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Ryzen 7 1700 £289.99 Amazon (1-4 weeks)

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Dropped 10 pound!! amazing price for this 8 core 16 thread monster. Read More
Dropped 10 pound!! amazing price for this 8 core 16 thread monster.
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The 1700 comes with a very good stock cooler.
I'm aware. But many will want to use a premium air cooler or AIO liquid cooler to push for a higher OC/lower temps to unlock more performance from the chip to enhance it's overall value proposition.

Then you'll be aware there's plenty of Corsair AIO that work just fine, NZXT is the same. Noctua have had brackets since release.

If your want to use an existing cooler you may need to consider that, but if you're buying new it's not an issue.
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The 1700 comes with a very good stock cooler.

I'm aware. But many will want to use a premium air cooler or AIO liquid cooler to push for a higher OC/lower temps to unlock more performance from the chip to enhance it's overall value proposition.
adderrson
I do want to upgrade to Ryzen (upgrading my haswell rig to a 4790k would cost up to £255, plus I could also use a set of 2400mhz DDR3 also), so I feel it makes sense in my scenario.
However, I do want to sit it out for a while. Right now there are very few AM4 brackets for coolers and the ones that are available will set you back an additional tenner. Also I want to hold out and see if the teething problems the arch is having with DDR4 ram is resolved in the coming months.

The 1700 comes with a very good stock cooler.
I do want to upgrade to Ryzen (upgrading my haswell rig to a 4790k would cost up to £255, plus I could also use a set of 2400mhz DDR3 also), so I feel it makes sense in my scenario.

However, I do want to sit it out for a while. Right now there are very few AM4 brackets for coolers and the ones that are available will set you back an additional tenner. Also I want to hold out and see if the teething problems the arch is having with DDR4 ram is resolved in the coming months.
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Phenomenal CPU loving mine since I upgraded from my 6700k - Yes upgraded I strongly stand by the term as gameplay is smoother, and I can stream in high quality without dropping frames. My 6700k dropped frames so I was forced to use the crappy hardware encoder option.
I think it's very unlikely that the Ryzen 7 1700 actually beats out a 6700K. I have a 6700K 4ghz and it is exceptional by every standard. Easily one of the best CPU's on the market (that's in the affordability range). Now I don't doubt that in terms of price v performance the Ryzen is better, but top end the 6700k will win every single day.
All that being said this is still a great price for a good little CPU. Heat added.
6700k destroys 1700 in games.
If you are using heavy software streaming though it won't be as fast (but why you wouldn't use hardware accelerated I don't know, it is better quality for the power consumption and resource use etc)
In any case 1700 is an ok CPU for games, not amazing but not bad.
Yes this is my understanding of it as well - The extra threads mean you get an increase in MINIMUM FPS (marginally) but the 6700K gives you a huge boost to MAXIMUM FPS.
For streamers I think it's still better to use a 6700k and use hardware accelerators, Nvidia have some great little applications themselves for boosting performance whilst streaming. Like I said, this CPU is not considered 'excellent' but it's still going to be a powerhouse when comparing PricevsPerformance.
This isn't true. I don't know where this "lower average FPS but better Min Frames" discussion originated from, but there are plenty of reviews that include Min Frames, and the 6700k/7700k beat the Ryzen chips for Min and Average.
It's the perfect 'misinformation' to spread as you can't easily refute it with the average review.
Gamernexus did a pretty good review highlighting min frames.

I was under the same impression as well. The 6700k and 7700k are better for minimum frames. If anyone has any evidence to refute this it would be welcome as as I'm thinking about an upgrade to a 6700k.

From everything I've seen Ryzen is fine for gaming at 60hz. If you're not gaming at [email protected]+ you're probably better off spending the money on your graphics card. If you do demanding tasks other than gaming with your computer then Ryzen might make sense as well.

EDIT: TechReport have done some pretty extensive testing here:

https://techreport.com/review/31724/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-and-ryzen-5-1500x-cpus-reviewed-part-one/6

They do far more analysis on frametime than any other site I've seen.

Edited By: lomax on Apr 27, 2017 21:51: Add techreport review
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Ryzen 5 1600 Desktop CPU £199.99 Amazon (3-4 weeks)

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just dropped 10 pounds what a bargain :) edit1: ordered mine shows delivery between 12-24 may. Read More
just dropped 10 pounds what a bargain :) edit1: ordered mine shows delivery between 12-24 may.
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Could get a 6600k for that price!
Yes, so that would be a 4C/4T (cores/threads) whereas this is 6C/12T. Now IPC of Ryzen is 'only' around Haswell level and the Skylake can overclock (but don't expect Kabylake i5-7600K level).
As always it depends what you want to; Ryzen will be way faster in most productivity tasks (but even some workloads you would expect to scale well with cores do not - like for instance Photoshop), the Skylake in a lot of poorly threaded games (although there are plenty of recent games where an i5 is not enough and multiplayer BF1 almost saturates an i7). Also, don't forget for games that most review benchmarks are run on clean Windows installs with nothing in the background. I know some people have scripts to pause background tasks when gaming but most do not.
Dont get me wrong i love what ryzen can do. But majority of ppl building a pc will build with gaming in mind. For the next few years, intel is better overall. Thanks to ryzen intel 6700k dropped and i grabbed for under 250. Overclocked to 4.6ghz and under 65 degrees load. Ryzen can't touch that.
There might be a long term problem with that strategy though.
Similar to those on video card threads with the 'hope Vega gets here soon, so I can by a cheaper GTX 1080 etc.".
But yes people are far to easily impressed with the mostly tiny % difference between Skylake/Kabylake and Ryzen for gaming. Personally, I only build with gaming as a secondary concern and am quite willing to lose 10-20% theoretical max performance (but generally far closer for min frames which is far more important), if I get a CPU which is faster in application and has cores to spare when I'm going stuff.
That, plus at some point people have to support the underdog if they value competition and choice. Not that hard to do since Ryzen offers good value and performance.
BTW, I'm sure that a 4GHz Ryzen can match that in some games: BF1 multiplayer, Doom and perhaps even Crysis 3. Basically anything which scales well with cores. Yes, the upcoming LGA2066 Intel HEDT processors with 8+ cores may be quicker if they clock to 4GHz+ but are likely to cost a lot.
I agree, atleast they are on par and having the competition back will hopefully give us better price and performance.

Exciting times for both. I am happy with a 6700k for 250 though, was a good buy for my requirements and in the nexr few years if games have optimisation for AMD i will probably jump ship.
I'm going for one of these.
If only because of intels 5% incremental increases dribbling out over the last few releases.
teggl97
Gkains
teggl97
Could get a 6600k for that price!
Yes, so that would be a 4C/4T (cores/threads) whereas this is 6C/12T. Now IPC of Ryzen is 'only' around Haswell level and the Skylake can overclock (but don't expect Kabylake i5-7600K level).
As always it depends what you want to; Ryzen will be way faster in most productivity tasks (but even some workloads you would expect to scale well with cores do not - like for instance Photoshop), the Skylake in a lot of poorly threaded games (although there are plenty of recent games where an i5 is not enough and multiplayer BF1 almost saturates an i7). Also, don't forget for games that most review benchmarks are run on clean Windows installs with nothing in the background. I know some people have scripts to pause background tasks when gaming but most do not.
Dont get me wrong i love what ryzen can do. But majority of ppl building a pc will build with gaming in mind. For the next few years, intel is better overall. Thanks to ryzen intel 6700k dropped and i grabbed for under 250. Overclocked to 4.6ghz and under 65 degrees load. Ryzen can't touch that.
There might be a long term problem with that strategy though.
Similar to those on video card threads with the 'hope Vega gets here soon, so I can by a cheaper GTX 1080 etc.".
But yes people are far to easily impressed with the mostly tiny % difference between Skylake/Kabylake and Ryzen for gaming. Personally, I only build with gaming as a secondary concern and am quite willing to lose 10-20% theoretical max performance (but generally far closer for min frames which is far more important), if I get a CPU which is faster in application and has cores to spare when I'm going stuff.
That, plus at some point people have to support the underdog if they value competition and choice. Not that hard to do since Ryzen offers good value and performance.
BTW, I'm sure that a 4GHz Ryzen can match that in some games: BF1 multiplayer, Doom and perhaps even Crysis 3. Basically anything which scales well with cores. Yes, the upcoming LGA2066 Intel HEDT processors with 8+ cores may be quicker if they clock to 4GHz+ but are likely to cost a lot.
Gkains
teggl97
Could get a 6600k for that price!
Yes, so that would be a 4C/4T (cores/threads) whereas this is 6C/12T. Now IPC of Ryzen is 'only' around Haswell level and the Skylake can overclock (but don't expect Kabylake i5-7600K level).
As always it depends what you want to; Ryzen will be way faster in most productivity tasks (but even some workloads you would expect to scale well with cores do not - like for instance Photoshop), the Skylake in a lot of poorly threaded games (although there are plenty of recent games where an i5 is not enough and multiplayer BF1 almost saturates an i7). Also, don't forget for games that most review benchmarks are run on clean Windows installs with nothing in the background. I know some people have scripts to pause background tasks when gaming but most do not.
Dont get me wrong i love what ryzen can do. But majority of ppl building a pc will build with gaming in mind. For the next few years, intel is better overall. Thanks to ryzen intel 6700k dropped and i grabbed for under 250. Overclocked to 4.6ghz and under 65 degrees load. Ryzen can't touch that.
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Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1800X 4.00GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - £449.99 @ Overclockers

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This is the 8-core, 16-thread, top-of-the range Ryzen model from the recent releases. This is the cheapest I've seen it - usually retails about £480-490. It is a phenomenal all-round processor - if al… Read More
This is the 8-core, 16-thread, top-of-the range Ryzen model from the recent releases. This is the cheapest I've seen it - usually retails about £480-490. It is a phenomenal all-round processor - if al…
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and for gaming, amd has yet again produced garbage which is bad for us as intel can charge whatever they want.
And yet Intel has suddenly brought forward their new cpus & platforms by at least 3 months, implying price drops on current ones in due course...
Yep and already specs on yet another motherboard release with the 300 series, I don't know about you guys but I'm getting sick of intel releasing a new chipset motherboard every year with nothing but the most basic upgrades, it's become a joke it's like there grasping at straws while scalping joe public and now it just aggravates me to see another.
the complete blitz of z270 boards released overpriced pieces of junk blanketing the market with an obscene amount of boards with asus being the worst separating them by as little as a usb 3 header and Wi-Fi module, what a joke.
To be fair the mobo makers make very little on each board. Thats why ecs, abit and sapphire(mobo unit) went up in smoke.
Oh come on they're making plenty, built by machine using cheaply bough Chinese components running all day spinning out boards oh they're making plenty of money, profit is high but here's the thing right now on amazon most sales on the top 100 mobo's are for H series and B series both intel and amd, there are more z170 boards in the top 100 than there are z270 and that's just in the u.k. so that should tell them something.
The market is massively shrunk since the 2000s heyday. Note that i'm not talking about intel's desire to produce a new chipset per 2 cpu generations
Ye I agree with that, imo they brought it on themselves and there really doing themselves damage now prices are just to high and it pushes people to the used market and were all recycling old systems that are still just as good but now these companies make little to no money where if they'd priced better then it would not be worth shopping the used market, prices are up as a result sales are down and its there own fault for the greed increasing profit margins, there's enough used gear out there for us all and there's little innovation being done, plenty of greed and corruption but not much else.
Nvidia sales plummeted this year which is why all the price drops and promises of refreshes and volta this year hoping an injection or performance will make them money, blind to the fact that it's all about the money if the 1070 was priced better or the titan which should really only be a $500 card then I'd be buying graphics cards every gen, maybe not titans but 1070's at £250-£275 for sure the 1060/1160's should be the sweet spot card at £175-£200 yet is some cases there almost £300 asus at it again with 3 fans no less lol.
intel are also in trouble selling overpriced items people can't afford and issues with 10nm, now with amd upping the game they're in bad shape trying to push through x299 which will not be great and cost wattage with there lowest chip at around 125 watts where ryzen is 95w and still these morons haven't caught on nobody can buy these items the longer you charge these prices the less money you make we all buy used systems and are happy therefor we don't need to buy new even when they do drop prices.

I don't think personally consumer £250-300 mobo is warranted. Nvidia has massively overpriced their cards, nearly everything they have ever done outside their gfx cards has been a flop. Who remembers their nvtv card ?.. :D

the downward spiral of desktop, is down to tablets and smart phones.Yet, intel and nvidia jacked their prices up, which killed the sector even further. Old school economics.
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bouncy99
and for gaming, amd has yet again produced garbage which is bad for us as intel can charge whatever they want.
And yet Intel has suddenly brought forward their new cpus & platforms by at least 3 months, implying price drops on current ones in due course...
Yep and already specs on yet another motherboard release with the 300 series, I don't know about you guys but I'm getting sick of intel releasing a new chipset motherboard every year with nothing but the most basic upgrades, it's become a joke it's like there grasping at straws while scalping joe public and now it just aggravates me to see another.
the complete blitz of z270 boards released overpriced pieces of junk blanketing the market with an obscene amount of boards with asus being the worst separating them by as little as a usb 3 header and Wi-Fi module, what a joke.
To be fair the mobo makers make very little on each board. Thats why ecs, abit and sapphire(mobo unit) went up in smoke.
Oh come on they're making plenty, built by machine using cheaply bough Chinese components running all day spinning out boards oh they're making plenty of money, profit is high but here's the thing right now on amazon most sales on the top 100 mobo's are for H series and B series both intel and amd, there are more z170 boards in the top 100 than there are z270 and that's just in the u.k. so that should tell them something.
The market is massively shrunk since the 2000s heyday. Note that i'm not talking about intel's desire to produce a new chipset per 2 cpu generations

Ye I agree with that, imo they brought it on themselves and there really doing themselves damage now prices are just to high and it pushes people to the used market and were all recycling old systems that are still just as good but now these companies make little to no money where if they'd priced better then it would not be worth shopping the used market, prices are up as a result sales are down and its there own fault for the greed increasing profit margins, there's enough used gear out there for us all and there's little innovation being done, plenty of greed and corruption but not much else.

Nvidia sales plummeted this year which is why all the price drops and promises of refreshes and volta this year hoping an injection or performance will make them money, blind to the fact that it's all about the money if the 1070 was priced better or the titan which should really only be a $500 card then I'd be buying graphics cards every gen, maybe not titans but 1070's at £250-£275 for sure the 1060/1160's should be the sweet spot card at £175-£200 yet is some cases there almost £300 asus at it again with 3 fans no less lol.

intel are also in trouble selling overpriced items people can't afford and issues with 10nm, now with amd upping the game they're in bad shape trying to push through x299 which will not be great and cost wattage with there lowest chip at around 125 watts where ryzen is 95w and still these morons haven't caught on nobody can buy these items the longer you charge these prices the less money you make we all buy used systems and are happy therefor we don't need to buy new even when they do drop prices.
revolver31
taras
revolver31
TesseractOrion
bouncy99
and for gaming, amd has yet again produced garbage which is bad for us as intel can charge whatever they want.
And yet Intel has suddenly brought forward their new cpus & platforms by at least 3 months, implying price drops on current ones in due course...
Yep and already specs on yet another motherboard release with the 300 series, I don't know about you guys but I'm getting sick of intel releasing a new chipset motherboard every year with nothing but the most basic upgrades, it's become a joke it's like there grasping at straws while scalping joe public and now it just aggravates me to see another.
the complete blitz of z270 boards released overpriced pieces of junk blanketing the market with an obscene amount of boards with asus being the worst separating them by as little as a usb 3 header and Wi-Fi module, what a joke.
To be fair the mobo makers make very little on each board. Thats why ecs, abit and sapphire(mobo unit) went up in smoke.
Oh come on they're making plenty, built by machine using cheaply bough Chinese components running all day spinning out boards oh they're making plenty of money, profit is high but here's the thing right now on amazon most sales on the top 100 mobo's are for H series and B series both intel and amd, there are more z170 boards in the top 100 than there are z270 and that's just in the u.k. so that should tell them something.

The market is massively shrunk since the 2000s heyday. Note that i'm not talking about intel's desire to produce a new chipset per 2 cpu generations
taras
revolver31
TesseractOrion
bouncy99
and for gaming, amd has yet again produced garbage which is bad for us as intel can charge whatever they want.
And yet Intel has suddenly brought forward their new cpus & platforms by at least 3 months, implying price drops on current ones in due course...
Yep and already specs on yet another motherboard release with the 300 series, I don't know about you guys but I'm getting sick of intel releasing a new chipset motherboard every year with nothing but the most basic upgrades, it's become a joke it's like there grasping at straws while scalping joe public and now it just aggravates me to see another.
the complete blitz of z270 boards released overpriced pieces of junk blanketing the market with an obscene amount of boards with asus being the worst separating them by as little as a usb 3 header and Wi-Fi module, what a joke.
To be fair the mobo makers make very little on each board. Thats why ecs, abit and sapphire(mobo unit) went up in smoke.

Oh come on they're making plenty, built by machine using cheaply bough Chinese components running all day spinning out boards oh they're making plenty of money, profit is high but here's the thing right now on amazon most sales on the top 100 mobo's are for H series and B series both intel and amd, there are more z170 boards in the top 100 than there are z270 and that's just in the u.k. so that should tell them something.
revolver31
TesseractOrion
bouncy99
and for gaming, amd has yet again produced garbage which is bad for us as intel can charge whatever they want.
And yet Intel has suddenly brought forward their new cpus & platforms by at least 3 months, implying price drops on current ones in due course...
Yep and already specs on yet another motherboard release with the 300 series, I don't know about you guys but I'm getting sick of intel releasing a new chipset motherboard every year with nothing but the most basic upgrades, it's become a joke it's like there grasping at straws while scalping joe public and now it just aggravates me to see another.
the complete blitz of z270 boards released overpriced pieces of junk blanketing the market with an obscene amount of boards with asus being the worst separating them by as little as a usb 3 header and Wi-Fi module, what a joke.

To be fair the mobo makers make very little on each board. Thats why ecs, abit and sapphire(mobo unit) went up in smoke.
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Asus Zenbook Flip UX360UA 13.3" 2-in-1 Laptop - Grey 8GB RAM, i5 Processor, 128GB SSD £539.10 with code WINDOWS10 Free Delivery @ AO

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Every time i look for a deal it seems to have gone, this is the third one today now, DOH!

Shame this price isnt there any more, was very interested
Dear Priceyrice. the glare is not too bad it does have a reflection, but, the quality of the screen is superb and stunning apart from that. Like most laptops/tablets not suitable outside in direct sunlight.
Anyone got one of these, I heard the screen glare is awful, anyone able to confirm?
If you don't need a touchscreen/tablet get the Median S3409 and save £160.
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AMD Ryzen 5 1600 6c/12t Processor inc. Wraith Spire cooler £193.00 at Amazon.fr

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Since the other cheap deal from Amazon.co.uk expired, I hope this may help a few folks looking for the cheapest option presently for this CPU. Purchased using one of the many fee free foreign currenc… Read More
Since the other cheap deal from Amazon.co.uk expired, I hope this may help a few folks looking for the cheapest option presently for this CPU. Purchased using one of the many fee free foreign currenc…
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@Nate1492, explain to me what CPU you can get for £180 that is better than a 1600 @ 4.0GHz
Also...
My order is now due to be delivered Sunday. Not bad after an initial 1-2 month estimate X)
Now the question is... do I wait for the mini itx boards to be released.
I mean, it's not £180... This is £193 via France.
The i5 7600k is pretty damn good compared to the 1600. AMD aren't comparing the 1600 to the 7600k because it gets walloped. They keep pointing it against the 7500 locked chip, and who can blame them? It makes their chip look on par.
The 7500 is a good chip, but I wouldn't recommend it, just like the 1600 is a good chip, I wouldn't recommend it either.
The 7600k is a very sweet chip, I don't see any deals for the chip, but it's baseline of 216 on Amazon is not too bad.
A few months ago there was a 7600k for 203 on hotukdeals.
But there are still lots of legs on older i7 chips, compared to the 1600.
I couldn't, with good faith, recommend someone with a 2500k to upgrade to a ryzen 1600, the upgrade is small. With that said, I couldn't recommend an Intel upgrade either.
It was a £180 for a good while, hence if you look at people who have received them they have comments on the price paid after the postage refund since they were posted from Amazon UK, so it should have been free.
As for the other thing, ignore upgrading, if you had to recommend a CPU for a new build in this price bracket £200ish then you would say go with the 7600k?

If you needed to upgrade right now, and had 200 quid for a CPU? I would ask what you intend to do with the computer.

Games? Productivity (Excel, photoshop, word) 7600k.

Rendering? I'd check to see if you really needed a CPU to render, because most people are better off using hardware acceleration.

I just can't see the work load that makes sense here. The Ryzen CPU is still maturing, it has teething issues that I wouldn't want to recommend to someone.

'Here, this one will probably be good in 6 months, but you may have to mess with firmware and drivers and turn off settings for it to be ok'.

or 'This is super mature, no issues out the box, you will be supported fully from install onward'.

To me, I have little interest in helping someone build a PC rig just for me to have to trouble shoot CPU issues.

Also, I'd like to see how AMD mature with their next release, which I can only expect is a 'tock' improvement to IPC and not an architecture bit. The motherboards are also just out the door in terms of maturity.

So yeah, I would recommend the 7600k to most people at 200 (I'd also suggest waiting a bit though).
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DaveDesire
@Nate1492, explain to me what CPU you can get for £180 that is better than a 1600 @ 4.0GHz
Also...
My order is now due to be delivered Sunday. Not bad after an initial 1-2 month estimate X)
Now the question is... do I wait for the mini itx boards to be released.
I mean, it's not £180... This is £193 via France.
The i5 7600k is pretty damn good compared to the 1600. AMD aren't comparing the 1600 to the 7600k because it gets walloped. They keep pointing it against the 7500 locked chip, and who can blame them? It makes their chip look on par.
The 7500 is a good chip, but I wouldn't recommend it, just like the 1600 is a good chip, I wouldn't recommend it either.
The 7600k is a very sweet chip, I don't see any deals for the chip, but it's baseline of 216 on Amazon is not too bad.
A few months ago there was a 7600k for 203 on hotukdeals.
But there are still lots of legs on older i7 chips, compared to the 1600.
I couldn't, with good faith, recommend someone with a 2500k to upgrade to a ryzen 1600, the upgrade is small. With that said, I couldn't recommend an Intel upgrade either.

It was a £180 for a good while, hence if you look at people who have received them they have comments on the price paid after the postage refund since they were posted from Amazon UK, so it should have been free.

As for the other thing, ignore upgrading, if you had to recommend a CPU for a new build in this price bracket £200ish then you would say go with the 7600k?
Nate1492
DaveDesire
@Nate1492, explain to me what CPU you can get for £180 that is better than a 1600 @ 4.0GHzAlso...My order is now due to be delivered Sunday. Not bad after an initial 1-2 month estimate X)Now the question is... do I wait for the mini itx boards to be released.
I mean, it's not £180... This is £193 via France.The i5 7600k is pretty damn good compared to the 1600. AMD aren't comparing the 1600 to the 7600k because it gets walloped. They keep pointing it against the 7500 locked chip, and who can blame them? It makes their chip look on par.The 7500 is a good chip, but I wouldn't recommend it, just like the 1600 is a good chip, I wouldn't recommend it either.The 7600k is a very sweet chip, I don't see any deals for the chip, but it's baseline of 216 on Amazon is not too bad.A few months ago there was a 7600k for 203 on hotukdeals.But there are still lots of legs on older i7 chips, compared to the 1600.I couldn't, with good faith, recommend someone with a 2500k to upgrade to a ryzen 1600, the upgrade is small. With that said, I couldn't recommend an Intel upgrade either.

7600k is 4 cores and 4 threads

1600 is 6 cores 12 threads and cheaper, and has better productivity scores
DaveDesire
@Nate1492, explain to me what CPU you can get for £180 that is better than a 1600 @ 4.0GHz
Also...
My order is now due to be delivered Sunday. Not bad after an initial 1-2 month estimate X)
Now the question is... do I wait for the mini itx boards to be released.

I mean, it's not £180... This is £193 via France.

The i5 7600k is pretty damn good compared to the 1600. AMD aren't comparing the 1600 to the 7600k because it gets walloped. They keep pointing it against the 7500 locked chip, and who can blame them? It makes their chip look on par.

The 7500 is a good chip, but I wouldn't recommend it, just like the 1600 is a good chip, I wouldn't recommend it either.

The 7600k is a very sweet chip, I don't see any deals for the chip, but it's baseline of 216 on Amazon is not too bad.

A few months ago there was a 7600k for 203 on hotukdeals.

But there are still lots of legs on older i7 chips, compared to the 1600.

I couldn't, with good faith, recommend someone with a 2500k to upgrade to a ryzen 1600, the upgrade is small. With that said, I couldn't recommend an Intel upgrade either.
@Nate1492, explain to me what CPU you can get for £180 that is better than a 1600 @ 4.0GHz

Also...

My order is now due to be delivered Sunday. Not bad after an initial 1-2 month estimate X)

Now the question is... do I wait for the mini itx boards to be released.
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Looks like you need to mod the heatsink on these at the temps supposedly reach 94C under load! oO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOd-ZI9YbMU

Apart from that, it's got a decent review (summary at 13m46s) though 4-5 hour battery life is ridiculous...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P7tl_8P200

Edited By: Picard123 on Apr 22, 2017 20:21: ,
mmmeeuu
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Other retailers are available.

If you want to pay more ;-)
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i have the previous version of this, and its very good
winchman
Keyboard is about £40. For less than £300 don't think its a bad spec considering you would pay probably £500+ in UK for this spec.
This processor is roughly 30% faster than a N3450 yet at a similar price.

That's true. BTW I'm looking at this Cube and the Voyo V3which is a Yoga-type laptop with a N4200. Core M3 beats it by a mile in single threaded but the Pentium's quad core keeps up in multi. Has bigger screen but same res plus a stylus. Cube is more compact and more useable as a tablet of course.
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brilly
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He's already said that he's got a desktop. Keep up!
so? he should get one anyway
OMG. You are definitely on the 'spectrum'.....
keep up kid
brilly
Picard123
He's already said that he's got a desktop. Keep up!
so? he should get one anyway

OMG. You are definitely on the 'spectrum'.....
Picard123
brilly
Shakeyyy
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Shakeyyy
But that doesn't explain why people pay the same price for substantially less performance. You wouldn't pay premium Audi prices for a Nissan Micra because you want something small and nifty - you pay based on performance and reliability. Paying premium prices for a dual core is ridiculous and for mugs
thinking would explain why
why are you looking at laptops btw? shouldn't you get a desktop?
I already have a high-end desktop, I'm looking for a laptop in order to travel while working since I can't always be at the office. Laptops seem to be quite dire at the moment from last few years offerings.
no, you should get a desktop
He's already said that he's got a desktop. Keep up!
so? he should get one anyway

"....why people pay the same price for substantially less performance. You wouldn't pay premium Audi prices for a Nissan Micra because you want something small and nifty - you pay based on performance and reliability. Paying premium prices for a small screened inflexible system is ridiculous and for mugs"

get the point or make a valid point for once!
brilly
Shakeyyy
brilly
Shakeyyy
But that doesn't explain why people pay the same price for substantially less performance. You wouldn't pay premium Audi prices for a Nissan Micra because you want something small and nifty - you pay based on performance and reliability. Paying premium prices for a dual core is ridiculous and for mugs
thinking would explain why
why are you looking at laptops btw? shouldn't you get a desktop?
I already have a high-end desktop, I'm looking for a laptop in order to travel while working since I can't always be at the office. Laptops seem to be quite dire at the moment from last few years offerings.
no, you should get a desktop

He's already said that he's got a desktop. Keep up!
Shakeyyy
brilly
Shakeyyy
But that doesn't explain why people pay the same price for substantially less performance. You wouldn't pay premium Audi prices for a Nissan Micra because you want something small and nifty - you pay based on performance and reliability. Paying premium prices for a dual core is ridiculous and for mugs
thinking would explain why
why are you looking at laptops btw? shouldn't you get a desktop?
I already have a high-end desktop, I'm looking for a laptop in order to travel while working since I can't always be at the office. Laptops seem to be quite dire at the moment from last few years offerings.
no, you should get a desktop
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Good to note that at least it has R6 M340DX 2GB dedicated graphics. About 50% the power of 940MX
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i was thinking of getting the 1600 but truly only for surfing/gaming a quad core does the job...i wish pc's were optimized like consoles to push games at using full 6/8 cores but i guess it is what it is as the consoles were built for that reason only for perfect gaming experience

I wouldn't say consoles were a perfect gaming experience (as an XB1 owner), if you want to run 720p-900p in 30fps they're pretty perfect though :)
i was thinking of getting the 1600 but truly only for surfing/gaming a quad core does the job...i wish pc's were optimized like consoles to push games at using full 6/8 cores but i guess it is what it is as the consoles were built for that reason only for perfect gaming experience

Edited By: BigP50000 on Apr 12, 2017 14:11
I wouldn't use Alza personally, for the sake of £10. CCL with 1% Quidco is not much more expensive.

Edited By: The_Hoff on Apr 12, 2017 12:23
for those who have said ryzen was rushed out - it wasn't. live versions of the b350 class mobos where out in 2016. What ever was the cause of the delay it allowed amd to do another respin of ryzen and bump it up to 3.6ghz.

Gaming on the ryzen should get better and better as new games come onto the market
BigP50000
I found the Ryzen 1600 at the same site (based in Czech Republic) for £206.90 here, tried to submit the deal but the site is not approved by HUKD so got automatically removed.

You can get a free £5 discount code for signing up to their newsletter.
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This or a 6600k for £100 less (for gaming)? Upgrading my set up soon, does this cpu work in a am3 motherboard, currently have an amd fx 6300, can i straight swap or will I have to buy a new motherboard as well? What are the positives of the ryzen, I like both intel and amd but I keep hearing amazing things about ryzen? Planning to pair it up with a 1080..
EDIT: Just found out it uses am4 mobos

For gaming? Definitely not this.

This CPU is aimed at HEDT, multi threading.

This CPU does not fit in the am3, it requires am4.

The positives of the Ryzen 7 line is that it offers better value for strongly multithreaded tasks, such as video rendering (if you don't use CUDA...).

For games, the 6600k, 6700k, 7600k, and 7700k will, on average, be ahead of the 1700.

6600k is a great gaming oriented chip.
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vulcanproject
Techspot ran a bunch of DX12 games as the claims were DX12. They merely proved that isn't the case Nvidia's drivers are to blame for a consistent variance and therefore it just varies naturally game to game. That's how it works and always worked.
Saying anything else is more ridiculous AMD fanboy moaning and excuses. It is really tiring listening to it all the time with zero evidence and there again some proven to be just the opposite no less.
Fanboys won't listen to both sides and see all the evidence just the parts that reinforce their (false) claims.
There is no conspiracy against AMD. It's their fault if their platform is launched and it isn't refined properly yet. It isn't Nvidia and Intel conspiring to bone AMD's gaming performance. They just have inferior performance. It's up to them to fix it if they actually can.
It is simply how the market stands right now. Accept it and wait for change instead of inventing a load of **** theories with no real consistent evidence to back it up.
I'll just agree with your obviously well balanced point of view. There is no Nvidia DX12 performance issues people, move along.
Except here's some more inconsistent information to chip in with:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1XHdWVKRkAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBf2lvfKkxA
DX12 problem confirmed.
Wait... how is that a consistent problem across DX12 if your own sources show that five DX12 games do not have the problem - five out of seven (perfect score!), if we include your second source as trustworthy. Heh, funnily enough, three of them are better with Ryzen/Nvidia according to your first source, which also agrees with that TechPowerUp article that you dismissed because... well. ;)
I already included a link to the numbers for that first source of yours above, but I understand that they're not easy to parse without experience. Here they are again, and I've pointed out the bit you seem to have missed - that only Rise of the Tomb Raider throws out a significant difference
That second source of yours... a new Youtuber with zero subscribers and fewer hits than my home movies about my dog playing with my horses (although oddly, you've already linked to this unknown at least twice on two separate topics), OK, but let's pretend it's a real source. One game: The Division, which already had inconsistent DX12 performance before Ryzen, and is another non-native DX12 game.
But as someone once said, "People will bitch and moan until the end of eternity and defend their choices.":{

Thanks for your opinion.
The_Hoff
vulcanproject
Techspot ran a bunch of DX12 games as the claims were DX12. They merely proved that isn't the case Nvidia's drivers are to blame for a consistent variance and therefore it just varies naturally game to game. That's how it works and always worked.
Saying anything else is more ridiculous AMD fanboy moaning and excuses. It is really tiring listening to it all the time with zero evidence and there again some proven to be just the opposite no less.
Fanboys won't listen to both sides and see all the evidence just the parts that reinforce their (false) claims.
There is no conspiracy against AMD. It's their fault if their platform is launched and it isn't refined properly yet. It isn't Nvidia and Intel conspiring to bone AMD's gaming performance. They just have inferior performance. It's up to them to fix it if they actually can.
It is simply how the market stands right now. Accept it and wait for change instead of inventing a load of **** theories with no real consistent evidence to back it up.
I'll just agree with your obviously well balanced point of view. There is no Nvidia DX12 performance issues people, move along.
Except here's some more inconsistent information to chip in with:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1XHdWVKRkAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBf2lvfKkxA
DX12 problem confirmed.
Wait... how is that a consistent problem across DX12 if your own sources show that five DX12 games do not have the problem - five out of seven (perfect score!), if we include your second source as trustworthy. Heh, funnily enough, three of them are better with Ryzen/Nvidia according to your first source, which also agrees with that TechPowerUp article that you dismissed because... well. ;)

I already included a link to the numbers for that first source of yours above, but I understand that they're not easy to parse without experience. Here they are again, and I've pointed out the bit you seem to have missed - that only Rise of the Tomb Raider throws out a significant difference:

http://i.imgur.com/ea05dgf.jpg

That second source of yours... a new Youtuber with zero subscribers and fewer hits than my home movies about my dog playing with my horses (although oddly, you've already linked to this unknown at least twice on two separate topics), OK, but let's pretend it's a real source. One game: The Division, which already had inconsistent DX12 performance before Ryzen, and is another non-native DX12 game.

But as someone once said, "People will bitch and moan until the end of eternity and defend their choices.":{
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It's £299 everywhere! In fact you can find one for £2 less elsewhere. ;)
Still £329.99 @ ocuk

+£10.50 P&P then. :|
Would love to but my 3570k OCed is still going strong.
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Personally, there are cheaper options for this spec.

Plenty of the Chuwi tablets at around £100 to £200. The Linx 10v64/12v64 both have Atom X5/4gb ram variants but you sacrifice 64gb storage but it'd still be cheaper with buying a 64gb micro sd card.
I wouldn't chance another Asus product
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CAUTION.
The biggest problem with any of these chinese phones is getting support/repairs in the UK/Europe.
I inevitable dropped my OUKITEL; smashed the glass, (not as breakproof as claimed by manufacturer) but then discovered NO SUPPORT in this part of the world. :(
well yeah thats your fault. No phone is breakproof

Yes but you've missed my point -I cant get it fixed in the UK/Europe.
That's the downside of buying phone from China without a UK support agent.
whydoiwastemytimehere
CAUTION.
The biggest problem with any of these chinese phones is getting support/repairs in the UK/Europe.
I inevitable dropped my OUKITEL; smashed the glass, (not as breakproof as claimed by manufacturer) but then discovered NO SUPPORT in this part of the world. :(
well yeah thats your fault. No phone is breakproof
CAUTION.
The biggest problem with any of these chinese phones is getting support/repairs in the UK/Europe.
I inevitable dropped my OUKITEL; smashed the glass, (not as breakproof as claimed by manufacturer) but then discovered NO SUPPORT in this part of the world. :(
720p display for £100?
is it a good phone?
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Order just got canceled, refund issued as well.
Xyzac
Order just got canceled, refund issued as well.
me as well :(
Order just got canceled, refund issued as well.
Sorry, this product is no longer available to purchase.
They seem to stock a lot of Cup coolers that dont list s1150 , is that just bad listing?
eg Noctua DH14 ?

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Not sure why this is getting so much heat
The Cryorig H7 is half the price and basically has the same performance.
Cooling Comparison - https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/H7_Universal/6.html
Noise Comparison - https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/H7_Universal/7.html
0-2 degree difference and a 0-3 decibel difference.
Save yourself £15-20 and just get the H7.
Where can you get a Cryorig H7 new for £20-25 delivered?
The cheapest I can see it is £36.99 at Overclockers, but that's not including their extortionate ~£6 delivery charge and the fact it's expected to be out of stock until June.
Huh, strange, seems like it's getting phased out and will be replaced. Fair point - far harder to get hold of and more expensive than it use to be.
Damn, I was hoping I'd missed it and I could pick one up for ~£20 just to keep as a spare cooler, then if my H110i ever needs to go in for repair or anything I wouldn't end up running my CPU at stock speeds on the dreadful Intel cooler.

However, £40 seems bit much for something that I know full well will spend 99%+ of its life in its box, in the cupboard of spare PC bits.
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Literally no point ever buying this CPU. I can't even think of one reason why.
Only reason would be if you've already got an AM3 setup (with sufficient PSU and cooler) and this gives you the extra performance you need now which may make £149 better immediate value than switching to Intel or even Ryzen when you will also have to factor in new mboard + new DDR4.
There was really only one use for these and that is virtualisation (well and possible some media encoding as long as it's not AVX2 or FPU heavy). That is sometimes having 8 integer cores is useful. But for those of these usages, the 8320E is a far better value than this pre-overclocked processor. However, AM3+ is a totally dead socket.
Of course, 8+ core Ryzen or Intel HEDT perform a lot better that these tasks but even Ryzen 7 costs at least twice of this.

poison3k
You can get a g4xx for half the price which outperforms this cpu, for the same money you can pick up an i5 which is twice as good.
At single-threaded stuff? Sure, but for the two niche usage cases above (virtualisation and media encoding) 2C/4T is often not enough.
What's the best AMD cpu for purely desktop speed. As in internet browsing and office programs. No real graphics. For under £100?
This is in the wrong section .. should be in Household - heating - this is cheap for a heater of this power.. could use it in a greenhouse AND do some folding on the side...
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I would not be able to afford the food to put in this.... after paying for it :p
not sure why cold. if it is anything like thermomix, well worth the price. Don't be misled by food processor tag as it is much more than that.
How much for a Tefal? And it doesn't even pressure cook? Oh dear!
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Can somebody help.my gmail icon has disappeared from home screen all of a sudden.i'm using nova btw
Hi,

Any Idea why I am not able to receive phone calls ???
I can phone to someone else without any problem..... (THREE)
Has anyone been able to get 4G working on Tesco mobile? I haven't so far wondering if it's anything to do with APN settings.
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Silly question for those in the know I guess, but is this a better option than an i3 7100 to save £60 and go straight for an i5 in a couple of years on a B250M-K mobo? Already have a 1060 3GB and playing GTAV online and similar games on a still very capable i5-2500, but as my setup is slowly dying I'm looking into a new mobo (which means new rams and CPU as well...)
Thinking about B250 for the M2 slot, and M2 SSD 250gb, i3 7100 or this, 8-16GB DDR4 2400 and obviously to keep my existing PSU (new corsair - don't remember the name) and 1060 and 8593453 arctic fans. Only worried if this could bottleneck during busy online sessions either on GTA V or any MMO I might start?
Any help much appreciated!

In games at least, the i3 7100 will only be 14% faster in areas where the CPU is the limiting factor. And you're paying over twice the price for that relatively small bump to performance.
Silly question for those in the know I guess, but is this a better option than an i3 7100 to save £60 and go straight for an i5 in a couple of years on a B250M-K mobo? Already have a 1060 3GB and playing GTAV online and similar games on a still very capable i5-2500, but as my setup is slowly dying I'm looking into a new mobo (which means new rams and CPU as well...)

Thinking about B250 for the M2 slot, and M2 SSD 250gb, i3 7100 or this, 8-16GB DDR4 2400 and obviously to keep my existing PSU (new corsair - don't remember the name) and 1060 and 8593453 arctic fans. Only worried if this could bottleneck during busy online sessions either on GTA V or any MMO I might start?

Any help much appreciated!
Got o0ne.
dragonline77
vulcanproject
dragonline77
i have an old ati radeon GPU, do you reckon i could find a mobo and htpc case for it? possibly even a sff case.
How old is the GPU and are you trying to game? If not and if it is really old you may as well build the machine without using it and rely on the integrated graphics of this. Then you can fit it in a tiny case, it draws so little power/creates little heat.
i have a XFX fx 785A CDFC VC.4 and an ati radeon HD 4870.

Well, the HD4870 is probably a bit old to useful as a media pc (or for gaming) and unsure about drivers.

The onboard Intel HD610 is still slower but has current driver. Although far worse value, for anyone wanting to use one of these Kabylake Pentiums in a media PC, the next one up from this the G4600 has the far more cable HD630.

That XFX is a 7850 which is still not that much slower than current £80 or so cards (RX 460, 950Ti etc.) but does use a bit more power. And for a SFF case it is possible a bit long. However, those cards should be quite good for undervolting and underclocking (with a bit of trial and error) at the cost of some speed, but making them far quieter.
vulcanproject
dragonline77
i have an old ati radeon GPU, do you reckon i could find a mobo and htpc case for it? possibly even a sff case.

How old is the GPU and are you trying to game? If not and if it is really old you may as well build the machine without using it and rely on the integrated graphics of this. Then you can fit it in a tiny case, it draws so little power/creates little heat.


i have a XFX fx 785A CDFC VC.4 and an ati radeon HD 4870.

Edited By: dragonline77 on Mar 29, 2017 16:15: gpu name
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My Kraken :D

I agree with the others, you need a bigger radiator especially if you want it halfway quiet. Mine is 280MM for reference.

Otherwise get a Noctua, cool and quiet.

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does this work on am4?
DeepCool themselves don't list it as having AM4 on their spec sheet and when you use their compatibility checker it comes up as not compatible with the 1700, 1700x and 1800x.

Source: http://www.gamerstorm.com/product/CPULIQUIDCOOLER/2016-04/1286_5089.shtml

That said, they do seem to be intending to release an AM4 bracket by the end of March for their "Captain EX" range of coolers:

Source: http://deepcool.com/press/news/2017-02/65_6567.shtml
does this work on am4?
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Something to be aware of:- ebuyer have been known to sell refurb components as new.
any proof of this?
Happened to an online friend of mine, who ordered a motherboard from them.

Okay but to be fair one single case of anecdotal evidence isn't exactly the whole story. Given the damage it could do to their reputation plus the potential legal trouble I doubt it's really something they go for.
Conversely I have bought literally hundreds of items from ebuyer (yes seriously, hundreds) and have never come across this issue. Also their after sales support / returns have been fantastic so I doubt returning something that appears to be used would be an issue in the slightest (infact I know it wouldn't because they accept returns for any reason within 14 days of delivery)
Building my younger sister a budget red and black pc, so this deal is perfect. Thanks! ;)
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Ambiano Food Processor (1000W) for only £49.99!! In store only @ Aldi

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Just to let you know that more stock is now available in Crawley and Ewil branches
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ASUS RT-AC87U AC2400 Dual-Band Gigabit Wireless Router, Access Point Mode, Dual-Processor + Dual-Core CPU, USB 3.0, Time Machine, 3G/4G Dongle Support £127.99 @ Amazon

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MazingerZ
Argh looking for a good modem+router


Just buy a separate BT Openreach modem off ebay (got mine for £12 delivered years ago). Used it with Sky and now BT. Then connect that modem to the router of your choice.
xavierzzz
I have used a few Asus expensive routers including this ASUS RT-AC87U and a ASUS DSL-AC68U, they all have little but frustrating issues, things like taking ages to reconnect after re-boot, all show as working & connected but no internet, all cable connected devices work but not the wifi...which eventually put me off
I agreed Asus's routers look cool and they are good spec hardware-wise, but I think their software are too complicated and unfinished which makes the devices are so unstable, on top of that, they are more expensive than the others.
I recently switched to TP-LINK Archer, much happier with it.

Which tp link did you looking at replacing my d20 for the archer vr400
They have half a dozen or so "used like new" warehouse deals for 122.87. One of them reads "Item is in original, pristine packaging. Products that have been water tested may contain residual water or water marks. Products that have been factory tested may contain traces of coffee in the mill.". I find that covering my router in coffee and submerging it in water helps boost performance.
Word of warning to anyone on Sky Broadband (ADSL), if you are looking to have a separate dsl modem + Wifi Router like this one as your configuration, most standalone DSL modems will not work in bridge mode with a Wifi Router.

This is because Sky only seem to allow PPPoA connections (unlike BT which allow both PPPoA & PPPoE). I found this out the hard way after reading forums for several hours on end. Therefore you cannot put the modem in bridge mode and end up with double NAT. The closest you can get to bridge mode at that point is to put the Wifi router into the DMZ of the dsl modem to avoid it.

The forum posts were a bit old in date (1 or 2 years) but apparently the only way to achieve this setup with the dsl modem in bridge mode on Sky is to buy either a Draytek Vigor 120 or 130 dsl modem which supports PPPoA to PPPoE bridging. Not sure if they are any *other* dsl modems so far that support this yet...?

Needless to say the draytek modems are more expensive than your average dsl modem. £50ish for the 120 and £80ish for the 130, I think....
tanked
MazingerZ
Argh looking for a good modem+router
I hate being on ADSL. Tempted to get this Netgear modem but not sure if it might downgrade this ASUS router in some way when combined!?!https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Modems/NETGEAR-DM200-100EUS-Broadband-High-Speed-DSL-Modem/B01GL3YPHI/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1490013579&sr=1-1&keywords=netgear+adsl

Which ISP are you on?
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Ignore the intel shills, why would you wait for a r5 quad core, when this is a 8c/16t...
Yes, ignore all those Intel shills recommending that people wait to get a different AMD CPU instead...
Great cpu, easily overclock to match 1800x. Ignore the intel shills, why would you wait for a r5 quad core, when this is a 8c/16t...This is the best price if you have compatible parts. I recommend a Taichi motherboard with Corsair LPX Black 3200mhz ddr4. Works straight out the box.
As well as motherboard availability issues that will take about another 4 weeks to resolve
While the price is decent, unless you're desperate for a new PC, I'd wait a a few more weeks for the Ryzen R5 series which will include the 4 and 6 core CPUs.

There are also a lot of motherboard and DDR4 memory compatibility issues right now which gives more reason to wait until these are ironed out.
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cheaper from ccl directly rather than the ebay link posted yesterday. used the 120 version of this myself on my last build and was impressed. this is a bargain at this price point.
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That tubing doesn't look appealing at all.
SouthamptonUK2017
BEWARE!!!My security settings are good enough to capture this kind of thing :
Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information from go.skimlinks.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID
This server could not prove that it is go.skimlinks.com; its security certificate is from go.redirectingat.com. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. Learn more. Proceed to go.skimlinks.com (unsafe)
Scary stuff guys!oO
Where did you get that error from?
Anyway, it is go.skimlinks.com that has its SSL certificate's common name as go.redirectingat.com - it looks like a random ad that has incorrect SSL, who cares :p
BEWARE!!!

My security settings are good enough to capture this kind of thing :

Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information from go.skimlinks.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID

This server could not prove that it is go.skimlinks.com; its security certificate is from go.redirectingat.com. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. Learn more. Proceed to go.skimlinks.com (unsafe)

Scary stuff guys!oO
I was given one of these. It spent 15 minutes in my system. Terrible temperatures and noise compared to my noctua dh15.
Also though do you think it'll be good temps for a overclock on ryzen ?

Thanks
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AMD Ryzen 7 1700X CPU - 3.8GHz £299.14 + £5.48 Shipping @ Amazon.fr £304.62

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Wow, it's dropped down to 349.99 Euros again! So £299.33 + £5.48 Shipping @ Amazon.fr £304.81 ;)
Back down from 410 to 359.90 Euros, which equates to £308.46 + £5.48 Shipping @ Amazon.fr £313.94 :)
tempt
At this price, why would anyone go for a 1700?
I guess people just wanting to get the Wraith Spire cooler that's included, the basic 1700 should do mininum 3.9GHz. 1700X back up to 389.99 Euros for now, will probally drop again soon.
At this price, why would anyone go for a 1700?
Price down to 349.99 Euros now! So around £302.66 oO

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15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ 8GB Ram Graphics GTX 1060 - 6.0GB Boot 128gb SSD Storage 1tb £1,278.00 @ PC Specalist

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Pcspecialist, UK based. Provider of bespoke gaming laptops. Great team.
Looks decent.
What is this company like in terms of warranty / after care?
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Food Processor and Blender 1300W £59.99 (Was £79.99) - LIDL (Silvercrest) - 3 Year Warranty

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Well worth it if you bake big cakes, we have used this model for about 3yrs now with no probs, if I had to complain about something I would say its a bit noisy! lol

WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!

That was the other negative I forgot to mention. More akin to my BELLE
Well worth it if you bake big cakes, we have used this model for about 3yrs now with no probs, if I had to complain about something I would say its a bit noisy! lol
jimmybo
getmeone
Sorry OP but even though it is a good price, I had one and returned it. IT IS HUGE and even with a modest 500g bread mix the frame was twisting.
At least with Lidl you could try it out and return - because it didn't meet your requirements
But you must have purchased the processor for £79.99!
This is HUKD
At £59.99 it's worth a purchase by HUKD members to see if it meets their requirements ;)

Correct, I did pay the £79.99 as I thought it was a great price at that. I love LIDL stuff normally and shop there every week. Having got it home and seen the SIZE, tested it on Bread, Cake and egg white.....IT WAS Useless.:3
getmeone
Sorry OP but even though it is a good price, I had one and returned it. IT IS HUGE and even with a modest 500g bread mix the frame was twisting.
At least with Lidl you could try it out and return - because it didn't meet your requirements
But you must have purchased the processor for £79.99!
This is HUKD

At £59.99 it's worth a purchase by HUKD members to see if it meets their requirements ;)
thank op..heat
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AMD Athlon X4 845 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor £40.49 @ Ebuyer

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Something something Ryzen Something something Pentium G4560 Still a good price for this slightly older but still capable chip. Not to mention cheaper motherboards too "Beats a G4400" http://te…
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Actually, this CPU is as fast as the Pentium G4560 (I think), so might be a cheaper alternative to that platform
Not too bad, this with a second hand £35 mobo.. stick some cheapo ram....
but tbh, probably better just being a pre-built 5 year old machine from ebay for £100..
At least this CPU is Excavator though, probably take this over the 860k
As much as I'm an AMD fan boy, even at this price I'd look at a modern alternative
JimBobJr
Still a good price for this slightly older but still capable chip. Not to mention cheaper motherboards too

The integrated graphics are disabled on these Athlon-branded models though, so £20 cheaper on the CPU and £10 cheaper on the motherboard may not save you anything if you don't already have a spare graphics card.

Plus it's DDR3-only so memory upgrades will be more expensive in future and any budget graphics card isn't going to have the latest features that integrated graphics will offer like a HEVC encoder.

It was worth posting at this price and may be of interest to some but a G4560 is going to be a better choice generally.
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i got a refurb dell t7500 (t5500 is smaller and should have got) for 160 from ebay. xeon e5630 processor which has passmark 4500 ish and 12 gb of ram. potential to upgrade to faster xeon and had massive psu for twin graphics in future. so lots of refurb bargains on ebay but this has amazon backing... wonder what max cpu upgrade is?
2220 passmark. so a weaker i3. can get refurb i3 on ebay for 110 to 120 and maybe i5 for this price. but here you have amazon guarantee. eould check psu but cpu bottlenecked by anything over a gtx 750ti anyhow? this plusb750ti for say 75 quid will do you 1080p gaming on low settings or maybe 720p 60fps maxed out.
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AMD Ryzen R7 1700 - Retail Box CPU from Amazon.fr - £297.55 £297.95

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The PS4 kicks the Xbox One's ass. It's superior in every way.

Wait...is this the wrong thread?
fma965801
matt101101
Furthermore, AMD could offer the CPU and GPU on one chip, an APU (something neither Intel or NVIDIA could offer)
Um what... Intel have graphics on there CPU's aswell.
AMD are planning a APU later in the year. Late 2017 Zen APU for Mobile. With a APU Desktop in 2018.

http://www.eteknix.com/amd-roadmap-details-raven-ridge-apus-and-pinnacle-ridge-cpus/

Reality is anyone buying a R7 1700 or 1800x would not do so to just buy a budget graphics option. Why spend £300-500 on a CPU if you plan to spend £60-£80 on a graphics card. Makes no sense if building a gaming machine.

Make no mistake to get a 52% improvement Per Core on a new CPU is almost unheard of. Huge leap.
For the TDP, number of cores and price performance AMD will do really well here. Sure compared to i7700k they are behind but piledriver chips were much, much slower.

Sure 7700k will beat AMD today on most games but this AM4 platform could be around for 3 years. Meaning you could slot in a upgraded CPU in 3 years time. Also for me any computer I buy today I would expect to last me 9-10 years. Personally I am happy to wait for the R5 figures.

Long term if I wanted to keep a PC for 8-10 years I would probably want 6-8 cores now. My current rig has 2 cores and that was 10 years back. I think software from gaming firms will start to use more and more core. Just like graphics cards will too with ram on graphics now up to 8gb.

http://wccftech.com/amds-vega-doubles-usable-graphics-memory/

Playstation and Xbox use Jaguar AMD graphics.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-xbox-one-project-scorpio-spec-analysis

Be interesting to see if these upgrade to Zen in due course with a lower TDP. Even a ZEN APU?

Wait and see here. Still wonder if AMD and Intel may still drop prices here.
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matt101101
Furthermore, AMD could offer the CPU and GPU on one chip, an APU (something neither Intel or NVIDIA could offer)
Um what... Intel have graphics on there CPU's aswell.
Not graphics which can play AAA games at 1080p/900p @ ~30fps with something resembling decent settings, which is what is required from both the PS4 and Xbox One.

Even if some of their higher end Iris graphics are theoretically capable of it in 2017 (and I'm not sure if they are), they certainly weren't back in the early 2010s (remember, a Sandy Bridge i7-2600k from 2011 only had Intel's HD 3000 graphics) when the PS4 and Xbox One would have been being designed.
matt101101
Furthermore, AMD could offer the CPU and GPU on one chip, an APU (something neither Intel or NVIDIA could offer)

Um what... Intel have graphics on there CPU's aswell.
Ryzen R5 range coming out on the 11th April, with 6c/12t from about £220, and with the full 16MB cache of the 8c parts, completely multi unlocked and with a decent cooler! :)
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I have ordered one via flubit and received an used cpu... open box with thermal paste on it... beware!
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The_Hoff
I won't be drawn in to debate.
That's probably the best attitude for your people to have for the time being, as the facts really don't help you at all. Maybe your favourite company in the whole wide world will do better soon, though. Stay optimistic! :)
BetaRomeo
The_Hoff
Plus, as you failed to comment on, it's not as if AMD are alone in teething issues largely driven by third parties outside of their control. Intel blah blah blah
I use the same judgement there as I do here.
Why didn't I comment on it here? Because it's entirely irrelevant to today's gaming performance - no, wait, entirely irrelevant to performance in general. I wasn't criticising AMD for having issues at launch - you were. I'm looking at the gaming performance on Ryzen and seeing that the i7-7700K leaves every available Ryzen CPU far behind. Which company is behind the best chip doesn't matter to me, although it apparently matters to you - another Ferrari-esque comment which sadly shows your hand. ;)
The_Hoff
...games need optimising for better threading (that's something nobody should be resisting)
Oh, yeah, coding games to use more threads is as simple as that. :D John Carmack, is that you?
The_Hoff
Like i said, don't buy it.
That does seem to be the consensus of the reviews in terms of gaming, true. Don't buy Ryzen.
Hopefully they'll do better with Ryzen 5. They've lost against the 7700K, but I could still see them beating the 7600K.

I won't be drawn in to debate. Sorry.

7700k is a limited one trick pony, enjoy your slice of the past. I'm looking for something bigger.
These are amazingly powerful chips. They can even make a robot act like a human (watch the following and check the message at 2m17s!)

https://youtu.be/kycXcflQJx4

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Well i hope someone here got it
You?
You're joking, right?
Too much for me :p
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Well i hope someone here got it


You?
Well i hope someone here got it