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£2 cap for a single journey.

Bus operators covering more than 90% of the network in England have signed up for the scheme, the DfT said.


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Dan_82
With the cost of bus journeys going up and up, some crazy prices where i live, this is at least some good news for those living in England. Personally would've liked it to be earlier, it still might be, but at least it's incoming and hopefully help towards the cost of living right now (although more could be done!)

Those under £2 won't be affected by the cap e.g if you pay £1.80, then you'll still pay £1.80.



Millions across England will save money through a new £2 cap on single bus journeys from January to March 2023, backed by up to £60 million to ensure affordable transport across the country.

The Transport Secretary has today (3 September 2022) announced the government will provide up to £60 million from January to March next year, to help bus operators to cap single adult fares at £2 per journey.

The move will help passengers with travel costs for work, education, shopping and medical treatments over the winter months while they are facing pressures from the rising cost of living.

Bus fares vary across different parts of the country and between bus operators, and can even reach almost £6 for a single journey in rural areas. The new cap means passengers in those areas could save more than £60 a month if they took 4 single trips a week.

The average single fare for a 3-mile journey is estimated at over £2.80, meaning that the new fare will save passengers almost 30% of the price every time they travel.



Introducing the fare cap by January enables the government to work with operators and local authorities to implement a scheme that most effectively delivers real savings for passengers. Operators representing around 90% of the bus market have expressed support for the scheme and we hope that all bus operators will participate.

The fare cap builds on lots of offers around the country in areas with high bus demand, which include daily, weekly and monthly ticket options and promotional offers. Single fares which are already lower than £2 will not be affected by the cap.

The government will continue to work closely with bus operators and local authorities and consider future support to help passengers continue accessing reliable and affordable bus services after March.

A flat-rate bus pilot scheme, backed by £23.5 million of government funding, launched in Cornwall this January and has already seen an indicative 10% increase in passenger numbers. The ‘Any Ticket Any Bus’ scheme, running over 4 years, includes a £3 day ticket within towns or a £9 day ticket across all of Cornwall, which is valid across different bus operators.

Dawn Badminton-Capps, Director for England for charity Bus Users, said:

The cap on fares being announced today will bring welcome, short-term relief to the millions of people who rely on buses to access education, employment and health services. Buses make a vital contribution to society and government support is critical in protecting services for the future.Paul Tuohy, Chief Executive of Campaign for Better Transport, said:

This will be very welcome news for the millions of people who rely on the bus to get to work, to the shops, to medical appointments and to connect with friends and family. It will also encourage more people to find their nearest bus stop and give the bus a try… where could YOU go for just £2?

Buses have great potential to cut traffic and carbon emissions, to connect communities and ease loneliness. This £2 fare cap – which we have called for – will help set buses on the road to a bright future.Alison Edwards, Policy Director at the Confederation of Passenger Transport:

Bus fare caps at £2 are an eye-catching initiative which could help attract new passengers onto the bus, particularly at a time when networks are adapting to new travel patterns, and both customers and operators are facing cost of living and business cost challenges.

We look forward to understanding in detail how the proposed fare cap will work in practice to ensure it supports the long-term sustainability of bus networks, which are vital in connecting communities with jobs, education and skills, as well as friends, family and essential public services.
Edited by a community support team member, 1 January 2023
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  1. steve252's avatar
    steve252
    From tomorrow (04/09) in Greater Manchester:

    bbc.co.uk/new…016
    Alexander_Fischer's avatar
    Alexander_Fischer
    Same in West Yorkshire
  2. Ian_D123's avatar
    Ian_D123
    Megabus? doubt it
    ImhereforDealz's avatar
    ImhereforDealz
    I believe this is applicable for local buses only
  3. Roger_Irrelevant's avatar
    Roger_Irrelevant
    Just need to do the same for trains now.
    Farooqi's avatar
    Farooqi
    It won't happen in London (i mean the trains) atleast, the TFL workers cry every other week for a pay rise (even though they have a pretty handsome salary). Tbh starting to hate TFL now with all these workers strike. (edited)
  4. slimy31's avatar
    slimy31
    The £60m plan could see some passengers save more than £3 per single bus ticket, according to the Department for Transport (DfT).
    So there are bus fares more than £5?! I am seriously behind the times here.

    Of course, it doesn't help that we have no kind of bus service anywhere near. If I chose public transport to get to work (a 12 mile journey) I'd have to start out the night before.
    stafo's avatar
    stafo
    Luxury..
    In my day we had to get up three hours before we went to bed, work 40 hour shift and pay mill owner for privilege of working for him - and were grateful for it!
  5. cityslicker's avatar
    cityslicker
    Going get shot down but been less than £2 in London for decades. As low as 90p in the 00's. Now £1.65 and also allows you to change bus if you do it within the first hour for no extra charge. Primary school kids and oldies are also free (even those who dont live in London)

    About time the rest of the country were included (edited)
    cityslicker's avatar
    cityslicker
    London Buses are privatised too. Our local buses in West London are run by the French government arm RATP. Differnce is they Transport for London own complete control. RATP just "run" the network.

    It seems to work though. London Buses are pretty good. Although we"ve had some recent cuts in routes due to the pandemic.

    Bus ridership is still high. Even though there are options like the tube and national rail.

    The integrated system and the Travelcard system certainly helps. You just use any mode of transport all day unlimited for £11.00
  6. rambo_or_mark's avatar
    rambo_or_mark
    This will save me £0 per year and put the gov in more debt that I’ll have to pay off with heavier taxes. Great. Ice cold.
  7. Speculator's avatar
    Speculator Author
    17 February 2023 We intend to extend the £2 bus fare cap until 30 June 2023. (edited)
    Sunglasses_Ron's avatar
    Sunglasses_Ron
    Excellent!
  8. NewForestMonkeyBrains's avatar
    NewForestMonkeyBrains
    We do get stung for public travel in the UK.
    We pay £8+ for a 12 mile return trip to our local city. Similar price for a 1 mile ferry trip to same place.
    We've just paid 15 euros (around £13.50) for two people to go from Salou to Barcelona on a train.a distance of approx 67 miles. If public transport was cheaper, then we would get out of our cars.
    Realhoneyman's avatar
    Realhoneyman
    I came back from Barcelona last week. Local buses were €2.40 for a single journey (same if you got the right ticket that would cover you for bus/furnicular/tram/train). It was also €4.60 for a single train journey to the airport from Passieg de Gracia which I thought was fair.

    English public transport companies are catching on with cheap bus travel. LNER offer decent single fairs for short trips (Wakefield to Leeds for £2.20). The problem is different train companies charge different prices for the same journey (LNER is the cheapest, then Northern Rail followed by Cross Country).

    UK transport companies will eventually match those in some of our fellow countries; they're just slow on the uptake and want to maximise profit.
  9. tonypop's avatar
    tonypop
    £2 ? is that to travel to the local shopping centre to heat yourself up before it closes down?
    RonM's avatar
    RonM
    Issue is bus takes say 80 people.. That's it.
    If people did warm up at shopping centre.. For last bus.. The bus would be full at shopping centre and.. No one can get on rest of route
  10. GordonGekko's avatar
    GordonGekko
    I remember when a bus journey was just 30p
    Deals_Galore's avatar
    Deals_Galore
    Don’t get me started on the size of chocolate bars nowadays
  11. TristanDeCoonha's avatar
    TristanDeCoonha
    But how will the bus companies get their money? If they are getting it through government subsidy, then what is the point, as it means you are paying for it anyway
    fireman1's avatar
    fireman1
    It means people that dont use the buses are paying for it.
  12. hypaed's avatar
    hypaed
    My boss works in London and I work in Manchester.

    It's cheaper for us both to meet in France than for either of us to travel by train 🤪

    About time they started figuring out it's expensive
  13. Chiptivo's avatar
    Chiptivo
    Fair play to the Government, great incentive and help.
    Newbold's avatar
    Newbold
    The same lot that took all the money away in the first place and left huge areas of the country without access to any public transport at all?
  14. clax6's avatar
    clax6
    This isn't a good thing.
    clax6's avatar
    clax6
    Because it’s another sign of how bad things are.
  15. kos1c's avatar
    kos1c
    How much is a bus in London? I haven't used one in almost a decade. Was like £1.70?
    Besford's avatar
    Besford
    Read the thread!
  16. ghosthorp's avatar
    ghosthorp
    Something needs to be done for trains and railways too.
    MattMac's avatar
    MattMac
    The justification for train fares being higher than bus fares is that they are most commonly used for commuting to larger cities where the pay tends to be more. Busses tend to be travelling more in the local area for local work, shopping and leisure. (edited)
  17. mr_bargain's avatar
    mr_bargain
    Buses expensive and rubbish over here, always empty. Tenerife, new buses and about €1.20 a journey, always busy.
    furious1y's avatar
    furious1y
    Almost as if publicly owned services are run at cost, not for profit.
  18. Malabus's avatar
    Malabus
    When I went to school it was 10p return.
    stafo's avatar
    stafo
    What's 'school'?
  19. romanburasc449a's avatar
    romanburasc449a
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    tonypop's avatar
    tonypop
    What are you actually on about? Lothian buses or possibly best in Britain.
  20. Mobb_Deep's avatar
    Mobb_Deep
    Still need to return
    And I just tired of paying £5 to basically go the cinema and back, 3 miles (6 miles total)

    Even at £4 its still way too much for basically from one town to the next
    Couldn't imagine paying my local bus prices if I had to rely on them for work also much slower
    Mobb_Deep's avatar
    Mobb_Deep
    Well I have a E Scooter but haven't really rode it at all I couldn't really take it last time because it was dark outside and raining and didn't want to leave it outside in the dark for hours (worried about theft though looking back I could have just asked to store it behind the counter or locked up inside if they let me)


    But from now on forget busses and trams and I'm using my E Scooter as I bought it to replace Tram usage I would still say it will take me the same amount of time

    I would say 15min for gentle pedalling on a bike is a bit low
    It took me that to go and from school which was half that not so gentle pedalling because of people, crossing roads, etc
  21. The_Kurgan's avatar
    The_Kurgan
    Anyone looking at Yorkshire and Humber and confused by the number of routes in West Yorkshire not covered by this Gov scheme, will be pleased to know that West Yorkshire have been in their own £2 'Mayers Fares' capped scheme since Sept 2022 and the Day Tickets previously available have been combined so you can travel on both First and Arriva buses, and it's cheaper at £4.50.
  22. scuzzlebutt's avatar
    scuzzlebutt
    The only issue is there won't be any seats on the bus this winter because pensioners with bus passes to travel for free ride them all day long purely so they can get a heat.
    Ian_D123's avatar
    Ian_D123
    can't really see many doing that. maybe they will use the bus to go to one of those nice fancy indoor heated shopping centres and spend the day in there instead.
  23. Meeshsalts's avatar
    Meeshsalts
    i live in west yorkshire and this offer starts this month thanks to our mayor
    alcopop's avatar
    alcopop
    If you used the app, it was £2.00 for a single trip before. After 7pm it used to be a £1.00, I think that then when up to £1.60, currently is £1.40.
  24. cat_la's avatar
    cat_la
    Will this apply to kids too? My daughters bus to school is £3 each way which is ridiculous especially as we are encouraged to stop so much school traffic by using public transport.
    Sophiasky's avatar
    Sophiasky
    I live in Exeter (Devon) and here they do a child's Day Rider ticket (unlimited travel around the entire City for £3.10. For a child's Day Rider Plus ticket (unlimited travel again, but the area also extends to nearby towns as well, ie, Okehampton, Cullompton (about 15 miles from Exeter) and Teignmouth), this ticket cost £4.20. Have you looked into the various bus tickets available where you live - if they do similar tickets, one of them could be cheaper than paying out £6 a day for her to get to school? (edited)
  25. duncanb1973's avatar
    duncanb1973
    with this you will save a few pounds if you usually take the bus, will probably save nothing if you have a weekly/monthly pass, and if you never or rarely use the bus a 50p or so saving is hardly going to persuade you to walk from your home to your bus stop, hope the bus comes in time and do the reverse later adding an hour or so to your journey. Good idea in principle but not at the £2 level,
    The_Kurgan's avatar
    The_Kurgan
    I don't think the main focus of this is to tempt people on to public transport, I think the main purpose is to help slightly reduce the cost of living pressures for those already having to regularly rely on public transport.There is a small mention of tempting people onto buses to reduce carbon emissions, but think most regular users are just glad of reduced fares for a while. To properly tempt people onto the bus they need to address the bus 'ghosting' that happens far too frequently for people trying to get to and from work. (edited)
  26. CrunchyFrog's avatar
    CrunchyFrog
    Various Go ... companies routes are listed as included, and not included here:
    gov.uk/gui…cap
  27. normal's avatar
    normal
    Watch bus companies introduce £2 flat fares
  28. King_Homer's avatar
    King_Homer
    48155209-4c6gU.jpg (edited)
  29. john_william's avatar
    john_william
    Oh the joy. A cap for 3 months. What happens after that. Let me guess a strike from tfl because they have no more money

    I know a train driver who earns 82k a year, work 3 days a week, class as experience, gets 40days hols a year, yet always moans he skint. Lol... Fml (edited)
    merdemoipas's avatar
    merdemoipas
    How many people working in the financial industry do you know who do half as much, earn twice as much, and moan just as much!
  30. beaufinder1's avatar
    beaufinder1
    Germany did it trains and buses for 9 euro a month
    shazar's avatar
    shazar
    And they have stopped it as it was costing too much money for the tax payer.
  31. furious1y's avatar
    furious1y
    Let's see - starve all councils of money for 12 years, leading to a token bus service which hardly anyone uses any more - my father gave up getting a bus pass as an hourly expensive service is pointless to go 2-3 miles when you can cycle.
    So hooray for privatisation and austerity!

    How about the energy companies being left to die and then nationalised? And the trains. And the water utilities. The thatcher neoliberalism experiment has truly failed, proving that privatisation does not work, and they are worse than public owned as they run a worse service to make a profit...
  32. DealJourno's avatar
    DealJourno
    Too little, too late from this shower.
  33. Imti's avatar
    Imti
    The cost of a day saver is £4, and if travelling by bus you need a minimum of 2 journeys so it essentially works out the same. I would cap the single journey at £1 to make it worthwile!
    manojlds's avatar
    manojlds
    Where though? It's 4.7 in Nottingham. So if you are taking only two rides it's a 0.7 saving.
  34. Molloy4U's avatar
    Molloy4U
    Just nationalise it again and admit they got it wrong. Again.
  35. pikachu545's avatar
    pikachu545
    Why 3 months only?
    deleted2130460's avatar
    Anonymous User
    heating at home will be used less, its to help during hard times, corporate companies trying to help not be a charity

    if its cheaper to drive then drive
  36. thaliar's avatar
    thaliar
    Ludicrous idea! Anyone who needs to go to work daily on the bus will buy a monthly pass - £78 here in Bristol (& that includes unlimited travel for weekends & evenings too) Might save the odd £ here & there for casual users but hardly compensates for £400 a month fuel bills. Makes me so angry - rich politicians sitting around thinking they'll save the 'poor' a few quid on the nasty buses they have to use because they can't afford a nice car 😡
    bananabandana's avatar
    bananabandana
    Yeah. Doubt this will do much for commuters.

    What public transport needs is to be public then we can invest in it properly. Private sector clearly failed us.
  37. jazferbetay's avatar
    jazferbetay
    Nothing like this in Scotland for flat cap fare for the working people
    ashyt16turbo's avatar
    ashyt16turbo
    No, but you get everything else for free.
  38. Username50's avatar
    Username50
    Not a deal. Cold.
    sdaniaal's avatar
    sdaniaal
    More like a crappy public service announcement
  39. iMissThe2010s's avatar
    iMissThe2010s
    doesn't do anything about lack of routes, terrible scheduling. Literally putting a plaster on a severed arm. also doesn't apply to return journeys lmao.

    Another pathetic attempt by the almighty clueless Grant shapps.
    BillyBurner's avatar
    BillyBurner
  40. Grazz0r's avatar
    Grazz0r
    In Belgium I can get the bus for 1 euro 80 and this gives ninety minutes of travel with unlimited changes during that time. This has been the price for years.
    Newbold's avatar
    Newbold
    Ahh…but we’ve governments for 12 years that don’t give a damn about public transport.
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