Source: I ran it myself.
Yes, you just explained how computers without dedicated graphics work.
Like I said - making things even worse. Ram is for CPU. If CPU have to share RAM with anything, it's bad. That means your graphic can take 4GB of RAM and CPU will be left with 4GB. Where 3/4GB it's OS itself.
100% agree. For me no matter which AIO you pick it just looks to me that something my dentist reception desk uses.
That's the double up deal everybody actually wanted for these Vega deals
hi time for me to update and get a new pc, mostly office work running multiple instances mt4/discord / some light picture/image/video editing . although already have xbox , interested some pc gaming call of duty/ battlefield may be oclus rift in future. was thinking just for deal 6 or deal 10. would this be more than enough for home/office, and then add a graphics card at later date if i wanted to get into more serious gaming? and is there much difference between intel vs amd ? thanks
Yeah seems a no brainer for a couple of quid. I watched that video you posted on doing it DIY and it looks simple enough!!
4 Mate. 4c/8t with higher vega. the Vega boost defo applicable in game like Fortnite. u can always boost this one too as standard its what us vega folks have done previous for our kids as well no prob. if it happens 4GB RX570 4GB RX580 wil be the first ones to fall out of the Minning pool. u are buying them without windows yeah?
Maybe so.. but I'd always suggest getting a bronze rated PSU regardless - wouldn't wanna fry the system out
decline the 1x16gb in all cases. / good way to get windows direct cheaper / warranty package. if thats ur thing. and if u dont, then click my name and see the link on my profile.
If you order and reject the special offers that you are emailed, they may offer this one (which I think is a decent deal):
yeah that be perfect for them type of cards, and the motherboard will be too.
Sadly that may be out of the budget, really nice set though .... was hoping around the £450 mark so that's why i've posted mine above for you to see...
£448 is what my total comes to. So it's the usually £405 deal but with the £33 psu for Kolink 600 (Mid/High), then add double up and the back door option.....is this good? I'm probably also going to get a second hand graphics card like a gtx 960/970.....What do you think??
seems like they dont have stock then, the people on the phone said that could be the case and that they havent updated the site yet
Collect in store just says "We can't process this order." EDIT: Even did a price match with overclockers which was successful and Currys gave me a code to enter. Still can't actually buy the damn CPU. EDIT2: And now I can't use the code because I've "already used" it. FFS. (mad)
has anyone been able to order one, i have tried 5 times and each time i get an email back after order complete saying: been trying to buy since the morning, and when i ring them they said they have no note what so ever on their system to as why its been cancelled? Cancelled items from your order, CUR21xxxxxx Hi Gareth - Thank you for shopping with us. These items are unavailable for home delivery at this time. We have cancelled your order (CUR21xxxxxxx) and no payment has been taken. We look forward to welcoming you back online soon. Cancelled item(s) you ordered: 1 x Ryzen 9 5950X Processor
Found an Asrock B450 Micro ATX with 2 slots for £60
Most expensive boards only have one m.2 slot. You could always get a pci-e m.2 slot add in card
Shame it only has 1 M.2 slot, good price though
I would say a little hard to say they have given up. However if you are supply constrained whilst expanding in Datacentres, OEMs, laptops (markets you hardly touched previously) whilst now having the top end PC market would you be best looking at where the higher margins are (seeming you can't stack high) whilst your main competitor focuses in the interim on the value sector. They did say it would be like this till second half of this year, although renoir only recently really showing readily of late whilst cezanne already being shipped to OEM's.
Nice find. CLEARLY much more powerful and more value. I'm tempted for myself
When something like this MSI is £100 more and vastly more powerful I would question the value here. A quad core and a lower midrange GPU for this money is not great. You're talking a CPU and GPU on the order of 40-50 percent faster than this for an extra 15 percent more money? I have seen better deals in the recent past at this price range. If I wasn't in a hurry I wouldn't be rushing to buy this.
I personally dont see how some 14/15" laptops can be called gaming laptops. I wont buy a laptop thats less than 17" now, its just pointless.
my bad, i was looking at clock speeds and some Fortnite benchmark in which the non ti is slightly faster for some reason. upon taking a closer look the 1650ti is 4% faster on average so negligible difference either way.
Where you seeing that? Any comparison Im seeing shows the Ti being faster, as expected