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Sapphire Radeon RX 480 Nitro+ 4GB - £198.99 @ Ebuyer

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Couldn't find it cheaper anywhere else.
Muffinss Avatar2d, 23h agoFound 2 days, 23 hours ago76 Comments
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derp1664
AMD sucks. Nvidia sucks.
Both faceless greedy corporation.
However, while that is true, one of them is greedier and lives by the adage 'business is war'.
Consumers may not care but a company which plays so aggressively is hardly the consumers friend as witnessed by how poorly their cards age (planned obsolescence? poor reading of how the industry is going?), or how they react when something goes wrong (the solder defects which affected millions of parts in the 8800GT era).
So you think AMD are only in business from the good of their hearts? If AMD had monstrous market share you think they wouldn't be complacent with their morals? Right now they can't afford to be, both figuratively and literally.
Kind of missing the point. It's not so black and white and AMD are definitely more consumer friendly than Nvidia even when there's no obvious benefit to them, e.g. open source drivers.
Conjecture. Nobody knows what a successful AMD would be like because AMD are not successful. :{
Not the point. AMD's "morals" only buys them goodwill and goodwill means basically jack amongst consumers. For every AMD fanboy who responded to the open source drivers there are 100 Nvidia fanboys who respond to their endless advertising. My point is it's irrelevant to their success whether AMD keeps doing nice stuff. Whether AMD will continue doing it if they become Nvidia level successful is a red herring.

Ah okay, so what you're saying is AMD are not very good at business. Thanks that's much clearer now I understand.



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derp1664
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derp1664
Gkains
derp1664
AMD sucks. Nvidia sucks.
Both faceless greedy corporation.
However, while that is true, one of them is greedier and lives by the adage 'business is war'.
Consumers may not care but a company which plays so aggressively is hardly the consumers friend as witnessed by how poorly their cards age (planned obsolescence? poor reading of how the industry is going?), or how they react when something goes wrong (the solder defects which affected millions of parts in the 8800GT era).
So you think AMD are only in business from the good of their hearts? If AMD had monstrous market share you think they wouldn't be complacent with their morals? Right now they can't afford to be, both figuratively and literally.
Kind of missing the point. It's not so black and white and AMD are definitely more consumer friendly than Nvidia even when there's no obvious benefit to them, e.g. open source drivers.
Conjecture. Nobody knows what a successful AMD would be like because AMD are not successful. :{

Not the point. AMD's "morals" only buys them goodwill and goodwill means basically jack amongst consumers. For every AMD fanboy who responded to the open source drivers there are 100 Nvidia fanboys who respond to their endless advertising. My point is it's irrelevant to their success whether AMD keeps doing nice stuff. Whether AMD will continue doing it if they become Nvidia level successful is a red herring.
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derp1664
Gkains
derp1664
AMD sucks. Nvidia sucks.
Both faceless greedy corporation.
However, while that is true, one of them is greedier and lives by the adage 'business is war'.
Consumers may not care but a company which plays so aggressively is hardly the consumers friend as witnessed by how poorly their cards age (planned obsolescence? poor reading of how the industry is going?), or how they react when something goes wrong (the solder defects which affected millions of parts in the 8800GT era).
So you think AMD are only in business from the good of their hearts? If AMD had monstrous market share you think they wouldn't be complacent with their morals? Right now they can't afford to be, both figuratively and literally.
Kind of missing the point. It's not so black and white and AMD are definitely more consumer friendly than Nvidia even when there's no obvious benefit to them, e.g. open source drivers.

Conjecture. Nobody knows what a successful AMD would be like because AMD are not successful. :{
Out of stock.
ollie87
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AMDead

Novidia shill confirmed.


​Stop cry.
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XFX AMD Radeon RX 480 4GB - Better than the stupid ass 1060 3GB £182.99 @ Ebuyer

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This performs way better than the 1060 3GB especially in future proof apis. In fact even a 470 does. The 1060 3GB has 10% less cores than the 6GB version and half the VRAM. Novideo false adverti…
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Sounds more like an anti-Nvidia rant than a hot deal. Just sayin'..........
It's been taken off the site:
'XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB GDDR5 HDMI 3x DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card' is discontinued; here are some similar products.
wozukSilencer
Nate1492
I'm not sure if you could be a bigger AMD fanboy if you tried.
The title? Wow, 'stupid ass 1060'? What is that, third grade?
i de-americanized it for you
The title? Wow, 'stupid ass 1060'? What is that, third year?

Great minds think alike.
Nate1492
I'm not sure if you could be a bigger AMD fanboy if you tried.
The title? Wow, 'stupid ass 1060'? What is that, third grade?

'What is that, third grade?' - what is this, America?
Nate1492
I'm not sure if you could be a bigger AMD fanboy if you tried.
The title? Wow, 'stupid ass 1060'? What is that, third grade?
i de-americanized it for you
The title? Wow, 'stupid ass 1060'? What is that, third year?
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Radeon Fury NITRO 4096MB HBM £289.99 delivered @ Overclockers

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Decent card for the price
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I Was the biggest nvidia fan have not long brought a R9 Fury got one from amazon warehouse box open return for £240 I have been lucky enough to test it against a GTX 980 and at 1440p the Fury won 90% of the time when both overclocked was a bit closer but the Fury was still faster. My fury runs at 1075 and memory at 525 could go a bit higher then this but happy with this.
Nate1492
Muffinss
Nate1492
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This has already been pointed out - the Fury drivers have drastically been improved since it was released. Your Fury benchmarks are release benchmarks. The performance difference is bigger now. We should compare what the 1060 is like in 2016 to what the Fury is like in 2016, not 2015.
Also not a single DX12 benchmark to be found.. ROTR doesn't count.
To quote myself, which you quoted:
For an arbitrary game at arbitrary FPS, a RX 480 might only be able to run it on High but have the textures on Ultra whereas the Fury may be able to run it on Ultra with the textures on High because it's simply a much better card at 1440p+. One of these options will look better than the other.
Replace RX 480 with 1060 and it's still mostly valid. At DX11 the difference is small but at DX12 it's a lot bigger.
Even at DX11, the £290 price point is not too bad. 10% better than a 1060 for about 15% of a price increase. Weigh that against the DX12 boost and you have a viable option...
It's absolutely not 10% better. You keep pretending like these reviews exist showing the Fury has gained performance.
Did you read the 'test setup' page? https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/7.html
Every card was tested. Every. Card. The Fury was tested against that same setup, with AMD: Crimson 16.4.2 Beta drivers!
So, no, I reject your argument that this was 'release day drivers' with simple 'test setup' page.
Repeating myself... The difference between Overclocking is nearly exactly 10% in favor of the 1060, so at 1440p, the 1060 draws even. At 1080p, the 1060 draws 10% ahead.
15% price increase? 228 versus 289. Again, simple math proves that to be incorrect.
That's 126.7% more! 26.7% increase in cost for *no* increase in performance.
​nate the fury is at least 10% better in dx11 and like 25% in dx12 and vulkan
Got a link to back that up? Because I can't find anything that suggests that. Sounds like you are pulling numbers out of thin air. I've provided links that contradict that in dx11. Specifically, 1080p, latest drivers, the 1060 is dead center tied before OC.

I'm still waiting for you to back up your initial claim of it being better than an R9 Fury...Still waiting on your facts.

Rise of the Tomb Raider isn't a direct X 12 title. Devs patched it to work alongside DX12..Devs patch notes atually say this!!

Ashes is purposesly built for DX12 and uses low level API..Basically how DX12 should be. AMD will obviously be better on this because AMD's drivers have been more focused on DX12 for atleast past 3 years.

You're digging yourself deeper into a hole lad.

Concede that a Fury is a more powerful card at higher resolutions, concede that Fury can overclock too, Concede that by overclocking a 1060/480 will use more power, eat your humble pie and move on.
epiphany1273
I signed up just to post this for people who might be looking for a genuine analysis including this graphics card taken from here:http://www.pcgamer.com/radeon-rx-480-review/
Nate,
Why such hate for AMD?
I have just trawled few a few of your comments and you are extremely Nvidia biased.
Do you work for Nvidia?http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/K7dStKj69am7zs63jC8V4g-650-80.png
A 1060 is essentially getting worse results than a 980.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal,review-33613-3.html
Nate works for novideo lmao
Nate1492
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I'm not going to compare the best R9 Fury with the worst 1060 (Zotac Mini. EVGA is good but must be preordered last I checked). In stock 1060s range around £260. Despite the TDP the Nitro Fury is one of the coolest and quietest cards out there.
Again you're selectively reading my posts, namely:
DX12
DX12
DX12
And DX12.
(and Vulkan)
This is where 10% to Fury comes from. When you account for everything. Not just the games that TPU cherry picked. That site has a known bias towards Nvidia.
Yes the 1060 at least matches the Fury in DX11. But there's more to DX11 now. I'm at work so I won't find you benchmarks to disprove your overall figure but if you care about the truth you'll look for them yourself.
But you are ignoring games where NVIDIA do better anyway.
You said 'Ahh, but ROTR doesn't count!'.
Should we look at AoTS only? You seem to be choosing what is considered "Cherry picking" and what is not.
Should we include Hitman? AOTS? ROTR?
There really isn't that many games to choose from, and excluding ROTR, a mass market game, and including AOTS, a game that is essentially a glorified AMD benchmark, seems odd too, doesn't it?

I don't want to count ROTR as DX12 because it's a DX11 core in a DX12 wrapper. I have no problem including it with other DX11 games though.

AOTS isn't biased towards AMD. You just don't like it because AMD does better in it. AOTS is simply pure DX12 not only in what API it uses but how it's written. There's no specific reason not to include it except that you don't like the results. There hasn't been an under the table handshake between the devs and AMD like Nvidia has done with loads of games.

Hitman is another outlier but even being biased to AMD, AMD still shows more gains in DX12 than Nvidia does. So there's still something legitimate to take away from it.

Contextualize.
I signed up just to post this for people who might be looking for a genuine analysis including this graphics card taken from here:http://www.pcgamer.com/radeon-rx-480-review/


Nate,
Why such hate for AMD?
I have just trawled few a few of your comments and you are extremely Nvidia biased.
Do you work for Nvidia?

http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/K7dStKj69am7zs63jC8V4g-650-80.png



Edited By: epiphany1273 on Aug 18, 2016 15:20
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SAPPHIRE RADEON RX 470 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-EXPRESS GRAPHICS CARD WITH BACKPLATE @ Overclockers £169.99

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Looks like an amazing card, seems to be only 2 - 4 frames behind the Rx 480 8gb at 1080p according to digital foundry. I may get this over the Rx 480.
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Looks like an amazing card, seems to be only 2 - 4 frames behind the Rx 480 8gb at 1080p according to digital foundry.
480 8GB is 21% faster at stock than this at 1080P on average:https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/24.htmlhttps://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

Digital Foundry does point out that the card it had for review was the MSI model which does have a nice factory OC on it.
Think I'll give PC gaming a miss for another generation. AMDs proper cards no where in sight, and judging by current performance im not holding my breath, nvidia 1060 overpriced by at least £50 and the 1070 £100, the new Intel chips is devils canyon with a fancy name, basically the same chip they designed 5 years ago. I'm desperately hoping the new AMD chips will be their new athlon, but I fear that them being distracted by supplying console manufacturers and playing catch-up with the GPU market means it will be too little too late, even if their fancy presentations show a huge improvement.
This deal isn't available, can this be expired?
Expired. Now 169.99.
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is this better than the Nvidia 970?
​The 970 is around 6% faster on average but it does beat the 970 in some games. Also this is newer architecture, consumes less power and is a lot cheaper. http://hwbench.com/vgas/radeon-rx-470-vs-geforce-gtx-970
im not in the market for a new gfx, but thought id try to flubit, they couldn't get an offer probably because its too new and that amazon were out of stock.
Flubit are useless of late IMHO. About the last five products I gave them they failed to get a better offer on. Used to be possible to get some real bargains on there but I think they have updated the software and now it seems anything that is already discounted on Amazon (even by a small amount) they just auto reject making it rather redundant....
out of curiosity, just got a price back for the 480 8gb for £206.74, saving £23.25
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XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB @ Ebuyer for £182.99 free delivery

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XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB GDDR5 HDMI 3x DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics
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Ebuyer just sent me an email saying the order will not be fulfilled as it was discontinued. Waste of time.
Just saw this shame it's now out of stock =/
These are just getting cheaper again because the release rush is over and the wave of aftermarket cooling is hitting.
robodan918
183GBP = 240USD? (i.e. $199 promised price tag + VAT)
Damn brexit really killed affordability

Its done that to everything, inc petrol.
It'd be well worth paying another £17 for the Sapphire Nitro version from Scan or OcUK over this.

Edited By: Aretak on Aug 04, 2016 13:27
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Radeon Fury NITRO 4096MB HBM PCI-Express Graphics Card with Backplate £299.99 @ OCL

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This is a pretty fast GPU, good for the price imo.
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Perspective, go check benchs for 290 reference (or 390 and minus 5%), versus Fury Nitro.

In most titles you're talking 10-30fps. That's the difference between playing a game within freesync range at high resolutions, or not, including 4k.

Right now I'm on 1080p but am looking for a 1440p freesync monitor which will effectively buy me another 2 years of gaming - for £150/£180 upgrade cost, that's decent value in my eyes.

DX12/Vulkan should give it a bump further and with Vega rumoured to be using HBM2 I'm hoping that further driver optimisation in favour of the crazy bus capacity will again shove it in the back.

Other reasons are the 290 hits 95 deg (which it's designed to do), blower is loud, uses more electricity... Nitro runs -96mv at a slight OC happily, room is cooler, GPU and VRM is nice and cool, happy days!

Nvidia (how are your shares?), I'd want need to spend more on the card for a top tier one, a premium on g-sync and still get worse DX12/Vulkan performance. Only real benefit is the greater power efficiency. Pointless.

1070 would be a better card, but more than I'm willing to spend given monitor refresh, lack of stock and ludicrous pricing.
The_Hoff
Ordered one today, here tomorrow.
If anybody is after a R9 290 drop me a PM. Great for mining/gaming.

The 290, compared to the Fury, is not that far off.

You're going to pull a 20-30% gain tops for a 299.99 card?

Looks like the 290 is going fro about 150 quid, if you're lucky.

Also, a 200 or 182 quid amd 480 that isn't on pre-order for next century? You should post it on hot uk deals. People would be interested.
Ordered one today, here tomorrow.

If anybody is after a R9 290 drop me a PM. Great for mining/gaming.
​Cool thanks for the update. At the moment I'm using a R9 280 and it's great at 2560x1080 but on a 3440x1440 monitor you can notice the upscale in games like rise of the tomb raider. In optimised games like gta v I'm getting an average of 50 fps at 3440x1440 with everything on high except grass. Similar situation in payday 2, wwe 2k16 (60 fps), fifa 15 battlefield 4 and a few others.

The GTX 1070 is a beast at 3440x1440 from the benchmarks I've seen. Getting 60 FPS in latest games with high settings and average 45 fps on ultra or maximum settings in games like witcher 3.

Currently you can get one for £379 as mentioned before but only thing concerning me is how the drivers will mature in the future like 4 years down the line. Nvidia track record with the 780ti is a great example.

Where as AMD GPUs from older generations are still great performers. Problem is AMD haven't given a answer to the GTX 1070 but a RX 490 listed was leaked. I'm hoping it's not a dual GPU as crossfire support is terrible.
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millar5002
I have not used a 1060 and never used a fury but I did have 970 strix overclocked (faster than a stock 1060) and currently use a Fury X (a little faster than a Fury) and can say for sure the 970 comes nowhere near the performance of the Fury x at high res (I game 3440x1440).
So I imagine the same will apply for 1060 v Fury.
If you want to play dx11 games at 1080p for the next couple of years then you may as well get a 1060. Otherwise you would be crazy not to go for the fury for only a little more. For a decent 1060 your looking around £280.
​What games do you play at 3440x1440 and what's your average fps? I've considered the R9 fury x many times for ultrawide 1440p but it's cheaper to get the palit game rock gtx 1070 which is currently £379.

I get a locked 60 fps on probably 95% of games I play at the minute but only because I lower graphics settings if need be to achieve a 60fps lock with no or minimal dips. Realistically if you want to play real graphic intensive games maxed out on ultra at 3440x1440 you need 2 Fury X's in crossfire but I find games still look great at this res with 1 Fury X even with slightly lowered settings.

Recent games I have been playing...

Battlefield 1 beta (high preset) 60fps

Doom (high preset) 60fps

GTA V (mixture of medium and ultra) 60 fps

Metro 2033 (mixture of medium and ultra) 60 fps

Project Cars (mixture of low and high) 55 - 60 fps but looks worse because of some dodgy frame times since the VR update.

ROTR (bad performance no matter what unless I turn off shadows, can only recommend 1080p Ultra with this card unfortunately)

Total War Warhammer (mixture of medium and high) 60fps during battles, 45 - 55 fps during campaign map.

Witcher 3 (mix of medium and ultra) 60fps

Compared to the 970 strix, that card could not even run 2560x1080 decently. Not used a 1070 yet and no idea of its performance at 1440p ultrawide but at that price its definitely worth a look if your OK with Nvidia's extreme planned obsolescence business model.
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Sapphire Radeon RX 480 Nitro+ 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card at Overclockers for £209.89 delivered

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The first of the custom RX480 graphics cards have been released - Sapphire have the 4GB model at £199 + delivery at Overclockers. There is an 8GB version for £239 and an OC 8GB version for £249: h…
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I find it funny that people went from a simple tech discussion on a deal to being embroiled in deep political discussion XD. Anyway I think overclockers prices won't be as good so I'm waiting till Novatech and eBuyer come out with some prices on this :)
Mine just got dispatched (4GB version)
Will wait for the price to drop below £200 with free game.
Here we go, review in german of the 4gb and 8gb model. They oc'd the 4gig model to 1415mhz, not too shabby

https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-oc-test/3/#diagramm-call-of-duty-black-ops-iii-1920-1080
Agharta
bigbloke
Let's agree to disagree because irrespective of the oil futures fluctuation, the massive drop in the value of the currency effects the price of EVERYTHING.
I didn't see that we had been disagreeing as I was just pointing out that oil and other traded commodities are more complex with regard pricing fluctuations. RAM is also a traded commodity which is why its pricing fluctuates in ways that most other PC components don't.
But I do now disagree when you say that EVERYTHING is now affected by the value of the pound dropping as it doesn't necessarily impact goods which aren't imported.

But goods are also exported.

Of course the value of the pound versus the dollar impacts all pricing.

The price of delivering goods goes up, the price to purchase imported goods goes up, if your item has ANY gas involved in manufacture (plastic) transport (oil) or pretty much anything... It will absolutely be impacted by the value of the pound.

It may be a smaller impact, but certainly an impact.
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Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB GDDR5 RAM PCI Expess 256 bit Graphics Card £207.84 Dispatched from and sold by LambdaTek ComponentShop. / Amazon

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Microsoft DirectX 12 Support (DirectX12 OPTIMIZED) Vulkan API support AMD Eyefinity Technology
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God or the devil? :p

http://www.techspot.com/review/1209-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060/page10.html
Food for thought.


Edited By: 7_of_nine on Jul 22, 2016 07:18
This is God telling you to buy a 1060.
Would'nt be surprised to see some of the ref cards drop a little as the aibs should hit next week.

Got my eye on the Nitro which ocuk have got for pre order at £200 and £250 respectively.

Unless you've bit already its worth waiting an extra week as they should be a vast improvement on these 1st rev ref cards.
They have one if you buy direct but £222 + postage so probably an error:
https://www.lambda-tek.com/Sapphire-21260-00-20G~sh/C-B3292129
There is one available at that price, but it keeps getting added then removed quickly and it won't let you add it to your basket.https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13730772_630585103783462_2522523284933869759_o.jpg

Edited By: GonzoFK on Jul 21, 2016 14:25
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If you're looking at a card sub £250, get the RX480, but if you want sub £300, don't bother looking at the new Nvidia 1060 which is £320 for one with a decent cooler on, just get the R9 Fury. 1060
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A lot of complaints on release that 4GB VRAM wouldn't be enough, especially for new games/4K wouldn't be enough and would cause hitching and other performance issues. whether it is via HBM or superior compression the 4GB fury do not seem to suffer as you would expect.
There is often a sense of hysteria around RAM sizes with graphics cards.
As long as the amount of RAM matches the performance level of the GPU I don't see an issue.
The Fury was never gonna run demanding games at 4K with very high settings so 4GB is fine.


​problem being is some newer games can consume over 4GB even at 1080p!
This is back instock now so needs unexpiring
alexrose1uk
A lot of complaints on release that 4GB VRAM wouldn't be enough, especially for new games/4K wouldn't be enough and would cause hitching and other performance issues. whether it is via HBM or superior compression the 4GB fury do not seem to suffer as you would expect.
There is often a sense of hysteria around RAM sizes with graphics cards.
As long as the amount of RAM matches the performance level of the GPU I don't see an issue.
The Fury was never gonna run demanding games at 4K with very high settings so 4GB is fine.
A lot of complaints on release that 4GB VRAM wouldn't be enough, especially for new games/4K wouldn't be enough and would cause hitching and other performance issues. whether it is via HBM or superior compression the 4GB fury do not seem to suffer as you would expect.
powerbrick
Agharta
alexrose1uk
By all accounts the Nitro boards have a redesigned PCB rather than reference and thus overclock more than usual 10-15% not being unrealistic. That in itself makes it worth considering. I myself am waiting to check the custom 480s as the 1060s performance isn't as hot in DX12 as AMD at a similar cost, and if throttling is resolved with an extra 10-20% performance on top those custom 480s could be substantially nippier than reference.
Definitely makes sense to wait for the custom RX 480 boards as the reference design is pants.
Here's a review of the Sapphire/R9_Fury_Tri-X_OC which doesn't have much O/C headroom but maybe this model is better!https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_Fury_Tri-X_OC/33.html
but there are no AIB boards....oh stock where art thou?
Is there an official date for release? They are missing the boat with the 1060 now available for the same price as a reference 480 8GB.

AIB = add-in-board so they are all AIBs just that the custom AIBs are MIA.
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Radeon R9 390 G1 Gaming 8192MB GDDR5, 209£ delivered @ OCL £199.00

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Overclockers have a crazy deal at the moment. You can pick this one up for less than amd r9 480, and it is way faster. See specs: Core: 1025MHz Memory: 8192MB 6000MHz GDDR5 Stream Processors: 256…
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Lucifer_UK

you sound like a fanboy with a flacid argument.... Do you work for Nvidia or something. Ha!

That's your reply? Instead of any thought, you just blindly throw out "oh you must be a fanboy shill, haha!!111!!one".

Guess you aren't worth the effort of an adult conversation.
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Genuinely better?
​I have a Sapphire R390 Nitro OC edition, and have just bought another to crossfire for about this price. It's a really nice card.
If I was buying new though, I'd buy an RX480. It runs cooler, uses much less power, and as a newer architecture there are probably other advantages I haven't fully grasped. The performance difference really isn't enough to warrant getting the older card imo. Plus we should see reviews for custom RX480's soon and I wouldn't be surprised if they close the gap.
480 was a rushed card because Vega is not ready.
Vega will be the ultimate card.
Recent history... Is not on your side.
AMD have not released a 'killer' card since the 290x.
oh i disagree.... you could argue that at the point of sale their last 'killer' card was the 7990 as at the point of release it was the best pound/performance card of its kind. yes it was far superceeded by the nvidia ti but that nvidia was not there at release of the the 7990
The 480 already hits the performance mark at its price point but is and has always been a filler card for the vega which is next due. And due to the architecture change in the vega, that is set to be the next killer card with HBM 2 which will surely be beaten by the Nvidia 1080ti and next titanesque.... But thus we delve into the murky world of GPU's and their marketing strategies even further....
I flit between them both.... but Nvidia dont give a hoot about their customers - there is a reason why AMD resides in both the xbox 1 and PS4... and that is bang 4 buck, not gloryhole sales.
I'm sorry, but what? The 7990 was not a 'killer card' in any sense of the word.
The reason AMD 'resides' in the xbox 1 and PS4 is because NVIDIA didn't want that low value contract. The margins were very slim. http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/150892-nvidia-gave-amd-ps4-because-console-margins-are-terrible
I just don't see how you can make the assumption the Vega will be a showstopper. AMD haven't released a card that has lived up to it's hype in a VERY long time.
At least since the 290x.
The 3xx series was hugely disappointing, the 480 was a flop out the game, and the Fury/Fury X have been an afterthought.
Also, the 7990 was released April 2013, the 290x was released October 2013.
Even if we agreed the 7990 was even a 'good' card, it doesn't change what I said. (It's really not).


you sound like a fanboy with a flacid argument.... Do you work for Nvidia or something. Ha!
Lucifer_UK
Nate1492
Lucifer_UK
OnlyJoeKing
Graham1979
Genuinely better?
​I have a Sapphire R390 Nitro OC edition, and have just bought another to crossfire for about this price. It's a really nice card.
If I was buying new though, I'd buy an RX480. It runs cooler, uses much less power, and as a newer architecture there are probably other advantages I haven't fully grasped. The performance difference really isn't enough to warrant getting the older card imo. Plus we should see reviews for custom RX480's soon and I wouldn't be surprised if they close the gap.
480 was a rushed card because Vega is not ready.
Vega will be the ultimate card.
Recent history... Is not on your side.
AMD have not released a 'killer' card since the 290x.
oh i disagree.... you could argue that at the point of sale their last 'killer' card was the 7990 as at the point of release it was the best pound/performance card of its kind. yes it was far superceeded by the nvidia ti but that nvidia was not there at release of the the 7990
The 480 already hits the performance mark at its price point but is and has always been a filler card for the vega which is next due. And due to the architecture change in the vega, that is set to be the next killer card with HBM 2 which will surely be beaten by the Nvidia 1080ti and next titanesque.... But thus we delve into the murky world of GPU's and their marketing strategies even further....
I flit between them both.... but Nvidia dont give a hoot about their customers - there is a reason why AMD resides in both the xbox 1 and PS4... and that is bang 4 buck, not gloryhole sales.

I'm sorry, but what? The 7990 was not a 'killer card' in any sense of the word.

The reason AMD 'resides' in the xbox 1 and PS4 is because NVIDIA didn't want that low value contract. The margins were very slim.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/150892-nvidia-gave-amd-ps4-because-console-margins-are-terrible

I just don't see how you can make the assumption the Vega will be a showstopper. AMD haven't released a card that has lived up to it's hype in a VERY long time.

At least since the 290x.

The 3xx series was hugely disappointing, the 480 was a flop out the game, and the Fury/Fury X have been an afterthought.

Also, the 7990 was released April 2013, the 290x was released October 2013.

Even if we agreed the 7990 was even a 'good' card, it doesn't change what I said. (It's really not).
Lucifer_UK
Nate1492
Lucifer_UK
OnlyJoeKing
Graham1979
Genuinely better?
​I have a Sapphire R390 Nitro OC edition, and have just bought another to crossfire for about this price. It's a really nice card.
If I was buying new though, I'd buy an RX480. It runs cooler, uses much less power, and as a newer architecture there are probably other advantages I haven't fully grasped. The performance difference really isn't enough to warrant getting the older card imo. Plus we should see reviews for custom RX480's soon and I wouldn't be surprised if they close the gap.
480 was a rushed card because Vega is not ready.
Vega will be the ultimate card.
Recent history... Is not on your side.
AMD have not released a 'killer' card since the 290x.
oh i disagree.... you could argue that at the point of sale their last 'killer' card was the 7990 as at the point of release it was the best pound/performance card of its kind. yes it was far superceeded by the nvidia ti but that nvidia was not there at release of the the 7990
The 480 already hits the performance mark at its price point but is and has always been a filler card for the vega which is next due. And due to the architecture change in the vega, that is set to be the next killer card with HBM 2 which will surely be beaten by the Nvidia 1080ti and next titanesque.... But thus we delve into the murky world of GPU's and their marketing strategies even further....
I flit between them both.... but Nvidia dont give a hoot about their customers - there is a reason why AMD resides in both the xbox 1 and PS4... and that is bang 4 buck, not gloryhole sales.

Did you just say the 7990 was a killer card? :D
Nate1492
Lucifer_UK
OnlyJoeKing
Graham1979
Genuinely better?
​I have a Sapphire R390 Nitro OC edition, and have just bought another to crossfire for about this price. It's a really nice card.
If I was buying new though, I'd buy an RX480. It runs cooler, uses much less power, and as a newer architecture there are probably other advantages I haven't fully grasped. The performance difference really isn't enough to warrant getting the older card imo. Plus we should see reviews for custom RX480's soon and I wouldn't be surprised if they close the gap.
480 was a rushed card because Vega is not ready.
Vega will be the ultimate card.
Recent history... Is not on your side.
AMD have not released a 'killer' card since the 290x.


oh i disagree.... you could argue that at the point of sale their last 'killer' card was the 7990 as at the point of release it was the best pound/performance card of its kind. yes it was far superceeded by the nvidia ti but that nvidia was not there at release of the the 7990

The 480 already hits the performance mark at its price point but is and has always been a filler card for the vega which is next due. And due to the architecture change in the vega, that is set to be the next killer card with HBM 2 which will surely be beaten by the Nvidia 1080ti and next titanesque.... But thus we delve into the murky world of GPU's and their marketing strategies even further....

I flit between them both.... but Nvidia dont give a hoot about their customers - there is a reason why AMD resides in both the xbox 1 and PS4... and that is bang 4 buck, not gloryhole sales.
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I'm sure all these cards will be just fine, i have a 770 which according to the charts on this thread is crap but seems to run fine to me. Maybe because i play the games rather than hunching over frame rate charts
Nate1492
vmistery

The chance of a 1060 even the 3gb variety if it materialises being that price for the foreseeable future is around 0. Personally I suspect the 1060 6gb will be around £260 for the non founders edition cards at least for a few months judging by the inflated prices of the 1070/80. My guess is the 480 to fall to about £170 for the 8gb version once the 1060 is around in better numbers. But as we don't know anything about it other than Nvidia marketing like your comment mines all guesswork! As for he 970 being better than the 480 I haven't seen real evidence of that, it seems to vary depending on what game and what resolution. I'd be looking at how they compare in the games I play rather than basing it off a few that reviewers play.

The 970 isn't better than the 480. It is on par, around the same performance.

I don't get why you think the 1060 6gb will be £260 while the 480 will be £170. They are priced as such in the states: $249 and $239 MSRP.

Also, why the doubt on the 1060 3gb? There is other cards at that price point that NVIDIA want to compete with, so why wouldn't they release it?


Have a look at the recommended pricing for the 1070 and what it's currently available for, that's why I think it will be more. I also agree, the 970 and 480 are approximately the same but perform differently in different titles. Nvidia have a better reputation than AMD so I suspect the 480 will have to lower in price soon. I doubt the 3gb card will be released for ages as there are reports of tons of 970s hanging around.
vmistery

The chance of a 1060 even the 3gb variety if it materialises being that price for the foreseeable future is around 0. Personally I suspect the 1060 6gb will be around £260 for the non founders edition cards at least for a few months judging by the inflated prices of the 1070/80. My guess is the 480 to fall to about £170 for the 8gb version once the 1060 is around in better numbers. But as we don't know anything about it other than Nvidia marketing like your comment mines all guesswork! As for he 970 being better than the 480 I haven't seen real evidence of that, it seems to vary depending on what game and what resolution. I'd be looking at how they compare in the games I play rather than basing it off a few that reviewers play.

The 970 isn't better than the 480. It is on par, around the same performance.

I don't get why you think the 1060 6gb will be £260 while the 480 will be £170. They are priced as such in the states: $249 and $239 MSRP.

Also, why the doubt on the 1060 3gb? There is other cards at that price point that NVIDIA want to compete with, so why wouldn't they release it?
Nate1492
Chaz_UK

There's nothing shady about progress is there? And yes, I will be first to admit AMD's performance on DX11 and OpenGL vs Nvidia's offerings was lacking in some titels, not so much in others, but.....http://i.imgur.com/mRihbwa.png
http://i.imgur.com/UFzw0bA.pngI'm not going to completely steal the guys hard work so here is the full video, please to give it a watch to support the creator:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOaHpZjQ73M
We're in a time where all major consoles, and their upcoming revisions (The XBOX One, PS4 and the Nitnendo NX as well as the PC & even Android) will no doubt be taking advantage of the newer rendering technologies bought either with DX12 or Vulkan, and to see older cards performing within a the realms of the current high end stuff in newer titles is something that does excite me, being someone here on a deals site that likes to get as much for his £ as possible, this has me hoping that all consumers will be given the option of buying cheaper and better performing hardware across the board, no matter who the creator is (AMD, Nvidia, Matrox, S3, 3Dfx, PowerVR.... :p ).
I'm here to save money on my purchases, not argue over older DX11 and OpenGL titles so I'm bowing out now. No more shade from me, I promise.

All those charts show is that AMD had terrible open GL performance. I don't see your point at all. The 970, 980, 390, and 480 have all danced around each other in benchmarks. This is nothing new here.

In Open GL, the 480 was losing by over 12 FPS to the 970, in any other benchmark I've seen, the 970 and the 480 were neck and neck.

I don't see how this is a 'good thing' for AMD, they are just showing how terrible they were at Open GL. Repeatedly.

There are plenty of Open GL games out there still.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OpenGL_programs

If you are happy with that set of games being absolute pants on your 'good value card' and happy that you can *never* switch to Linux with your 'good value card' then more power to you.

But as a consumer, when I see this card priced at 221.99 and I see 970 below that price, and the 980 approaching it... With the 1060 6GB to be the same price and the 1060 3GB to be as low as 140 quid, as a consumer, it's an easy choice.


The chance of a 1060 even the 3gb variety if it materialises being that price for the foreseeable future is around 0. Personally I suspect the 1060 6gb will be around £260 for the non founders edition cards at least for a few months judging by the inflated prices of the 1070/80. My guess is the 480 to fall to about £170 for the 8gb version once the 1060 is around in better numbers. But as we don't know anything about it other than Nvidia marketing like your comment mines all guesswork! As for he 970 being better than the 480 I haven't seen real evidence of that, it seems to vary depending on what game and what resolution. I'd be looking at how they compare in the games I play rather than basing it off a few that reviewers play.
Chaz_UK

There's nothing shady about progress is there? And yes, I will be first to admit AMD's performance on DX11 and OpenGL vs Nvidia's offerings was lacking in some titels, not so much in others, but.....http://i.imgur.com/mRihbwa.png
http://i.imgur.com/UFzw0bA.pngI'm not going to completely steal the guys hard work so here is the full video, please to give it a watch to support the creator:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOaHpZjQ73M
We're in a time where all major consoles, and their upcoming revisions (The XBOX One, PS4 and the Nitnendo NX as well as the PC & even Android) will no doubt be taking advantage of the newer rendering technologies bought either with DX12 or Vulkan, and to see older cards performing within a the realms of the current high end stuff in newer titles is something that does excite me, being someone here on a deals site that likes to get as much for his £ as possible, this has me hoping that all consumers will be given the option of buying cheaper and better performing hardware across the board, no matter who the creator is (AMD, Nvidia, Matrox, S3, 3Dfx, PowerVR.... :p ).
I'm here to save money on my purchases, not argue over older DX11 and OpenGL titles so I'm bowing out now. No more shade from me, I promise.

All those charts show is that AMD had terrible open GL performance. I don't see your point at all. The 970, 980, 390, and 480 have all danced around each other in benchmarks. This is nothing new here.

In Open GL, the 480 was losing by over 12 FPS to the 970, in any other benchmark I've seen, the 970 and the 480 were neck and neck.

I don't see how this is a 'good thing' for AMD, they are just showing how terrible they were at Open GL. Repeatedly.

There are plenty of Open GL games out there still.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OpenGL_programs

If you are happy with that set of games being absolute pants on your 'good value card' and happy that you can *never* switch to Linux with your 'good value card' then more power to you.

But as a consumer, when I see this card priced at 221.99 and I see 970 below that price, and the 980 approaching it... With the 1060 6GB to be the same price and the 1060 3GB to be as low as 140 quid, as a consumer, it's an easy choice.
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MBeeching
pukenukem
got a GTX 1060 instead. I'm expecting a mild improvement over my 650 1GB.
Surely you jest? oO
Welcome to GPU power!

I do indeed jest. :) I'm expecting great things!! I've even bought a nice shiny new monitor, as you can't really have a nice shiny new card without that..can you? The wife will agree I'm sure. :)
Martyn334
Wouldn't recommend AMD to anyone..

I wouldn't recommend you to anyone. Anyone want a Martyn334? No one? Come on? Top troll on AMD deals, OK second rate troll? Still no one? Ah well shame, free with a packet of Walkers? Really? You're a tough crowd.
Hredknapp
Lucifer_UK
mranderson1971
Martyn334
Wouldn't recommend AMD to anyone..
Care to elaborate? Is it the fact that they are cheaper?
I am running an Fx 8320 and an RX480 and am very happy.
1920 x1080 60+fps ultra settings.
Let's stop the fanboy nonsense.
1080p is soooooo last century.
Upgrade your resolution to minimum 2.4k pelase
2.4k is so last year darling. Join the 4k party.

screw 4k lets go 16k and be done with.

Live in the future.
MBeeching
Arguably the monopoly has already passed with 56% of Steam users using Nvidia cards.)
They never had a monopoly but 56.7% is very good when AMD are on 25.1% with Intel integrated on 17.8%.

MBeeching
Credit to AMD fighting to the death though considering their existence hinges on the revitalised console industry. The PS4/XBox were certainly not predicted to sell this well.
Consoles are a mere blood transfusion, Zen needs to be successful and less so Vega.
But AMD are diversifying with licensing deals in China etc so hopefully 2016/2107 is when they turn the corner.

MBeeching
Nvidia do have too many eggs in one basket though, their Tegra mobile platform is barely making an impact. If things turn rough and profits drop Intel will probably swoop in for the steal and annihilate everyone. (Which will be awful!)
Tegra is a mere sideshow for nVidia but they do seem to be gaining traction with it in automobiles so maybe it will finally pay off!
A bigger issue for Nvidia is Cray stating this week that they have more orders for systems with Intel Xeon Phi than Nvidia Tesla P100. But Nvidia’s finances are looking solid so I don’t see any real threat right now.
pukenukem
got a GTX 1060 instead. I'm expecting a mild improvement over my 650 1GB.

Surely you jest? oO
Welcome to GPU power!
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you can flash the xfx 'core' 4gb directly with the xfx 'black' bios - no special cooling required

stable, higher than stock core and 8gb@ 2K for 174 quid
markpomeroy
The_Hoff
markpomeroy
Mine arrived today and it has 8GB on it!https://s32.postimg.org/5uktsfr79/IMG_2069.jpg
Tried flashing it yet?
Nope not yet. I'm going to wait until I really need the extra RAM.

It should also increase the speed on the memory.
The_Hoff
markpomeroy
Mine arrived today and it has 8GB on it!https://s32.postimg.org/5uktsfr79/IMG_2069.jpg
Tried flashing it yet?

Nope not yet. I'm going to wait until I really need the extra RAM.
markpomeroy
Mine arrived today and it has 8GB on it!https://s32.postimg.org/5uktsfr79/IMG_2069.jpg
Tried flashing it yet?
Mine arrived today and it has 8GB on it!
https://s32.postimg.org/5uktsfr79/IMG_2069.jpg
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miaomiaobaubau
FireBIade200
ST3123
FireBIade200
From what I've seen in reviews, 1 of these cards is approx 1070 spec but the idea is you buy 2 and corssfire (because they are cheap) and get near 1080 performance for about £200 less.
I think you mean around one card is around 970 spec, the 1070 is significantly faster. Not knocking it mind, still a good card and one I might well get when the price comes down to £150ish...
My bad it's not 1070 spec, cross fired they trump a 1070 and get very close to 1080 speeds. I think it's cheaper to get a single 1070 but you would be slightly slower. Decisions decisions..
I think you seen too much you tube trolling,lol. Just go for a reliable good that never lets you down,Nvidia

The irony is strong with this one.
FireBIade200
ST3123
FireBIade200
From what I've seen in reviews, 1 of these cards is approx 1070 spec but the idea is you buy 2 and corssfire (because they are cheap) and get near 1080 performance for about £200 less.
I think you mean around one card is around 970 spec, the 1070 is significantly faster. Not knocking it mind, still a good card and one I might well get when the price comes down to £150ish...
My bad it's not 1070 spec, cross fired they trump a 1070 and get very close to 1080 speeds. I think it's cheaper to get a single 1070 but you would be slightly slower. Decisions decisions..
I think you seen too much you tube trolling,lol. Just go for a reliable good that never lets you down,Nvidia
ST3123
FireBIade200
From what I've seen in reviews, 1 of these cards is approx 1070 spec but the idea is you buy 2 and corssfire (because they are cheap) and get near 1080 performance for about £200 less.
I think you mean around one card is around 970 spec, the 1070 is significantly faster. Not knocking it mind, still a good card and one I might well get when the price comes down to £150ish...

My bad it's not 1070 spec, cross fired they trump a 1070 and get very close to 1080 speeds. I think it's cheaper to get a single 1070 but you would be slightly slower. Decisions decisions..
FireBIade200
From what I've seen in reviews, 1 of these cards is approx 1070 spec but the idea is you buy 2 and corssfire (because they are cheap) and get near 1080 performance for about £200 less.

I think you mean around one card is around 970 spec, the 1070 is significantly faster. Not knocking it mind, still a good card and one I might well get when the price comes down to £150ish...
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zoso1313
I heard display is awful & eager out on these laptops, any owners care to comment? Buying for wife, ages a teacher. so a bit of work on MS word etc, browsing and Netflix!
I have one of these, I thought the screen was quite good but I was coming from a lenovo x201. The screen is nice if you only view it head on but because it isn't IPS it does wash out quickly but not the worst I have used. Not the best buy for netflix for multiple viewers at once. I also bought mine from Svp with no problems.


​thanks for getting back, appreciate it!
zoso1313
I heard display is awful & eager out on these laptops, any owners care to comment? Buying for wife, ages a teacher. so a bit of work on MS word etc, browsing and Netflix!
I have one of these, I thought the screen was quite good but I was coming from a lenovo x201. The screen is nice if you only view it head on but because it isn't IPS it does wash out quickly but not the worst I have used. Not the best buy for netflix for multiple viewers at once. I also bought mine from Svp with no problems.

Edited By: titan131 on Jun 23, 2016 15:18
uk trust pilot rating 3.3 out of 10 for Svp!
washed out I meant!
I heard display is awful & eager out on these laptops, any owners care to comment? Buying for wife, ages a teacher. so a bit of work on MS word etc, browsing and Netflix!
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unless ive misread the HP website they state it has only got 10 usb ports
Chidmas
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Chidmas
It's amazing what you can do with some YouTube and a brain


You could not build this computer to its specs including an operating system for much cheaper than £799. You'd still be spending £700+ and end up with less USB sockets and a worse case


​if you look below someone has built a very similar system for less. Now stop crying like a girl it's making me uncomfortable


Why do you keep coming back to my post? You are literally going out of your way to check all the comments lol. You know full well that person's build does not include all the components of the pc in my post and uses a pretty awful case. Everyone knows including myself that my post is not the most amazing pc deal ever, but for someone looking for a pc of those specs that can't be bothered to build it themselves it's a decent price. I'm not going to argue with you any more...your previous defensive and aggressive reply says everything about you as a person.
koimaster
Chidmas
It's amazing what you can do with some YouTube and a brain


You could not build this computer to its specs including an operating system for much cheaper than £799. You'd still be spending £700+ and end up with less USB sockets and a worse case


​if you look below someone has built a very similar system for less. Now stop crying like a girl it's making me uncomfortable
koimaster
Chidmas
It's amazing what you can do with some YouTube and a brain


You could not build this computer to its specs including an operating system for much cheaper than £799. You'd still be spending £700+ and end up with less USB sockets and a worse case


​Hahahahaha USB ports that's your argument. Silly seasons started in here. It isn't an amazing deal and the look of the case is subjective.
ocelot20
Something I put together in a few minutes. Does not have 12 USB ports. But I rather save over £150 and have 6 USB ports.https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/ocelot20/saved/#view=n43V3C
For the OS simply buy that Windows 10 key for £10 that is on the front page.

Add £35 and get the Asus Z170 pro gaming motherboard which has up to16 USB ports.
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Been looking at falling prices and think this is quite good price for the G1 card. Obviously theres the new rx480 coming but who cant wait or dont want to its great card for the money.
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FYI ALL...

The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 is expected to be announced the 7th July (Next Thursday) event with retail availability a week later on 13th July....

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1060-special-launch-event-july/
RX480 UK Prices found >

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/94049-xfx-rx-480-radeon-graphics-cards-listed-amazon-uk/

I checked and they're unavailable, but they're close to what we thought the price would be, unlike the Nvidia cards.
DON'T buy ANYTHING until the 29th June. The cheaper and faster RX480 is about to be released. They're saying between £140-£199 for close to or faster than GTX 980 performance.
Bang for buck is pointing to the rx480 shame thier is no 490
rev6
miaomiaobaubau
pci-express 4 coming by the end of 2017. So, no worth buying anything at all. Use what you got and prices will come down a lot if they do not sell
Does PCI-E 3.0 x16 bottleneck any GPU?
correct, this is why I am still on the pci1 4x, difference with pci3 16x is minimal https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X_PCI-Express_Scaling/8.html
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The price is good but it's a refurbished machine with sub par parts. Sometimes you need to spend a little more to get a good deal.
imransaeed
I have this. No issues what so ever.
A perfect laptop for basic computing needs, photo editing (1080p screen), Internet usage, word processing etc.
I'm sure it's not a high spec laptop for gaming but I really don't care as I don't do that, so don't need it.
How is the fan noise? Some reviews on the internet point that fan keeps running sometime even when idle?
Also, if you can shed some light on the very different hinge, is it fine when used on a lap, or when you are using it in bed??



Fan noise isn't so bad, also you can switch it off on boot options. Hinge never bothered me so far either.
I have this. No issues what so ever.
A perfect laptop for basic computing needs, photo editing (1080p screen), Internet usage, word processing etc.
I'm sure it's not a high spec laptop for gaming but I really don't care as I don't do that, so don't need it.
How is the fan noise? Some reviews on the internet point that fan keeps running sometime even when idle?
Also, if you can shed some light on the very different hinge, is it fine when used on a lap, or when you are using it in bed??
I have this. No issues what so ever.

A perfect laptop for basic computing needs, photo editing (1080p screen), Internet usage, word processing etc.

I'm sure it's not a high spec laptop for gaming but I really don't care as I don't do that, so don't need it.
hp+envy+amd that worst combination ever , no wonder they getting bad reviews for this money y can get way better laptop
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It's now £379' anyone got one ?
Mines just arrived. Fairly decent build quality as far as i can tell, all plastic construction though (top is brushed aluminium effect). None of the CPU Temp apps seem to detect the CPU so not sure how hot it's running. Heres a crystal disk mark run for anyone wanting to see the performance of the M.2 SSD. It's nice to have the extra screen space with the higher resolution but it's a bit washed out (As expected from what i assume is a TN panel). I've used the wireless with no issues. Comes with the usual HP bloatware but easy to get rid of. £10 cashback tracked straight away on quidco and can claim a free game with the laptop too (i got Dirt Rally, can't remember what the others were)
Try HWInfo for CPU temps. It's pretty reliable.
Yeah HWInfo seems to detect it! I'd already tried Core Temp, Real Temp, MWMonitor, open hardware monitor with none of them showing.
If HWInfo is correct, it was idling at 23c and maxxed out at 46c after 15 mins of Prime95.
How loud are the fans under normal usage?
I've got mine here but not opened it yet as waiting to receive another laptop ive bought which ill probably have instead
Dead silent. Fan didn't even kick in after 15 mins of Prime95

From the silly comments others have said I was expecting it to be super loud!
Mines just arrived. Fairly decent build quality as far as i can tell, all plastic construction though (top is brushed aluminium effect). None of the CPU Temp apps seem to detect the CPU so not sure how hot it's running. Heres a crystal disk mark run for anyone wanting to see the performance of the M.2 SSD. It's nice to have the extra screen space with the higher resolution but it's a bit washed out (As expected from what i assume is a TN panel). I've used the wireless with no issues. Comes with the usual HP bloatware but easy to get rid of. £10 cashback tracked straight away on quidco and can claim a free game with the laptop too (i got Dirt Rally, can't remember what the others were)
Try HWInfo for CPU temps. It's pretty reliable.
Yeah HWInfo seems to detect it! I'd already tried Core Temp, Real Temp, MWMonitor, open hardware monitor with none of them showing.
If HWInfo is correct, it was idling at 23c and maxxed out at 46c after 15 mins of Prime95.
How loud are the fans under normal usage?
I've got mine here but not opened it yet as waiting to receive another laptop ive bought which ill probably have instead

Dead silent. Fan didn't even kick in after 15 mins of Prime95
Mines just arrived. Fairly decent build quality as far as i can tell, all plastic construction though (top is brushed aluminium effect). None of the CPU Temp apps seem to detect the CPU so not sure how hot it's running. Heres a crystal disk mark run for anyone wanting to see the performance of the M.2 SSD. It's nice to have the extra screen space with the higher resolution but it's a bit washed out (As expected from what i assume is a TN panel). I've used the wireless with no issues. Comes with the usual HP bloatware but easy to get rid of. £10 cashback tracked straight away on quidco and can claim a free game with the laptop too (i got Dirt Rally, can't remember what the others were)
Try HWInfo for CPU temps. It's pretty reliable.
Yeah HWInfo seems to detect it! I'd already tried Core Temp, Real Temp, MWMonitor, open hardware monitor with none of them showing.
If HWInfo is correct, it was idling at 23c and maxxed out at 46c after 15 mins of Prime95.

How loud are the fans under normal usage?

I've got mine here but not opened it yet as waiting to receive another laptop ive bought which ill probably have instead
Mines just arrived. Fairly decent build quality as far as i can tell, all plastic construction though (top is brushed aluminium effect). None of the CPU Temp apps seem to detect the CPU so not sure how hot it's running. Heres a crystal disk mark run for anyone wanting to see the performance of the M.2 SSD. It's nice to have the extra screen space with the higher resolution but it's a bit washed out (As expected from what i assume is a TN panel). I've used the wireless with no issues. Comes with the usual HP bloatware but easy to get rid of. £10 cashback tracked straight away on quidco and can claim a free game with the laptop too (i got Dirt Rally, can't remember what the others were)
Try HWInfo for CPU temps. It's pretty reliable.

Yeah HWInfo seems to detect it! I'd already tried Core Temp, Real Temp, MWMonitor, open hardware monitor with none of them showing.

If HWInfo is correct, it was idling at 23c and maxxed out at 46c after 15 mins of Prime95.
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First post so take it easy on me! This is a daily deal by Overclockers.co.uk Here is a good deal in my opinion on an Asus Radeon R9 390 OC Strix graphics card. It isnt the cheapest it has been but
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With the 1080 Founders Editions retailing at £620 I doubt we'll see a sub £300 1070.
With $330 970s starting at £230 in the UK within weeks of launch, sub-£300 for the $380 1070 doesn't seem far-fetched.

Or to put it another way, they'd be absolutely flipping crazy to price it at £309.99 instead of £299.99!!! X)
Amazon have price matched.
Hope i'm doing it right!
Looks like a good post with lots of useful information. I haven't used OCUK in about a decade, so is there a way to remove the £10.50 delivery costs?
Either way, though, with the 1070 about two weeks away and expected at under £300, I doubt we'll see any £200-300 graphics cards get "Hot" this month. ;)

With the 1080 Founders Editions retailing at £620 I doubt we'll see a sub £300 1070.


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Yeah never buying from overclockers again after being refused a refund on a duff motherboard by their german parent caseking.
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upcoming titles such as Portal 3, Half Life 3, Doom.

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Not cheap, but a bargain at this price. This card tests everywhere as better than the NVidia GTX 960, which is £150+. If you're building a budget gaming PC this beats everything close to this price po…
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Looking forward to seeing some further benchmarks. This one needs to be taken with a pinch of salt
http://videocardz.com/60265/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-3dmark-firestrike-benchmarks#disqus_thread

1070 comes out on June 10th.
No. That card isn't much better in comparison, if it was the 390x and it was cheap then maybe so.
If your planning on upgrading I would wait until the gtx 1070 comes out now anyways, July if I remember right
Even better , would imagine 9## cards should drop in price with the release of the new ones, guess we will see though
Looks like the 1070 is a monster card... Might be hard to pass it up.
1070 comes out on June 10th.
No. That card isn't much better in comparison, if it was the 390x and it was cheap then maybe so.
If your planning on upgrading I would wait until the gtx 1070 comes out now anyways, July if I remember right
Even better , would imagine 9## cards should drop in price with the release of the new ones, guess we will see though

Looks like the 1070 is a monster card... Might be hard to pass it up.
1070 comes out on June 10th.
No. That card isn't much better in comparison, if it was the 390x and it was cheap then maybe so.
If your planning on upgrading I would wait until the gtx 1070 comes out now anyways, July if I remember right

Even better , would imagine 9## cards should drop in price with the release of the new ones, guess we will see though
1070 comes out on June 10th.
No. That card isn't much better in comparison, if it was the 390x and it was cheap then maybe so.
If your planning on upgrading I would wait until the gtx 1070 comes out now anyways, July if I remember right

No. That card isn't much better in comparison, if it was the 390x and it was cheap then maybe so.

If your planning on upgrading I would wait until the gtx 1070 comes out now anyways, July if I remember right
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Really good price. Select the sold and dispatched from Amazon option. seems to be the same price a nonX 390. Note: out of stock but still available to order. Gigabyte Radeon R9 390X G1 Gaming 8192M…
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Finally got a shipping notification that mine arrives tomorrow.
Now to decide if I open it or not.
rev6
daviescr
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Does anyone know whether this considered a good buy for [email protected] please? Thank you.
Sure.
Hi, Thanks for your reply. Are these more power hungry than nVidia GPUs though? Thanks again.
They consume more power yes.
Thanks
£339.98 now
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Does anyone know whether this considered a good buy for [email protected] please? Thank you.
Sure.
Hi, Thanks for your reply. Are these more power hungry than nVidia GPUs though? Thanks again.

They consume more power yes.
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Purchased the xfx-radeon-fury-triple-fan for my HTC Vive VR system a few weeks ago for the pre-order price of £360:http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/xfx-radeon-fury-triple-fan-4096mb-hbm-pci-express-graphics-card-r9-fury-4tf9-359-2430969
Am wondering whether the Fury's performance over the 390X is worth the extra £100 as I could cancel the Fury order?
Any thoughts on the difference between the two appreciated...
-Mikee-

The 390X does extremely well in DX12 for the price and age of the GPU. 4GB more VRAM. I'd wait for the new GPU's.
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Seen these cards for over £250, friend bought it a month ago for £260~ and it is definitely worth it at this price. Good high end card that is better than a GTX 970 and is similar to a GTX 980 (maybe
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After an extremely disappointing experience with a GTX970, I may be tempted to convert to Amd! If I can bring myself to!
What was disappointing?
​It wasn't the 3.5gb vram issue.
It's the fact that there seems to be an alarming number of cases of the 970 losing output signal and crashing the system. It's either an inherent fault within the cards determined by the 'silicon lottery' or there's an unstated compatibility issue out there.
If you Google 'GTX970 black screen' there are literally hundreds of threads on various forums out there with exactly the same problem, seemingly with no solution.
The bit that **** me off the most though is that there's NO official response from Nvidia on this, even though the geforce forums have the largest concentration of people reporting the issue. They just don't seem to care!
It's such a shame because when the 970 works, it's absolutely phenomenal!!

That sounds like a bad PSU...

Have you considered that possibility?
Thanks for your comment, I get what you mean. I payed £299.99 Xmas just gone. That,s all the funds i had. Cheers.
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hi, I have a HP Pavilion 550-111na Desktop PC it has a R7 installed from new can i upgrade to this R9, If so what else do i need to know or do. Not very good with the tech bits so go easy. Thanks
​dont buy crappy branded PCs mate, next time build a custom one yourself or get one built by someone like ovetclockers
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After an extremely disappointing experience with a GTX970, I may be tempted to convert to Amd! If I can bring myself to!

What was disappointing?


​It wasn't the 3.5gb vram issue.

It's the fact that there seems to be an alarming number of cases of the 970 losing output signal and crashing the system. It's either an inherent fault within the cards determined by the 'silicon lottery' or there's an unstated compatibility issue out there.

If you Google 'GTX970 black screen' there are literally hundreds of threads on various forums out there with exactly the same problem, seemingly with no solution.

The bit that **** me off the most though is that there's NO official response from Nvidia on this, even though the geforce forums have the largest concentration of people reporting the issue. They just don't seem to care!

It's such a shame because when the 970 works, it's absolutely phenomenal!!
Good price on the card! Those worried about power consumption, I can confirm that a 500watt PSU might be enough.

I have a 6600k o/c'd to 3.4, 16gb ram, 2x2tb, SSD with the Sapphire Nitro R9 390 (which is known to use more power than most) and with the help of a plug power reader at most, my computer was consuming around 320-330watt, on odd occasion nearer 350 but that is once every blue moon. I checked whilst running Black Ops 3 and GTA5.
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Good deal for anyone who needs a GPU right now After preorders are done the standard price will be £389.99 - 500W or greater PSU required - Power Connectors: 2x 8-pin required - Display Outputs: 1…
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Its a pre order, so they dont have them in stock yet
Anyone bought and recieved GPU via this deal?
Elevation
Smoking173850
Elevation
No cold voters are likely to be those who splashed over £300 on a graphics card, only to see the price slashed by at least a third less than 1 year later. Not voted either way. If money is no object yeah I'm sure it's a 'great price' but this is silly money for any graphics card - as are the eye-watering prices for even more extreme models - for which no game even exists that will even need that level of processing power.
You must be joking right?
Some of the new games can't get a solid 60fps at 1080p ultra let alone 1440p and 4K.
Plus people want 144fps to go with there 144hz monitor.
I think u must be trolling haha :p

I don't know if they hold their value any more than the last time I wasted £300+ on a graphics card - but that will be the very LAST time I waste over £300 on a graphics card. Except if I find a suitcase of used notes of course.


​Yes i know what you mean, going to wait till the gfx cards catch up to 4k, it'll be a while. :-\
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Graphics cards are in danger of going the way cpu's have.
Intel have had no real competition and it shows in their cpu's. Hardly changed since about 2008.
AMD really need to pull something out of the bag both with Zen & Polaris.
Strong competition is good for the consumer.
I'm team red. Not because I think they are always better but because if Intel/nvidia get the monopoly then I'm turning to console gaming.
It's nowhere near like the CPU situation.
​I didn't say it was....
Yet.
I said, gpu's are in danger of going that way.
The signs are there.

AMD are competing in the GPU market. They have a rival in each tier, apart from maybe the Titan X. Yes, NVIDIA have most of the market, that doesn't mean they aren't competiting, it just means NVIDIA have a bigger budget for marketing, which they clearly do, if you see the latest games with GameWorks.
AMD pushed for FreeSync, HBM, GPUOpen, LiquidVR, and even Mantle. It's not like they're sitting their idle not doing anything for the GPU market.

When was the last AMD desktop CPU released that wasn't just an overclocked version of an older overclocked version? Sure, if people stop buying AMD products, and they can no longer afford to compete, it will likely go the way you think it's going... That could happen to any company.

The coming generation (Polaris, Pascal) is the first lot of GPU's released after DX12/Vulkan. It will be interesting to see how much better GCN architecture can perform once they home in on it. You see how the 290X and 390X perform being unleashed from the CPU.

Maybe we can come back to this at the end of the year :)


Edited By: rev6 on Apr 18, 2016 17:17
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mikem1989
Graphics cards are in danger of going the way cpu's have.
Intel have had no real competition and it shows in their cpu's. Hardly changed since about 2008.
AMD really need to pull something out of the bag both with Zen & Polaris.
Strong competition is good for the consumer.
I'm team red. Not because I think they are always better but because if Intel/nvidia get the monopoly then I'm turning to console gaming.

It's nowhere near like the CPU situation.


​I didn't say it was....
Yet.

I said, gpu's are in danger of going that way.

The signs are there.
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1) 290x can be bought same price as a 960 now if you look hard enough
2) no I just buy the better product that lasts longer and is cheaper while giving more future proof.
You just love nvidia full stop and I would happily buy nvidia like I use to if they made real inovatives cards again, when open platform , stop gameworks which is destroying PC gaming and stop crippling there cards after 18 month of purchase.
Till all those issue stop then I will continue to buy there products again.
3) yes 979 was the better card at 1080p but now it loses in new games thanks to the gimp.
4) 750ti almost had a 50% price increase and Titan was just under double nearly. So no 290x was not snuffed at because of price it was because of heat and power comsumption. Your dreaming of you think 750ti was $549 dollars on release... No where close
780ti is doing great now but then what was it you said ? Hmmm oh yes 290x got a special advantage lol
What about the 6000 and 7000 series as they all boost under dx12 so I suppose there special too?
And people moan about refresh and then moan special advantage lol
Just shows you what a great card it was o start with and still be relevant after 2 gens or it tells you nvidia is crippling there cards.
Maybe 700 and 900 series get a special disadvantage

1) The 290x can't be bought for 120. If you have a link to purchase it, provide it. Put it up as a deal. http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-290X-GAMING-Graphics-PCI-E/dp/B00HQJBWIM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PowerColor-AXR9-290X-4GBD5-MDHG-OC/dp/B00G5BEBVM/ref=sr_1_15?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1460377476&sr=1-15&keywords=290x

Currently the 290x is priced higher than the 970.

2) Provide proof that NVIDIA gimp their cards. It doesn't happen, it is just something AMD fanboys pretend exists and just say those magic words and do nothing else. Prove it.

3) 970 still is superior. Nothing has changed. If you have proof to the contrary, link it. Prove it.

4) Read this again. The 750 TI, not the 780 TI. Read it carefully. The 80 quid graphics card beats the 450 quid graphics card in Linux. That is shameful. 750 ti shouldn't beat the Fury X at anything when FPS are counted.

5) AMD cards don't so much get a 'boost' under DX12. They stop being strangled by their poor DX11 performance. DX11 and AMD don't mix. They did a terrible job implementing it on their cards. This is widely understood.
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I had the 290x over a year ago and have moved on to better cards. The 290x stomps all over your 960 lol
Oh so a fantastic card now just has a special advantage lol
Amd support all there cards better than nvidia that's just a fact which is something nvidia needs to sort out.
290x spanks all 700 series cards and soanks the 970 and it matching a 980.
Then there is dx12 on top and you told people to buy a 970 as it was your duty to make informed decisions for people but now they have a nerfed card because of you and fan boyism and your whole save a few watts which is cheaper in the long run than a new card.
I don't want to argue but to say the 290x is not a legendary card to still be relevant today and beat next gen cards is a joke.
My mate is has his and he is playing 1440p at 60fps on ultra from a card back in 2013 that's incredible value he has had and he is going to get another boost with dx12 which your 700 series and 900 series won't get so yes it is a legendary card and quite possibly one of the all time greats!
Titian and 780ti can't even manage 1080p 60fps gaming on ultra let alone 1440p and then is beating the 970 lol
Not bad as a card that was snuffed at from release and to be fair and must have lost money due to the longevity of this card as I can't see my m8 upgrading any time soon with his freesync and dx12
1) You are comparing the 960 to the 290x. I don't know on what planet you compare a flagship card to the budget card. Terrible.
2) You keep talking about 'fanboyism' yet you spout off like everything AMD has done is great. It's fairly clear who the real fanboy is here.
3) The 970 is an excellent card, and it stomps the 290x at 1080p. It's done so for ages. http://www.anandtech.com/show/8568/the-geforce-gtx-970-review-feat-evga The 970 is a great card.
4) The 780ti and Titan can manage 1080p 60fps, you are having a laugh man. I also don't get why you continually miss type the word "Titan" it's dead simple. Work on that buddy.
5) The 290x was snuffed at release because it cost about the same as the 780ti, $549. It wasn't the top card at the time, and even with your cherry picking, the 780ti beats the 290x. Link a full review that shows otherwise.
1) 290x can be bought same price as a 960 now if you look hard enough

2) no I just buy the better product that lasts longer and is cheaper while giving more future proof.
You just love nvidia full stop and I would happily buy nvidia like I use to if they made real inovatives cards again, when open platform , stop gameworks which is destroying PC gaming and stop crippling there cards after 18 month of purchase.
Till all those issue stop then I will continue to buy there products again.

3) yes 979 was the better card at 1080p but now it loses in new games thanks to the gimp.

4) 750ti almost had a 50% price increase and Titan was just under double nearly. So no 290x was not snuffed at because of price it was because of heat and power comsumption. Your dreaming of you think 750ti was $549 dollars on release... No where close
780ti is doing great now but then what was it you said ? Hmmm oh yes 290x got a special advantage lol
What about the 6000 and 7000 series as they all boost under dx12 so I suppose there special too?
And people moan about refresh and then moan special advantage lol
Just shows you what a great card it was o start with and still be relevant after 2 gens or it tells you nvidia is crippling there cards.
Maybe 700 and 900 series get a special disadvantage

Edited By: Smoking173850 on Apr 11, 2016 10:50: M
Smoking173850
I had the 290x over a year ago and have moved on to better cards. The 290x stomps all over your 960 lol
Oh so a fantastic card now just has a special advantage lol
Amd support all there cards better than nvidia that's just a fact which is something nvidia needs to sort out.
290x spanks all 700 series cards and soanks the 970 and it matching a 980.
Then there is dx12 on top and you told people to buy a 970 as it was your duty to make informed decisions for people but now they have a nerfed card because of you and fan boyism and your whole save a few watts which is cheaper in the long run than a new card.
I don't want to argue but to say the 290x is not a legendary card to still be relevant today and beat next gen cards is a joke.
My mate is has his and he is playing 1440p at 60fps on ultra from a card back in 2013 that's incredible value he has had and he is going to get another boost with dx12 which your 700 series and 900 series won't get so yes it is a legendary card and quite possibly one of the all time greats!
Titian and 780ti can't even manage 1080p 60fps gaming on ultra let alone 1440p and then is beating the 970 lol
Not bad as a card that was snuffed at from release and to be fair and must have lost money due to the longevity of this card as I can't see my m8 upgrading any time soon with his freesync and dx12

1) You are comparing the 960 to the 290x. I don't know on what planet you compare a flagship card to the budget card. Terrible.

2) You keep talking about 'fanboyism' yet you spout off like everything AMD has done is great. It's fairly clear who the real fanboy is here.

3) The 970 is an excellent card, and it stomps the 290x at 1080p. It's done so for ages. http://www.anandtech.com/show/8568/the-geforce-gtx-970-review-feat-evga The 970 is a great card.

4) The 780ti and Titan can manage 1080p 60fps, you are having a laugh man. I also don't get why you continually miss type the word "Titan" it's dead simple. Work on that buddy.

5) The 290x was snuffed at release because it cost about the same as the 780ti, $549. It wasn't the top card at the time, and even with your cherry picking, the 780ti beats the 290x. Link a full review that shows otherwise.
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Nate1492
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No I don't own a 290x any more as I bought a fury about a year ago nearly and yes it was the best in it's class what are you on about ? Lol
Totally agree voodoo was epic.
Jealous that a 290x is beating the original Titian and 780ti in its class and took a rest and now does the 970 and if u overclock it it now takes on a 980.
You do know 390x performance can achieved with a overclock on a 290x and if that not a great value card then I don't know what is.
Keep telling people to buy the gimped 970 lol
780ti and Titian were in the same class as a 290x which was the best from amd and it destroys both 780ti and Titian.
The last game the division is 10fps behind on the 780ti and 16fps for the Titian. All cost more , same generation and all get whacked up.
Nate is a nvidia hard core fan boy in denial mode and quite possibly buyers remorse with his gimped 960 (_;)
So you did own a 290x. Nailed that ;-)
You make silly comments about the 290x 'beating' the original Titan and 780ti... But what about the 750ti beating the Fury X in Linux?
For an open sourced company, AMD are absolutely screwing over the open source OS.
The 290x has a special advantage, it is a card that is supported by AMD because they rebadged it to the 390x and are engineering drivers to games.
Both companies do this, tweaking the current cards for the current games. But it's a joke to compare 2 or 3 generations cards against new games with the latest cards.
But since you seem to think the 290x 'beats' the 780x in The Division, I'll just leave you this:http://wccftech.com/nvidia-amd-the-division-pc-benchmarks-test/
Even WCCFTECH doesn't agree with your 290x beating the 780ti in The Division.
I had the 290x over a year ago and have moved on to better cards. The 290x stomps all over your 960 lol
Oh so a fantastic card now just has a special advantage lol
Amd support all there cards better than nvidia that's just a fact which is something nvidia needs to sort out.
290x spanks all 700 series cards and soanks the 970 and it matching a 980.
Then there is dx12 on top and you told people to buy a 970 as it was your duty to make informed decisions for people but now they have a nerfed card because of you and fan boyism and your whole save a few watts which is cheaper in the long run than a new card.
I don't want to argue but to say the 290x is not a legendary card to still be relevant today and beat next gen cards is a joke.
My mate is has his and he is playing 1440p at 60fps on ultra from a card back in 2013 that's incredible value he has had and he is going to get another boost with dx12 which your 700 series and 900 series won't get so yes it is a legendary card and quite possibly one of the all time greats!
Titian and 780ti can't even manage 1080p 60fps gaming on ultra let alone 1440p and then is beating the 970 lol
Not bad as a card that was snuffed at from release and to be fair and must have lost money due to the longevity of this card as I can't see my m8 upgrading any time soon with his freesync and dx12
And who the hell uses Linux for serious PC gaming ??
Don't use silly cherry picking at point scoring as no PC gamer worth his salt would entertain Linux and if they did they wouldn't be buying high end cards as they would most Lilly be running of intergrated graphics
Nate1492
Smoking173850
No I don't own a 290x any more as I bought a fury about a year ago nearly and yes it was the best in it's class what are you on about ? Lol
Totally agree voodoo was epic.
Jealous that a 290x is beating the original Titian and 780ti in its class and took a rest and now does the 970 and if u overclock it it now takes on a 980.
You do know 390x performance can achieved with a overclock on a 290x and if that not a great value card then I don't know what is.
Keep telling people to buy the gimped 970 lol
780ti and Titian were in the same class as a 290x which was the best from amd and it destroys both 780ti and Titian.
The last game the division is 10fps behind on the 780ti and 16fps for the Titian. All cost more , same generation and all get whacked up.
Nate is a nvidia hard core fan boy in denial mode and quite possibly buyers remorse with his gimped 960 (_;)
So you did own a 290x. Nailed that ;-)
You make silly comments about the 290x 'beating' the original Titan and 780ti... But what about the 750ti beating the Fury X in Linux?
For an open sourced company, AMD are absolutely screwing over the open source OS.
The 290x has a special advantage, it is a card that is supported by AMD because they rebadged it to the 390x and are engineering drivers to games.
Both companies do this, tweaking the current cards for the current games. But it's a joke to compare 2 or 3 generations cards against new games with the latest cards.
But since you seem to think the 290x 'beats' the 780x in The Division, I'll just leave you this:http://wccftech.com/nvidia-amd-the-division-pc-benchmarks-test/
Even WCCFTECH doesn't agree with your 290x beating the 780ti in The Division.
I had the 290x over a year ago and have moved on to better cards. The 290x stomps all over your 960 lol
Oh so a fantastic card now just has a special advantage lol
Amd support all there cards better than nvidia that's just a fact which is something nvidia needs to sort out.
290x spanks all 700 series cards and soanks the 970 and it matching a 980.
Then there is dx12 on top and you told people to buy a 970 as it was your duty to make informed decisions for people but now they have a nerfed card because of you and fan boyism and your whole save a few watts which is cheaper in the long run than a new card.
I don't want to argue but to say the 290x is not a legendary card to still be relevant today and beat next gen cards is a joke.
My mate is has his and he is playing 1440p at 60fps on ultra from a card back in 2013 that's incredible value he has had and he is going to get another boost with dx12 which your 700 series and 900 series won't get so yes it is a legendary card and quite possibly one of the all time greats!
Titian and 780ti can't even manage 1080p 60fps gaming on ultra let alone 1440p and then is beating the 970 lol
Not bad as a card that was snuffed at from release and to be fair and must have lost money due to the longevity of this card as I can't see my m8 upgrading any time soon with his freesync and dx12
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Great price.
Crazy to think from around this time next year you will have this level of performance inside an AMD ZEN APU.
Got a source for that?
Not officially but reports suggest that Bristol Ridge will mimick the power of XBOX one this year (this summer) and Zen APU's will perform on par with PS4, the graphical power of which is similar to what this GPU offers (maybe a little more).http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-launch-q4-2016/http://www.kitguru.net/components/apu-components/matthew-wilson/amd-said-to-be-working-on-zen-apu-with-hbm/http://www.tweaktown.com/news/50722/amds-upcoming-bristol-ridge-apu-faster-xbox-one/index.html
​this gpu is miles more powerfull than a ps4 what you on about

Available power is not the same as harnessed power. IE an f1 driver can get round a track quicker in a mini than I can in an f1 car.


​no cos some f1 drivers dont even have a car
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Why would you think a graphics card would cost more to utilise Vulkan API? The latest Nvidia drivers have Vulkan API support, Retroarch now supports it and the Nvidia Shield range of devices.
I can only draw conclusions from the evidence that's provided, the only game benchmarked so far performs dreadfully on Vulkan.

I think we both agree Vulkan isn't ready yet and not for quite some time.
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While it is great to get a free game with any purchase isn't this one an odd choice? When I seen benchmarks with this card it looks like it would average 10 fps. That might make the game unplayable. Still a good deal though.
10 FPS?

I was reading this review and that's what they suggested a 380 would do techpowerup mixed GPU review from re-reading the article they set the visuals to "crazy" I suppose that would do it. Serves me right for posting at night.
pauuu
While it is great to get a free game with any purchase isn't this one an odd choice? When I seen benchmarks with this card it looks like it would average 10 fps. That might make the game unplayable. Still a good deal though.

10 FPS?
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getting a feeling of deja vidia here....:p
Ooooooooooooooo, good card. nice price, bit better than a 960... bit thirsty though, and it this price (even though cheapish) point might put some people of.

Although it's not VR ready, you could slap another one in crossfire. But not really the best combination really.

Welp, I read that wrong, it's not that thirsty afterall! still a bit more than a 960, but not by that much

http://media.bestofmicro.com/H/2/504758/gallery/Gaming_r_600x510.png
AMD drivers are much better now.... hey, it''s hard to find realiable staff these days!

Edited By: tahir_owen on Apr 03, 2016 22:27
Ferrari100
BetaRomeo
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Not good for VR unfortunately
htc vive was reassessed and now a 280 is recommended
Async compute strikes again for AMD
:-)
Meanwhile for Nvidia it's still a GTX970 recommended.
Ahh, I'm so glad you're here. There's another reason we're all abandoning Nvidia, isn't there? You did suggest that you had some inside information about "big announcements" in March that would leave Nvidia high and dry, right?
Ferrari100
may I recommend selling it on before the middle of March when there will be some big announcements being made.
The second hand market will be flooded with Nvidia GPU's after that.
;-)
Ferrari100
Wait for the GDC conference in March before making up your mind for a future GPU and want facts.
Now, I like to think of myself as both fairly up-to-date on graphics tech, and a keen shopper. However, not only did I apparently miss these "big announcements", but I haven't seen all of these used Nvidia cards flooding the market. What exactly is it that I have missed?
The cynic in me wonders if you were just inventing something - anything - to forestall someone from buying a Nvidia card! Surely that's not the case? :{
Perhaps you should finally respond to Nate1492's comment:
Nate1492
"You keep using this word "facts" about things that haven't happened yet. You honestly do not know what the word "fact" means here.
Every NVIDIA thread you come into and talk about some mythical future event related to AMD.
At one point, you told people to wait for the Crimson drivers because they'd offer a huge performance boost. That was a lie/incorrect guess.http://www.anandtech.com/show/9811/amd-crimson-driver-overview/5
At one point you claimed the 300 line would be a massive upgrade compared to the 970.
The 300 series has not panned out.
Honestly, you make so many bold AMD claims that have never came to fruition. Why should we trust what you say about future AMD events? You've offered no proof and have no track record of your claims working out!
Because, to my eyes at least, it seems that you've just been sharing false information yet again.
Eriously though, you spend that much time on me. I'm flattered. Lol
Yes, I'm completely erious.
What happened at GDC last month that meant we should all abandon Nvidia?

(By the way, if you think it takes a long time to hit ctrl-D, and later copy/paste some text, it's possible that you may be experiencing some driver issues? Only takes me a couple of seconds.)
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Not good for VR unfortunately
htc vive was reassessed and now a 280 is recommended
Async compute strikes again for AMD
:-)
Meanwhile for Nvidia it's still a GTX970 recommended.
Ahh, I'm so glad you're here. There's another reason we're all abandoning Nvidia, isn't there? You did suggest that you had some inside information about "big announcements" in March that would leave Nvidia high and dry, right?
Ferrari100
may I recommend selling it on before the middle of March when there will be some big announcements being made.
The second hand market will be flooded with Nvidia GPU's after that.
;-)
Ferrari100
Wait for the GDC conference in March before making up your mind for a future GPU and want facts.
Now, I like to think of myself as both fairly up-to-date on graphics tech, and a keen shopper. However, not only did I apparently miss these "big announcements", but I haven't seen all of these used Nvidia cards flooding the market. What exactly is it that I have missed?
The cynic in me wonders if you were just inventing something - anything - to forestall someone from buying a Nvidia card! Surely that's not the case? :{
Perhaps you should finally respond to Nate1492's comment:
Nate1492
"You keep using this word "facts" about things that haven't happened yet. You honestly do not know what the word "fact" means here.
Every NVIDIA thread you come into and talk about some mythical future event related to AMD.
At one point, you told people to wait for the Crimson drivers because they'd offer a huge performance boost. That was a lie/incorrect guess.http://www.anandtech.com/show/9811/amd-crimson-driver-overview/5
At one point you claimed the 300 line would be a massive upgrade compared to the 970.
The 300 series has not panned out.
Honestly, you make so many bold AMD claims that have never came to fruition. Why should we trust what you say about future AMD events? You've offered no proof and have no track record of your claims working out!
Because, to my eyes at least, it seems that you've just been sharing false information yet again.
Eriously though, you spend that much time on me. I'm flattered. Lol
Yes, I'm completely erious.
What happened at GDC last month that meant we should all abandon Nvidia?

Good for you.

Lets take a look at how Nvidia continue to mess up this years drivers for their GPU's
The last three months they can't even get that right. Not even paid marketers/Astro turfers are able to stop the truth about poor drivers.

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40364-nvidia-geforce-364-72-drivers-come-with-plenty-of-issues
I love low spec grapbics card arguments.
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Damn, that's the second time I've missed these :p
I already brought a kit a few weeks ago and installed on a ASRock FM2A88X-ITX that supported AMP and XMP profiles. Didn't get a stable system when using AMP...on XMP they work great :)
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Im using 2133 2x4gb ripjaws together with xeon v3 1230 and asrock fatality h87 performance and sapphire r290 tri-x. Is this a good ram for my setup?
It is expired and wouldn't really help you. This ram is specifically made for APUs which utilise the high speeds

LOL, mate - please do not publish misleading info.
Memory "for AMD only" doesn't mean it's "utilised" for any specific CPU (especially for APUs), but it simply means its chip architecture is supported by AMD chipsets/CPUs, and might not be supported by Intel.
Of course there are memories that will run better at AMD platform due to AMP profiles, but they will work with Intel as well. The same story is with XMP profiles - those memory sticks will work with AMD, too.

But "for AMD only" means high density inside chips architecture - which AMD will support better, but not in 100%. Look here, it's old story:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Myth-Low-Density-vs-High-Density-memory-modules-/10000000001236187/g.html
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Im using 2133 2x4gb ripjaws together with xeon v3 1230 and asrock fatality h87 performance and sapphire r290 tri-x. Is this a good ram for my setup?
It is expired and wouldn't really help you. This ram is specifically made for APUs which utilise the high speeds
Im using 2133 2x4gb ripjaws together with xeon v3 1230 and asrock fatality h87 performance and sapphire r290 tri-x. Is this a good ram for my setup?
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Looked like a great deal
Gutted I missed this. :(
marklonsdale
Back up to £599.99
Hmm, now it's the same price as the i7 version: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-500-15-6-laptop-white-10137915-pdt.html
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A laptop adapter is included? Is it original too?
Back up to £599.99
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To those saying new cards are just around the corner, I don't think are going to see the next chipsets from AMD or nVidia until the end of the year.
Nvidia have announced their first Pascal GPU out in May and AMD have stated June or July.
Nothing been said officially, just speculation. Albeit seemingly credible speculation.

Quite credible speculation, yes.

http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/read/nvidia-pascal-graphics-cards-due-between-may-and-july-with-amd-polaris-gpus-expected-q3/037923

Certainly better than someone randomly saying "end of year" on a whim, no?
don't forget TC, it is 3% for Novatech
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people still game at 1080?? sheesh
You must really impress the ladies with your large resolutions.
Probably plays at 4k 15fps thinking he's a boss.
15fps is the dream I get 5fps if i am lucky.... its like looking at still... but I got it

What monitor are you using?
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people still game at 1080?? sheesh
You must really impress the ladies with your large resolutions.
Probably plays at 4k 15fps thinking he's a boss.
15fps is the dream I get 5fps if i am lucky.... its like looking at still... but I got it
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people still game at 1080?? sheesh
You must really impress the ladies with your large resolutions.
My resolutions bring all the girls to my yard....
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I just received mine, I was a bit put off my the bad feedback about svp after I ordered it, but the laptop seems in perfect condition. Not a mark or scratch on it. Loving the screen, even if it's only tft and the led keyboard lighting is cool. I'm hoping this will play diablo 3 ok.
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What's the screen going to be like? On the link lyns has put it says it has IPS screen so should be a good screen with good colours and angles, right? Also says WLED though so im confused
No.According to some people who bought HP Envy with FHD screen, HP states it has IPS screen, they tested and found Envy is actually TN panel.
HP was lying.
At this price, it may be ok. But do not expect the screen to be very good. Envy is a model does not come with good FHD screens.
Colour and view angle are not going to be good, same as any other budget laptop.
Having said that, you cannot find good FHD IPS screen laptops at this price range.
http://www.medion.com/gb/shop/budget-laptops-medion-akoya-e4213-md99547-30019565a1.html
No reviews so no idea as to the quality of the IPS FHD screen. Rest of the specs is comparatively pants though.
Even cheaper model with IPS FHD for £230 whilst skimping on everything else. These listed are new not refurbished.http://www.medion.com/gb/shop/budget-laptops-medion-akoya-e4213-md99545-30019561a1.html?wt_cc1=1_2&recommendationId=a43b7130-e868-11e5-8876-448a5b88215a
Anyone want to risk buying one of these and reviewing it?


Some one pointed out this Medion with IPS FHD at £270 last week to me.

I have not heard any reviews about its screen.

If the screen is good, it is a really good deal. £270 for Pentium N3540, IPS FHD, SSD+HDD, 4GB RAM.

The CPU is not powerful, but is certainly enough for day-to-day tasks. It together with the SSD will make the laptop run smooth. If ever feel need upgrade, increase the RAM to 8GB.

It is only a good deal if the screen is good. Because you could get business laptop with i3-4030u and 128GB SSD for £280, but non-FHD.

Edited By: huangxq2 on Mar 12, 2016 16:07
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What's the screen going to be like? On the link lyns has put it says it has IPS screen so should be a good screen with good colours and angles, right? Also says WLED though so im confused
No.According to some people who bought HP Envy with FHD screen, HP states it has IPS screen, they tested and found Envy is actually TN panel.
HP was lying.
At this price, it may be ok. But do not expect the screen to be very good. Envy is a model does not come with good FHD screens.
Colour and view angle are not going to be good, same as any other budget laptop.
Having said that, you cannot find good FHD IPS screen laptops at this price range.

http://www.medion.com/gb/shop/budget-laptops-medion-akoya-e4213-md99547-30019565a1.html

No reviews so no idea as to the quality of the IPS FHD screen. Rest of the specs is comparatively pants though.

Even cheaper model with IPS FHD for £230 whilst skimping on everything else. These listed are new not refurbished.
http://www.medion.com/gb/shop/budget-laptops-medion-akoya-e4213-md99545-30019561a1.html?wt_cc1=1_2&recommendationId=a43b7130-e868-11e5-8876-448a5b88215a

Anyone want to risk buying one of these and reviewing it?

Edited By: cidharten on Mar 12, 2016 15:46
pauuu
Does anyone know if the 8700p CPU used in this laptop suffer the same performance issues laptops with the 8800p CPUs do?

Its not that the CPU's have performance issue. The problem is OEM's have limited to output to 15w rather than 35w.
Still a great CPU - It's just not been given the opportunity to flex it's true capabilities.
Does anyone know if the 8700p CPU used in this laptop suffer the same performance issues laptops with the 8800p CPUs do?
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Anyone buy this. I can't get mine to run above 1866...even with the recommended timing.
what cpu are you using?
I'm using a 7850K with a cheapo £15 Asus A58M-E mobo. I've got it running now after disabling and re-enabling XMP in the bios. I also updated it to the latest bios, so I think that's what did the trick. I'm seeing the benefit in GPU performance with a Passmark 8 3D score of 1250 instead of 1000 using the 1600MHz RAM. I think that's pretty decent for an APU, with better performance than an R7 240, and about 75% of a 250.
Running a bunch of steam games it appears stable, with the exception of Assassin's Creed Unity, which crashes out pretty quick. It will run that if I drop the RAM down to 1866.
My bios actually reports it as 1866 RAM - does anyone else's do this?
should work with the 2133mhz memory but could be the case that the Mb does not like it unless you good on changing timing etc.. I would not worry very much if what you needed is the actual extra amount of ram.
In regards about improvement I doubt that you can feel any difference at all, passmark does also takes in consideration the amount of ram when testing, so if you had possibly 4 or 8gb and now 16gb, the points have drastically gone up and if you look at the other tests you will see that they have not changed much from the test with the previous ram(1600mhz) and anyway it will not give you a single extra FPS on a game as an example, not sure about other applications and how usefull can be if the change is not much (not in reality). Anyway, even if you will be able to use the ram at 2133mhz, note that it might not really work well and you might get a decreased performance instead. Using ram at the standard memory type the cpu can get is always best instead of messing up, 1600mhz in this case which I think is what your cpu can get without being O.C.
It is the CPU that pushes the ram to a higher performance and not the otherway round if O.C.( just a very little)
Put it this way, if you needed more memory, you got the bargain.
I have not received mine but I think that the 1866mhz profile must have a tighter timing making it not any less than the higher 2133mhz profile in terms of performance
Thanks for your reply there.
It's a funny one, by default the BIOS reports it as 1866MHz RAM, regardless of the clock-rate or XMP profile used. Everything is totally stable at 1866Mhz, and 90% of things run fine at 2133MHz.
From benchmarking, I can say that you're incorrect regarding the RAM speed making a difference to FPS. Experimental evidence tells me that the GPU spends at least 10-20% less time rendering a frame than with the previous 16GB of 1600MHz Crucial RAM. This is also backed up in numerous tech reports; which were the reason I opted for faster stuff in the first place. You are correct if you mean it makes very little difference when using a stand-alone GPU, with with an APU fast RAM is key.
The GPU part of the APU operates at frequencies that are bottlenecked by slow RAM. I believe that the 7850K can operate natively up to 2133MHz and 2400 with OC.
I didn't actually need more RAM, as I had 16GB before, I wanted to make the best of the meagre GPU without spending any real money (as I can sell the 1600MHz stuff for around what I bought this stuff for). I might actually do a return to see if they can send me a replacement, as I suspect that the RAM is just not operating properly at its rated speed.
got no much knowledge about inbuild GPU's. So it does defaults at 1866, must mean that the spd of the ram must be at around 900mhz(1800mhz). Can see now that your cpu supports 2133 natively, so you could even try to O.C. to 2400mhz more easily and see if you get any benefits or leave it O.C. @ 2133 by xmp or choose the frequency and timing manually

Edited By: miaomiaobaubau on Mar 13, 2016 22:39
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Anyone buy this. I can't get mine to run above 1866...even with the recommended timing.
what cpu are you using?
I'm using a 7850K with a cheapo £15 Asus A58M-E mobo. I've got it running now after disabling and re-enabling XMP in the bios. I also updated it to the latest bios, so I think that's what did the trick. I'm seeing the benefit in GPU performance with a Passmark 8 3D score of 1250 instead of 1000 using the 1600MHz RAM. I think that's pretty decent for an APU, with better performance than an R7 240, and about 75% of a 250.
Running a bunch of steam games it appears stable, with the exception of Assassin's Creed Unity, which crashes out pretty quick. It will run that if I drop the RAM down to 1866.
My bios actually reports it as 1866 RAM - does anyone else's do this?
should work with the 2133mhz memory but could be the case that the Mb does not like it unless you good on changing timing etc.. I would not worry very much if what you needed is the actual extra amount of ram.
In regards about improvement I doubt that you can feel any difference at all, passmark does also takes in consideration the amount of ram when testing, so if you had possibly 4 or 8gb and now 16gb, the points have drastically gone up and if you look at the other tests you will see that they have not changed much from the test with the previous ram(1600mhz) and anyway it will not give you a single extra FPS on a game as an example, not sure about other applications and how usefull can be if the change is not much (not in reality). Anyway, even if you will be able to use the ram at 2133mhz, note that it might not really work well and you might get a decreased performance instead. Using ram at the standard memory type the cpu can get is always best instead of messing up, 1600mhz in this case which I think is what your cpu can get without being O.C.
It is the CPU that pushes the ram to a higher performance and not the otherway round if O.C.( just a very little)
Put it this way, if you needed more memory, you got the bargain.
I have not received mine but I think that the 1866mhz profile must have a tighter timing making it not any less than the higher 2133mhz profile in terms of performance

Thanks for your reply there.

It's a funny one, by default the BIOS reports it as 1866MHz RAM, regardless of the clock-rate or XMP profile used. Everything is totally stable at 1866Mhz, and 90% of things run fine at 2133MHz.

From benchmarking, I can say that you're incorrect regarding the RAM speed making a difference to FPS. Experimental evidence tells me that the GPU spends at least 10-20% less time rendering a frame than with the previous 16GB of 1600MHz Crucial RAM. This is also backed up in numerous tech reports; which were the reason I opted for faster stuff in the first place. You are correct if you mean it makes very little difference when using a stand-alone GPU, with with an APU fast RAM is key.

The GPU part of the APU operates at frequencies that are bottlenecked by slow RAM. I believe that the 7850K can operate natively up to 2133MHz and 2400 with OC.

I didn't actually need more RAM, as I had 16GB before, I wanted to make the best of the meagre GPU without spending any real money (as I can sell the 1600MHz stuff for around what I bought this stuff for). I might actually do a return to see if they can send me a replacement, as I suspect that the RAM is just not operating properly at its rated speed.

Edited By: thekanester on Mar 13, 2016 22:16
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miaomiaobaubau
thekanester
Anyone buy this. I can't get mine to run above 1866...even with the recommended timing.
what cpu are you using?
I'm using a 7850K with a cheapo £15 Asus A58M-E mobo. I've got it running now after disabling and re-enabling XMP in the bios. I also updated it to the latest bios, so I think that's what did the trick. I'm seeing the benefit in GPU performance with a Passmark 8 3D score of 1250 instead of 1000 using the 1600MHz RAM. I think that's pretty decent for an APU, with better performance than an R7 240, and about 75% of a 250.
Running a bunch of steam games it appears stable, with the exception of Assassin's Creed Unity, which crashes out pretty quick. It will run that if I drop the RAM down to 1866.
My bios actually reports it as 1866 RAM - does anyone else's do this?

should work with the 2133mhz memory but could be the case that the Mb does not like it unless you good on changing timing etc.. I would not worry very much if what you needed is the actual extra amount of ram.
In regards about improvement I doubt that you can feel any difference at all, passmark does also takes in consideration the amount of ram when testing, so if you had possibly 4 or 8gb and now 16gb, the points have drastically gone up and if you look at the other tests you will see that they have not changed much from the test with the previous ram(1600mhz) and anyway it will not give you a single extra FPS on a game as an example, not sure about other applications and how usefull can be if the change is not much (not in reality). Anyway, even if you will be able to use the ram at 2133mhz, note that it might not really work well and you might get a decreased performance instead. Using ram at the standard memory type the cpu can get is always best instead of messing up, 1600mhz in this case which I think is what your cpu can get without being O.C.
It is the CPU that pushes the ram to a higher performance and not the otherway round if O.C.( just a very little)
Put it this way, if you needed more memory, you got the bargain.
I have not received mine but I think that the 1866mhz profile must have a tighter timing making it not any less than the higher 2133mhz profile in terms of performance



Edited By: miaomiaobaubau on Mar 13, 2016 18:52: dd
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Anyone buy this. I can't get mine to run above 1866...even with the recommended timing.
Yes mine arrived today. Enabled XMP in the bios and they run fine at the stated speed.
Thanks for the reply. I did the same, and it wasn't stable during stress testing. I also manually entered the timings with the same results. I've tried single sticks in either slot with same results. I shall continue...
Just ran prime95 for an hour set to use 15gb memory and it was stable on the 2133 XMP.

A good way to test if memory is stable is just to use it. I've tested with Prime95 before, all went fine, launched a game and then system lockup. Back to adjusting timings... :D
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thekanester
Anyone buy this. I can't get mine to run above 1866...even with the recommended timing.
what cpu are you using?

I'm using a 7850K with a cheapo £15 Asus A58M-E mobo. I've got it running now after disabling and re-enabling XMP in the bios. I also updated it to the latest bios, so I think that's what did the trick. I'm seeing the benefit in GPU performance with a Passmark 8 3D score of 1250 instead of 1000 using the 1600MHz RAM. I think that's pretty decent for an APU, with better performance than an R7 240, and about 75% of a 250.

Running a bunch of steam games it appears stable, with the exception of Assassin's Creed Unity, which crashes out pretty quick. It will run that if I drop the RAM down to 1866.

My bios actually reports it as 1866 RAM - does anyone else's do this?
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Smoking173850
Seriously u think HDMI is better than DisplayPort? Lol
Nowhere did I say that. In fact, I said that there are situations where DisplayPort is better, and situations where HDMI is better/cheaper. You may go back and read my comment again if you wish. It's still there. You don't have to operate from memory. "Lol".
Smoking173850
Maybe u should go check the specs out as DisplayPort blows HDMI out the water.
Why would I care about [email protected] if I have a TV or monitor that only supports UHD or 4K? Surely you... ah, you don't have DisplayPort. Well, here's the thing - having higher bandwidth available along your little 2-metre cable doesn't really mean anything if the display to which it's connected is [email protected] DP could have five hundred times the bandwidth of HDMI 2.0, and it just doesn't matter - they'll both knock out an identical image. What you have done, apparently, is seen some numbers, and decided the bigger one is better without considering if there is the slightest practical difference.

Or perhaps I have missed something? Could you explain to me, a lowly layman, how an image transmitted across a DisplayPort cable at [email protected] is superior to an image transmitted across an HDMI 2.0 cable at [email protected]? There's the variable refresh support... oh, and AMD can only manage to do one of them even on their flagship cards... and...? Oh, extremely short DisplayPort cables. But the picture is identical. How does one picture knock another, identical picture "out of the water"?

Surely you can understand, though, that there are some situations where some people would benefit from AMD supporting HDMI properly? What is it about that idea that makes you so angry?

Smoking173850
Why would u want to use a tv as the picture quality looks less crisp and lower refresh rates.
What are you talking about now? Oh, I see - you think that only TVs support HDMI 2.0. I apologise for correcting you again, but there are several monitors with HDMI 2.0 support.

But taking my personal setup as the basis for an example showing the importance of supporting both, I have a very large front room, and I have my computer desk at the "back". I would connect my PC up to the variable refresh monitor on the desk using DisplayPort, and I would also connect my PC up to the 4K projector at the back of the room using HDMI 2.0, to project onto my 140" screen. I would not be able to use a normal DisplayPort cable for the PJ without a serious amount of faffing, because the projector is more than 2m from my PC, and because - oh, yeah, there's no DisplayPort input on my projector, just HDMI 2.0! (And I also make use of the HDMI ethernet, so my projector is on the home network and I can stream from other sources more easily - I'd have to wire up another ethernet cable if I did somehow manage to force a DP cable into my projector's rear.)

So there's just one example of where no HDMI 2.0 support from AMD is a genuine problem. I prefer DisplayPort myself, but having both available means I can use my PC to drive both my just-for-me gaming monitor, and also my 140" screen for family viewing and big-screen/co-op gaming.

Is that something "u" can understand?

Smoking173850
Have no idea what challenge you are talking about so maybe u have the wrong person idk
I believe it was called the "Lol google it" Challenge, where you stated something that was patently untrue, and then asked us how quickly we could use Google to show that you had no idea what you were talking about. Here was my entry: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/gainward-pci-e-gtx980-ti-phoenix-gs-graphics-card-6144-mb-hdmi-dvi-499-99-amazon-2403947?p=27470480
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Lahn
Doogeh

No HMDI 2.0 yes, but has DisplayPort, which is the superior technology (higher data rates, freesync, etc).
As for new cards incoming, June/July at the earliest and these are reported to be the smaller mid-range GPUs. Monsters to come in the back end of the year.
I can't use display port on my 4K TV, I need HDMI... (also, I like to have sound!)
I'm eagerly awaiting next gen GPUs, and a mid range to run less demanding games @ 4K in my living room sounds great! :)
DisplayPort can transfer audio as well as video. HDMI is the consumer TV standard.
Why do people come to these pages and talk nonsense?
If your buying top cards then chances are your a serious gamer and would have a monitor to match your gpu.
DisplayPort is far superior to HDMI.
Still can't work out why u would game on a tv over a quality monitor if given the choice.
Quality gets knocked down on a tv so u may aswell save yourself a stack of cash and game on a console via HDMI
Having expensive cards locked at 60fps is maddness as u may aswell buy a card that can only do 60fps and not twice over while saving money.
4K on tv at 60fps with lower settings look worse and plays worse than a quality 1080p ,1440p or 4K monitor.



Edited By: Smoking173850 on Mar 07, 2016 14:39
Lahn
Doogeh

No HMDI 2.0 yes, but has DisplayPort, which is the superior technology (higher data rates, freesync, etc).
As for new cards incoming, June/July at the earliest and these are reported to be the smaller mid-range GPUs. Monsters to come in the back end of the year.
I can't use display port on my 4K TV, I need HDMI... (also, I like to have sound!)
I'm eagerly awaiting next gen GPUs, and a mid range to run less demanding games @ 4K in my living room sounds great! :)

DisplayPort can transfer audio as well as video. HDMI is the consumer TV standard.
BetaRomeo
Smoking173850
U want to use HDMI at 4K on a tv?
Display port is far better and both cards can't do 60fps ultra any way so I'm not sure what the problem is.
Yes amd were tight not giving HDMI 2 but u have displayport so it's all good.
Hnnnngh. DisplayPort does not provide a better picture at 4K compared with HDMI 2.0 (and DP is also lacking an audio return and ethernet). And if you're running a longer cable (e.g. longer than 2M), DisplayPort will get antsy - expect to drop to 1600P at max. Not to mention the other problems, like RBR cables.
There are many situations where DisplayPort is the better solution, but I'd wager that there are more situations for normal end-users where HDMI is better and/or cheaper. Broadly speaking, DisplayPort is really only good for desktop setups connecting directly from PCs to monitors over a distance of less than two metres.
But nice try to cover your misunderstanding of [email protected]
By the way, didn't I beat your challenge in that other thread? I'm still waiting for my prize! <3
Seriously u think HDMI is better than DisplayPort? Lol
You keep using your HDMI 2 and I will jump on DisplayPort 1.3 this autumn. Maybe u should go check the specs out as DisplayPort blows HDMI out the water. Why would u want to use a tv as the picture quality looks less crisp and lower refresh rates. You also lose your gsync/freesync on a tv.
If tv really is your thing then freesync HDMI tv's are coming so journalists tell us.
Have no idea what challenge you are talking about so maybe u have the wrong person idk
Doogeh

No HMDI 2.0 yes, but has DisplayPort, which is the superior technology (higher data rates, freesync, etc).
As for new cards incoming, June/July at the earliest and these are reported to be the smaller mid-range GPUs. Monsters to come in the back end of the year.

I can't use display port on my 4K TV, I need HDMI... (also, I like to have sound!)

I'm eagerly awaiting next gen GPUs, and a mid range to run less demanding games @ 4K in my living room sounds great! :)


Edited By: Lahn on Mar 07, 2016 12:12
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FTOdude170
thanks for your input, much much appreciated. I'll make sure my old works for trade in and get to purchasing :-)
You are welcome.
Please read my summary about HP cashbacks in reply no#1.http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-probook-450-g3-newest-business-laptop-i3-6100u-score-higher-than-i5-5200u-4gb-2415061?p=27595222
Gotcha, thanks :-)
They definitely accept tablets yeah? i couldnt see it on the website, it refers to 'device' a lot and when you click through from any given laptop it refers to 'desktop' or 'laptop'. but i guess i need to find the t's and c's really to checkity check it out. my old laptop, whilst it runs xp pro, is over 6 years old. so i need to look into cheap tablet route me thinks :-s
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Dave
I think you need to re-read my summary.
For your old laptop which comes with XP, no age limited, over 6 years is fine. It qualifies if it has at least 10 inch screen.
Tablet is fine, just need to make sure at least 9 inch screen.


apologies, i explained poorly. no it didnt come with XP, but it is running XP. im guessing theyll be able to see through that and find out that it originally came with something else :-s
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FTOdude170
thanks for your input, much much appreciated. I'll make sure my old works for trade in and get to purchasing :-)
You are welcome.
Please read my summary about HP cashbacks in reply no#1.http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-probook-450-g3-newest-business-laptop-i3-6100u-score-higher-than-i5-5200u-4gb-2415061?p=27595222
Gotcha, thanks :-)
They definitely accept tablets yeah? i couldnt see it on the website, it refers to 'device' a lot and when you click through from any given laptop it refers to 'desktop' or 'laptop'. but i guess i need to find the t's and c's really to checkity check it out. my old laptop, whilst it runs xp pro, is over 6 years old. so i need to look into cheap tablet route me thinks :-s
Thanks
Dave

I think you need to re-read my summary.

For your old laptop which comes with XP, no age limited, over 6 years is fine. It qualifies if it has at least 10 inch screen.

Tablet is fine, just need to make sure at least 9 inch screen.
huangxq2
FTOdude170
thanks for your input, much much appreciated. I'll make sure my old works for trade in and get to purchasing :-)
You are welcome.
Please read my summary about HP cashbacks in reply no#1.http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-probook-450-g3-newest-business-laptop-i3-6100u-score-higher-than-i5-5200u-4gb-2415061?p=27595222


Gotcha, thanks :-)

They definitely accept tablets yeah? i couldnt see it on the website, it refers to 'device' a lot and when you click through from any given laptop it refers to 'desktop' or 'laptop'. but i guess i need to find the t's and c's really to checkity check it out. my old laptop, whilst it runs xp pro, is over 6 years old. so i need to look into cheap tablet route me thinks :-s

Thanks

Dave
FTOdude170
thanks for your input, much much appreciated. I'll make sure my old works for trade in and get to purchasing :-)

You are welcome.

Please read my summary about HP cashbacks in reply no#1.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-probook-450-g3-newest-business-laptop-i3-6100u-score-higher-than-i5-5200u-4gb-2415061?p=27595222

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Cheapest a 390x has been in a while. In stock 28th February. £284.99 after amazon student/NUS.
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Manty
koahhe
Fireworks Merchant Limited is a Flubit company. You have nothing to worry about. I never had to claim warranty from Flubit but my girlfriend did in two different occasions and their customer service was very good.
Cheers fella, might go for it... saying that, I mainly play Fallout 4 so the 390X is probably overkill, the 390 is tempting - is your Sapphire 390 noisy?

It is not noisy enough to bother me during gaming. I do have a Fractal Design R5 case though which probable helps with that. You need a big case with good cooling as the card does produce some heat. I have two intake fans and one exhaust and my card is running at max 77C. Sapphire R9 390 apparently has the best cooling but it is not the best overclocker. To able to game without any artifacts I had to be happy with 1137/1600 clock. Stock is 1040/1500. I am very happy with how it runs my 1440p monitor though.
koahhe
Fireworks Merchant Limited is a Flubit company. You have nothing to worry about. I never had to claim warranty from Flubit but my girlfriend did in two different occasions and their customer service was very good.
Cheers fella, might go for it... saying that, I mainly play Fallout 4 so the 390X is probably overkill, the 390 is tempting - is your Sapphire 390 noisy?
Manty
koahhe
MoreBeer77
Did flubit, is it worth it at £274?
​I think it is worth it. If you want even more value you can get the XFX R9 390 for £233 from flubit. I have the Sapphire R9 390 and I am very happy with it. The 390x will give you no more than 3 to 5 more fps than the 390.
I also had as similar offer from Flubit, but the fact it was being sold by Fireworks Express or someone put me off - how do people go for warranty claims via considered Flubit purchases like this?

Fireworks Merchant Limited is a Flubit company. You have nothing to worry about. I never had to claim warranty from Flubit but my girlfriend did in two different occasions and their customer service was very good.

Edited By: koahhe on Feb 29, 2016 17:12
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MoreBeer77
Did flubit, is it worth it at £274?
​I think it is worth it. If you want even more value you can get the XFX R9 390 for £233 from flubit. I have the Sapphire R9 390 and I am very happy with it. The 390x will give you no more than 3 to 5 more fps than the 390.

I also had as similar offer from Flubit, but the fact it was being sold by Fireworks Express or someone put me off - how do people go for warranty claims via considered Flubit purchases like this?
Beautiful card