Was hoping to get the 10% newsletter discount on top of the student one and was offered it at 740! 2060 at 740 is a steal, especially an i5 and 8gb of RAM, a 2060 desktop gpu is going for 300-350 alone at the moment due to the gpu market
Did you just out and out ask for a further discount? What made you end up going to chat? Been looking to get my first gaming laptop for sim racing, and don't want to spend a fortune. Is the newer 3060 a lot better than the 2060? (£200-250 quid better....??)
I wasnt expecting to get it for 740, was happy with 800 too but the chat guy instantly offered me it for 740 and i snapped it up! Get on the chat tomorrow and theyll sort you out
Thanks. Happy with £800 so anything extra is a bonus :)
Not sure and that depends on your needs I guess. I tend to prefer couch gaming on a console as I sit at my office all day working so don't really want to be spending extra hours there. So console for big blockbusters and laptop for warcraft/LoL etc, which don't really push gpu as hard... Will probably message the chat service and go for this offer if still available I think.
And to think, I got, Along with a few others here, One of These in my main rig now, Wonder what it would fetch today on eBay.
I got a 3070 FE on Tuesday evening from Scan for £480 including delivery. Use partalert on discord. Here’s what I wrote on another thread. Currently awaiting picking for delivery tomorrow. For partalert on discord to get only FE UK notifications... Type the following text commands in # bot-commands to assign the role. -role rtxfe -role uk -role scan-by-blu-broges Your comment should disappear in the chat, the bot will confirm the role and in the left sidebar a new forum appear. To unsubscribe from the role just type in the same command again. Refresh the page and then press add to basket. Even if it says no more stock do this over and over every 20 seconds or so. I only saw the alert for the 3070 FE like 20 mins late but orders can be cancelled especially as Scan is being stricter on who can order i.e. no scalpers. It took about five minutes before I was able to checkout. I used Paypal with no problems. You might have to wait about a minute before the Scan page updates when you return from Paypal to Scan. Keep calm and don't mash refresh at this stage. Purchase and enjoy how light your wallet now feels (y)
I don't doubt there will be people who go the console route, if I was not able to get a GPU and could get a new console then I would. Thing is they are in short supply also - just had a look for a PS5 and I can't see any in stock. Don't forget even though they are hard to get hold of lots of gamers are getting GPUs, just have a look around various forums. Another option is pre built, which is much easier to get. Microsoft will continue Windows, they probably want to make it a live/subscription service though.
Graphics card are in the same position as rolex watches now... dreadful
I really don't thinks so, the more that move to consoles the smaller the market is so cards will have to be priced higher to make the same money to cover R&D/profit, i doubt any of the movers will be back and i have at least one other friend whose PC failed and as he no longer needs his PC for work it's might never get repaired. Combine all those factors with the advent of laptops/tablets/phones which are still increasing in power with every generation yet not increasing in price by 10 times inflationary rates and home PCs days are not looking good. MS have already said windows 10 is the last, perhaps they saw this coming a few years ago.
Hear that, learnt most of that the hard way, nothing worst than its in your basket and your cards are out of date, seconds are what we are talking about.
Pretty much. You have to commit fully and make sure your account is all setup so you can just click next, next, CAPTCHA, next, purchase. It’s also a matter of timing, if there is a drop during a time it’s not most convenient e.g. working hours then it’s not gonna go in your favour.
As i found out a while back, i think it has to be about the most positve approach to getting what you want, i managed to find all the info within a hour, took me 2 days to get a 3080FE , for a decent price.
Great info, I’ll get right on my search and research skills. Thanks bro.
Here's a hint: join telegram and discord groups. Once you understand the process there is plenty of tutorials and advice. The results are still a matter of patience and perseverance, but you should be successful in a very short time. I have manages GPU's and an XSX, but due to the jankyness of the PS5, i'll wait for a firmware patch or two.
I got to admit you are brave. I was well on the way to -1000 for posting a 3070 for £625! Anyways' cold - got an FE for £460 about 3 weeks ago from Scan (you need to be in the Discord like ALL the time).
CCL had this for £799.99 yesterday and that was still a joke. I’m not convinced you need the Suprim X cooler on this card either so paying for useless bling. Someone has posted a complete pre-built PC for about £120 more!
Ah, the 3060ti FE was what I was after really but when the opportunity to get the 3080 FE was there I jumped on it given any of the FEs are reasonably priced and the who knows when the next actual chance to buy any would be. Ultimately this probably just saves me upgrading for a longer time. Also, UNLIMITED POWAAAH!
Easy there fella, I was just saying what I've seen. Admittedly I've only been watching over the last month, as far as 3070s go I've seen palit for £599 and £629, gigabytes at £650 and £679 and I think an MSI at £699. Didn't know you had encountered such problems with them, all I had to go on was you saying they were near enough the worst and I'd never seen anyone say anything other than good things about them as well as only seeing what seemed to be reasonable prices myself. Should have phrased my comment as more of a question I suppose. As far as the stock thing goes, my bad, I didn't realise the others did have em. Do see your point that it is kinda bad they let it go through before cancelling it rather than straight up not letting it go through in the first place, still better than nothing at least.
Graphics Cards: Bringing Games to Life
Posted by Matthew Carrington
Graphics cards turn data from your computer's processing unit into images that ultimately show on your monitor. While most of modern PCs come with built-in graphics chips, people who regularly use multimedia software, gamers, and designers, may need something more advanced and high-tech. A graphics card is attached to the motherboard of a computer in the PCIe expansion slot. It works best when combined with an HD monitor, providing advanced graphics processing and improved image quality.
This buyer's guide will set out the main graphic card features to look out for, and where to find the best graphic card deals. So read on to find out more.
What to Consider Before Buying a Graphics Card
If you want to upgrade your computer, one of the best ways to go about it is by investing in the right graphics card. For avid gamers this is worth an investment, but it can be difficult to choose which one suits your needs. Here are five things to consider when making a decision:
Only Pay For What You Need
The cards that provide the highest level of performance aren’t cheap. You can easily pay over £500 for a card that has all the latest features and is designed to work perfectly on a large monitor. However, you might not even notice the extra functionality so unless your setup specifically demands a higher version, you will find that a mid-range card works totally fine.
Decide What You Want Beforehand
When you start looking for a graphics card you’ll find a wide array of cards with different strengths, features and statistics. Unless you already know exactly what you need, it can be difficult to figure out which card fits your scenario. Find out which specs are important by looking at the requirements of the game or other software you intend to use, then use those as a guide.
Of all the specs on a graphics card, one of the most important aspect is RAM. This determines the amount of memory a card has to work with, although it runs separately from the built-in RAM of your computer. A card with sufficient RAM can deliver clearer and faster graphics.
Reference vs. Non-Reference
Major graphics card producers like Nvidia and Asus, develop and manufacture the cards before selling them in two different ways. Customers can buy directly from them or from other suppliers to which the manufacturers provide their products. However, note that these suppliers make some modifications to the cards before selling them to consumers and thus their versions are usually known as non-reference cards, or aftermarket cards. They may have higher-spec components and better cooling systems than reference cards sold by the original suppliers but can also be more costly as a result.
The Cooling System
One of the most commonly modified components of a graphics card is the cooling system. It is what keeps the card below a certain temperature threshold when it’s in use and safeguard it from overheating. If you are not planning to use run the card for a prolonged period of time, a single fan version that propels hot air out and away from your PC should be sufficient. For users of high-powered applications for a longer period of time, a card with two cooling fans, or even a water-based cooling system, could be worth it.
Any Compatibility Issues?
As with any tech items, graphics cards can present compatibility issues. Check if your computer has the required input port and if can handle the power the card consumes. Otherwise, a separate power supply may be required in addition to an adapter. You might also want to think about where the card will be housed and whether it will fit inside your tower.
Look at Benchmark Results
After you decide on what type of graphics card you are purchasing, there are many websites where you can read about how it performs, particularly in comparison to other similar items. These comparison results will give important tips like how much stress the card can take before it begins to show signs of lag or other weakness. This information is extremely helpful as a last step for deciding if the card that you chose is the right decision.
What are the Different Types of Graphics Card?
If you are considering replacing your current graphics card or getting a new one for the first time, read below to find out what is best for your use. Here we provide the descriptions of the three main types of graphics card:
Integrated Graphics Cards — This type of graphics card usually comes with your PC. This is a part of your computer’s motherboard, or the central processing unit (CPU). Although it cannot usually be removed, you can add another graphics processor to increase your PC's capabilities. If you mainly use your computer for casual 2D games, videos, documents and Internet surfing, an integrated solution will be sufficient for your needs. These aren’t particularly graphics-intensive activities, so you should rarely experience lag or crashes. Nevertheless, you can play some 3D games but make sure you set the graphics low so it won't interrupt with your gameplay.
Mid-Range Graphics Cards — If you play games or videos that require a more powerful GPU, like GTA 5, Red Dead Redemption 2, or Far Cry 5, then you might want to look into mid-range graphics cards. Units with the Sapphire technology from AMD are especially useful if you like using a larger monitor or a display, of which the resolution is around 1080p or 4K. There are more advanced options but if all you do is playing HD games with your existing setup, this should suffice. Assuming your PC has a spare PCIe slot, this type of card can fit in very easily and deliver an immediate boost to your gameplay. You can tweak the settings in each individual game to get the best results and also take full advantage of any software provided by the card manufacturer.
4K Gaming Cards — For those who expect excellent results regardless of which level of screen resolution they use, a high-end card will give you the maximum results. If you are planning on using a 4K monitor you’ll need a card that is made for this. This type of card is a necessity if you plan to play one of the new virtual reality games designed to be used with the Oculus Rift headset or other VR hardware. The graphics cards in this category are not the most affordable ones, but if you want to have the freedom of playing any modern game and enjoy their full quality, then you’ll need one of these top range GPUs. Good examples are the GTX 1080 and the Quadro M4000 from Nvidia.
Comparing Graphics Cards
If you're looking at buying a new graphics card, then you'll want to weigh up what currently on the market. GPUs can be very expensive, so think about your exact needs as theirs no point buying a graphics card for over £1000 if you are only going to use it to play minesweeper!
If you’re not sure which graphics card you have, this is how you find out. Follow the simple steps provided below on your Windows PC:
Start by right-clicking on desktop.
Choose "Screen Resolution" and then "Advanced Settings".
A pop-up will show the details of the card under "Adapter Type".
This should show the hardware and the memory.
Click "Properties" to see further details.
Graphics Card Accessories
From brackets that secure the card placement to extra adaptors, accessories can help you get the most out of a graphics card:
Graphic Card Questions Answered
How do graphic cards work?
Simply, a graphic card takes binary data and decides how pixels on the screen are used to create an image, and then it sends that information through cables to the monitor.
Which graphic card storage size to choose?
The on-board memory of a graphics card can range from 2GB to 11GB and your decision should depend on how much memory size your system can process. This memory is separate from that of the PC and used exclusively by the graphics card. Currently, there are few benefits for getting a storage above 4GB, as even the most high budget games with demanding graphics do not require this much storage. The only reason for choosing a GPU with 6GB or above is to prepare your system setup for future upcoming games.
Are graphic cards universal?
Most modern motherboards (CPU) and GPUs use PCI-E 3.0 slots, so as long as the card fits physically fits in the computer, any graphics card should be compatible with any motherboard.
Does graphic card increase computer speed?
Installing a sophisticated GPU can improve a computer's performance and a better graphics card can significantly improve a computer's gaming ability.
Do graphic cards come with cables?
Most GPUs don't come with HDMI or DVI cables, so you'll need to buy them on top of GPU purchase.
How to Get the Best Graphics Card Deals
Retailers like Currys PC World, Amazon and CCL Online carry an excellent selection of cards of all levels, basic, mid-range and high-performance graphics. You can also take a look at the virtual shelves of manufacturers like NVidia or AMD to shop the latest releases.
There are numerous graphics cards for every level of budget. During the Black Friday sales, major retailers like Amazon and Argos offer big discounts on technology items and provide shoppers a chance to save up to 25%. Additionally, they also offer GPU deals around the Christmas period and other annual sales in the summer or spring. During these times, you can also find graphics card sales at stores like Currys, Maplin and eBay.
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Good. So that may have helped someone with an old PC. I’m not clutching at straws really. Until recently I had 2 AMD FX PCs running on legacy GPUs that were put together from old parts. One was used by my mother with an AMD HD4350 and the other by my wife with an old Nvidia Quadro card. I’m sure they are not the only ones around. Motherboards with integrated graphics were few and far between after AM2 boards - maybe a few AM3s. Most AMD CPUs don’t have integrated graphics. I’ll leave it at that. You can put me down again if you wish.
Because there are very few reasons to buy an old, unsupported GPU and you’re clutching at straws for reasons that someone might. I’m not ‘getting upset’ at anything - if you want to buy this then fill your boots. It’s fringe because you selected a rare, old CPU with no integrated graphics, work on the assumption that the motherboard has no graphics either and they don’t already have an add-in card just to prove your point. So yes if all those criteria were met, maybe they’d have a reason to buy this.
The They might be buying second hand from CEX. Or they might have upgraded an old FX to and left with the cpu, motherboard and RAM and want to set up a second PC and need a GPU. Why is this fringe. Why are you getting so upset about my answers?
So in this fringe example what were these FX chip owners using before? Some of those motherboard chipsets had integrated graphics before it got moved onto the chip die.
It all depends what kind of specs you would like to get. If you go with scan you can fiddle a bit with the components available. I went for a high end myself with 3080. In my opinion 3060ti is a great option paired with lets say ryzen 5 3600.
Literally couldn't people find prebuilds like this with GPUs, take them out and sell them?
Ye i did same but looks like they never had stock could be waiting months lol
I manage to place an order back in release day, but still shows as delivery pending and no money has been taken. :( let's hope it gets dispatched some day and not the order ancelled.
Thank you that’s helpful. I’ve not got enough PSU headroom for the Ti (only running a 450w). If I could get a 3060 for ‘RRP’ I’d fancy my chances of it being a minimal cost to upgrade but sounds like it’s also a minimal benefit
Gamersnexus did a review - about 10~20% better(more in raytracing) and 2x vram. The 2x vram might have a use,but i think its because the rtx2060 was not an 8gb card. Well,if you can do it for under £100 it might be OK ?? The rtx3060ti is 50~60% faster than a rtx2060(more in raytracing).
So should I be looking for a gap in the market to upgrade my EVGA 2060 (non super but has the better CUDA cores from a binned 2080), for a small outlay, or not? Will having double the RAM not be useful? Thought given the lack of availability I’d get a decent chunk of the cost back through selling my 2060? Thanks
Not really I'm well aware of how it works but there is a lot more to what you say than just on principles. At a basic functionality what you say is correct but there is a lot of other variables bottlenecks, quality of component, bandwidths and I think you are missing the point were making and going to technical. The performance increase is "gaming" what this PC is aimed at, this is specc'ed up for FPS gaming which is where its driven and having your memory in dual channel. If your not running an FPS game you wouldn't seem much and like you say much lower difference hardly noticeable but ramp it up and with everything high that's when single channel would start bottlenecking this. It's a crafty config to hide the single stick of 16gb behind the powerhouse 3070, smells of cheap and nastyness which is what we are trying to point out.
memory access happens with clock syncs whether it has data in it or not, the quoted estimate is not dependant on tasks, browsing or gaming just like your wrist watch does not go any faster depending on what you are doing neither doesn't the clock on a PC, the only thjing that will change on demand is the ratio of cpu cycles to clock, not the clock itself. you need to familiarise yourself with fairly basic computer science before you start making comments like that
Wouldn't say its a small part at all ?. Considering this is sold as a "Gaming" pc it would be considerable performance decrement being under single channel. You would be 2-5% under nominal conditions like browsing and office work but once you get to optimised programs with larger chunks of data through the channels its clunk clunk time as its all in the queue that's when you will notice.
This also has a better board. 128gb RAM and the ability to easily upgrade the bios.
There is about a 40% performance difference between a 5700XT and a 3070. The stronger the gpu the greater the chance of hitting other limiting factors within the system such as performance limits from the RAM configuration. There are plenty of reviews and benchmarks showing the difference but they also show it is game specific by how much it varies. As for stuttering I’ve seen it first hand swapping between 1x16gb and 2x16gb on Modern Warfare and is also a topic that pops up on pc forums frequently. Single channel is just shooting yourself in the foot.
Acer Predator Helios 300, this has better build quality compared to the Nitro, the Acer Predator Helios 300 is metal and plastic also has 2x SSD drives a 512GB and 1TB SSD to be fair this isn't a bad price.
I guess it's a simple difference in philosophy, I am the kinda person who comes here looking for exceptional deals and not just discounts and I am willing to wait six months to a year before committing to a laptop deal that is seen as a steal or an absolute bargain. I'm not gonna argue that this isn't a good laptop at it's RRP or at its current discounted price, but I don't see it as a hot deal and personally I would wait for a better deal.
Why not? Just intrigued. Neither of us can time travel to the past or future to get a better deal. Razer or asus rog ( no webcam, it’s a must now a days) with the same spec will cost you more. Not to forget Costco 2 years warranty can’t be beat. Not arguing but trying to understand why as I am looking to buy one so you have a better deal please let me know .
They have done that with me too, regarding a 3060ti I ordered a few days ago, told me they haven't had it in all year but I was told they can't update their website to show that!? Then they want you to upgrade to another card for crazy prices.
They told me no one has had the RX570 for weeks so it sounds like they never had it to start with. Ended up getting the other PC you listed with no GPU. They didn't offer any good deals on these.
A friend ordered from palicomp, a 570 was on the build, and palicomp replaced it for free for a 1650 for free or i think it was 80pounds for a 580. how generous of them, replacing for an inferior product for the same money. I know there are gpu shortages, but if you dont have 570 stock, dont list it.
I'm going to give up with Palicomp. Nothing is ever in stock when you go to order, and then their upsell prices are ridiculous. Offering a similar spec card for double the price? They're getting to be worse than the scalpers...
Thanks for the update, spoken to them now. its been milked over night, solution -> 1050Ti isnt a bad option, but id be wanting -£25 back in my pocket...!. and that 1650 should be the same price ---> i would argue back and say, oi the 1650 is the market price of the rx570 so if u can swap the rx570 to 1650 id take or cancel my transaction. or id pitch them +50 for a RX580....... "this is what id expect, otherwise ->> walk away.
How tf did you get a 580 at that price, I've only ever seen them at £200+ used on ebay
Thing is, things won't stay equal and people are flocking to this like it's a money printer, I suspect they will get their fingers burned, especially if they're buying on credit - more miners = more competition = lower earnings. Even the 4GB cards are hiked as Ethereum Classic reset their DAG and you can mine RVN on the smaller memory cards. Even if this does go 'pop' it will take ages to reset, even during 2018-19 cards were overpriced for a while. Anyone who wants a card is best off looking at Facebook or Gumtree really - not paying Scan, OCUK, etc. silly money.
Not mine but setting from https://whattomine.com/gpus/27-amd-radeon-rx-580-8gb?cost=0.16 "1150/2150 with 0.1v undervolt and ETH BIOS mod"
What settings are you getting that hash rate. I'm getting 28.9 with the recommended settings by NiceHash.
Hi. Scammers make their money illegally. Although not fair, the use of BOTs to currently buy products is legal although it may break the terms and conditions of the retailer. I agree its unfair, every time I look at the currys website for a GPU its gone in seconds, there's no way a human is buying them, I ended up buying a used 2080ti for my gaming build. But I argue that BOTS would not be programmed to target stock that is not in demand. It certainly adds to the problem but there are many reasons GPU's are in short supply. The following quote from BBC touches on the subject: "Early last year, Chinese manufacturing was temporarily limited due to the coronavirus outbreak; later, shipping delays hit the electronics market; and the price of Bitcoin has made "mining" - using GPUs - more lucrative." But that doesn't even take in to account that there were other reasons for the lack of supply. Many GPU manufactures were struggling to meet the silcion demand before recent current price trends. Its widely accepted due to Covid and lockdown measures globally we saw GPU gaming demand rise and cyrypto price rises increased that demand even further. The following quote from Forbes explains that problems were rooted in 2017: "Nvidia shares the supply problem with AMD. Both companies have stated they're willing and able to manufacture as much as the market can bear, but the core issue is a global DRAM shortage which affects availability of video memory types like GDDR5 and HBM2. One key reason for this is that in 2017 the leading memory manufacturers diverted a large portion of their resources to producing DDR4 memory for smartphones. As ExtremeTech's Joel Hruska points out, that demand has "stripped the market bare" and we're still recovering." I think demand came from a number of groups, to name a few: - Gamers likely need x1 GPU for their entertainment - Miners/mining farms need x (1-1000) GPUs - Cloud gaming need (some silly high number) GPU's - Work environments have a need for GPU's - Others I understand why some would be angered by current market conditions, but the demand around GPU's has not been created artificially, there are a number of contributing factors and it would be imperceptive to marginalise one group or the other to award blame.
Limited editions are the ones that I would say make up the bulk of supply/demand conditions. There aren't limited editions in this case of graphics cards/consoles there's scammers Vs real players. Scammers are grabbing product as soon as it hits the market using bots, not giving the customers a chance to buy it then jack up the price at 2-3x more than it should cost. That's not supply vs demand that is literally a forced situation which shouldn't have been given any way to happen. There have been groups who literally gloated over the fact they used bots to grab whatever they could and kept the normal gamer from being able to get their hands on it. As far as I'm concerned until a law is introduced that literally stops the scammer there won't be enough for oversupply in the way where you could go online and just pay RRP for a long while yet. Unitl stores reopen and the stock shows up on shelves where you can physically pick one up scammers will ensure there is so few available that you will have to wait or pay through the nose if you desperately want one. That's still not supply Vs demand that's holding the gamer to a form of ransom. eBay even knows it's happening yet there are still thousands of overpriced consoles/graphics cards on there and the company is letting this go
That’s frightening 822 watching one 3060ti card deal, 332 on another that means you get minutes to buy or lose out until next container arrives.
That’s correct, shame I was at work for 12 hours otherwise would have posted earlier. I did message Sarden84 plus 2 other members hoping they would post for me
Can game perfectly well on it in Windows 10 via Boot Camp.
Yep. These are 2 grand @ Pcworld :/
Over 200 quid off and people vote cold? I guess it's all the windows fanboys
screen is amazing, sadly, cant game on it
Well you can’t because I’ve just got a notification for an RTX3070 on Amazon for £1400! Aside from that even if by some miracle you source one at RRP can you please tell me how much it would cost for a screen of the same quality as an iMac? I’m not talking hz but colour accuracy and 5K…I’ll wait…
I bought the recent deal from Costco and it was supplied via this ... hmm ... cowboys. Awful experience all the way. A month later I still do not have what I paid for and can not get a refund. Responses to emails completely random. On the phone they promise to find out and email (annoyed) back and then nothing. You've been warned.
Isn't the Palicomp deal better with 3200 ram?
Have you any advice on snagging a gpu, I'm struggling. The only way to get a reasonably (I use that word lightly) priced gpu is in a pre-built. A lot of the builders are also pairing the stronger gpu with old cpu as well. Waiting to see what happens when 3060 are released, but not holding my breath.
Don't forget the mastermind crooks at the centre of this - Nvidia and AMD. Especially now with NVIDIA now gimping mining on consumer GPUs to make mining specific cards.
True there all scum but i understand retailers racking up the prices....i would, why should they supply scalpers cheap cards, with a retailer you can do an RMA, don't think e*ay scalpers do RMA's.
Removing the card is easy. Unscrew the support bracket and pull the bracket out. Then unscrew card, and push holding clip to release.
I receive my i7 3080 omen 30l now. You are right, mining I am hitting 110 vram. This is rubbish, I am following a guide on YouTube now to replace all the fans with Noctua industrial ones for the whole case. Thermal pads on the gpu is also a option, but I am a bit worried about this bit, it’s quite difficult to take the gpu out. I will report back if I get any good results.
preorder for delivery when???
It's very nice as far as prebuilts go. I think for the money there should be 32GB RAM, and HP deliberately reduce the speed of any non-official RAM sticks you add*. But overall it performs really well. * TIP: INTEL XTU utility gets around the limitation.
Have you seen the 3090 option for £2639, also a cheap 3060ti model taking pre orders too