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XFX Radeon RX 480 RS 8GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI 3x DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card - £226.98 Ebuyer

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AMD Radeon RX 480 GPU XFX RS Edition 8GB GDDR5 Memory PCI-Express 3.0 Interface
unreliabletext Avatar1w, 2d agoFound 1 week, 2 days ago73 Comments
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mysticus
Nate1492
mysticus
Nate1492

Delusion is a powerful thing.
Keep partying with your imaginery friends... done with you buzzing fly...
Cute :-)
I feed cute flies to my lizard, he loves them cute...

Cute!
Nate1492
mysticus
Nate1492

Delusion is a powerful thing.
Keep partying with your imaginery friends... done with you buzzing fly...
Cute :-)
I feed cute flies to my lizard, he loves them cute...
mysticus
Nate1492

Delusion is a powerful thing.
Keep partying with your imaginery friends... done with you buzzing fly...

Cute :-)
Nate1492

Delusion is a powerful thing.

Keep partying with your imaginery friends... done with you buzzing fly...
mysticus
Nate1492

You don't get it, it's clear, so I don't expect you to self analyze and figure this out, so I'm not going to labor the point. You are clearly upset, as your posts are getting full of "****" and unintelligible ramblings.
I think you are just mumbling to yourself on the mirror, stop talking to yourself, not good for your brain mate.
Disagreement is one thing, being snob and self-righteous is another.
Read what i said, explained to you countless times what i said and meant, you are still looping yourself.. I dont know where your stop button...

I read what you said, I had a discussion about the things you said. I disagreed and you proceeded to call me names (old goat, snob, etc).

Delusion is a powerful thing.
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asus radeon 4gb rx 480 dual OC graphics card PLUS free bf1 deluxe edition upgrade £213.49 @ Scan (£4.79 collect from local shops del)

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Brand new asus radeon 4gb rx 480 dual oc graphics card. specs look good for the price. Scan is the cheapest place going at the moment. PLUS free battlefield 1 deluxe edition upgrade when you purchase
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reckoning
Is there much difference between this and a 380? Its played everything I've thrown at it so far on high settings.
An A380 is much bigger and more powerful.
http://www.britishairways.com/assets/images/information/about-ba/fleet-facts/airbus-380-800/photo-gallery/750x500-BA-A380-airbourne-14-high-res.jpg


​But will it play Minecraft on medium
I mean, the 170ish 1060 3gb was a great deal.

The 480 4gb at 213 is a bit of a joke!
yea the temps will not be effected it's more of an aesthetics thing. I went with the 4gb nitro though when it was £199, have no regrets.
reckoning
Is there much difference between this and a 380? Its played everything I've thrown at it so far on high settings.
An A380 is much bigger and more powerful.
http://www.britishairways.com/assets/images/information/about-ba/fleet-facts/airbus-380-800/photo-gallery/750x500-BA-A380-airbourne-14-high-res.jpg
Is there much difference between this and a 380? Its played everything I've thrown at it so far on high settings.
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XFX Radeon R7 370 2GB Graphics Card Used - Very Good £75.29 @ Amazon Warehouse

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Feel there is a real lack of graphics card below £100 at the moment. This would be a perfect card to try out PC gaming still would be cable of 1080p at medium to high settings. The next closest car…
keepitonthelow Avatar2w, 5d agoFound 2 weeks, 5 days ago10 Comments
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Price has gone up twice now almost £83 .

Edited By: belsibub on Sep 12, 2016 14:03
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Arcana
A worthy upgrade to my ageing GTX460?
Or is it simply a case of 'save a bit longer, as cards at £130/150 etc. are so much better and this card will be out of date in 6 months'?
It's an upgrade but not really sufficient to last you as long as your GTX 460 has. I had a 460 too and it was fine with BF4 on medium but anything newer and it was a struggle especially with VRAM. I'd say look at the 4GB cards like the RX470/480 if you want an AMD card, or if the price is low, the GTX 970. Any of those would last you a good while. The RX 460 and GTX 960 are decent too, but not as good value in the long term as their performance is a good way below the others. All of those cards would allow you to G-sync/Freesync too, which is well worth it if you'll be getting a new monitor in the future.


​Thanks for the reply.

Most of those cards are £180+ which is more than twice the price of this one apart from rx 460 which I'm not really sure is better anyway.

I don't game much, and when I do it's usually on ps4. Apart from Uncharted 4 I think the last game I bought was Tomb raider... On xbox 360 oO
The only game I want now is 'Inside' before Horizon zero dawn comes out next year.
I'm planning to get an i6700k though :D but I mostly use the PC for music production, don't have much time for gaming.
So, is it worth waiting a few months for another card to get closer to the £100-120 mark which I think is realisticly my upper limit?

Edited By: Arcana on Sep 11, 2016 10:32: .
Arcana
A worthy upgrade to my ageing GTX460?
Or is it simply a case of 'save a bit longer, as cards at £130/150 etc. are so much better and this card will be out of date in 6 months'?
It's an upgrade but not really sufficient to last you as long as your GTX 460 has. I had a 460 too and it was fine with BF4 on medium but anything newer and it was a struggle especially with VRAM. I'd say look at the 4GB cards like the RX470/480 if you want an AMD card, or if the price is low, the GTX 970. Any of those would last you a good while. The RX 460 and GTX 960 are decent too, but not as good value in the long term as their performance is a good way below the others. All of those cards would allow you to G-sync/Freesync too, which is well worth it if you'll be getting a new monitor in the future.
DO NOT BUY if you have freesync monitor

Like 270x it's GCN 1.0 card which doesn't support freesync
Firefly1
JimBobJr
This is essentially a R7 265 which goes head to head with a 750 Ti and im sure you can get 750Tis for the same price brand newAmazing deal, but yeah, not worth posting on its own. Crazy deal oO

Just how good value exactly is the r9 390x? As it's not really listed in 'New' by most companies.
I've effectively reserved that one :) Bit concerned about the "cosmetic damage to item".
Haven't upgraded for many years (Radeon 5870 series at the moment) but was waiting to buy something fast but also bang for my buck :)

For example, the 480s are around the £220-£240 mark Brand New. That item was "Used" so was it worth going for it? I have time to cancel so considering :)

EDIT: So my question I guess changes to - £185 for the Used R9 390x or £230 for a new 480?



The 390x runs insanely hot and is very loud, but it's still very capable.
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VTX Radeon R9 380X 4GB Graphics Card £136.61 + £5.41 del @ comwales

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Seems a decent price for a gpu that trades blows with a gtx 970 in some scenarios. Brand new gpu too! Gpu specs: Key features Graphics Engine R9 380X Video Memory 4GB GDDR5 Strea…
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Title needs updated to include Postage.
tahir_owen
Using common sense, if the 380 is about 5-10% faster than 960, then this 380x can't be too far off a 970? oO
No, there's a very big gap between the 960 and 970.

No need to use "common sense" when you can use facts and benchmarks! ;) The 970 is over 30% faster than the 380X at 1080P and 1440P, which is about the difference between 40-45FPS and 60FPS.

Edited By: BetaRomeo on Sep 08, 2016 11:22: Oops! Forgot to specify the "380X" in the second
Using common sense, if the 380 is about 5-10% faster than 960, then this 380x can't be too far off a 970? oO

Seems a great deal, this is much better than the lowly 460, but would recommend getting a 470 is you can spend a few bucks more.
It's a good price, if you can't fork out for the basic RX 470 @ £165. Though I would advise to go for the better RX470/480 or GTX1060, for the extra £30-£60
bobo53
The OP said: Seems a decent price for a gpu that trades blows with a gtx 970 in some scenarios
I say: Over 50% away from that
You're right, there's generally a big gap between them with the 970 way out in front.

The OP's also right, there are a couple of scenarios where the 380X does catch up to the 970. Hitman in DX12, for example, the 970 just barely noses ahead at 1080P, and then the 380X just about beats it at 1440P! Extremely rare scenarios, but they do exist.

So everybody's right! Hooray! We can all be friends! :)
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Sapphire RX 470 back in stock at new lowest price £164.99 overclockers

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Was at the higher price of 169.99 and out of stock for a while. Cheapest way to get 1080p ultra gaming and VR right now.
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keepitonthelow
I thought this was a good price the 480 is about £30 more and the 3gb 1060 £20 more. This card is ahead of both in frames for money.
Yeah it's a good price and card if you need something for 1080 resolution. At the end of the day, if you can play a game with the 1060 or the 480, you'll be able to play it with a 470 also. They'll all be obsolete at the same time in 3 years or whatever so buy and enjoy if this is in your budget.
I thought this was a good price the 480 is about £30 more and the 3gb 1060 £20 more. This card is ahead of both in frames for money.
Personally I would spend a bit more and get the 3gb 1060 version , it is a way better card , in this particular budget range , or a rx 480 4gb.
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SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 NITRO+ 8GB GDDR5 | 11260-07-20G | Novatech £249.98 (preorder)

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not really a deal but they have stock as of tomorrow. I ordered just now as been waiting a while to buy. upgrading from a 6870 so should see a small difference...
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For the same price, the 1060 beats the 480 in the majority of games. In the few DX12/Vulkan titles the 480 only beats the 1060 by the slightest of margins. All the while the 480 uses more power than the 1060 (150W vs 120W).

For me the 480 needs to be priced around (max) £200 for the 8GB card for it to be considered instead of the 1060. At this price it's going into the 1060 range so it's a no brainer which card to go for.
biggiep
I just don't think the 480 has the overall horsepower to need more than 4GB.
It's about as fast as the Nvidia 780 Ti, for which 3GB was enough at launch, but isn't always enough anymore.

I agree that with today's games, 4GB is enough, even on AMD cards.

But I'm not sure that it'll be enough throughout 2017, and for me, a £200+ graphics card shouldn't be hitting that limit a year later.

It's worth noting that simple FPS aggregates don't necessarily show the stuttering produced by VRAM thrashing. And it's also worth noting that AMD cards don't manage their memory quite as efficiently as Nvidia cards. In the ~£150 range, the 4GB 480 is a killer card, but perhaps doesn't have the legs to justify ~£200+.

Based on AMD's announcement, the 8GB 480 should be US$30 more than the 4GB 480, so we should have had £200 8GB 480s following that wonderful £174 debut for the 4GB card. Hopefully they're still incoming, but at least we've got the £230 6GB 1060 for now.

And just skip the 3GB 1060 until it's priced to compete with (or replace) the 950. ;)
Aretak
biggiep
I just don't think the 480 has the overall horsepower to need more than 4GB.
This line of thinking doesn't and never has made any sense. Turning up the texture setting in a game has essentially zero impact on performance as long as you have the VRAM to handle it. There are many games which can now use well over 4GB VRAM even at 1080p, and the fact is that you're going to need to bump the texture setting down a notch or two on a 4GB card. Mirror's Edge: Catalyst for example, with it's 'Hyper' texture setting is something that's out of reach of a 4GB card, yet an 8GB model could run it at the exact same settings, but with the higher quality textures too and see the same performance, but with better visual quality. Doom is another game with a higher quality setting ('Nightmare') that isn't even offered to people with <6GB VRAM, despite the fact that a 480 would run it on those settings perfectly at 1080/60.
Not to mention the fact that whilst you may be able to overclock the memory to match a stock 8GB model, you can overclock the 8GB card too, restoring the 1GHz clock speed advantage and further increasing memory bandwidth and performance. The 8GB models use chips rated for 8GHz in the first place, whilst the 4GB models have chips rated for 7GHz. You're never going to be able to overclock them enough to match the better binned ones overclock versus overclock.
Whether this is worth another £50 to you or not is something to decide for yourself, but there absolutely are benefits to the 8GB model, and to suggest otherwise is a tiny bit delusional.

But all the reviews I've read state that even when the VRAM used is over 4gb it doesn't impact the fps in a huge way, not to the tune of £60 in my eyes. Of course you need grunt of the card too, the amount of VRAM is not the be all and end all, not at 1080p which is what you'd realistically be buying this card for, don't believe the marketing hype. I'm pretty sure the hypertexture thing in Mirrors Edge has been smoothed out now so cards with less VRAM don't suffer that much.

But that's why we have choice so you can read your own reviews and draw your own conclusions but what I will say is this if you are expecting the 8gb to perform considerably better than the 4gb you'll be sadly disappointed.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-amd-radeon-rx-480-4gb-vs-8gb-review - "However, in the vast majority of scenarios, you're looking at only a one to four percent advantage by investing in the more expensive card."
I'm upgrading from a pretty dated card, I know it's not a hot deal, but I'm future proofing my graphics for another 3 years hopefully. I only play at 1080p but wouldn't mind a shot at the VR stuff down the line. Plus in 3 years I can crossfire/sli if I need too. Time will tell whether the expense was worth it.
biggiep
I just don't think the 480 has the overall horsepower to need more than 4GB.
This line of thinking doesn't and never has made any sense. Turning up the texture setting in a game has essentially zero impact on performance as long as you have the VRAM to handle it. There are many games which can now use well over 4GB VRAM even at 1080p, and the fact is that you're going to need to bump the texture setting down a notch or two on a 4GB card. Mirror's Edge: Catalyst for example, with it's 'Hyper' texture setting is something that's out of reach of a 4GB card, yet an 8GB model could run it at the exact same settings, but with the higher quality textures too and see the same performance, but with better visual quality. Doom is another game with a higher quality setting ('Nightmare') that isn't even offered to people with <6GB VRAM, despite the fact that a 480 would run it on those settings perfectly at 1080/60.

Not to mention the fact that whilst you may be able to overclock the memory to match a stock 8GB model, you can overclock the 8GB card too, restoring the 1GHz clock speed advantage and further increasing memory bandwidth and performance. The 8GB models use chips rated for 8GHz in the first place, whilst the 4GB models have chips rated for 7GHz. You're never going to be able to overclock them enough to match the better binned ones overclock versus overclock.

Whether this is worth another £50 to you or not is something to decide for yourself, but there absolutely are benefits to the 8GB model, and to suggest otherwise is a tiny bit delusional.
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Sapphire Radeon RX 460 2GB AMD Graphics Card £101.48 @ Scan

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There's plenty of deals lately for high end graphics cards so here's one for us poor folk. Performance against the GTX 950 is arguable on both sides but it is NEWER and CHEAPER. Sure, save up more
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Now £99.98
Mrdom
It needs dedicated decoding hardware built in (as all graphics cards have these days for h264 video). At the moment the lowest end graphics cards that can do it are this and maybe the gtx 950 I'm not 100% on that. There are others with partial hardware decoding (meaning it still takes some CPU processing power as well, or that they can do 8 bit but not 10 bit decoding). It's also supported by the built in graphics on some newer processors.
Alternatively a reasonably powerful processor like an Intel quad core can do it fully via software but thats dependant on resolution/bitrate (so a low end processor might manage 720p but not 1080p, and high bitrate 4k video would take quite a strong processor to decode smoothly and use a lot of power doing it. That's a bit vague because I haven't tested it extensively.

Thanks
It needs dedicated decoding hardware built in (as all graphics cards have these days for h264 video). At the moment the lowest end graphics cards that can do it are this and maybe the gtx 950 I'm not 100% on that. There are others with partial hardware decoding (meaning it still takes some CPU processing power as well, or that they can do 8 bit but not 10 bit decoding). It's also supported by the built in graphics on some newer processors.

Alternatively a reasonably powerful processor like an Intel quad core can do it fully via software but thats dependant on resolution/bitrate (so a low end processor might manage 720p but not 1080p, and high bitrate 4k video would take quite a strong processor to decode smoothly and use a lot of power doing it. That's a bit vague because I haven't tested it extensively.

bigbloke
Mrdom
that can properly handle h265 video.
What is actually needed to do this?
Thanks
globula_neagra
54M13
How does this compare to a sapphire r9 270x toxic edition?
I picked one up for £70 at cex, wondering if I got a deal
​yours is better
Awesome, thanks! Kinda new to this
Mrdom
that can properly handle h265 video.

What is actually needed to do this?

Thanks
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Sapphire Radeon RX 480 Nitro+ 4GB - £198.99 @ Ebuyer

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Couldn't find it cheaper anywhere else.
Muffinss Avatar1m, 5d agoFound 1 month, 5 days ago77 Comments
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Just reading that most 4gb cards are actually 8GB and locked off in the bios, which is easily unlocked, so buying 4gb.....is actually buying 8gb, bonus
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derp1664
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derp1664
Gkains
derp1664
AMD sucks. Nvidia sucks.
Both faceless greedy corporation.
However, while that is true, one of them is greedier and lives by the adage 'business is war'.
Consumers may not care but a company which plays so aggressively is hardly the consumers friend as witnessed by how poorly their cards age (planned obsolescence? poor reading of how the industry is going?), or how they react when something goes wrong (the solder defects which affected millions of parts in the 8800GT era).
So you think AMD are only in business from the good of their hearts? If AMD had monstrous market share you think they wouldn't be complacent with their morals? Right now they can't afford to be, both figuratively and literally.
Kind of missing the point. It's not so black and white and AMD are definitely more consumer friendly than Nvidia even when there's no obvious benefit to them, e.g. open source drivers.
Conjecture. Nobody knows what a successful AMD would be like because AMD are not successful. :{
Not the point. AMD's "morals" only buys them goodwill and goodwill means basically jack amongst consumers. For every AMD fanboy who responded to the open source drivers there are 100 Nvidia fanboys who respond to their endless advertising. My point is it's irrelevant to their success whether AMD keeps doing nice stuff. Whether AMD will continue doing it if they become Nvidia level successful is a red herring.

Ah okay, so what you're saying is AMD are not very good at business. Thanks that's much clearer now I understand.



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derp1664
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derp1664
Gkains
derp1664
AMD sucks. Nvidia sucks.
Both faceless greedy corporation.
However, while that is true, one of them is greedier and lives by the adage 'business is war'.
Consumers may not care but a company which plays so aggressively is hardly the consumers friend as witnessed by how poorly their cards age (planned obsolescence? poor reading of how the industry is going?), or how they react when something goes wrong (the solder defects which affected millions of parts in the 8800GT era).
So you think AMD are only in business from the good of their hearts? If AMD had monstrous market share you think they wouldn't be complacent with their morals? Right now they can't afford to be, both figuratively and literally.
Kind of missing the point. It's not so black and white and AMD are definitely more consumer friendly than Nvidia even when there's no obvious benefit to them, e.g. open source drivers.
Conjecture. Nobody knows what a successful AMD would be like because AMD are not successful. :{

Not the point. AMD's "morals" only buys them goodwill and goodwill means basically jack amongst consumers. For every AMD fanboy who responded to the open source drivers there are 100 Nvidia fanboys who respond to their endless advertising. My point is it's irrelevant to their success whether AMD keeps doing nice stuff. Whether AMD will continue doing it if they become Nvidia level successful is a red herring.
ttttd
derp1664
Gkains
derp1664
AMD sucks. Nvidia sucks.
Both faceless greedy corporation.
However, while that is true, one of them is greedier and lives by the adage 'business is war'.
Consumers may not care but a company which plays so aggressively is hardly the consumers friend as witnessed by how poorly their cards age (planned obsolescence? poor reading of how the industry is going?), or how they react when something goes wrong (the solder defects which affected millions of parts in the 8800GT era).
So you think AMD are only in business from the good of their hearts? If AMD had monstrous market share you think they wouldn't be complacent with their morals? Right now they can't afford to be, both figuratively and literally.
Kind of missing the point. It's not so black and white and AMD are definitely more consumer friendly than Nvidia even when there's no obvious benefit to them, e.g. open source drivers.

Conjecture. Nobody knows what a successful AMD would be like because AMD are not successful. :{
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Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB £169.99 @ Amazon

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This performs better than the 1060 3GB especially in future proof apis. The 1060 3GB has 10% less cores than the 6GB version and half the VRAM. Novideo false advertising at its finest. Can't unde…
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well its £164.99 now, plus available in 3 days :)
Ferrari100
BetaRomeo
Ferrari100
Agharta
Ferrari100
Nvidia could possible get in trouble for false advertising yet again?
Why? If people are too lazy to check the specs of a card that is their fault.
Most people are not clued up enough to know what the difference is between a 1060 and a 1060.
It is actually quite a problem what Nvidia has created for themselves here.
Why did they not call the 970 a 980 then??
heck, why didn't AMD just call the 470 the 480??
I tell you why, because it is misleading to the majority of the general public.
Hey Ferrari100, welcome back again! :) Thank you for using your signature trademark to make it easy to recognise you.
I need some graphics card advice, and you're the best AMD shareholder for the job. I was thinking about picking up a Nvidia GTX 1070. Do you happen to know if AMD has anything competitive in the £300-999 market at the moment? :{
I'm sorry?
I wouldn't know - I was looking for a $200 GPU but now decided PC gaming isn't worth it and will put the money towards a PS Neo upgrade.
Pc gaming sucks. LOL
Awww, that's brilliant. It's lovely watching your acting skills at work! :D

Although you've unfortunately bumped into the exact wrong person to try this with. I do work as a literary analyst (which sometimes involves being called into court to testify as an expert about whether or not pieces of writing were written by a particular person (which sounds a lot more exciting than it is... and to be fair, most of my day-to-day work is simply translation. But I digress...)), and your three accounts all scream out as being by the same person.

It's wonderfully entertaining, as you're clearly trying to pretend to be someone else again - your last fake account described knowing someone very smart (an intended self-allusion, no doubt, although "allusion" probably isn't the best fit ;)), and this account is pretending to abandon PC gaming in favour of a PS4 Neo, but all three accounts are written in the exact same writing style, with the same English mistakes in spelling, punctuation and grammar, and the same pro-AMD anti-Nvidia theme. In fact, I'd be surprised if I'm the only one who sees it, professional or not. It sticks out horrendously!

And if there was any doubt - there isn't, but let's pretend there is - then there's a particular signature across most of your comments that no-one else at HUKD does, just to make it 100% clear that it's you again. (If anyone else sees it, please keep it quiet! While it's difficult to imagine him not knowing what it is, it's at least equally difficult to imagine him going ahead and doing it anyway while pretending to be someone else!)

But why bother with a new account? Your old account wasn't banned, was it? Was it that you imagined all of your pro-AMD anti-Nvidia sentiments lost weight after you shared the fact of your five-figure AMD investment? Because I can assure you that we take your technical perspective just as seriously now as we did before the reveal. ;)

Sorry for the off-topic, but it's a genuine pleasure to have had my profession come in handy on a bargain site for the first time ever! :{
BetaRomeo
epiphany1273
Agharta
epiphany1273
Nvidia could possible get in trouble for false advertising yet again?
Why? If people are too lazy to check the specs of a card that is their fault.
Most people are not clued up enough to know what the difference is between a 1060 and a 1060.
It is actually quite a problem what Nvidia has created for themselves here.
Why did they not call the 970 a 980 then??
heck, why didn't AMD just call the 470 the 480??
I tell you why, because it is misleading to the majority of the general public.
Hey Ferrari100, welcome back again! :) Thank you for using your signature trademark to make it easy to recognise you.

I need some graphics card advice, and you're the best AMD shareholder for the job. I was thinking about picking up a Nvidia GTX 1070. Do you happen to know if AMD has anything competitive in the £300-999 market at the moment? :{


I'm sorry?

I wouldn't know - I was looking for a $200 GPU but now decided PC gaming isn't worth it and will put the money towards a PS Neo upgrade.

Pc gaming sucks. LOL
Agharta
epiphany1273
Agharta
epiphany1273
Nvidia could possible get in trouble for false advertising yet again?
Why? If people are too lazy to check the specs of a card that is their fault.
Most people are not clued up enough to know what the difference is between a 1060 and a 1060.
It is actually quite a problem what Nvidia has created for themselves here.
Why did they not call the 970 a 980 then??
heck, why didn't AMD just call the 470 the 480??
I tell you why, because it is misleading to the majority of the general public.
AMD have two RX 480 cards with different RAM speeds and amounts.
I agree it's silly but they both are doing it. Caveat emptor.


However they are not different core counts which is the exact problem here.

Case in point, you never realised it.

I will stick with consoles. To much foul play in PC gaming.
catbeans
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calv1987
good card, great for 1080p gaming, should get a good 3yrs out of it. voted cold by accident. sorry
"should get a good 3 yrs out of it"
You're yucky enough to get a year out of it before DirectX 12 games start coming out.
>tfw AMD does better in DX12
topkek
Look out guys we got a meme lord.
DX12 IS immature, the drivers are immature, the game development for DX12 is immature.
So far we have one real Vulkan game which is the extremely well built and optimised Doom. It is too early to base your purchases based on API.
Funny 'cause more DirectX 12 is being adapted faster than any other previous DirectX API.
Is it? How's that?
It still doesn't stop it being an immature build, with immature drivers and games companies programming immaturely for it.
Immature drivers? You realise all the stuff that gives gains for DirectX 12 titles are on a physical hardware level?
For example (DX12 features):
- AMD has asynchronous compute engines, which is used through a hardware scheduler, can do Resource Binding, Tiled Resources Tier 2 and Typed UAV Loads, and that's physical. Nvidia cards can't do this on the hardware level, it's not possible without new hardware.
- Nvidia cards can do Conservative Rasterization and Rasterizer Ordered Views, AMD cards can't do this because it is yet again, another piece of hardware required on the video card.
Drivers won't improve anything, because DirectX 12 is different from previous DX API's because it's become low-level which gives more access to the hardware rather than being passed through the drivers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_levels_in_Direct3D
Yes but. Direct X will get updated they dont just release one version. Drivers effect the card as much if not more than how it interacts with the API. You just have to look at the mess the latest AMD drivers have been including DX12, or those DX12 games that the RX480 randomly runs terribly on.
Yes AMD Async hardware is great, it sucks that Nvidia missed out, but they do have some Async features like you said so at least its something and it was a trade off for other aspects of architecture, we will see what Nvidia can do with them (in future driver updates (_;) ) That is still one specific part of the cards architecture, game engines and DX12.
You just completely disregarded what I said.
A driver update won't add hardware which doesn't exist, because that's not possible.
You just have to look at the mess the latest AMD drivers have been including DX12
...what mess has AMD created with DX12 drivers? I have a Fury X, no problems here.
or those DX12 games that the RX480 randomly runs terribly on.
What DX12 games the RX 480 run terribly on?
AMD Async hardware is great, it sucks that Nvidia missed out, but they do have some Async features like you said so at least its something and it was a trade off for other aspects of architecture, we will see what Nvidia can do with them (in future driver updates (_;) ) That is still one specific part of the cards architecture, game engines and DX12.
Correction: Nvidia does NOT have any async features, their async-compute is being emulated on the CPU.
Nvidia never missed out on async-compute hardware, their Fermi processor had it, but it ran hotter than the sun and used too much power, so their hardware scheduler was removed (called GigaThread).
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good card, great for 1080p gaming, should get a good 3yrs out of it. voted cold by accident. sorry
"should get a good 3 yrs out of it"
You're lucky enough to get a year out of it before DirectX 12 games start coming out.
>tfw AMD does better in DX12
topkek
Look out guys we got a meme lord.
DX12 IS immature, the drivers are immature, the game development for DX12 is immature.
So far we have one real Vulkan game which is the extremely well built and optimised Doom. It is too early to base your purchases based on API.
Funny 'cause more DirectX 12 is being adapted faster than any other previous DirectX API.
Is it? How's that?
It still doesn't stop it being an immature build, with immature drivers and games companies programming immaturely for it.
Immature drivers? You realise all the stuff that gives gains for DirectX 12 titles are on a physical hardware level?
For example (DX12 features):
- AMD has asynchronous compute engines, which is used through a hardware scheduler, can do Resource Binding, Tiled Resources Tier 2 and Typed UAV Loads, and that's physical. Nvidia cards can't do this on the hardware level, it's not possible without new hardware.
- Nvidia cards can do Conservative Rasterization and Rasterizer Ordered Views, AMD cards can't do this because it is yet again, another piece of hardware required on the video card.
Drivers won't improve anything, because DirectX 12 is different from previous DX API's because it's become low-level which gives more access to the hardware rather than being passed through the drivers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_levels_in_Direct3D
Yes but. Direct X will get updated they dont just release one version. Drivers effect the card as much if not more than how it interacts with the API. You just have to look at the mess the latest AMD drivers have been including DX12, or those DX12 games that the RX480 randomly runs terribly on.
Yes AMD Async hardware is great, it sucks that Nvidia missed out, but they do have some Async features like you said so at least its something and it was a trade off for other aspects of architecture, we will see what Nvidia can do with them (in future driver updates (_;) ) That is still one specific part of the cards architecture, game engines and DX12.
You just completely disregarded what I said.
A driver update won't add hardware which doesn't exist, because that's not possible.
You just have to look at the mess the latest AMD drivers have been including DX12
...what mess has AMD created with DX12 drivers? I have a Fury X, no problems here.
or those DX12 games that the RX480 randomly runs terribly on.
What DX12 games the RX 480 run terribly on?
AMD Async hardware is great, it sucks that Nvidia missed out, but they do have some Async features like you said so at least its something and it was a trade off for other aspects of architecture, we will see what Nvidia can do with them (in future driver updates (_;) ) That is still one specific part of the cards architecture, game engines and DX12.
Correction: Nvidia does NOT have any async features, their async-compute is being emulated on the CPU.
Nvidia never missed out on async-compute hardware, their Fermi processor had it, but it ran hotter than the sun and used too much power, so their hardware scheduler was removed (called GigaThread).
No but Drivers , drive hardware so they can improve how hardware runs. You have stated yourself Nividia main Async feature is on the GPU, meaning drivers and updates can affect its Async, which is apparently currently disabled by drivers (though I may be behind).
If you have been following news, reviews and benchmarks, then you know what problems and games I am talking about, let's not play that game.
"Nvidia does NOT have any async features, their async-compute is being emulated on the CPU." So it does have Async it just doesn't have an Async schedular chip , or A sync shader chips.
Yes Nvidia missed the boat with Async, they had it on previous cards, but years ago. No one really expected Async to become a huge thing, it was pretty out of the blue last year when Pascal was already well into development and to design a chip (In this case a scheduler) takes too long, so this generation missed out.


I'm sure you know that Nvidia's latest cards have generally been more efficient than AMD, right?

Well the reason being is that in Maxwell, Nvidia gutted out their cards and removed all the hardware scheduling and double precision, which is the reason why a 580 is faster than a 980 at double precision.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph8526/67748.png

Now, the hardware scheduler includes asynchronous compute, so when they removed that, they increased their video card "efficiency" by removing hardware, because hardware requires power and generates heat

Unless Nvidia can do async-compute on a hardware level with Volta and still maintain their efficiency, I can't see it happening.

This is the reason why AMD's cards have always ran hotter and required more power, but it's also the reason why AMD cards are excellent at mining (Bitcoin, etc) and perform better in DX12.
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Sounds more like an anti-Nvidia rant than a hot deal. Just sayin'..........
It's been taken off the site:
'XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB GDDR5 HDMI 3x DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card' is discontinued; here are some similar products.
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Nate1492
I'm not sure if you could be a bigger AMD fanboy if you tried.
The title? Wow, 'stupid ass 1060'? What is that, third grade?
i de-americanized it for you
The title? Wow, 'stupid ass 1060'? What is that, third year?

Great minds think alike.
Nate1492
I'm not sure if you could be a bigger AMD fanboy if you tried.
The title? Wow, 'stupid ass 1060'? What is that, third grade?

'What is that, third grade?' - what is this, America?
Nate1492
I'm not sure if you could be a bigger AMD fanboy if you tried.
The title? Wow, 'stupid ass 1060'? What is that, third grade?
i de-americanized it for you
The title? Wow, 'stupid ass 1060'? What is that, third year?
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I Was the biggest nvidia fan have not long brought a R9 Fury got one from amazon warehouse box open return for £240 I have been lucky enough to test it against a GTX 980 and at 1440p the Fury won 90% of the time when both overclocked was a bit closer but the Fury was still faster. My fury runs at 1075 and memory at 525 could go a bit higher then this but happy with this.
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Muffinss
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ttttd

This has already been pointed out - the Fury drivers have drastically been improved since it was released. Your Fury benchmarks are release benchmarks. The performance difference is bigger now. We should compare what the 1060 is like in 2016 to what the Fury is like in 2016, not 2015.
Also not a single DX12 benchmark to be found.. ROTR doesn't count.
To quote myself, which you quoted:
For an arbitrary game at arbitrary FPS, a RX 480 might only be able to run it on High but have the textures on Ultra whereas the Fury may be able to run it on Ultra with the textures on High because it's simply a much better card at 1440p+. One of these options will look better than the other.
Replace RX 480 with 1060 and it's still mostly valid. At DX11 the difference is small but at DX12 it's a lot bigger.
Even at DX11, the £290 price point is not too bad. 10% better than a 1060 for about 15% of a price increase. Weigh that against the DX12 boost and you have a viable option...
It's absolutely not 10% better. You keep pretending like these reviews exist showing the Fury has gained performance.
Did you read the 'test setup' page? https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/7.html
Every card was tested. Every. Card. The Fury was tested against that same setup, with AMD: Crimson 16.4.2 Beta drivers!
So, no, I reject your argument that this was 'release day drivers' with simple 'test setup' page.
Repeating myself... The difference between Overclocking is nearly exactly 10% in favor of the 1060, so at 1440p, the 1060 draws even. At 1080p, the 1060 draws 10% ahead.
15% price increase? 228 versus 289. Again, simple math proves that to be incorrect.
That's 126.7% more! 26.7% increase in cost for *no* increase in performance.
​nate the fury is at least 10% better in dx11 and like 25% in dx12 and vulkan
Got a link to back that up? Because I can't find anything that suggests that. Sounds like you are pulling numbers out of thin air. I've provided links that contradict that in dx11. Specifically, 1080p, latest drivers, the 1060 is dead center tied before OC.

I'm still waiting for you to back up your initial claim of it being better than an R9 Fury...Still waiting on your facts.

Rise of the Tomb Raider isn't a direct X 12 title. Devs patched it to work alongside DX12..Devs patch notes atually say this!!

Ashes is purposesly built for DX12 and uses low level API..Basically how DX12 should be. AMD will obviously be better on this because AMD's drivers have been more focused on DX12 for atleast past 3 years.

You're digging yourself deeper into a hole lad.

Concede that a Fury is a more powerful card at higher resolutions, concede that Fury can overclock too, Concede that by overclocking a 1060/480 will use more power, eat your humble pie and move on.
epiphany1273
I signed up just to post this for people who might be looking for a genuine analysis including this graphics card taken from here:http://www.pcgamer.com/radeon-rx-480-review/
Nate,
Why such hate for AMD?
I have just trawled few a few of your comments and you are extremely Nvidia biased.
Do you work for Nvidia?http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/K7dStKj69am7zs63jC8V4g-650-80.png
A 1060 is essentially getting worse results than a 980.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal,review-33613-3.html
Nate works for novideo lmao
Nate1492
ttttd

I'm not going to compare the best R9 Fury with the worst 1060 (Zotac Mini. EVGA is good but must be preordered last I checked). In stock 1060s range around £260. Despite the TDP the Nitro Fury is one of the coolest and quietest cards out there.
Again you're selectively reading my posts, namely:
DX12
DX12
DX12
And DX12.
(and Vulkan)
This is where 10% to Fury comes from. When you account for everything. Not just the games that TPU cherry picked. That site has a known bias towards Nvidia.
Yes the 1060 at least matches the Fury in DX11. But there's more to DX11 now. I'm at work so I won't find you benchmarks to disprove your overall figure but if you care about the truth you'll look for them yourself.
But you are ignoring games where NVIDIA do better anyway.
You said 'Ahh, but ROTR doesn't count!'.
Should we look at AoTS only? You seem to be choosing what is considered "Cherry picking" and what is not.
Should we include Hitman? AOTS? ROTR?
There really isn't that many games to choose from, and excluding ROTR, a mass market game, and including AOTS, a game that is essentially a glorified AMD benchmark, seems odd too, doesn't it?

I don't want to count ROTR as DX12 because it's a DX11 core in a DX12 wrapper. I have no problem including it with other DX11 games though.

AOTS isn't biased towards AMD. You just don't like it because AMD does better in it. AOTS is simply pure DX12 not only in what API it uses but how it's written. There's no specific reason not to include it except that you don't like the results. There hasn't been an under the table handshake between the devs and AMD like Nvidia has done with loads of games.

Hitman is another outlier but even being biased to AMD, AMD still shows more gains in DX12 than Nvidia does. So there's still something legitimate to take away from it.

Contextualize.
I signed up just to post this for people who might be looking for a genuine analysis including this graphics card taken from here:http://www.pcgamer.com/radeon-rx-480-review/


Nate,
Why such hate for AMD?
I have just trawled few a few of your comments and you are extremely Nvidia biased.
Do you work for Nvidia?

http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/K7dStKj69am7zs63jC8V4g-650-80.png



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AMD urgh
M0nk3h
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terrible CPU and the GPU isn't good for modern games, you can easily get a better core i5 desktop around this price or less

Incorrect. The APUs aren't that bad of an iGPU. You can easily play BF4 with alright settings using the iGPU. But I have the agree, you're going to be looking at getting a dedicated GPU at some point.

Besides which I managed to build a (what was their flagship APU at the time) A10 7870k build for £200 with a Thermaltake cube case and stuck a 7850 in there I had lying about.


​dont get me wrong it's a good all rounder cpu when you pay an appropriate price for it but for nearly £400 you can get an i5 PC and upgrade the GPU later
jayd95
terrible CPU and the GPU isn't good for modern games, you can easily get a better core i5 desktop around this price or less

Incorrect. The APUs aren't that bad of an iGPU. You can easily play BF4 with alright settings using the iGPU. But I have the agree, you're going to be looking at getting a dedicated GPU at some point.

Besides which I managed to build a (what was their flagship APU at the time) A10 7870k build for £200 with a Thermaltake cube case and stuck a 7850 in there I had lying about.
LordAlu
catbeans
Edit; same PC different RAM £100 cheaper, CCL have jammed in RAM they themselves are selling for £61 and charging £100.
The cost difference looks about right. The CCL one is £100 more and has a slightly better motherboard, more and faster memory (which would help with APU graphics) and has Windows 10 included too. Let's say £5 extra for the board, £15-20 for the RAM and £75-£80 for Windows 10 and there's the price difference.
That said, as a gaming PC it will be lacklustre. Anything modern would have to be run at 720p on low-medium - this is only really good for something like League of Legends or Dota. If you could stretch further you could probably get an i3 and GTX 750Ti/950 for under £400 which would play games decently.

I didn't look at the mobo or OS my bad.

Though it probably has an OEM key that CCL could get for ~£10
catbeans
Edit; same PC different RAM £100 cheaper, CCL have jammed in RAM they themselves are selling for £61 and charging £100.

The cost difference looks about right. The CCL one is £100 more and has a slightly better motherboard, more and faster memory (which would help with APU graphics) and has Windows 10 included too. Let's say £5 extra for the board, £15-20 for the RAM and £75-£80 for Windows 10 and there's the price difference.

That said, as a gaming PC it will be lacklustre. Anything modern would have to be run at 720p on low-medium - this is only really good for something like League of Legends or Dota. If you could stretch further you could probably get an i3 and GTX 750Ti/950 for under £400 which would play games decently.

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What is pretty annoying with this card is that all through pre order it has had free postage. The moment it comes into stock they smack a tenner postage on it, pretty crappy of them really.
Yeah, I think it stinks. When you are paying this kind of money for the product itself I'm sure they could cover the postage. Like any company they will have deals with at least one if not multiple couriers to get lower rates so the postage won't cost them £10, probably not even £5.
Very high price anyway IMHO for a graphics card that started out as a budget solution, which has now risen to more expensive than the GTX1060. I know it's a special edition and all but still utter price gouging....
​the minimum carriage charged in the UK is actually around 9 pounds with most couriers, anything under this is a discount from the seller

That clearly can't be true


​it is actually, different parts of the cost are absorbed by different businesses, but couriers end up with 9 pounds per parcel.
jackcrack
ST3123
LazybeatX
What is pretty annoying with this card is that all through pre order it has had free postage. The moment it comes into stock they smack a tenner postage on it, pretty crappy of them really.
Yeah, I think it stinks. When you are paying this kind of money for the product itself I'm sure they could cover the postage. Like any company they will have deals with at least one if not multiple couriers to get lower rates so the postage won't cost them £10, probably not even £5.
Very high price anyway IMHO for a graphics card that started out as a budget solution, which has now risen to more expensive than the GTX1060. I know it's a special edition and all but still utter price gouging....
​the minimum carriage charged in the UK is actually around 9 pounds with most couriers, anything under this is a discount from the seller

That clearly can't be true
​Surely they get heavy discounts with companies that they send hundreds of packages with each day.
ST3123
LazybeatX
What is pretty annoying with this card is that all through pre order it has had free postage. The moment it comes into stock they smack a tenner postage on it, pretty crappy of them really.

Yeah, I think it stinks. When you are paying this kind of money for the product itself I'm sure they could cover the postage. Like any company they will have deals with at least one if not multiple couriers to get lower rates so the postage won't cost them £10, probably not even £5.

Very high price anyway IMHO for a graphics card that started out as a budget solution, which has now risen to more expensive than the GTX1060. I know it's a special edition and all but still utter price gouging....


​the minimum carriage charged in the UK is actually around 9 pounds with most couriers, anything under this is a discount from the seller
I have the 480 nitro from sapphire. it's nice
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In need of some advice please. First this (deal) card is £105 at https://www.cclonline.com/product/213909/11257-00-20G/Graphics-Cards/Sapphire-Radeon-RX-460-2GB-Graphics-Card/VGA3573/?gclid=CL30n5e3ys4CFSoW0wodzdIGAQ

I need a 2GB card to play Deus Ex Mankind Divided. My PC is old (e.g. Radeon R7 200 1Gb) but played (new) Doom acceptably. Mankind min specs are a step up. (6GB memory requirement etc).
So I'm looking at the £100 price point for a new GPU. This card may be the basis of a new (budget) gaming machine but in the first instance its to play Mankind...
How does this card compare please (in general terms)
2GB GeForce GTX 750 TI Superclocked
https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B00IDG3IDO/
or this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-1020MHz-1085MHz-5400MHz-Graphics/dp/B00IDG3PRI/

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It is a great deal, some people have no idea or think they know it all, heat.
Why is this cold? Seems a good deal. 460 has great performance for the price in DX12/Vulkan titles and the card will improve with drivers. I would recommend no-one to buy a GTX 950 right now as its now firmly a legacy card from Nvidia.
uranidiot
950 way better performance in all games not even close, the 460 should never have been released pointless card and a daft price point, heres that overclockers link https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2-geforce-gtx-950-oc-2048mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-093-kf.html


​instead of linking benchmarks to prove your point you link that?

if you hadn't heard, asynchronous compute>950.

also I just looked up benchmarks just now and they trade blows in dx11.

damn too many novideo fanboys around here.
just to recap, this will rape a 950 in newer APIs.
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950 way better performance in all games not even close, the 460 should never have been released pointless card and a daft price point, heres that overclockers link https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2-geforce-gtx-950-oc-2048mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-093-kf.html
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Looks like an amazing card, seems to be only 2 - 4 frames behind the Rx 480 8gb at 1080p according to digital foundry. I may get this over the Rx 480.
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Think I'll give PC gaming a miss for another generation. AMDs proper cards no where in sight, and judging by current performance im not holding my breath, nvidia 1060 overpriced by at least £50 and the 1070 £100, the new Intel chips is devils canyon with a fancy name, basically the same chip they designed 5 years ago. I'm desperately hoping the new AMD chips will be their new athlon, but I fear that them being distracted by supplying console manufacturers and playing catch-up with the GPU market means it will be too little too late, even if their fancy presentations show a huge improvement.
What are you willing to pay for the 1060?
The 960 launched at £159, taking in to account exchange rate I'd pay around £175 for a 6gb card. Wouldn't pay £250 for an entry level card, no effing way.

So, the 1060 is a way better card than the 960. Let's just understand that right away.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_960_STRIX_OC/

The 960 launched at $200.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_960_STRIX_OC/29.html

And was 50% behind. It also was behind a number of AMD budget cards and most importantly, it was 10% behind the 770.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/26.html

The 1060 came out ahead of the 980 and the Fury.

The only cards better than the 1060 at launch time were the Fury X, 980ti, 1070, and 1080.

That's really good value.

Also, you can pick it up for around 230 quid.

The 1060 3gb is floating at 190.

Just because the name is similar to the 960, the name doesn't mean it's the same card line. This is way more horsepower than the 960 offered.
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jaydeeuk1
Think I'll give PC gaming a miss for another generation. AMDs proper cards no where in sight, and judging by current performance im not holding my breath, nvidia 1060 overpriced by at least £50 and the 1070 £100, the new Intel chips is devils canyon with a fancy name, basically the same chip they designed 5 years ago. I'm desperately hoping the new AMD chips will be their new athlon, but I fear that them being distracted by supplying console manufacturers and playing catch-up with the GPU market means it will be too little too late, even if their fancy presentations show a huge improvement.
What are you willing to pay for the 1060?
The 960 launched at £159, taking in to account exchange rate I'd pay around £175 for a 6gb card. Wouldn't pay £250 for an entry level card, no effing way.
jaydeeuk1
Think I'll give PC gaming a miss for another generation. AMDs proper cards no where in sight, and judging by current performance im not holding my breath, nvidia 1060 overpriced by at least £50 and the 1070 £100, the new Intel chips is devils canyon with a fancy name, basically the same chip they designed 5 years ago. I'm desperately hoping the new AMD chips will be their new athlon, but I fear that them being distracted by supplying console manufacturers and playing catch-up with the GPU market means it will be too little too late, even if their fancy presentations show a huge improvement.

What are you willing to pay for the 1060?
Is this a featured deal or something? It keeps reappearing.
Agharta
LazybeatX
Looks like an amazing card, seems to be only 2 - 4 frames behind the Rx 480 8gb at 1080p according to digital foundry.
480 8GB is 21% faster at stock than this at 1080P on average:https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/24.htmlhttps://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

Digital Foundry does point out that the card it had for review was the MSI model which does have a nice factory OC on it.
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Ebuyer just sent me an email saying the order will not be fulfilled as it was discontinued. Waste of time.
Just saw this shame it's now out of stock =/
These are just getting cheaper again because the release rush is over and the wave of aftermarket cooling is hitting.
robodan918
183GBP = 240USD? (i.e. $199 promised price tag + VAT)
Damn brexit really killed affordability

Its done that to everything, inc petrol.
It'd be well worth paying another £17 for the Sapphire Nitro version from Scan or OcUK over this.

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Perspective, go check benchs for 290 reference (or 390 and minus 5%), versus Fury Nitro.

In most titles you're talking 10-30fps. That's the difference between playing a game within freesync range at high resolutions, or not, including 4k.

Right now I'm on 1080p but am looking for a 1440p freesync monitor which will effectively buy me another 2 years of gaming - for £150/£180 upgrade cost, that's decent value in my eyes.

DX12/Vulkan should give it a bump further and with Vega rumoured to be using HBM2 I'm hoping that further driver optimisation in favour of the crazy bus capacity will again shove it in the back.

Other reasons are the 290 hits 95 deg (which it's designed to do), blower is loud, uses more electricity... Nitro runs -96mv at a slight OC happily, room is cooler, GPU and VRM is nice and cool, happy days!

Nvidia (how are your shares?), I'd want need to spend more on the card for a top tier one, a premium on g-sync and still get worse DX12/Vulkan performance. Only real benefit is the greater power efficiency. Pointless.

1070 would be a better card, but more than I'm willing to spend given monitor refresh, lack of stock and ludicrous pricing.
The_Hoff
Ordered one today, here tomorrow.
If anybody is after a R9 290 drop me a PM. Great for mining/gaming.

The 290, compared to the Fury, is not that far off.

You're going to pull a 20-30% gain tops for a 299.99 card?

Looks like the 290 is going fro about 150 quid, if you're lucky.

Also, a 200 or 182 quid amd 480 that isn't on pre-order for next century? You should post it on hot uk deals. People would be interested.
Ordered one today, here tomorrow.

If anybody is after a R9 290 drop me a PM. Great for mining/gaming.
​Cool thanks for the update. At the moment I'm using a R9 280 and it's great at 2560x1080 but on a 3440x1440 monitor you can notice the upscale in games like rise of the tomb raider. In optimised games like gta v I'm getting an average of 50 fps at 3440x1440 with everything on high except grass. Similar situation in payday 2, wwe 2k16 (60 fps), fifa 15 battlefield 4 and a few others.

The GTX 1070 is a beast at 3440x1440 from the benchmarks I've seen. Getting 60 FPS in latest games with high settings and average 45 fps on ultra or maximum settings in games like witcher 3.

Currently you can get one for £379 as mentioned before but only thing concerning me is how the drivers will mature in the future like 4 years down the line. Nvidia track record with the 780ti is a great example.

Where as AMD GPUs from older generations are still great performers. Problem is AMD haven't given a answer to the GTX 1070 but a RX 490 listed was leaked. I'm hoping it's not a dual GPU as crossfire support is terrible.
TapMyButtons
millar5002
I have not used a 1060 and never used a fury but I did have 970 strix overclocked (faster than a stock 1060) and currently use a Fury X (a little faster than a Fury) and can say for sure the 970 comes nowhere near the performance of the Fury x at high res (I game 3440x1440).
So I imagine the same will apply for 1060 v Fury.
If you want to play dx11 games at 1080p for the next couple of years then you may as well get a 1060. Otherwise you would be crazy not to go for the fury for only a little more. For a decent 1060 your looking around £280.
​What games do you play at 3440x1440 and what's your average fps? I've considered the R9 fury x many times for ultrawide 1440p but it's cheaper to get the palit game rock gtx 1070 which is currently £379.

I get a locked 60 fps on probably 95% of games I play at the minute but only because I lower graphics settings if need be to achieve a 60fps lock with no or minimal dips. Realistically if you want to play real graphic intensive games maxed out on ultra at 3440x1440 you need 2 Fury X's in crossfire but I find games still look great at this res with 1 Fury X even with slightly lowered settings.

Recent games I have been playing...

Battlefield 1 beta (high preset) 60fps

Doom (high preset) 60fps

GTA V (mixture of medium and ultra) 60 fps

Metro 2033 (mixture of medium and ultra) 60 fps

Project Cars (mixture of low and high) 55 - 60 fps but looks worse because of some dodgy frame times since the VR update.

ROTR (bad performance no matter what unless I turn off shadows, can only recommend 1080p Ultra with this card unfortunately)

Total War Warhammer (mixture of medium and high) 60fps during battles, 45 - 55 fps during campaign map.

Witcher 3 (mix of medium and ultra) 60fps

Compared to the 970 strix, that card could not even run 2560x1080 decently. Not used a 1070 yet and no idea of its performance at 1440p ultrawide but at that price its definitely worth a look if your OK with Nvidia's extreme planned obsolescence business model.
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I find it funny that people went from a simple tech discussion on a deal to being embroiled in deep political discussion XD. Anyway I think overclockers prices won't be as good so I'm waiting till Novatech and eBuyer come out with some prices on this :)
Mine just got dispatched (4GB version)
Will wait for the price to drop below £200 with free game.
Here we go, review in german of the 4gb and 8gb model. They oc'd the 4gig model to 1415mhz, not too shabby

https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-oc-test/3/#diagramm-call-of-duty-black-ops-iii-1920-1080
Agharta
bigbloke
Let's agree to disagree because irrespective of the oil futures fluctuation, the massive drop in the value of the currency effects the price of EVERYTHING.
I didn't see that we had been disagreeing as I was just pointing out that oil and other traded commodities are more complex with regard pricing fluctuations. RAM is also a traded commodity which is why its pricing fluctuates in ways that most other PC components don't.
But I do now disagree when you say that EVERYTHING is now affected by the value of the pound dropping as it doesn't necessarily impact goods which aren't imported.

But goods are also exported.

Of course the value of the pound versus the dollar impacts all pricing.

The price of delivering goods goes up, the price to purchase imported goods goes up, if your item has ANY gas involved in manufacture (plastic) transport (oil) or pretty much anything... It will absolutely be impacted by the value of the pound.

It may be a smaller impact, but certainly an impact.
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God or the devil? :p

http://www.techspot.com/review/1209-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060/page10.html
Food for thought.


Edited By: 7_of_nine on Jul 22, 2016 07:18
This is God telling you to buy a 1060.
Would'nt be surprised to see some of the ref cards drop a little as the aibs should hit next week.

Got my eye on the Nitro which ocuk have got for pre order at £200 and £250 respectively.

Unless you've bit already its worth waiting an extra week as they should be a vast improvement on these 1st rev ref cards.
They have one if you buy direct but £222 + postage so probably an error:
https://www.lambda-tek.com/Sapphire-21260-00-20G~sh/C-B3292129
There is one available at that price, but it keeps getting added then removed quickly and it won't let you add it to your basket.https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13730772_630585103783462_2522523284933869759_o.jpg

Edited By: GonzoFK on Jul 21, 2016 14:25
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A lot of complaints on release that 4GB VRAM wouldn't be enough, especially for new games/4K wouldn't be enough and would cause hitching and other performance issues. whether it is via HBM or superior compression the 4GB fury do not seem to suffer as you would expect.
There is often a sense of hysteria around RAM sizes with graphics cards.
As long as the amount of RAM matches the performance level of the GPU I don't see an issue.
The Fury was never gonna run demanding games at 4K with very high settings so 4GB is fine.


​problem being is some newer games can consume over 4GB even at 1080p!
This is back instock now so needs unexpiring
alexrose1uk
A lot of complaints on release that 4GB VRAM wouldn't be enough, especially for new games/4K wouldn't be enough and would cause hitching and other performance issues. whether it is via HBM or superior compression the 4GB fury do not seem to suffer as you would expect.
There is often a sense of hysteria around RAM sizes with graphics cards.
As long as the amount of RAM matches the performance level of the GPU I don't see an issue.
The Fury was never gonna run demanding games at 4K with very high settings so 4GB is fine.
A lot of complaints on release that 4GB VRAM wouldn't be enough, especially for new games/4K wouldn't be enough and would cause hitching and other performance issues. whether it is via HBM or superior compression the 4GB fury do not seem to suffer as you would expect.
powerbrick
Agharta
alexrose1uk
By all accounts the Nitro boards have a redesigned PCB rather than reference and thus overclock more than usual 10-15% not being unrealistic. That in itself makes it worth considering. I myself am waiting to check the custom 480s as the 1060s performance isn't as hot in DX12 as AMD at a similar cost, and if throttling is resolved with an extra 10-20% performance on top those custom 480s could be substantially nippier than reference.
Definitely makes sense to wait for the custom RX 480 boards as the reference design is pants.
Here's a review of the Sapphire/R9_Fury_Tri-X_OC which doesn't have much O/C headroom but maybe this model is better!https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_Fury_Tri-X_OC/33.html
but there are no AIB boards....oh stock where art thou?
Is there an official date for release? They are missing the boat with the 1060 now available for the same price as a reference 480 8GB.

AIB = add-in-board so they are all AIBs just that the custom AIBs are MIA.
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Lucifer_UK

you sound like a fanboy with a flacid argument.... Do you work for Nvidia or something. Ha!

That's your reply? Instead of any thought, you just blindly throw out "oh you must be a fanboy shill, haha!!111!!one".

Guess you aren't worth the effort of an adult conversation.
Nate1492
Lucifer_UK
Nate1492
Lucifer_UK
OnlyJoeKing
Graham1979
Genuinely better?
​I have a Sapphire R390 Nitro OC edition, and have just bought another to crossfire for about this price. It's a really nice card.
If I was buying new though, I'd buy an RX480. It runs cooler, uses much less power, and as a newer architecture there are probably other advantages I haven't fully grasped. The performance difference really isn't enough to warrant getting the older card imo. Plus we should see reviews for custom RX480's soon and I wouldn't be surprised if they close the gap.
480 was a rushed card because Vega is not ready.
Vega will be the ultimate card.
Recent history... Is not on your side.
AMD have not released a 'killer' card since the 290x.
oh i disagree.... you could argue that at the point of sale their last 'killer' card was the 7990 as at the point of release it was the best pound/performance card of its kind. yes it was far superceeded by the nvidia ti but that nvidia was not there at release of the the 7990
The 480 already hits the performance mark at its price point but is and has always been a filler card for the vega which is next due. And due to the architecture change in the vega, that is set to be the next killer card with HBM 2 which will surely be beaten by the Nvidia 1080ti and next titanesque.... But thus we delve into the murky world of GPU's and their marketing strategies even further....
I flit between them both.... but Nvidia dont give a hoot about their customers - there is a reason why AMD resides in both the xbox 1 and PS4... and that is bang 4 buck, not gloryhole sales.
I'm sorry, but what? The 7990 was not a 'killer card' in any sense of the word.
The reason AMD 'resides' in the xbox 1 and PS4 is because NVIDIA didn't want that low value contract. The margins were very slim. http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/150892-nvidia-gave-amd-ps4-because-console-margins-are-terrible
I just don't see how you can make the assumption the Vega will be a showstopper. AMD haven't released a card that has lived up to it's hype in a VERY long time.
At least since the 290x.
The 3xx series was hugely disappointing, the 480 was a flop out the game, and the Fury/Fury X have been an afterthought.
Also, the 7990 was released April 2013, the 290x was released October 2013.
Even if we agreed the 7990 was even a 'good' card, it doesn't change what I said. (It's really not).


you sound like a fanboy with a flacid argument.... Do you work for Nvidia or something. Ha!
Lucifer_UK
Nate1492
Lucifer_UK
OnlyJoeKing
Graham1979
Genuinely better?
​I have a Sapphire R390 Nitro OC edition, and have just bought another to crossfire for about this price. It's a really nice card.
If I was buying new though, I'd buy an RX480. It runs cooler, uses much less power, and as a newer architecture there are probably other advantages I haven't fully grasped. The performance difference really isn't enough to warrant getting the older card imo. Plus we should see reviews for custom RX480's soon and I wouldn't be surprised if they close the gap.
480 was a rushed card because Vega is not ready.
Vega will be the ultimate card.
Recent history... Is not on your side.
AMD have not released a 'killer' card since the 290x.
oh i disagree.... you could argue that at the point of sale their last 'killer' card was the 7990 as at the point of release it was the best pound/performance card of its kind. yes it was far superceeded by the nvidia ti but that nvidia was not there at release of the the 7990
The 480 already hits the performance mark at its price point but is and has always been a filler card for the vega which is next due. And due to the architecture change in the vega, that is set to be the next killer card with HBM 2 which will surely be beaten by the Nvidia 1080ti and next titanesque.... But thus we delve into the murky world of GPU's and their marketing strategies even further....
I flit between them both.... but Nvidia dont give a hoot about their customers - there is a reason why AMD resides in both the xbox 1 and PS4... and that is bang 4 buck, not gloryhole sales.

I'm sorry, but what? The 7990 was not a 'killer card' in any sense of the word.

The reason AMD 'resides' in the xbox 1 and PS4 is because NVIDIA didn't want that low value contract. The margins were very slim.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/150892-nvidia-gave-amd-ps4-because-console-margins-are-terrible

I just don't see how you can make the assumption the Vega will be a showstopper. AMD haven't released a card that has lived up to it's hype in a VERY long time.

At least since the 290x.

The 3xx series was hugely disappointing, the 480 was a flop out the game, and the Fury/Fury X have been an afterthought.

Also, the 7990 was released April 2013, the 290x was released October 2013.

Even if we agreed the 7990 was even a 'good' card, it doesn't change what I said. (It's really not).
Lucifer_UK
Nate1492
Lucifer_UK
OnlyJoeKing
Graham1979
Genuinely better?
​I have a Sapphire R390 Nitro OC edition, and have just bought another to crossfire for about this price. It's a really nice card.
If I was buying new though, I'd buy an RX480. It runs cooler, uses much less power, and as a newer architecture there are probably other advantages I haven't fully grasped. The performance difference really isn't enough to warrant getting the older card imo. Plus we should see reviews for custom RX480's soon and I wouldn't be surprised if they close the gap.
480 was a rushed card because Vega is not ready.
Vega will be the ultimate card.
Recent history... Is not on your side.
AMD have not released a 'killer' card since the 290x.
oh i disagree.... you could argue that at the point of sale their last 'killer' card was the 7990 as at the point of release it was the best pound/performance card of its kind. yes it was far superceeded by the nvidia ti but that nvidia was not there at release of the the 7990
The 480 already hits the performance mark at its price point but is and has always been a filler card for the vega which is next due. And due to the architecture change in the vega, that is set to be the next killer card with HBM 2 which will surely be beaten by the Nvidia 1080ti and next titanesque.... But thus we delve into the murky world of GPU's and their marketing strategies even further....
I flit between them both.... but Nvidia dont give a hoot about their customers - there is a reason why AMD resides in both the xbox 1 and PS4... and that is bang 4 buck, not gloryhole sales.

Did you just say the 7990 was a killer card? :D
Nate1492
Lucifer_UK
OnlyJoeKing
Graham1979
Genuinely better?
​I have a Sapphire R390 Nitro OC edition, and have just bought another to crossfire for about this price. It's a really nice card.
If I was buying new though, I'd buy an RX480. It runs cooler, uses much less power, and as a newer architecture there are probably other advantages I haven't fully grasped. The performance difference really isn't enough to warrant getting the older card imo. Plus we should see reviews for custom RX480's soon and I wouldn't be surprised if they close the gap.
480 was a rushed card because Vega is not ready.
Vega will be the ultimate card.
Recent history... Is not on your side.
AMD have not released a 'killer' card since the 290x.


oh i disagree.... you could argue that at the point of sale their last 'killer' card was the 7990 as at the point of release it was the best pound/performance card of its kind. yes it was far superceeded by the nvidia ti but that nvidia was not there at release of the the 7990

The 480 already hits the performance mark at its price point but is and has always been a filler card for the vega which is next due. And due to the architecture change in the vega, that is set to be the next killer card with HBM 2 which will surely be beaten by the Nvidia 1080ti and next titanesque.... But thus we delve into the murky world of GPU's and their marketing strategies even further....

I flit between them both.... but Nvidia dont give a hoot about their customers - there is a reason why AMD resides in both the xbox 1 and PS4... and that is bang 4 buck, not gloryhole sales.
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I'm sure all these cards will be just fine, i have a 770 which according to the charts on this thread is crap but seems to run fine to me. Maybe because i play the games rather than hunching over frame rate charts
Nate1492
vmistery

The chance of a 1060 even the 3gb variety if it materialises being that price for the foreseeable future is around 0. Personally I suspect the 1060 6gb will be around £260 for the non founders edition cards at least for a few months judging by the inflated prices of the 1070/80. My guess is the 480 to fall to about £170 for the 8gb version once the 1060 is around in better numbers. But as we don't know anything about it other than Nvidia marketing like your comment mines all guesswork! As for he 970 being better than the 480 I haven't seen real evidence of that, it seems to vary depending on what game and what resolution. I'd be looking at how they compare in the games I play rather than basing it off a few that reviewers play.

The 970 isn't better than the 480. It is on par, around the same performance.

I don't get why you think the 1060 6gb will be £260 while the 480 will be £170. They are priced as such in the states: $249 and $239 MSRP.

Also, why the doubt on the 1060 3gb? There is other cards at that price point that NVIDIA want to compete with, so why wouldn't they release it?


Have a look at the recommended pricing for the 1070 and what it's currently available for, that's why I think it will be more. I also agree, the 970 and 480 are approximately the same but perform differently in different titles. Nvidia have a better reputation than AMD so I suspect the 480 will have to lower in price soon. I doubt the 3gb card will be released for ages as there are reports of tons of 970s hanging around.
vmistery

The chance of a 1060 even the 3gb variety if it materialises being that price for the foreseeable future is around 0. Personally I suspect the 1060 6gb will be around £260 for the non founders edition cards at least for a few months judging by the inflated prices of the 1070/80. My guess is the 480 to fall to about £170 for the 8gb version once the 1060 is around in better numbers. But as we don't know anything about it other than Nvidia marketing like your comment mines all guesswork! As for he 970 being better than the 480 I haven't seen real evidence of that, it seems to vary depending on what game and what resolution. I'd be looking at how they compare in the games I play rather than basing it off a few that reviewers play.

The 970 isn't better than the 480. It is on par, around the same performance.

I don't get why you think the 1060 6gb will be £260 while the 480 will be £170. They are priced as such in the states: $249 and $239 MSRP.

Also, why the doubt on the 1060 3gb? There is other cards at that price point that NVIDIA want to compete with, so why wouldn't they release it?
Nate1492
Chaz_UK

There's nothing shady about progress is there? And yes, I will be first to admit AMD's performance on DX11 and OpenGL vs Nvidia's offerings was lacking in some titels, not so much in others, but.....http://i.imgur.com/mRihbwa.png
http://i.imgur.com/UFzw0bA.pngI'm not going to completely steal the guys hard work so here is the full video, please to give it a watch to support the creator:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOaHpZjQ73M
We're in a time where all major consoles, and their upcoming revisions (The XBOX One, PS4 and the Nitnendo NX as well as the PC & even Android) will no doubt be taking advantage of the newer rendering technologies bought either with DX12 or Vulkan, and to see older cards performing within a the realms of the current high end stuff in newer titles is something that does excite me, being someone here on a deals site that likes to get as much for his £ as possible, this has me hoping that all consumers will be given the option of buying cheaper and better performing hardware across the board, no matter who the creator is (AMD, Nvidia, Matrox, S3, 3Dfx, PowerVR.... :p ).
I'm here to save money on my purchases, not argue over older DX11 and OpenGL titles so I'm bowing out now. No more shade from me, I promise.

All those charts show is that AMD had terrible open GL performance. I don't see your point at all. The 970, 980, 390, and 480 have all danced around each other in benchmarks. This is nothing new here.

In Open GL, the 480 was losing by over 12 FPS to the 970, in any other benchmark I've seen, the 970 and the 480 were neck and neck.

I don't see how this is a 'good thing' for AMD, they are just showing how terrible they were at Open GL. Repeatedly.

There are plenty of Open GL games out there still.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OpenGL_programs

If you are happy with that set of games being absolute pants on your 'good value card' and happy that you can *never* switch to Linux with your 'good value card' then more power to you.

But as a consumer, when I see this card priced at 221.99 and I see 970 below that price, and the 980 approaching it... With the 1060 6GB to be the same price and the 1060 3GB to be as low as 140 quid, as a consumer, it's an easy choice.


The chance of a 1060 even the 3gb variety if it materialises being that price for the foreseeable future is around 0. Personally I suspect the 1060 6gb will be around £260 for the non founders edition cards at least for a few months judging by the inflated prices of the 1070/80. My guess is the 480 to fall to about £170 for the 8gb version once the 1060 is around in better numbers. But as we don't know anything about it other than Nvidia marketing like your comment mines all guesswork! As for he 970 being better than the 480 I haven't seen real evidence of that, it seems to vary depending on what game and what resolution. I'd be looking at how they compare in the games I play rather than basing it off a few that reviewers play.
Chaz_UK

There's nothing shady about progress is there? And yes, I will be first to admit AMD's performance on DX11 and OpenGL vs Nvidia's offerings was lacking in some titels, not so much in others, but.....http://i.imgur.com/mRihbwa.png
http://i.imgur.com/UFzw0bA.pngI'm not going to completely steal the guys hard work so here is the full video, please to give it a watch to support the creator:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOaHpZjQ73M
We're in a time where all major consoles, and their upcoming revisions (The XBOX One, PS4 and the Nitnendo NX as well as the PC & even Android) will no doubt be taking advantage of the newer rendering technologies bought either with DX12 or Vulkan, and to see older cards performing within a the realms of the current high end stuff in newer titles is something that does excite me, being someone here on a deals site that likes to get as much for his £ as possible, this has me hoping that all consumers will be given the option of buying cheaper and better performing hardware across the board, no matter who the creator is (AMD, Nvidia, Matrox, S3, 3Dfx, PowerVR.... :p ).
I'm here to save money on my purchases, not argue over older DX11 and OpenGL titles so I'm bowing out now. No more shade from me, I promise.

All those charts show is that AMD had terrible open GL performance. I don't see your point at all. The 970, 980, 390, and 480 have all danced around each other in benchmarks. This is nothing new here.

In Open GL, the 480 was losing by over 12 FPS to the 970, in any other benchmark I've seen, the 970 and the 480 were neck and neck.

I don't see how this is a 'good thing' for AMD, they are just showing how terrible they were at Open GL. Repeatedly.

There are plenty of Open GL games out there still.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OpenGL_programs

If you are happy with that set of games being absolute pants on your 'good value card' and happy that you can *never* switch to Linux with your 'good value card' then more power to you.

But as a consumer, when I see this card priced at 221.99 and I see 970 below that price, and the 980 approaching it... With the 1060 6GB to be the same price and the 1060 3GB to be as low as 140 quid, as a consumer, it's an easy choice.
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pukenukem
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pukenukem
got a GTX 1060 instead. I'm expecting a mild improvement over my 650 1GB.
Surely you jest? oO
Welcome to GPU power!

I do indeed jest. :) I'm expecting great things!! I've even bought a nice shiny new monitor, as you can't really have a nice shiny new card without that..can you? The wife will agree I'm sure. :)


​If she agrees it's only because she's probably having an affair! ;)
Martyn334
Wouldn't recommend AMD to anyone..


​I wouldn't recommend your advice to anyone.. ;)
MBeeching
pukenukem
got a GTX 1060 instead. I'm expecting a mild improvement over my 650 1GB.
Surely you jest? oO
Welcome to GPU power!

I do indeed jest. :) I'm expecting great things!! I've even bought a nice shiny new monitor, as you can't really have a nice shiny new card without that..can you? The wife will agree I'm sure. :)
Martyn334
Wouldn't recommend AMD to anyone..

I wouldn't recommend you to anyone. Anyone want a Martyn334? No one? Come on? Top troll on AMD deals, OK second rate troll? Still no one? Ah well shame, free with a packet of Walkers? Really? You're a tough crowd.
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Martyn334
Wouldn't recommend AMD to anyone..
Care to elaborate? Is it the fact that they are cheaper?
I am running an Fx 8320 and an RX480 and am very happy.
1920 x1080 60+fps ultra settings.
Let's stop the fanboy nonsense.
1080p is soooooo last century.
Upgrade your resolution to minimum 2.4k pelase
2.4k is so last year darling. Join the 4k party.

screw 4k lets go 16k and be done with.

Live in the future.
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you can flash the xfx 'core' 4gb directly with the xfx 'black' bios - no special cooling required

stable, higher than stock core and 8gb@ 2K for 174 quid
markpomeroy
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Mine arrived today and it has 8GB on it!https://s32.postimg.org/5uktsfr79/IMG_2069.jpg
Tried flashing it yet?
Nope not yet. I'm going to wait until I really need the extra RAM.

It should also increase the speed on the memory.
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markpomeroy
Mine arrived today and it has 8GB on it!https://s32.postimg.org/5uktsfr79/IMG_2069.jpg
Tried flashing it yet?

Nope not yet. I'm going to wait until I really need the extra RAM.
markpomeroy
Mine arrived today and it has 8GB on it!https://s32.postimg.org/5uktsfr79/IMG_2069.jpg
Tried flashing it yet?
Mine arrived today and it has 8GB on it!
https://s32.postimg.org/5uktsfr79/IMG_2069.jpg
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The AMD R9 RX-480 is one of the best upgrades to be released ever for gaming! Featuring the latest Polaris GPU with 2304 stream processors and 8GB of 8000MHz GDDR5 memory this small and low power card…
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But... but... it's $200 in the US?!
$229 for 8GB version but still should equal £170.
It should be £204 after tax.
Plus import duty and delivery.
I think everyone is forgetting OCUK also charges a tenner delivery :p Pretty much bang on what we should be paying.
Brocily
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cannibalwombat
But... but... it's $200 in the US?!
$229 for 8GB version but still should equal £170.
It should be £204 after tax.

Plus import duty and delivery.
MrCollective
Rhythmeister
I don't understand why ALL the RX 480 cards are being voted cold oO

Because they are not deals, they are normal pricing.


​They're only on the market so they've never been any other price oO
Better off waiting for aftermarket variants. Someone apparently strapped a H100i to one and managed an overclock just under 1500mhz, but still said it was limited by the 6 pin connector.
miaomiaobaubau
in violation of specifications, looks like they can be considered all faulty, possibly banned too as it might affect the motherboard: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qfwd4/rx480_fails_pcie_specification/

A lot of cards violate the specifications, doesn't mean the motherboard will blow up. The GTX 960 had the same problem as well, haven't heard of any motherboards being destroyed because of it.
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FireBIade200
From what I've seen in reviews, 1 of these cards is approx 1070 spec but the idea is you buy 2 and corssfire (because they are cheap) and get near 1080 performance for about £200 less.
I think you mean around one card is around 970 spec, the 1070 is significantly faster. Not knocking it mind, still a good card and one I might well get when the price comes down to £150ish...
My bad it's not 1070 spec, cross fired they trump a 1070 and get very close to 1080 speeds. I think it's cheaper to get a single 1070 but you would be slightly slower. Decisions decisions..
I think you seen too much you tube trolling,lol. Just go for a reliable good that never lets you down,Nvidia

The irony is strong with this one.
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FireBIade200
From what I've seen in reviews, 1 of these cards is approx 1070 spec but the idea is you buy 2 and corssfire (because they are cheap) and get near 1080 performance for about £200 less.
I think you mean around one card is around 970 spec, the 1070 is significantly faster. Not knocking it mind, still a good card and one I might well get when the price comes down to £150ish...
My bad it's not 1070 spec, cross fired they trump a 1070 and get very close to 1080 speeds. I think it's cheaper to get a single 1070 but you would be slightly slower. Decisions decisions..
I think you seen too much you tube trolling,lol. Just go for a reliable good that never lets you down,Nvidia
ST3123
FireBIade200
From what I've seen in reviews, 1 of these cards is approx 1070 spec but the idea is you buy 2 and corssfire (because they are cheap) and get near 1080 performance for about £200 less.
I think you mean around one card is around 970 spec, the 1070 is significantly faster. Not knocking it mind, still a good card and one I might well get when the price comes down to £150ish...

My bad it's not 1070 spec, cross fired they trump a 1070 and get very close to 1080 speeds. I think it's cheaper to get a single 1070 but you would be slightly slower. Decisions decisions..
FireBIade200
From what I've seen in reviews, 1 of these cards is approx 1070 spec but the idea is you buy 2 and corssfire (because they are cheap) and get near 1080 performance for about £200 less.

I think you mean around one card is around 970 spec, the 1070 is significantly faster. Not knocking it mind, still a good card and one I might well get when the price comes down to £150ish...
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XFX Radeon R9 390X DD Black Edition OC Graphics Card (8 GB, GDDR5) £259.99 @ Amazon

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Price brand new at Amazon. Very good price, the standard edition sells for £309! Out of stock just now but available to order. Great for VR! 1090Mhz Core Clock 6000MHz Memory Speed 8GB / 512-b…
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> twice the performance isn't enough to justify it? Damn! :D
To be fair (and talking about CPUs more than GPUs), 'back when I was we lad, I would' only upgrade if I could get over twice the performance. And that was without paying a premium ([email protected] > [email protected], [email protected], Core2 Celeron and Pentiums all @ 50-100% overclock etc. It's just the recent slowdown which has lowered people's expectations. So while AMD's RX 480 price looks good (or conversely Nvidia are getting away with robbery) in years gone bye greater leaps in £/perf were the norm almost every 1-2 years.

Correct, but you don't have to go that far back. They also used to release new GPU's on a 6 month cycle.
wozukSilencer
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Hmm, those benchmarks are good for the money but not enough to justify an upgrade from my 7870 yet. Better to hang around until later in year and wait for 1070 to drop or try and get a 980 when the price there really starts getting hit
> twice the performance isn't enough to justify it? Damn! :D
What Gains said. Cards at 970 level are 2 "gens" higher than my ropey old one but FWIW I'm still running stuff like Witcher 3 and GTAV at 1440p/60 at a comfortably "high" level. I've been eyeing up new cards but for the upgrade to be worth it I was looking for at least a 980 or above.
So whilst 480 looks like it'll be very good VFM, I was hoping for parity with 980 rather than 970.
I think the rx460 might be double the performance of my gtx550ti so I'm getting a massive upgrade if I go 480 maybe even 470 , if I had a 970 i'd probably wait for the next batch with high bandwith though

Ayy a fellow GTX550Ti owner, had it since 2011 so an upgrade is way overdue if I do say so myself.
Got a Sapphire 390x, great card for 1080p gaming with all the bells and whistles on. Bit of unknown how 480 will compare price wise but would be a good bet for smaller systems where power / heat are important.

Main thing is that the £ has tanked and very soon components will get a bit more expensive for us if it does not recover.
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Hmm, those benchmarks are good for the money but not enough to justify an upgrade from my 7870 yet. Better to hang around until later in year and wait for 1070 to drop or try and get a 980 when the price there really starts getting hit
> twice the performance isn't enough to justify it? Damn! :D
What Gains said. Cards at 970 level are 2 "gens" higher than my ropey old one but FWIW I'm still running stuff like Witcher 3 and GTAV at 1440p/60 at a comfortably "high" level. I've been eyeing up new cards but for the upgrade to be worth it I was looking for at least a 980 or above.
So whilst 480 looks like it'll be very good VFM, I was hoping for parity with 980 rather than 970.
I think the rx460 might be double the performance of my gtx550ti so I'm getting a massive upgrade if I go 480 maybe even 470 , if I had a 970 i'd probably wait for the next batch with high bandwith though
My 7850 is on its way out, the 480 looks like a good replacement to me. If I got a 390X I may need a new PSU.
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AMD XFX RADEON R9 390X 8GB GDDR5 £220.00 @ PC Specialist Ebay

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Good price for the 390X, much lower cost than any other 390x card available About £45-60 cheaper than anywhere else. Free delivery. How is this cold when its by far the lowest price available…
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good for anyone going to do crossfire too.
so there is a 390 which is 215 and hot but a 390x at 220 isnt???? ok
williampriv
Some people may want to build now, not everyone has an unlimited summer break.
that would be a distress purchase and only a bargain to a few.
williampriv
The type of people who voted this cold are the guys who think they'll be bagging themselves an RX 480 for £160, a direct currency convert from $200. In reality, an 8gb aib aftermarket card will cost around £240 after tax, especially as the £ depreciates due to brexit.
Yes, an RX 480 will have less tdp and perform around the same as an r9 390x, but it's confirmed that only reference cards will be available on the 29th. Some people may want to build now, not everyone has an unlimited summer break.

Give me a break. It's 5 days.

Pun intended.
The type of people who voted this cold are the guys who think they'll be bagging themselves an RX 480 for £160, a direct currency convert from $200. In reality, an 8gb aib aftermarket card will cost around £240 after tax, especially as the £ depreciates due to brexit.

Yes, an RX 480 will have less tdp and perform around the same as an r9 390x, but it's confirmed that only reference cards will be available on the 29th. Some people may want to build now, not everyone has an unlimited summer break.

Edited By: williampriv on Jun 24, 2016 22:53
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HP ENVY 15-AH151SA 15.6" AMD A10 Windows 10 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Laptop + AMD Radeon R6 Graphics Card- Silver £280.00 @ SVP

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Seem like a really good price. These HP Laptops are ( Cabinet Display ) Ex Demo units from a major retailer and in immaculate ( A+ Grade ) like new condition with no signs of use.There maybe a VERY…
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I heard display is awful & eager out on these laptops, any owners care to comment? Buying for wife, ages a teacher. so a bit of work on MS word etc, browsing and Netflix!
I have one of these, I thought the screen was quite good but I was coming from a lenovo x201. The screen is nice if you only view it head on but because it isn't IPS it does wash out quickly but not the worst I have used. Not the best buy for netflix for multiple viewers at once. I also bought mine from Svp with no problems.


​thanks for getting back, appreciate it!
zoso1313
I heard display is awful & eager out on these laptops, any owners care to comment? Buying for wife, ages a teacher. so a bit of work on MS word etc, browsing and Netflix!
I have one of these, I thought the screen was quite good but I was coming from a lenovo x201. The screen is nice if you only view it head on but because it isn't IPS it does wash out quickly but not the worst I have used. Not the best buy for netflix for multiple viewers at once. I also bought mine from Svp with no problems.

Edited By: titan131 on Jun 23, 2016 15:18
uk trust pilot rating 3.3 out of 10 for Svp!
washed out I meant!
I heard display is awful & eager out on these laptops, any owners care to comment? Buying for wife, ages a teacher. so a bit of work on MS word etc, browsing and Netflix!
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unless ive misread the HP website they state it has only got 10 usb ports
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Chidmas
It's amazing what you can do with some YouTube and a brain


You could not build this computer to its specs including an operating system for much cheaper than £799. You'd still be spending £700+ and end up with less USB sockets and a worse case


​if you look below someone has built a very similar system for less. Now stop crying like a girl it's making me uncomfortable


Why do you keep coming back to my post? You are literally going out of your way to check all the comments lol. You know full well that person's build does not include all the components of the pc in my post and uses a pretty awful case. Everyone knows including myself that my post is not the most amazing pc deal ever, but for someone looking for a pc of those specs that can't be bothered to build it themselves it's a decent price. I'm not going to argue with you any more...your previous defensive and aggressive reply says everything about you as a person.
koimaster
Chidmas
It's amazing what you can do with some YouTube and a brain


You could not build this computer to its specs including an operating system for much cheaper than £799. You'd still be spending £700+ and end up with less USB sockets and a worse case


​if you look below someone has built a very similar system for less. Now stop crying like a girl it's making me uncomfortable
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Chidmas
It's amazing what you can do with some YouTube and a brain


You could not build this computer to its specs including an operating system for much cheaper than £799. You'd still be spending £700+ and end up with less USB sockets and a worse case


​Hahahahaha USB ports that's your argument. Silly seasons started in here. It isn't an amazing deal and the look of the case is subjective.
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Something I put together in a few minutes. Does not have 12 USB ports. But I rather save over £150 and have 6 USB ports.https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/ocelot20/saved/#view=n43V3C
For the OS simply buy that Windows 10 key for £10 that is on the front page.

Add £35 and get the Asus Z170 pro gaming motherboard which has up to16 USB ports.
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Gigabyte AMD R9 390 G1 Gaming Graphics Card (8 GB, SOC, PCI-E) @ Amazon @ £215.99

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Been looking at falling prices and think this is quite good price for the G1 card. Obviously theres the new rx480 coming but who cant wait or dont want to its great card for the money.
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FYI ALL...

The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 is expected to be announced the 7th July (Next Thursday) event with retail availability a week later on 13th July....

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1060-special-launch-event-july/
RX480 UK Prices found >

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/94049-xfx-rx-480-radeon-graphics-cards-listed-amazon-uk/

I checked and they're unavailable, but they're close to what we thought the price would be, unlike the Nvidia cards.
DON'T buy ANYTHING until the 29th June. The cheaper and faster RX480 is about to be released. They're saying between £140-£199 for close to or faster than GTX 980 performance.
Bang for buck is pointing to the rx480 shame thier is no 490
rev6
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pci-express 4 coming by the end of 2017. So, no worth buying anything at all. Use what you got and prices will come down a lot if they do not sell
Does PCI-E 3.0 x16 bottleneck any GPU?
correct, this is why I am still on the pci1 4x, difference with pci3 16x is minimal https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X_PCI-Express_Scaling/8.html
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Here's some evidence against what they said...

Nate1491

There is no evidence outside of a few comments in random fanboy laden threads that actually suggest Maxwell and Kepler have aged badly.

Your statement is not backed by facts or reviews, find the evidence to support your bold statement.

Right, the evidence is pretty easy to find.
First of all, unlike Babeltech I am not talking about performance regression. That is, a game which used to have this speed but now runs slower. No I am talking about newer games.
For ease I am going to use figures from TechPowerUp but really any site which does an average score in their reviews (TechPowerUp.com, ComputerBase.de, Hardware.fr, Ocaholic.it, HT4U.net etc.) could be used.
Now the overall score is the average from their game test suite and this does of course change all the time. (It would a poor site which only used 10 year old games for their reviews.) But since I am not interested in regression but rather how well a given card performs with current games this is exactly what I need.
Also, cards get re-branded and old cards get dropped from TPU’s test suite. Therefore some of these scores are based on ‘similar’ cards. The GTX 680 in the original reviews becomes the GTX770 in the latest reviews. Similarly the HD 7970 becomes the R9-280X, and the HD 7870 becomes the R9-270X. The R9-290X is still in the current suite no there was no need to use the R9-390X. However, while the cards mentioned are mostly re-brands, clock speeds and especially memory clocks do change. So the comparison between THEN and NOW are not 100% perfect, but unless I were to posses all these cards myself and run the tests myself this is as good as this can be. Finally, for some reason in some of the older TPU reviews W1zzard did not use 1080P but rather 1200P so I had to use that. Aside from that everything is for 1080P.
Now on to the comparisons. I will provide links but only the charts from the first one as otherwise this post will get too big.
Let’s start off with the GTX 680 (nee GTX 770) and the HD 7970 (nee R9-280X). The first chart is from TPU’s GTX 680 review (Link):
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_680/images/perfrel_1920.gif
The second is from TPU’s GTX 1080 review (Link):
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png
So the first has the GTX680 ahead of the HD 7970 by 8%. The second has the R9-280X ahead by 17%.
Similarly, from the above the GTX 680 was 30% faster than the HD 7870, while the GTX 770 is only 6% faster than the R9-270X.
Similar figures are to be found with the GTX 780 and GTX 780 Ti. The GTX 780 Ti review (Link) had the GTX 780 Ti ahead of the R9-290X running in über mode (the noisy fan setting) by 9%, and the GTX 780 behind the R9-290X by 7%.
In the GTX 1080 review (link above), the R9-290X is now 4% faster than the GTX 780 Ti and it’s lead over the R9-290X has increased from 7% to 21%.
Finally, in TPU’s review of the GTX 970 (Link*), the GTX 970 was 3% faster than the R9-290X, while in the GTX 1080 review the R9-290X is now ahead by 2%.
* GTX 970 numbers are from the EVGA review as W1zzard didn't do one with the reference one, but he did list a generic GTX 970 at 95% (compared the to EVGA one) so I used that.

As for why there are no articles about this: well one theory is that the press (and especially the English speaking press) is either lazy, incompetent, or doesn’t want to bite the hand which feeds it. That’s why Computerbase.de and hardware.fr are so good sites. For instance, as soon as Turbo and Boost made an appearance on GPUs ComputerBase started testing inside cases and warming up those cases. As with temperature based turbo, a card could easily run a 1-5 min benchmark at a speed it cannot sustain.




Edited By: Gkains on Jun 08, 2016 20:40
That Babeltech review is interesting but I was not taking about performance regression.
Rather I was going on about performance in current titles. It's not like Nvidia are purposefully crippling their cards, it's just that they've aged badly.
Don't have time right now, but will post some figures later.
The methodology is to look at the relative performance in a site like Tech power up then and now.

Edited By: Gkains on Jun 08, 2016 20:34: Typos from posting on phone.
Danze1984

*Due to past form with both Kepler and Maxwell ageing very badly it's worth pointing out that as more and more DX12 games come out, these ration may change. Kepler GTX680 was faster than 7970 when it came out but isb now around 30% slower (plus 3GB vs 2GB is going to last longer anyhow) and around the same speed as 7870. The same with the 780 Ti & 780 vs Hawaii. And the GTX 970 has been falling behind in recent games too.
Guess if you are sitting on 70-80% of the GPU card business (but then AMD is 100% of the current consoles) a company *might* start thinking of planning some obsolescence. Or their architecture just aged poorly.
There is no evidence outside of a few comments in random fanboy laden threads that actually suggest Maxwell and Kepler have aged badly.
Your statement is not backed by facts or reviews, find the evidence to support your bold statement.
I've found evidence of the contrary already, but I feel it is your duty to find proper evidence, full stop, before we continue.

Here's some evidence against what they said

http://www.babeltechreviews.com/nvidia-forgotten-kepler-gtx-780-ti-vs-290x-revisited/view-all/
Danze1984

*Due to past form with both Kepler and Maxwell ageing very badly it's worth pointing out that as more and more DX12 games come out, these ration may change. Kepler GTX680 was faster than 7970 when it came out but isb now around 30% slower (plus 3GB vs 2GB is going to last longer anyhow) and around the same speed as 7870. The same with the 780 Ti & 780 vs Hawaii. And the GTX 970 has been falling behind in recent games too.
Guess if you are sitting on 70-80% of the GPU card business (but then AMD is 100% of the current consoles) a company *might* start thinking of planning some obsolescence. Or their architecture just aged poorly.

There is no evidence outside of a few comments in random fanboy laden threads that actually suggest Maxwell and Kepler have aged badly.

Your statement is not backed by facts or reviews, find the evidence to support your bold statement.

I've found evidence of the contrary already, but I feel it is your duty to find proper evidence, full stop, before we continue.
The RX480 isn't the true competitor to the 1070, the unnanounced RX490 will be. Lisa Su mentioned $100 to $300 price range, RX480 is in the middle and RX490 $299. Yes is speculation but it adds up.
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back in stock June 4th I think they said
They just cancelled my order last time it said it was in stock.
Seems like a cheap way to advertise the website, cheaper than pay per click!
None in stock so cold!
not being in stock doesn't make it a bad deal!

It does if you can't actually purchase it!

Edited By: jamesakabob on May 30, 2016 20:14
Out of stock, I posted it couple of days ago
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HP ENVY 15-ah150sa 15.6" Laptop AMD A10-8700P 8GB Ram 2TB HD AMD Radeon R6 (Certified Refurbished) £349.99 @ Amazon

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The price is good but it's a refurbished machine with sub par parts. Sometimes you need to spend a little more to get a good deal.
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I have this. No issues what so ever.
A perfect laptop for basic computing needs, photo editing (1080p screen), Internet usage, word processing etc.
I'm sure it's not a high spec laptop for gaming but I really don't care as I don't do that, so don't need it.
How is the fan noise? Some reviews on the internet point that fan keeps running sometime even when idle?
Also, if you can shed some light on the very different hinge, is it fine when used on a lap, or when you are using it in bed??



Fan noise isn't so bad, also you can switch it off on boot options. Hinge never bothered me so far either.
I have this. No issues what so ever.
A perfect laptop for basic computing needs, photo editing (1080p screen), Internet usage, word processing etc.
I'm sure it's not a high spec laptop for gaming but I really don't care as I don't do that, so don't need it.
How is the fan noise? Some reviews on the internet point that fan keeps running sometime even when idle?
Also, if you can shed some light on the very different hinge, is it fine when used on a lap, or when you are using it in bed??
I have this. No issues what so ever.

A perfect laptop for basic computing needs, photo editing (1080p screen), Internet usage, word processing etc.

I'm sure it's not a high spec laptop for gaming but I really don't care as I don't do that, so don't need it.
hp+envy+amd that worst combination ever , no wonder they getting bad reviews for this money y can get way better laptop
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HP Pavilion 15-ab128na Black Edition Laptop, 6GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 1080p Screen, Radeon R7 M360 with 2Gb RAM £429.00 @ HP Store

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Another good laptop from HP in my opinion. I believe this can be upgraded to 16GB of RAM too. 4% Quidco. Technical details Supported Operating Systems Operating system Windows 10 Home 64 P…
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Can't find this on the site. Anybody got a working link?
It's now £379' anyone got one ?
Mines just arrived. Fairly decent build quality as far as i can tell, all plastic construction though (top is brushed aluminium effect). None of the CPU Temp apps seem to detect the CPU so not sure how hot it's running. Heres a crystal disk mark run for anyone wanting to see the performance of the M.2 SSD. It's nice to have the extra screen space with the higher resolution but it's a bit washed out (As expected from what i assume is a TN panel). I've used the wireless with no issues. Comes with the usual HP bloatware but easy to get rid of. £10 cashback tracked straight away on quidco and can claim a free game with the laptop too (i got Dirt Rally, can't remember what the others were)
Try HWInfo for CPU temps. It's pretty reliable.
Yeah HWInfo seems to detect it! I'd already tried Core Temp, Real Temp, MWMonitor, open hardware monitor with none of them showing.
If HWInfo is correct, it was idling at 23c and maxxed out at 46c after 15 mins of Prime95.
How loud are the fans under normal usage?
I've got mine here but not opened it yet as waiting to receive another laptop ive bought which ill probably have instead
Dead silent. Fan didn't even kick in after 15 mins of Prime95

From the silly comments others have said I was expecting it to be super loud!
Mines just arrived. Fairly decent build quality as far as i can tell, all plastic construction though (top is brushed aluminium effect). None of the CPU Temp apps seem to detect the CPU so not sure how hot it's running. Heres a crystal disk mark run for anyone wanting to see the performance of the M.2 SSD. It's nice to have the extra screen space with the higher resolution but it's a bit washed out (As expected from what i assume is a TN panel). I've used the wireless with no issues. Comes with the usual HP bloatware but easy to get rid of. £10 cashback tracked straight away on quidco and can claim a free game with the laptop too (i got Dirt Rally, can't remember what the others were)
Try HWInfo for CPU temps. It's pretty reliable.
Yeah HWInfo seems to detect it! I'd already tried Core Temp, Real Temp, MWMonitor, open hardware monitor with none of them showing.
If HWInfo is correct, it was idling at 23c and maxxed out at 46c after 15 mins of Prime95.
How loud are the fans under normal usage?
I've got mine here but not opened it yet as waiting to receive another laptop ive bought which ill probably have instead

Dead silent. Fan didn't even kick in after 15 mins of Prime95
Mines just arrived. Fairly decent build quality as far as i can tell, all plastic construction though (top is brushed aluminium effect). None of the CPU Temp apps seem to detect the CPU so not sure how hot it's running. Heres a crystal disk mark run for anyone wanting to see the performance of the M.2 SSD. It's nice to have the extra screen space with the higher resolution but it's a bit washed out (As expected from what i assume is a TN panel). I've used the wireless with no issues. Comes with the usual HP bloatware but easy to get rid of. £10 cashback tracked straight away on quidco and can claim a free game with the laptop too (i got Dirt Rally, can't remember what the others were)
Try HWInfo for CPU temps. It's pretty reliable.
Yeah HWInfo seems to detect it! I'd already tried Core Temp, Real Temp, MWMonitor, open hardware monitor with none of them showing.
If HWInfo is correct, it was idling at 23c and maxxed out at 46c after 15 mins of Prime95.

How loud are the fans under normal usage?

I've got mine here but not opened it yet as waiting to receive another laptop ive bought which ill probably have instead