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Dell Insprion 15 5567 £599.01 @ Dell 256GB SSD i7 16GB DDR4 AMD R7 M445

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Dell are doing £100 off this weekend on certain laptops. They have auto applied it to this model but you can apply the discount again at checkout so save £200. Add item to basket and then use disco… Read More
Dell are doing £100 off this weekend on certain laptops. They have auto applied it to this model but you can apply the discount again at checkout so save £200. Add item to basket and then use disco…
jsalmond87 Avatar2d, 20h agoFound 2 days, 20 hours ago6 Comments
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moreteavicar
This is pretty much the perfect spec laptop for me but what people have said about the screen puts me off, is it really that bad?

I have one arriving Tuesday. Will report back as soon as I can with info.
This is pretty much the perfect spec laptop for me but what people have said about the screen puts me off, is it really that bad?
Seems a bargain, tempted to bite
Screen has terrible viewing angles. Worst I've ever had but replacements are under 50 quid. Comes with program to make it better but presets appear to tinge screen yellow or red or white.
Could just be mine though but I have heard about a lot if complaints on recent dell models. Are they tn's?
Davidvia0
How to apply discount again?

Sorry, should have said, use discount code SAVE100
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Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB NITRO+ Graphics Card £254.99 @ Scan

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£267.98 on amazon so this is a deal for now as a pre-order. SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Series Designed from the ground up, we've crammed in everything you need to truly maximize your gaming experience. The… Read More
£267.98 on amazon so this is a deal for now as a pre-order. SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Series Designed from the ground up, we've crammed in everything you need to truly maximize your gaming experience. The…
pimpchez Avatar1w, 4d agoFound 1 week, 4 days ago19 Comments
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These Prices are really inflated for a 1060 competitor, A couple of the cards are approaching GTX 1070 Pricing! Better off buying a RX 470 or 480 and overclocking it or a 6GB 1060 (avoid the 3GB model as your hit the VRAM limit on certain titles)

The prices on pretty much all pc gear is cranked up for 2017 the cost to buy these components is ridiculous, this has to be the worst time to buy pc parts/systems and there talking about price increases lol, on the bright side the 2nd hard market is thriving and sure to do btr should prices keep going up, can't help feeling there cutting there own throat for short term gain in profit margins.
It's pretty much gonna be which every company puts on a great deal for a component gets all the sales just like that 1070 for £300, now that deal sold a lot of cards and made some money, when those offers come up they will be grabbed people need to be patient more so now than ever before, and we need people posting deals on this site.

As for me I'm not buying anything until these prices come back down to earth, no ryzen, intel, anything I'm sitting with 3 builds lol my old phenom II 555 (unlocked to 4 cores) with ddr 3 1680mhz (7-8-7-20) is still going strong, my z97 asus pro is harldy use and now runs a large 80+ tb nas and has been very under utilized simply because I bought a much smaller system in my z170i asus gaming pro, sm951 nvme, evga gtx 1060 sc (6gb).

I may not have went the kabby lake route but if these prices had been btr I would already be building a new ryzen system but the parts I want are just to overpriced and I wont settle for something else those b350 motherboards are also overpriced for what they are, so much for ryzen being cheaper turns out they just match intel tier for tier B vs H & X vs Z as such im under no doubt both intel and amd are loosing sales.

Edited By: revolver31 on Apr 19, 2017 13:13
I just don't see who this card is aimed at and why would you buy it over a 470/480 1060 if you were looking to upgrade from an older card
its current draw is almost twice that of a 1060..for what?
Increased clock speeds, unlocked compute units.

Still a good deal, but I can't see any reason to buy this if you already own an RX 470/480.
This "deal" is hilarious considering gtx 1070 deal was 299 with 2 games
didn't they increase the memory clocks?
Becoz they cant , they're already stretching the power limits/heat limits and it allows the 6xx cards to have faster gddr5x or HBM2(less likely).
BUT hey the fans are more in sync than they have ever been before

Edited By: GwanGy on Apr 19, 2017 02:47
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AMD FX 8350 Black Edition £112.08 At Amazon

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My first deal so go easy. Seems to be the cheapest they have been for a bit, about time really with the new Ryzen chips out. Anyway thought it might be handy for anyone like me with an old FX6100 Read More
My first deal so go easy. Seems to be the cheapest they have been for a bit, about time really with the new Ryzen chips out. Anyway thought it might be handy for anyone like me with an old FX6100
Zephid Avatar1w, 4d agoFound 1 week, 4 days ago12 Comments
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I bought this 5 years ago in my first year of A Levels, for cheaper than this, albeit only by a couple of quid. How is it holding its value so well??
somy69pk
Heat for this proceasor. 965 and 995 black editions cant match this one i have used both..Its still one of the top processors AMD evwr peoduced
Well, that's obviously easy for you to say.
I wouldn't pay this much for an FX8350, if you do want this CPU I'd suggest looking at Ebay for listings under £100.

Even if you are already on the AM3+ platform it's not worth buying a brand new AM3 processor, used however, sure.
The 8350 is a good CPU....I have two running in machines and they've been quick and reliable. Unfortunately they're certainly outdated when compared to some more modern processors in some regards, but they're still good enough that it's not financially worth replacing them. I'd give this deal some warmth rather than heat, but as that's not possible, heat it is!
I believe the FX8320e is a decent substitute for this and consumes a far lower wattage. Some users claim it's easily clocked to match this cpu for less cash.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-FX-8320E-3-20GHz-Technology-Balanced/dp/B00MUTWEM6/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1492571041&sr=1-1&keywords=AMD+FX+8350e
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Sapphire AMD RX 580 8GB Graphics card £219.98 at Scan

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AMD's brand new RX 580 graphics card with 8GB of VRAM for the same price, if not less than last years RX 480. With of course some performance increase. Cheapest price I've seen for a RX 580 8GB Off… Read More
AMD's brand new RX 580 graphics card with 8GB of VRAM for the same price, if not less than last years RX 480. With of course some performance increase. Cheapest price I've seen for a RX 580 8GB Off…
WalkableBuffalo Avatar1w, 4d agoFound 1 week, 4 days ago42 Comments
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The_Hoff
BetaRomeo
The_Hoff
BetaRomeo
The_Hoff
BetaRomeo
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Salfordgirl1
Only about 5-10% quicker than a 480.
According to which benchmark may I ask? From what I heard, it has a huge improvement. Is the 5-10% is 1 single game that's unoptimised?
Some places aren't even getting 5-10% on average:
Anandtech
Relative to the RX 480 and RX 470 then, the performance gains we’re seeing with the RX 580 and RX 570 are nothing spectacular, but then AMD has kept their promises similarly small. In practice this means that the RX 580 is only averaging 3% faster than the RX 480 it replaces in AMD’s product stack
Note that the benchmark pic in the deal is comparing a factory-overclocked 580 with a stock 480. ;)
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Plus/images/witcher3_1920_1080.pnghttps://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/images/witcher3_1920_1080.png
The difference between AIB 480/580 is 5fps in this instance, not hugely significant but welcome.
Huh, you make a good point. The 6GB 1060 gives an extra 3.5FPS over the 580, and is £5 cheaper. Yes, definitely - the 6GB 1060 does make a lot more sense than the 580 at these prices.
Try again, it appears you can't read a simple bar chart.
Oops, you're quite right - I was mistakenly comparing the 1060 with the aftermarket 480, not the 580! :| That's what I get for commenting without coffee!
They should have called it a 485 in fairness, small uplift for 20% TDP increase is fairly pointless, but if you're buying a new system/card I appreciate the need to differentiate the refined product from the original.
Totally Agree, the fact AMD have crammed full fat Polaris in a Xbox APU makes the 580 incremental performance upgrade DOA!
BetaRomeo
The_Hoff
BetaRomeo
The_Hoff
BetaRomeo
akramfaisal
Salfordgirl1
Only about 5-10% quicker than a 480.
According to which benchmark may I ask? From what I heard, it has a huge improvement. Is the 5-10% is 1 single game that's unoptimised?
Some places aren't even getting 5-10% on average:
Anandtech
Relative to the RX 480 and RX 470 then, the performance gains we’re seeing with the RX 580 and RX 570 are nothing spectacular, but then AMD has kept their promises similarly small. In practice this means that the RX 580 is only averaging 3% faster than the RX 480 it replaces in AMD’s product stack
Note that the benchmark pic in the deal is comparing a factory-overclocked 580 with a stock 480. ;)
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Plus/images/witcher3_1920_1080.pnghttps://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/images/witcher3_1920_1080.png
The difference between AIB 480/580 is 5fps in this instance, not hugely significant but welcome.
Huh, you make a good point. The 6GB 1060 gives an extra 3.5FPS over the 580, and is £5 cheaper. Yes, definitely - the 6GB 1060 does make a lot more sense than the 580 at these prices.
Try again, it appears you can't read a simple bar chart.
Oops, you're quite right - I was mistakenly comparing the 1060 with the aftermarket 480, not the 580! :| That's what I get for commenting without coffee!

They should have called it a 485 in fairness, small uplift for 20% TDP increase is fairly pointless, but if you're buying a new system/card I appreciate the need to differentiate the refined product from the original.
The_Hoff
BetaRomeo
The_Hoff
BetaRomeo
akramfaisal
Salfordgirl1
Only about 5-10% quicker than a 480.
According to which benchmark may I ask? From what I heard, it has a huge improvement. Is the 5-10% is 1 single game that's unoptimised?
Some places aren't even getting 5-10% on average:
Anandtech
Relative to the RX 480 and RX 470 then, the performance gains we’re seeing with the RX 580 and RX 570 are nothing spectacular, but then AMD has kept their promises similarly small. In practice this means that the RX 580 is only averaging 3% faster than the RX 480 it replaces in AMD’s product stack
Note that the benchmark pic in the deal is comparing a factory-overclocked 580 with a stock 480. ;)
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Plus/images/witcher3_1920_1080.pnghttps://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/images/witcher3_1920_1080.png
The difference between AIB 480/580 is 5fps in this instance, not hugely significant but welcome.
Huh, you make a good point. The 6GB 1060 gives an extra 3.5FPS over the 580, and is £5 cheaper. Yes, definitely - the 6GB 1060 does make a lot more sense than the 580 at these prices.
Try again, it appears you can't read a simple bar chart.
Oops, you're quite right - I was mistakenly comparing the 1060 with the aftermarket 480, not the 580! :| That's what I get for commenting without coffee!
BetaRomeo
The_Hoff
BetaRomeo
akramfaisal
Salfordgirl1
Only about 5-10% quicker than a 480.
According to which benchmark may I ask? From what I heard, it has a huge improvement. Is the 5-10% is 1 single game that's unoptimised?
Some places aren't even getting 5-10% on average:
Anandtech
Relative to the RX 480 and RX 470 then, the performance gains we’re seeing with the RX 580 and RX 570 are nothing spectacular, but then AMD has kept their promises similarly small. In practice this means that the RX 580 is only averaging 3% faster than the RX 480 it replaces in AMD’s product stack
Note that the benchmark pic in the deal is comparing a factory-overclocked 580 with a stock 480. ;)
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Plus/images/witcher3_1920_1080.pnghttps://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/images/witcher3_1920_1080.png
The difference between AIB 480/580 is 5fps in this instance, not hugely significant but welcome.
Huh, you make a good point. The 6GB 1060 gives an extra 3.5FPS over the 580, and is £5 cheaper. Yes, definitely - the 6GB 1060 does make a lot more sense than the 580 at these prices.

Try again, it appears you can't read a simple bar chart.
The_Hoff
BetaRomeo
akramfaisal
Salfordgirl1
Only about 5-10% quicker than a 480.
According to which benchmark may I ask? From what I heard, it has a huge improvement. Is the 5-10% is 1 single game that's unoptimised?
Some places aren't even getting 5-10% on average:
Anandtech
Relative to the RX 480 and RX 470 then, the performance gains we’re seeing with the RX 580 and RX 570 are nothing spectacular, but then AMD has kept their promises similarly small. In practice this means that the RX 580 is only averaging 3% faster than the RX 480 it replaces in AMD’s product stack
Note that the benchmark pic in the deal is comparing a factory-overclocked 580 with a stock 480. ;)
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Plus/images/witcher3_1920_1080.pnghttps://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/images/witcher3_1920_1080.png
The difference between AIB 480/580 is 5fps in this instance, not hugely significant but welcome.
Huh, you make a good point. The 6GB 1060 gives an extra 3.5FPS over the 580, and is £5 cheaper. Yes, definitely - the 6GB 1060 does make a lot more sense than the 580 at these prices.

Edit: that's no 580... that's a 480!

Edited By: BetaRomeo on Apr 19, 2017 11:47: It appears I can't read a simple bar chart.
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Asus AMD PRIME B350-PLUS AM4 Socket ATX Motherboard £87.99 @ ebuyer

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Asus AMD PRIME B350-PLUS AM4 Socket ATX Motherboard Perfect for your new Ryzen, well reviewed http://www.toptengamer.com/best-budget-b350-motherboards/ As per coment below 50p cheaper at Ama… Read More
Asus AMD PRIME B350-PLUS AM4 Socket ATX Motherboard Perfect for your new Ryzen, well reviewed http://www.toptengamer.com/best-budget-b350-motherboards/ As per coment below 50p cheaper at Ama…
k31ron Avatar1w, 6d agoFound 1 week, 6 days ago6 Comments
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do enought games support sli crossfire
malachi
Dame, shame its not SLI too. Still have some heat!

You can get the Asus Prime X370-Pro for £130 from Amazon.it if you need SLI but don't want to spend a small fortune.
malachi
Dame, shame its not SLI too. Still have some heat!


B350 don't have SLI unfortunately, gotta go for the more expensive X370
Dame, shame its not SLI too. Still have some heat!
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Zoostorm Evolve AMD A10 16GB 2TB Desktop PC - £499.00 @ Argos

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16gb, 2 TB AND an AMD 7860k processor.. and all for 500 notes! Comes with keyboard and mouse too! Read More
16gb, 2 TB AND an AMD 7860k processor.. and all for 500 notes! Comes with keyboard and mouse too!
rob252 Avatar2w, 22h agoFound 2 weeks, 22 hours ago5 Comments
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For £400 you can build a PC twice as good.
Can you buy a course of hair loss treatment for 400 quid?

Not sure it'd be bad investment though cause i take steroids. It'd just be a waste.
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ritchiedrama
For £400 you can build a PC twice as good.
Can you buy a course of hair loss treatment for 400 quid?
For £400 you can build a PC twice as good.
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Asus AMD DUAL-RX 480-O8G 8gb Graphics Card at Box.co.uk for £185.99

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I know there were a few deals around this price a few weeks back, but prices seem to have shot up again. £220 on Amazon. Free p&p - ordered mine Thursday morning and it arrived today (weirdly). Read More
I know there were a few deals around this price a few weeks back, but prices seem to have shot up again. £220 on Amazon. Free p&p - ordered mine Thursday morning and it arrived today (weirdly).
livid_chimp Avatar2w, 2d agoFound 2 weeks, 2 days ago19 Comments
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I bought one of these from a another deal. It would regularly lock up under load. Asus did not reply. The vendor told me there was a batch fault with many of these cards and gave me a refund.
I had the same issue - went into Wattman and increased power by 25%. Worked flawlessly with the latest drivers since. Worried me at first but very happy now!
Interesting. How did you know to do this?

From a post on another RX480 deal by a fellow HUKDer. Reading up there's a lot on the web about the card not getting sufficient power in order to comply with the manufacturer's rated power draw - this seems to have fixed it. Had a few hours on GTAV, Shadow of Mordor etc with no probs, temps stay below 80c.

Edited By: livid_chimp on Apr 27, 2017 13:05
livid_chimp
neik
I bought one of these from a another deal. It would regularly lock up under load. Asus did not reply. The vendor told me there was a batch fault with many of these cards and gave me a refund.

I had the same issue - went into Wattman and increased power by 25%. Worked flawlessly with the latest drivers since. Worried me at first but very happy now!


Interesting. How did you know to do this?
neik
I bought one of these from a another deal. It would regularly lock up under load. Asus did not reply. The vendor told me there was a batch fault with many of these cards and gave me a refund.

I had the same issue - went into Wattman and increased power by 25%. Worked flawlessly with the latest drivers since. Worried me at first but very happy now!
I bought one of these from a another deal. It would regularly lock up under load. Asus did not reply. The vendor told me there was a batch fault with many of these cards and gave me a refund.
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HP 255 G5 AMD Laptop Z3A60ES [8GB RAM + 256GB SSD+ AMD A6-7310] £334.97 @ Ebuyer

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Processor AMD A6-7310 Quad Core 2.0GHz, 2MB Cache, 2.4GHz Turbo Frequency Memory 8GB (DDR3 1600MHZ) Hard Drive 256GB SSD Optical Drive DVD Writer I'm looking for a laptop £450 or u… Read More
Processor AMD A6-7310 Quad Core 2.0GHz, 2MB Cache, 2.4GHz Turbo Frequency Memory 8GB (DDR3 1600MHZ) Hard Drive 256GB SSD Optical Drive DVD Writer I'm looking for a laptop £450 or u…
dudea729 Avatar2w, 4d agoFound 2 weeks, 4 days ago2 Comments
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The SSD compensates for an OK CPU. I think this is a good value budget laptop with VGA and HDMI connects. The only reason people will vote -ve is for the resolution.
Decent price for what it is. :{
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AMD Ryzen 5 1600 S 65 W AM4 Six Core 16 MB Cache CPU with Wraith Spire Cooler @ Amazon.co.uk for £205.50

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Normally £220, £15 cheaper than everywhere else! Review links: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/official-ocuk-amd-ryzen-5-review-thread.18775905/ Read More
Normally £220, £15 cheaper than everywhere else! Review links: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/official-ocuk-amd-ryzen-5-review-thread.18775905/
ShroomHeadToad Avatar2w, 4d agoFound 2 weeks, 4 days ago49 Comments
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BigP50000
i was thinking of getting the 1600 but truly only for surfing/gaming a quad core does the job...i wish pc's were optimized like consoles to push games at using full 6/8 cores but i guess it is what it is as the consoles were built for that reason only for perfect gaming experience

I wouldn't say consoles were a perfect gaming experience (as an XB1 owner), if you want to run 720p-900p in 30fps they're pretty perfect though :)
i was thinking of getting the 1600 but truly only for surfing/gaming a quad core does the job...i wish pc's were optimized like consoles to push games at using full 6/8 cores but i guess it is what it is as the consoles were built for that reason only for perfect gaming experience

Edited By: BigP50000 on Apr 12, 2017 14:11
I wouldn't use Alza personally, for the sake of £10. CCL with 1% Quidco is not much more expensive.

Edited By: The_Hoff on Apr 12, 2017 12:23
for those who have said ryzen was rushed out - it wasn't. live versions of the b350 class mobos where out in 2016. What ever was the cause of the delay it allowed amd to do another respin of ryzen and bump it up to 3.6ghz.

Gaming on the ryzen should get better and better as new games come onto the market
BigP50000
I found the Ryzen 1600 at the same site (based in Czech Republic) for £206.90 here, tried to submit the deal but the site is not approved by HUKD so got automatically removed.

You can get a free £5 discount code for signing up to their newsletter.
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AMD Ryzen 7 1700 with Wraith Spire HSF £285.92 delivered using voucher code @ LaptopsDirect

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gupsterg Avatar3w, 2d agoFound 3 weeks, 2 days ago74 Comments
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Reviewers are being a bit too harsh on Ryzen with the gaming benchmarks. It's like a mere 2-6 FPS difference between Ryzen and Inte;s 7600K in performance on games. Ryzen otherwise beats intels offerings in other non gaming benchmarks though like video editing and number crunching stuff.
If something is £80 cheaper and gives more FPS i'm sure going for that.

you'll be wanting a Ryzen R5 of some description then. I recommend a 1500X. i5 prices, 6 cores.
also - anyone quoting warhammer total war scores, should check if the benchmark includes the "bretonnia" patch as that was basically the "ryzen fix" patch. Not a night and day difference but it closed the gap a good bit.

Edited By: mercutio98uk on Apr 18, 2017 02:56
Gkains
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quite interested by this chip! about 10 years ago i invested in one of the (then new) dual core x2 4400 chips, and that desktop machine soldiered on for a fair few years before i moved to a newer laptop. Currently still running that laptop with a i7-2670QM processor. It is now however 5 years old, and the onboard 540m graphics are starting to show their age. How would i find the jump to an AMD Ryzen system such as this?
Clearly (hopefully!) it will be an improvement, but will it be the same kind of jump i experienced on my previous upgrade path?
Jumping from a laptop to a new desktop should make a fair difference - especially if your laptop doesn't have an SSD or enough memory. But your Sandy Bridge quad core i7 (even these days most i7 mobile chips are dual core) isn't that slow.
I guess it really depends on what you do. A octo-core processor like doesn't perform well with everything as not many program scale to so many cores since not everything can be broken down into parallel processes.
Really a question like this can only be answered by you reading reviews and trying to find benchmarks of program you use. Here are some sites which have benchmark databases but it's not always possible to compare everything:http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU (they won't let you compared an SB i7 to Ryzen as the Sandy Bridge results were run on with their old test suite under Win7 and the Ryzen ones with a new Win10 suite.)http://www.hardware.fr/articles/959-17/indices-performance.html
That scores the i7 2600K (which runs at base frequency of 3.4GHz vs your 2.2Ghz) 131.9 vs 254.0 for this Ryzen.https://www.ht4u.net/reviews/2017/amd_ryzen_7_reloaded_r7_1700_bis_1800x_erneut_im_test/index29.php
Where the i70-2600K scores 72% of the Ryzen 7 1700's speed in apps, but 90% in games.https://www.computerbase.de/thema/prozessor/rangliste/
There you can click on 'Bearbeiten' to check/unckeck individual tests.
Of course you should try and figure out what your mobile i7-2760QM scores compared to the desktop i7-2600K as well. Passmark gives the 2600K 8486 versus 6635 for the 2760QM so you could assume that in the above comparisons you CPU should have scored roughly 20% less.

Great response dude, much appreciated. Follow-on question : Are AMD architectures built to work more efficiently with AMD/ATI Cards vs Nvidia? Basically if i bought this Ryzen would you be better going for an AMD/ATI Card or stick with Nvidia. For the last 15 or so years ive pretty much been a Nvidia user so would probably want to stay that way unless there was significant performance issues
Riverghost
quite interested by this chip! about 10 years ago i invested in one of the (then new) dual core x2 4400 chips, and that desktop machine soldiered on for a fair few years before i moved to a newer laptop. Currently still running that laptop with a i7-2670QM processor. It is now however 5 years old, and the onboard 540m graphics are starting to show their age. How would i find the jump to an AMD Ryzen system such as this?
Clearly (hopefully!) it will be an improvement, but will it be the same kind of jump i experienced on my previous upgrade path?

Jumping from a laptop to a new desktop should make a fair difference - especially if your laptop doesn't have an SSD or enough memory. But your Sandy Bridge quad core i7 (even these days most i7 mobile chips are dual core) isn't that slow.

I guess it really depends on what you do. A octo-core processor like doesn't perform well with everything as not many program scale to so many cores since not everything can be broken down into parallel processes.

Really a question like this can only be answered by you reading reviews and trying to find benchmarks of program you use. Here are some sites which have benchmark databases but it's not always possible to compare everything:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU (they won't let you compared an SB i7 to Ryzen as the Sandy Bridge results were run on with their old test suite under Win7 and the Ryzen ones with a new Win10 suite.)

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/959-17/indices-performance.html
That scores the i7 2600K (which runs at base frequency of 3.4GHz vs your 2.2Ghz) 131.9 vs 254.0 for this Ryzen.

https://www.ht4u.net/reviews/2017/amd_ryzen_7_reloaded_r7_1700_bis_1800x_erneut_im_test/index29.php
Where the i70-2600K scores 72% of the Ryzen 7 1700's speed in apps, but 90% in games.

https://www.computerbase.de/thema/prozessor/rangliste/
There you can click on 'Bearbeiten' to check/unckeck individual tests.

Of course you should try and figure out what your mobile i7-2760QM scores compared to the desktop i7-2600K as well. Passmark gives the 2600K 8486 versus 6635 for the 2760QM so you could assume that in the above comparisons you CPU should have scored roughly 20% less.
quite interested by this chip! about 10 years ago i invested in one of the (then new) dual core x2 4400 chips, and that desktop machine soldiered on for a fair few years before i moved to a newer laptop. Currently still running that laptop with a i7-2670QM processor. It is now however 5 years old, and the onboard 540m graphics are starting to show their age. How would i find the jump to an AMD Ryzen system such as this?

Clearly (hopefully!) it will be an improvement, but will it be the same kind of jump i experienced on my previous upgrade path?
Nate1492
Keydogg
@Nate1492 - This is a video that explains to me why Ryzen will benefit many of us.
If you purely game with nothing else in the background then there is no comparison that Intel will win hands down, with somewhere between 10-20% higher average framerate (although there are plenty of people claiming the Ryzen games smoother because of it's increased 0.1% and 1% lows).
However, for people like me (who game with background apps such as Spotify, Twitch, OBS, multiple Chrome tabs), the Ryzen is the sensible choice because of it's superior multitasking. The i7 will always have higher performance with pure gaming, but the frames do start to drop (I'm not making any massive claims of by how much here) once you add other applications into the mix.
If you think Intel is better, great! Go buy Intel! I won't try to dissuade you. But also, if people want to buy Ryzen's for their own reasons (I'm moving from a [email protected] to a Ryzen 1700 because I stream while gaming) then leave them to it.
Remember also, competition is good for all of us, so I welcome AMD coming back into the mix as I'm certain Intel have purposely stifled their own progress in the last 5 years (but that's another story).
Right, this is a misconception actually, on a number of levels.
1) Background apps, such as spotify, twitch, and multiple chrome tabs are very light on CPU use. Multitasking doesn't lend itself to multiple cores, turns out when you are not actively using a something, it is very low CPU use. So, you are speculating, and I'm saying you are mostly wrong.
Now, where you have some reasonable accuracy is streaming/rendering video. Although, I would suggest you took a shotgun approach and hit the one thing the Ryzen would be good at. Streaming video (OBS) while playing, might bring Ryzen closer to the I7 7700k. But it might not either, it depends.
2) Ryzen hasn't shown to be better at .1% or 1% frames, so suggesting it's 'smoother' without any evidence to back it up is just 'this purchase was definitely worth it, I can 'feel' how much nicer it is' jumping in front of 'yeah, it's no different, I wasted 500 for the same experience'.
Competition is great, *good, source backed, information is even better*.
Making claims that are '*maybe true, who knows, you look it up*' is a bad way to help people.

Or, maybe he's talking some truth as discovered:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/659fna/double_standards_in_tech_journalism_can_you/

Edited By: The_Hoff on Apr 14, 2017 18:32: .
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AMD FX-9370 4.7GHz £121.26 (w/ 2 Free games) @ BT Shop

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LOL ... no chance at this price. rather have Ryzen cpu. currently have AM3+ Mobo & 8120 cpu.. wouldnt touch this with a barge pole.. Ryzen is more competitive :) this is worth £70 excluding games. then they might shift these AM3 CPUS + MOBO for £130 ;)
Looks like the only thing it can't heat up is this deal ;)
Can only realistically see this being a good deal for someone already on the AM3+ platform, and even then I wouldn't really recommend it..
maybe, only maybe, worth it at ~£100 especially if you want the games too but not at this price, too many BIG disadvantages and most average PCs would need better PSUs and cooling to deal with these chips....
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GIGABYTE AMD RX480 G1 Gaming 4 GB GDDR5 £158.99 @ Amazon

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Frogster8
Cold, card is priced at £192 now, should be marked expired
It's not a reason to vote cold. Mark it as expired then.
I did both, if something no longer exists then it isn't a hot deal either.
Frogster8
Cold, card is priced at £192 now, should be marked expired
It's not a reason to vote cold. Mark it as expired then.
Cold, card is priced at £192 now, should be marked expired
Quoth
matt101101
Quoth
Aria have this card on their daily deals at £144 + postage.
Only a handful in stock so didn't post as a separate deal.
They're banned (suspended?) on here anyway. No idea why, maybe someone else knows?
I didn't realise that. I've used them a few times without any issues.
Perhaps the daily deals with there very limited numbers were a contributing factor?
There's nothing wrong with them as far as I'm concerned, either.

I didn't even know they were banned/suspended until I tried to post a comment with a link to their site sometime in the past few days and it got edited by a mod. If I had to guess, I'd say they're probably banned for something petty like self promotion, as opposed to anything serious like not being legit.
Ballicom price today £202.07
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AMD FX-9590 Vishera 8-Core 4.7 GHz Socket AM3+ 220W CPU, £149.99 at amazon

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ritchiedrama
Literally no point ever buying this CPU. I can't even think of one reason why.
Only reason would be if you've already got an AM3 setup (with sufficient PSU and cooler) and this gives you the extra performance you need now which may make £149 better immediate value than switching to Intel or even Ryzen when you will also have to factor in new mboard + new DDR4.
There was really only one use for these and that is virtualisation (well and possible some media encoding as long as it's not AVX2 or FPU heavy). That is sometimes having 8 integer cores is useful. But for those of these usages, the 8320E is a far better value than this pre-overclocked processor. However, AM3+ is a totally dead socket.
Of course, 8+ core Ryzen or Intel HEDT perform a lot better that these tasks but even Ryzen 7 costs at least twice of this.

poison3k
You can get a g4xx for half the price which outperforms this cpu, for the same money you can pick up an i5 which is twice as good.
At single-threaded stuff? Sure, but for the two niche usage cases above (virtualisation and media encoding) 2C/4T is often not enough.
What's the best AMD cpu for purely desktop speed. As in internet browsing and office programs. No real graphics. For under £100?
This is in the wrong section .. should be in Household - heating - this is cheap for a heater of this power.. could use it in a greenhouse AND do some folding on the side...
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emlin
I think that I have one of these. Rubbish, and doesn't work with W10 anymore. Avoid.
Nonsense, although bad value but it works perfectly fine.
great in a htpc or just a SFF build that just needs multiple monitors (like a home office)
Had one in my media PC for years. Works perfect with Windows 10 and Plays my 1:1 Blu-Ray rips fine with HD audio.
toonarama
I need a card like this for my old HP microserver. I just want the cheapest price to provide HDMI out. Is this the cheapest option for a new card? What should I search for at CEX? I've just tried but without success. Thanks.
Well your search should be something like this: PCIe, in stock online (so the listed prices + £2.50 postage):
https://uk.webuy.com/search/index.php?sortOn=sellprice_asc&stext=*§ion=&catid=892&rad_which_stock=2
Then it's just a matter of finding something.
5450 and 6450 are £12.
Maybe the £15 GT630 (GPU unknown: can be GK107, GF108, or GK208 - you probably don't want the Ferni as its (unrealistic) TPU is 65W).
Or the £15 GT720 (GK208, 19W TPU).
The £18 Radeon 7570 (either Turks Pro if OEM or Cape Verde if retail).
Thing is you'll have to investigate those for their media features and driver compatibility.
I need a card like this for my old HP microserver. I just want the cheapest price to provide HDMI out. Is this the cheapest option for a new card? What should I search for at CEX? I've just tried but without success. Thanks.
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AMD Ryzen 7 1700 £299.99 @ Amazon.co.uk or OCuK

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Doogeh
tempt
AMD getting desparate to shift these duds.
duds? These processors are being touted as disruptive by just about all tech reviewers.
The only workload they don't stomp Intel at every price point is games, and it appears fixes are in the works.
Disruptive would mean that intel prices drop to compete, but have they? if intel havent dropped their prices, these are as disruptive as a fart in a hurricane.

These will be disruptive to the workstation 6900K and probably even general business computers. Ignoring gamers, I expect many businesses to go for the much cheaper Ryzen's than higher priced i7's.

Of course Intel won't and can't reduce prices until their sales are affected but they have already stated in their recent earnings call that cpu prices will be lower soon.

Intel expects CPU prices to fall now that AMD's Ryzen is here


Edited By: dark$ky on Apr 29, 2017 10:45
Nice find, looks like the Asrock board is a 3x2 phase design not a true 6 phase board, the 4 phase MSI B350M Mortar board for a few quid more @£89 might be the better bet, waiting for user reviews...

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Number of phases
The fact that more phases do not mean the same efficiency as the entire converter has been shown in the previous paragraph. Why do not we see only four phases on sinfully expensive circuit boards?
Because a higher number of phases have different advantages and are superior to the utility that at 1.45V and 100A at the output the FETs in the converter convert 10W instead of 11W into heat.

It is always necessary to differentiate between what is often called real phases (directly controlled by the PWM signal of the controller) and so-called doubled phases (realized by Doppler).
In this case, however, phases can also be doubled in two different ways: either Doppler is actually used, which provides two interleaved PWM signals for two phases, or the same PWM signal is simply used for two phases.
Several real phases have three positive effects: the controller can react more quickly to impulsive load changes with increasing number of PWM signals at the outputs. Furthermore, through several real phases, the maximum current at the output of the converter can be increased quite effectively and by interleaving the Residual ripple.

Doppler doubled phases bring only two of these advantages: to be able to provide more current at the output and to reduce the residual ripple.
If a manufacturer doubles by connecting two phases to a PWM signal, he can only achieve one of the advantages: the higher power ratings for the CPU.
A fundamental way to evaluate boards is not to bring this information with you - it is always case-specific to judge the sensibility and absurdity of the phase number.
ShroomHeadToad
That Asrock board looked like a 6+3 phase board.
You were correct.

Because someone posted a link to compiled table of all AM4 boards, and it's 6 for the CPU and 3 for the SOC (onboard chipset only, can't see that ever needing that much power):
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardwareluxx.de%2Fcommunity%2Ff12%2Fam4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html&edit-text=&act=url
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bouncy99
Disruptive would mean that intel prices drop to compete, but have they? if intel havent dropped their prices, these are as disruptive as a fart in a hurricane.
Well, Ryzen 5 hasn't launched yet so while this makes I7 6800/6850/6900 and mostly the i7-7700K look bad the £300+ CPU market is small.
It's possible that Intel will not lower prices but surely then they will suffer a marketshare loss.
What I always find very strange is the amount of people willing to irrationally defend Intel and their monopolistic and anti-consumer practices rather than welcoming a return to competition. It's almost like they are members of some fanclub or are shareholders. On the Anadtech forums there even is/was (a bit silent ATM) a poster who kept insisting that competition was bad for innovation as it splits the available R&B budget. Unbelievable!

The R&B budget ? never been a fan myself, more a rock kind of guy :P
Hi Guys, i've removed a few comments. Lets not let this thread get out of hand and turn into an argument.
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Dont recommend flubit. Just got sent an used cpu. Overclockers are great.go the 4gb version delivered yesterday and it ia perfect. Be careful with this model as I had from awd it and it was faulty.


I know what you mean, them and Fireworks Direct messed me about for a couple of MONTHS when my Logitech Z506s died after a couple of hours of use so I'll find it hard to trust then again :|
£199.99 now so expired
most of the review FPS I have seen have the AMD 480 ahead of the 1060
Not super hot, but pretty hot.

If you wait until early April, the RX500 series re-spin will be out with rumours of it being more efficient and slight higher clocks.

With recent driver improvements they're on par with a 1060 6Gb, uses more power mind.
Dont recommend flubit. Just got sent an used cpu. Overclockers are great.go the 4gb version delivered yesterday and it ia perfect. Be careful with this model as I had from awd it and it was faulty.
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Gigabyte AX370-GAMING 5 (AMD Ryzen) ATX Motherboard Socket AM4 £196.99 @ AWD-IT in STOCK!

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The CPU technology really changed in the last 4 years. ^^
larrythelamb
hitman007
It's a comparison. ^^
larrythelamb
revolver31
hitman007
b350 more cost effective?
Better money wise yet but bottom of the barrel Chinese components, and not even worth the £100 just ask any electrical engineer friend of family member, they'll give you the heads up, it's the same with all boards made last few gens now just cheap crap with flash vanity attachments that's why failure rates are so high, asus msi, gigabyte etc are to blame here not so much intel or amd just greedy board manufacturers, my advice by used z97 or maybe find a decent z170 used but there failure rate was high.
Z97 and Z170 aren't even AM4 boards. What a bizarre comment? Heat added.
Ok, so to translate "buy a different board altogether to go with your completely different intel processor". Heat still added for this deal unless you want old technology.
hitman007
It's a comparison. ^^
larrythelamb
revolver31
hitman007
b350 more cost effective?
Better money wise yet but bottom of the barrel Chinese components, and not even worth the £100 just ask any electrical engineer friend of family member, they'll give you the heads up, it's the same with all boards made last few gens now just cheap crap with flash vanity attachments that's why failure rates are so high, asus msi, gigabyte etc are to blame here not so much intel or amd just greedy board manufacturers, my advice by used z97 or maybe find a decent z170 used but there failure rate was high.
Z97 and Z170 aren't even AM4 boards. What a bizarre comment? Heat added.

Ok, so to translate "buy a different board altogether to go with your completely different intel processor". Heat still added for this deal unless you want old technology.
It's a comparison. ^^
larrythelamb
revolver31
hitman007
b350 more cost effective?
Better money wise yet but bottom of the barrel Chinese components, and not even worth the £100 just ask any electrical engineer friend of family member, they'll give you the heads up, it's the same with all boards made last few gens now just cheap crap with flash vanity attachments that's why failure rates are so high, asus msi, gigabyte etc are to blame here not so much intel or amd just greedy board manufacturers, my advice by used z97 or maybe find a decent z170 used but there failure rate was high.
Z97 and Z170 aren't even AM4 boards. What a bizarre comment? Heat added.
revolver31
hitman007
b350 more cost effective?
Better money wise yet but bottom of the barrel Chinese components, and not even worth the £100 just ask any electrical engineer friend of family member, they'll give you the heads up, it's the same with all boards made last few gens now just cheap crap with flash vanity attachments that's why failure rates are so high, asus msi, gigabyte etc are to blame here not so much intel or amd just greedy board manufacturers, my advice by used z97 or maybe find a decent z170 used but there failure rate was high.

Z97 and Z170 aren't even AM4 boards. What a bizarre comment? Heat added.
Whilst I agree with some of the comments pointed out about boards being overly expensive due to the use of 'bling' on them, there is a great deal more in terms of value add to try and compete with each other. Look at the integration of much better sound chips, these come at a cost, along with up-gradable amplifier modules, things like 5Gbps networking IC's and then the there is the addition of Wi-FI and other such addons, again these all odd physical and licensing costs.

Yes, some of the board manufacturers are taking the pee slightly, but now that there is some competition between the two largest CPU manufacturers again, then there will be competition to price motherboards more aggressively.

With regards to reliability, I would be surprised if there was a much larger than normal failure rate out of the box than that of any previous generations released, and much of that would be early batch (beta) issues, or BIOS problems rather than complete duff boards.
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They have sorted out the heat problem with a bios upgrade.
This is a good deal but (there's always a but) with the 580 due within the next 2 months, this 480 is a hard sell, especially if the 8GB 580 does indeed come in at rumoured prices of £180 and with lower power and heat as well.
rav4cas
The 8gb Gigabyte model is £80+ more, or a ASUS 8GB for £30 more.
Where's this ASUS GPU?

Never mind, found it https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-radeon-rx-480-dual-oc-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-40v-as.html

Edited By: Alvie on Mar 21, 2017 17:43
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minmanas
Soon will pair something new with my old timer Q9550 :D

I only replaced mine about a month or two ago, stunning chip given it's about ten years old!


I know, been runing it now just for over a year swaped/oc'd from e8500, just for day to day basics was no point doing new build. Done some little up's for old timer nd its good to go another decade :D
BigDiscovery
minmanas
Soon will pair something new with my old timer Q9550 :D
I tried Xeon equivalent E5440 with GTX 1050 (non Ti card), and E5440 would bottleneck the card in Fallout 4. The Witcher 3, GTA V and so on. So RX 480 is total overkill. IMO GTX 750TI, RX460, maybe GTX 950 is best to pair with that CPU.
Cool chip though, cheapest on ebay at the moment - £35, I recently bought i5 3470 for £50, lol.


Well im with u about overkilling with 480, was thinking not less then 470 or 1050ti. I need mainly for 1080p so lover then that its like wast of money. Had 460 on my mind but would be waste aswell :) will see :)
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Ignore the intel shills, why would you wait for a r5 quad core, when this is a 8c/16t...
Yes, ignore all those Intel shills recommending that people wait to get a different AMD CPU instead...
Great cpu, easily overclock to match 1800x. Ignore the intel shills, why would you wait for a r5 quad core, when this is a 8c/16t...This is the best price if you have compatible parts. I recommend a Taichi motherboard with Corsair LPX Black 3200mhz ddr4. Works straight out the box.
As well as motherboard availability issues that will take about another 4 weeks to resolve
While the price is decent, unless you're desperate for a new PC, I'd wait a a few more weeks for the Ryzen R5 series which will include the 4 and 6 core CPUs.

There are also a lot of motherboard and DDR4 memory compatibility issues right now which gives more reason to wait until these are ironed out.

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That tubing doesn't look appealing at all.
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BEWARE!!!My security settings are good enough to capture this kind of thing :
Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information from go.skimlinks.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID
This server could not prove that it is go.skimlinks.com; its security certificate is from go.redirectingat.com. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. Learn more. Proceed to go.skimlinks.com (unsafe)
Scary stuff guys!oO
Where did you get that error from?
Anyway, it is go.skimlinks.com that has its SSL certificate's common name as go.redirectingat.com - it looks like a random ad that has incorrect SSL, who cares :p
BEWARE!!!

My security settings are good enough to capture this kind of thing :

Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information from go.skimlinks.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID

This server could not prove that it is go.skimlinks.com; its security certificate is from go.redirectingat.com. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. Learn more. Proceed to go.skimlinks.com (unsafe)

Scary stuff guys!oO
I was given one of these. It spent 15 minutes in my system. Terrible temperatures and noise compared to my noctua dh15.
Also though do you think it'll be good temps for a overclock on ryzen ?

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AMD Ryzen 7 1700X CPU - 3.8GHz £299.14 + £5.48 Shipping @ Amazon.fr £304.62

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Wow, it's dropped down to 349.99 Euros again! So £299.33 + £5.48 Shipping @ Amazon.fr £304.81 ;)
Back down from 410 to 359.90 Euros, which equates to £308.46 + £5.48 Shipping @ Amazon.fr £313.94 :)
tempt
At this price, why would anyone go for a 1700?
I guess people just wanting to get the Wraith Spire cooler that's included, the basic 1700 should do mininum 3.9GHz. 1700X back up to 389.99 Euros for now, will probally drop again soon.
At this price, why would anyone go for a 1700?
Price down to 349.99 Euros now! So around £302.66 oO

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lol, a penny sub £190, thats desperation. garbage amd gpu's.
Thanks for adding your 2 cents. In my honest opinion there aren't enough useless comments from teenage hardware fan-boys on the internet already.
was actually a penny, not 2 cents. Go play Counter Stike Go on your RX480 ;)
bouncy99
lol, a penny sub £190, thats desperation. garbage amd gpu's.
Thanks for adding your 2 cents. In my honest opinion there aren't enough useless comments from teenage hardware fan-boys on the internet already.
lol, a penny sub £190, thats desperation. garbage amd gpu's.
Sub 190? Gtfo
Plenty of 8GB 480s have popped up recently for less than £190.
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Acer Aspire ES 15.6 Inch AMD E1 4GB 1TB Laptop - From the Argos Shop on ebay - £184.99

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It might be a good price, but the build quality on Acer laptops is shocking.
I had an Acer Aspire for less than 2 years before I had countless problems with it. Replaced the fan twice , the AC jack stopped working , all the plastic snapped off where the screws went into holding the laptop together, ended up binning it in the end!
I have a Dell inspiron now and not had a single problem with it. Steer well clear of Acer.
Don't bother, the AMD E1 is barely more powerful than an abacus.
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Actually, this CPU is as fast as the Pentium G4560 (I think), so might be a cheaper alternative to that platform
Not too bad, this with a second hand £35 mobo.. stick some cheapo ram....
but tbh, probably better just being a pre-built 5 year old machine from ebay for £100..
At least this CPU is Excavator though, probably take this over the 860k
As much as I'm an AMD fan boy, even at this price I'd look at a modern alternative
JimBobJr
Still a good price for this slightly older but still capable chip. Not to mention cheaper motherboards too

The integrated graphics are disabled on these Athlon-branded models though, so £20 cheaper on the CPU and £10 cheaper on the motherboard may not save you anything if you don't already have a spare graphics card.

Plus it's DDR3-only so memory upgrades will be more expensive in future and any budget graphics card isn't going to have the latest features that integrated graphics will offer like a HEVC encoder.

It was worth posting at this price and may be of interest to some but a G4560 is going to be a better choice generally.
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i got a refurb dell t7500 (t5500 is smaller and should have got) for 160 from ebay. xeon e5630 processor which has passmark 4500 ish and 12 gb of ram. potential to upgrade to faster xeon and had massive psu for twin graphics in future. so lots of refurb bargains on ebay but this has amazon backing... wonder what max cpu upgrade is?
2220 passmark. so a weaker i3. can get refurb i3 on ebay for 110 to 120 and maybe i5 for this price. but here you have amazon guarantee. eould check psu but cpu bottlenecked by anything over a gtx 750ti anyhow? this plusb750ti for say 75 quid will do you 1080p gaming on low settings or maybe 720p 60fps maxed out.
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I love my Fury X, paid full price for one last year.

However in the here and now, don't consider purchasing one for more than £300 new or £250 used. Frankly for more than that there are better value options out there beyond that price point.


Edited By: adderrson on Mar 15, 2017 15:27
as much as I love AMD. you are better off with a 1070. more VRAM newer architecture. cheaper
I love my Fury X, but this is waayy to expensive. For £250 a Fury X is brilliant, but only for 1440p or higher resolutions. Freesync is a big plus, mind.

If you aren't in the above niche, Buy a RX480 for 1080p or a GTX 1070 if you have £330 to spend.
kkane_irl
Absolutely no point buying AMDs current "high end" graphics cards when they'll be releasing their new range in a few months.

Agreed. I have a Fury, but there's no point in getting anything other than a 480 at this moment from an AMD perspective (new).
You would have to be crazy to spend this kind of money on that gpu.
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Nice Amazon refund hehe


What do you mean? Get a refund for the item? Their strict and smart, they know if its arrived so you cant say its not arrived
If you say its broke they say send it back
Nobull
bouncy99
The card in this "deal" is garbage compared to a 1060, which i admit is pricier than the rx480, but its beaten by the low end of Nvidia's line up.
This is just pure misinformation. The 1060 and 480 now tie on average in DX11 and the 1060 loses by 6+% in DX12 titles:http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review-23.htmlhttp://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/GPU/GTX-1060-UPDATE/GTX-1060-UPDATE-101.jpg
That's not quite accurate. Firstly, that's the only source for the 480 now matching/beating the 1060 - a similar article a few weeks later had the 480 still slightly behind the 1060, so we can take it that the 480 has closed a lot of the gap, but relying on a single source to say the 480 is now faster is a bit... optimistic, shall we say?

Except... notice what CPU those tests are using. I doubt many gamers pair a £150 card with a £300+ i7 CPU, which is what you'd need to get those results. If you can find comparisons of the 480 and 1060 using i5s and i3s, you can see how the 1060 doesn't drop in performance as much as the 480 does when paired with a weaker CPU. So, while it's fair to say that the 480 has closed the gap on i7 systems, it's wrong of you to assume that carries across to all systems ("pure misinformation", one might say ;)).

Here, don't take my word for it:
Eurogamer
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare runs faster on AMD's RX 480, compared to its Nvidia rival, the GTX 1060. It's an advantage that plays out consistently, as you can see in our Infinite Warfare PC performance analysis. But here's the thing: running these GPUs with an i7 - as we did above - essentially offers something akin to a bottomless pit of CPU power, and the balance of power between the green and red teams changes rapidly when you pair each GPU with a less capable processor, like the Pentium G4560 we're reviewing here.

And you can see that in the shot below, taken mere seconds later. As soon as the action intensifies, the RX 480 suddenly loses a lot of performance. Minimum frame-rate actually hits 45fps in our tests - 20fps lower than the GTX 1060. And that's important when choosing a graphics card to pair with a less capable CPU. AMD's DirectX 11 driver lacks multi-threading capabilities and is significantly less optimal than Nvidia's, meaning that when the CPU is taxed, certain titles lost a lot of performance (and we stress, not all games exhibit the issue, but you have no guarantee which titles will be affected and which are fine).

And if you're looking at putting together a Steam Machine, or using Linux, the 1060 clearly annihilates the 480, of course.

All that said, £156 is a great price for the 4GB 480. It's a budget card, and that 4GB may well be exhausted this year, but it's going to be an excellent purchase for someone with a decent CPU who only uses Windows and has a fairly strict £150 budget. In that case, it's definitely better value for money than the £210 6GB 1060.
bouncy99
we shall see.
Yep, I think by the time the R5s are released they could be a very good choice. Bugs will likely be ironed out and they should offer very good price/performance ratio. I'd imagine with slightly higher clocks and a bit of optimisation they will match similarly priced Intel chips in gaming but blow them out of the water for anything multithreaded. I plan to get an R5 for my next build (think 6 core may be the sweet spot) *if* they iron out the issues. But new architectures usually have some teething problems. Personally, I'd rather support the underdog, provided I get best price/performance ratio I can within my budget, as I think it's better for the industry.
Nobull
bouncy99
and currently, amd can beat a 1070 with what? or a 1080 with what? amd cards are currently garbage. lets see what vega brings.
Completely agree...I'm no AMD fanboi, but your comment was incorrect re the 1060 vs 480. AMD have been far too late to market with Vega and have surrendered the high end to Nvidia for a whole generation...but needs must. They invested so much in Ryzen and they have such a limited budget compared to Nvidia and Intel and fight on two fronts. We all should pray they do well with both Ryzen and Vega to introduce healthy competition. Vega, with HBM2 and biggest redesign since the original GCN (apparently) could be a big step forward for AMD but I really feel they can't simply be matching the 10 series of Nvidia, they have to be beating them 15-20% and be competitive with Volta at a lower price point.
Totally agree, unfortunately it appears ryzen may be a flop in gaming performance, according to some early reports. They are blaming a lack of optimisation for their product, so we shall see.
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The PS4 kicks the Xbox One's ass. It's superior in every way.

Wait...is this the wrong thread?
fma965801
matt101101
Furthermore, AMD could offer the CPU and GPU on one chip, an APU (something neither Intel or NVIDIA could offer)
Um what... Intel have graphics on there CPU's aswell.
AMD are planning a APU later in the year. Late 2017 Zen APU for Mobile. With a APU Desktop in 2018.

http://www.eteknix.com/amd-roadmap-details-raven-ridge-apus-and-pinnacle-ridge-cpus/

Reality is anyone buying a R7 1700 or 1800x would not do so to just buy a budget graphics option. Why spend £300-500 on a CPU if you plan to spend £60-£80 on a graphics card. Makes no sense if building a gaming machine.

Make no mistake to get a 52% improvement Per Core on a new CPU is almost unheard of. Huge leap.
For the TDP, number of cores and price performance AMD will do really well here. Sure compared to i7700k they are behind but piledriver chips were much, much slower.

Sure 7700k will beat AMD today on most games but this AM4 platform could be around for 3 years. Meaning you could slot in a upgraded CPU in 3 years time. Also for me any computer I buy today I would expect to last me 9-10 years. Personally I am happy to wait for the R5 figures.

Long term if I wanted to keep a PC for 8-10 years I would probably want 6-8 cores now. My current rig has 2 cores and that was 10 years back. I think software from gaming firms will start to use more and more core. Just like graphics cards will too with ram on graphics now up to 8gb.

http://wccftech.com/amds-vega-doubles-usable-graphics-memory/

Playstation and Xbox use Jaguar AMD graphics.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-xbox-one-project-scorpio-spec-analysis

Be interesting to see if these upgrade to Zen in due course with a lower TDP. Even a ZEN APU?

Wait and see here. Still wonder if AMD and Intel may still drop prices here.
fma965801
matt101101
Furthermore, AMD could offer the CPU and GPU on one chip, an APU (something neither Intel or NVIDIA could offer)
Um what... Intel have graphics on there CPU's aswell.
Not graphics which can play AAA games at 1080p/900p @ ~30fps with something resembling decent settings, which is what is required from both the PS4 and Xbox One.

Even if some of their higher end Iris graphics are theoretically capable of it in 2017 (and I'm not sure if they are), they certainly weren't back in the early 2010s (remember, a Sandy Bridge i7-2600k from 2011 only had Intel's HD 3000 graphics) when the PS4 and Xbox One would have been being designed.
matt101101
Furthermore, AMD could offer the CPU and GPU on one chip, an APU (something neither Intel or NVIDIA could offer)

Um what... Intel have graphics on there CPU's aswell.
Ryzen R5 range coming out on the 11th April, with 6c/12t from about £220, and with the full 16MB cache of the 8c parts, completely multi unlocked and with a decent cooler! :)
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how do you install games and apps on a secondary internal hdd?
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stevie457
Could somebody recommend a suitable replacement for me please?
My toshiba satellite has now had a complete hard drive failure. So will be upgrading to an SSD. Don't think i warrant a 480gb, maybe something a little less and around the £60-£70 mark. Been waiting for a good deal for a while now, closest I got was to the office outlet deal...
You could look at getting a SSHD. More capacity for less money.
If you're set on an SSD maybe have a look at some used / second hand offers. Should be able to find something online. I got a good deal on a 500gb Samsung Evo 850 recently, second hand.

That's a really good tip. A 4TB hybrid drive is a better proposition for storing Steam libraries and such. Keep the smaller SSDs for system drives or for the AAA titles.
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stevie457
Could somebody recommend a suitable replacement for me please?
My toshiba satellite has now had a complete hard drive failure. So will be upgrading to an SSD. Don't think i warrant a 480gb, maybe something a little less and around the £60-£70 mark. Been waiting for a good deal for a while now, closest I got was to the office outlet deal...
You could look at getting a SSHD. More capacity for less money.
If you're set on an SSD maybe have a look at some used / second hand offers. Should be able to find something online. I got a good deal on a 500gb Samsung Evo 850 recently, second hand.
Thank you so much vardx, just read up on them and sounds like something very suitable. I'll need to check the model no of my laptop first to make sure I get the right size one. Any brand recommendations?
No problem at all!

I don't have any first hand SSHD experience, but I've seen Seagate have a lot of competatively priced models on amazon with plenty of good reviews.

Regarding compatibility, based on what you've said so far, I think any 2.5" drive should work for you. You could also go for a mechanical drive. I recently installed a 1tb 2.5" 7200RPM Hitachi drive in my own laptop, alongside an SSD. Works very well and I got a great price on it, at just 38 pounds.
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stevie457
Could somebody recommend a suitable replacement for me please?
My toshiba satellite has now had a complete hard drive failure. So will be upgrading to an SSD. Don't think i warrant a 480gb, maybe something a little less and around the £60-£70 mark. Been waiting for a good deal for a while now, closest I got was to the office outlet deal...
You could look at getting a SSHD. More capacity for less money.
If you're set on an SSD maybe have a look at some used / second hand offers. Should be able to find something online. I got a good deal on a 500gb Samsung Evo 850 recently, second hand.

Thank you so much vardx, just read up on them and sounds like something very suitable. I'll need to check the model no of my laptop first to make sure I get the right size one. Any brand recommendations?
stevie457
Could somebody recommend a suitable replacement for me please?
My toshiba satellite has now had a complete hard drive failure. So will be upgrading to an SSD. Don't think i warrant a 480gb, maybe something a little less and around the £60-£70 mark. Been waiting for a good deal for a while now, closest I got was to the office outlet deal...

You could look at getting a SSHD. More capacity for less money.

If you're set on an SSD maybe have a look at some used / second hand offers. Should be able to find something online. I got a good deal on a 500gb Samsung Evo 850 recently, second hand.
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I have ordered one via flubit and received an used cpu... open box with thermal paste on it... beware!
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The_Hoff
I won't be drawn in to debate.
That's probably the best attitude for your people to have for the time being, as the facts really don't help you at all. Maybe your favourite company in the whole wide world will do better soon, though. Stay optimistic! :)
BetaRomeo
The_Hoff
Plus, as you failed to comment on, it's not as if AMD are alone in teething issues largely driven by third parties outside of their control. Intel blah blah blah
I use the same judgement there as I do here.
Why didn't I comment on it here? Because it's entirely irrelevant to today's gaming performance - no, wait, entirely irrelevant to performance in general. I wasn't criticising AMD for having issues at launch - you were. I'm looking at the gaming performance on Ryzen and seeing that the i7-7700K leaves every available Ryzen CPU far behind. Which company is behind the best chip doesn't matter to me, although it apparently matters to you - another Ferrari-esque comment which sadly shows your hand. ;)
The_Hoff
...games need optimising for better threading (that's something nobody should be resisting)
Oh, yeah, coding games to use more threads is as simple as that. :D John Carmack, is that you?
The_Hoff
Like i said, don't buy it.
That does seem to be the consensus of the reviews in terms of gaming, true. Don't buy Ryzen.
Hopefully they'll do better with Ryzen 5. They've lost against the 7700K, but I could still see them beating the 7600K.

I won't be drawn in to debate. Sorry.

7700k is a limited one trick pony, enjoy your slice of the past. I'm looking for something bigger.
These are amazingly powerful chips. They can even make a robot act like a human (watch the following and check the message at 2m17s!)

https://youtu.be/kycXcflQJx4

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I wouldn't worry, the processor is slower than some i5's and the reviews of the pc were pretty poor in general. You get get better stuff on ebay for lower prices, even if you have to pop a bit extra ram in.

Edited By: julieallen on Mar 09, 2017 09:03
Seems i missed it, only used very good showing now at £340.

Well for me at least anyway.
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Nate1492
JoshuaHirst
Nate1492
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jadamso
Why so cold!? I'm pretty sure the Strix is up there with the GTR in terms of the pcb.
It may be the best 480 8gb out there, but that's the problem. The 480s do NOT overclock very well.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/23.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html
OCing the Strix results in less than reference 1060 6gb OC.
Once you start adding a few quid to the cost of a 480, it's value quickly goes down. You can't push the card, so why have an exotic cooling solution?
I've seen different reviewers get much better overclocks out of the RX 480. It may be true you can't get a whole lot more out of it, but take the gigabyte rx480 for example and look at the temperatures of that even with a custom fan curve before overclocking.
Care to provide a link? I've not seen anything over 8% in game performance. I've seen a 11% theoretical OC, but it never translates to game performance (from what I've seen).
Nate1492
JoshuaHirst
Nate1492
jadamso
Why so cold!? I'm pretty sure the Strix is up there with the GTR in terms of the pcb.
It may be the best 480 8gb out there, but that's the problem. The 480s do NOT overclock very well.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/23.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html
OCing the Strix results in less than reference 1060 6gb OC.
Once you start adding a few quid to the cost of a 480, it's value quickly goes down. You can't push the card, so why have an exotic cooling solution?
I've seen different reviewers get much better overclocks out of the RX 480. It may be true you can't get a whole lot more out of it, but take the gigabyte rx480 for example and look at the temperatures of that even with a custom fan curve before overclocking.
Care to provide a link? I've not seen anything over 8% in game performance. I've seen a 11% theoretical OC, but it never translates to game performance (from what I've seen).
There you go, i've seen higher than this as well :)https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/11/24/sapphire-rx-480-nitro-oc-4gb-and-8gb/11
I mean, do you refuse to actually look before posting?
I mentioned that I've seen 11% theoretical OC (These guys say 12% theoretical OC).
But did you actually look at the benchmarks provided?
There are 2 cards here tested over 2 games!
Sapphire and Asus cards.
Sapphire goes from 60/55 + 48/44 = 9% (With HUGE rounding errors).
ASUS goes from 53/51 + 42/39 = 5% (with HUGE rounding errors).
So, are you seriously willing to contest this as 'higher than 8%' with the amount of rounding error? These are whole numbers being used, and over 2 games. Seems almost *perfectly* aligned with what I've said (8% games, 11% theoretical).
The conclusion page just echoes my words:
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"the 8GB card improved by between seven and 11 percent"
For both cards, the first step in overclocking was to whack the power limit to 150 percent (the highest available setting) to reduce the potential for bottlenecking.
For the 8GB card, the core was stable up to 1,422MHz, but only after we also increased the voltage by 100mV. The memory was also happy with a small bump to 2.1GHz (8.4Gbps effective). These are overclocks of six and five percent respectively, although 1,422MHz compared to reference speeds is 12 percent higher – not bad.
As for the 4GB card, the core this time around was stable at 1,426MHz, an increase of 120MHz or 9 percent (13 percent over reference) – again, 100mV more was needed to hit this. The memory here managed 1.925GHz (7.7Gbps effective), a 10 percent increase.
At these speeds, and with the additional power headroom and voltage, system power consumption rose to a hefty 412W – this result was the same for both the 8GB and 4GB cards.
(12% HIGHER THAN REFERENCE) No where in that text does it say theoretical and last time I heard 12% is more than 11% X). Besides not everyone buys graphics cards just for games... X)

I mean, again, you made an assumption that a 12.3% mhz bump will mean 12.3% theoretical benchmark improvement.

It doesn't, look at your own source... 6094/5633=8.1% for the Sapphire and 5981/5566=7.4% for the ASUS in theoretical benchmark improvements.

Do... You get my point yet?
JoshuaHirst
Nate1492
JoshuaHirst
Nate1492
jadamso
Why so cold!? I'm pretty sure the Strix is up there with the GTR in terms of the pcb.
It may be the best 480 8gb out there, but that's the problem. The 480s do NOT overclock very well.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/23.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html
OCing the Strix results in less than reference 1060 6gb OC.
Once you start adding a few quid to the cost of a 480, it's value quickly goes down. You can't push the card, so why have an exotic cooling solution?
I've seen different reviewers get much better overclocks out of the RX 480. It may be true you can't get a whole lot more out of it, but take the gigabyte rx480 for example and look at the temperatures of that even with a custom fan curve before overclocking.
Care to provide a link? I've not seen anything over 8% in game performance. I've seen a 11% theoretical OC, but it never translates to game performance (from what I've seen).
Nate1492
JoshuaHirst
Nate1492
jadamso
Why so cold!? I'm pretty sure the Strix is up there with the GTR in terms of the pcb.
It may be the best 480 8gb out there, but that's the problem. The 480s do NOT overclock very well.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/23.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html
OCing the Strix results in less than reference 1060 6gb OC.
Once you start adding a few quid to the cost of a 480, it's value quickly goes down. You can't push the card, so why have an exotic cooling solution?
I've seen different reviewers get much better overclocks out of the RX 480. It may be true you can't get a whole lot more out of it, but take the gigabyte rx480 for example and look at the temperatures of that even with a custom fan curve before overclocking.
Care to provide a link? I've not seen anything over 8% in game performance. I've seen a 11% theoretical OC, but it never translates to game performance (from what I've seen).
There you go, i've seen higher than this as well :)https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/11/24/sapphire-rx-480-nitro-oc-4gb-and-8gb/11

I mean, do you refuse to actually look before posting?

I mentioned that I've seen 11% theoretical OC (These guys say 12% theoretical OC).

But did you actually look at the benchmarks provided?

There are 2 cards here tested over 2 games!

Sapphire and Asus cards.

Sapphire goes from 60/55 + 48/44 = 9% (With HUGE rounding errors).

ASUS goes from 53/51 + 42/39 = 5% (with HUGE rounding errors).

So, are you seriously willing to contest this as 'higher than 8%' with the amount of rounding error? These are whole numbers being used, and over 2 games. Seems almost *perfectly* aligned with what I've said (8% games, 11% theoretical).

The conclusion page just echoes my words:

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"the 8GB card improved by between seven and 11 percent"
Nate1492
JoshuaHirst
Nate1492
jadamso
Why so cold!? I'm pretty sure the Strix is up there with the GTR in terms of the pcb.
It may be the best 480 8gb out there, but that's the problem. The 480s do NOT overclock very well.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/23.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html
OCing the Strix results in less than reference 1060 6gb OC.
Once you start adding a few quid to the cost of a 480, it's value quickly goes down. You can't push the card, so why have an exotic cooling solution?
I've seen different reviewers get much better overclocks out of the RX 480. It may be true you can't get a whole lot more out of it, but take the gigabyte rx480 for example and look at the temperatures of that even with a custom fan curve before overclocking.
Care to provide a link? I've not seen anything over 8% in game performance. I've seen a 11% theoretical OC, but it never translates to game performance (from what I've seen).

Nate1492
JoshuaHirst
Nate1492
jadamso
Why so cold!? I'm pretty sure the Strix is up there with the GTR in terms of the pcb.
It may be the best 480 8gb out there, but that's the problem. The 480s do NOT overclock very well.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/23.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html
OCing the Strix results in less than reference 1060 6gb OC.
Once you start adding a few quid to the cost of a 480, it's value quickly goes down. You can't push the card, so why have an exotic cooling solution?
I've seen different reviewers get much better overclocks out of the RX 480. It may be true you can't get a whole lot more out of it, but take the gigabyte rx480 for example and look at the temperatures of that even with a custom fan curve before overclocking.
Care to provide a link? I've not seen anything over 8% in game performance. I've seen a 11% theoretical OC, but it never translates to game performance (from what I've seen).
There you go, i've seen higher than this as well :)https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/11/24/sapphire-rx-480-nitro-oc-4gb-and-8gb/11

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kkane_irl
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jadamso
Why so cold!? I'm pretty sure the Strix is up there with the GTR in terms of the pcb.
It may be the best 480 8gb out there, but that's the problem. The 480s do NOT overclock very well.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/23.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html
OCing the Strix results in less than reference 1060 6gb OC.
Once you start adding a few quid to the cost of a 480, it's value quickly goes down. You can't push the card, so why have an exotic cooling solution?
Its as simple as this, if you don't care about backplates and RGB lighting the get the dual, but if you want those things for your specific build you have to pay £30 extra. Some people will happily pay for those features.
Exactly, the Asus Dual OC would look terrible in my build X).


i bought the 4gb dual for £150 and can confirm its not a looker! But it should do the job until AMD release their top end cards (need it for freesync)
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Nate1492
jadamso
Why so cold!? I'm pretty sure the Strix is up there with the GTR in terms of the pcb.
It may be the best 480 8gb out there, but that's the problem. The 480s do NOT overclock very well.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/23.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html
OCing the Strix results in less than reference 1060 6gb OC.
Once you start adding a few quid to the cost of a 480, it's value quickly goes down. You can't push the card, so why have an exotic cooling solution?
I've seen different reviewers get much better overclocks out of the RX 480. It may be true you can't get a whole lot more out of it, but take the gigabyte rx480 for example and look at the temperatures of that even with a custom fan curve before overclocking.

Care to provide a link? I've not seen anything over 8% in game performance. I've seen a 11% theoretical OC, but it never translates to game performance (from what I've seen).
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ASUS Radeon RX 470 Strix 8GB Graphics Card £165.92 @ CCL Online

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This is a good deal for a Asus RX 470 Strix ! This can be overclocked to match the performance of an RX 480, all whilst being kept cool with a great non reference cooling design. Read More
This is a good deal for a Asus RX 470 Strix ! This can be overclocked to match the performance of an RX 480, all whilst being kept cool with a great non reference cooling design.
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bought my son a RX 470 4gb from amazon for £154.99 last week so heat from me


Just for the leds?
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bought my son a RX 470 4gb from amazon for £154.99 last week so heat from me
I thought it depended on whether the lights were R, B or G - and overall they sort of averaged out to W
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Destard
Wouldn't it be better overall to pay around £10 more and get an rx 480?


wow hold on there!!! This model has RGB lights, much more beneficial than %15 more performance.


Rgb lights give 50% better performance
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Sapphire Radeon RX 460 NITRO 4GB Graphics Card probably the cheapest current rx 460 4gb model. free delivery with this. see the 2gb model for just under £90 so for a few extra £££ this is worth Read More
Sapphire Radeon RX 460 NITRO 4GB Graphics Card probably the cheapest current rx 460 4gb model. free delivery with this. see the 2gb model for just under £90 so for a few extra £££ this is worth
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Hi can anyone recommend me a graphics card for gigabyte ga-t671mg motherboard, thank you...
Great find op
JoseChupachup
How does this compare to my R9 280x? Is there a ranking table somewhere?


The toms hardware gpu ranking chart is quite helpful

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gpu-hierarchy,review-33383.html

Essentially if you upgrade up less than 3 steps you probably won't notice much of a difference
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JoseChupachup
How does this compare to my R9 280x? Is there a ranking table somewhere?
Its not worth moving from a 280x to this card lol better going for the 470rx


Thanks. Any idea on what would be a good value upgrade? Do I even need one? I'm running a 1080p monitor and sometimes stream to the Tv.
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Apart from that you're absolutely correct it's a matter of overclocking, sometimes 4gb vs 8gb, cooling method and fans and finally aesthetics
The basic gpu itself is always the same. And amd or nvidia don't let that aspect be changed at all
Thanks guys, I didn't know they all were kind of the same thing just with a few changes. Is there a big difference between 4GB and 8GB when we're talking about graphic cards? ie, if the price difference is too much, is it really worth it?
A single 480 isn't powerful enough to run bells and whistles at 4k, and I'm guessing you're not thinking of xfiring (which has its own issues but really does need the 8gb cards).
At 1080p you won't notice any difference between them, I'd save £40 and get the 4gb.

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At 1080p you won't notice any difference between them, I'd save £40 and get the 4gb.
Mainly that config yeah, good to know. Thank you mate!

More about choosing VRAM here >

4GB of VRAM is more than enough for most video cards today, even at 4K. ... This test has shown that 8GB of VRAM is pretty useless right now, there's just no need. Sure, NVIDIA has a video card with 12GB of VRAM in the Titan X, and 6GB of VRAM on its new GTX 980 Ti, but most of the time it's not needed, even at 4K.13 Jun 2015
How much VRAM do you really need at 1080p, 1440p and 4K?
http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/89/much-vram-need-1080p-1440p-4k/index.html



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