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Majority of Adults Bus Journeys to be capped to just £2 (England) from January to March 2023
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£2 cap for a single journey.
Bus operators covering more than 90% of the network in England have signed up for the scheme, the DfT said.
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62775639
Bus operators covering more than 90% of the network in England have signed up for the scheme, the DfT said.
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62775639
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sorted by- Alexander_FischerSame in West Yorkshire
- Ian_D123Megabus? doubt itImhereforDealzI believe this is applicable for local buses only
- Roger_IrrelevantJust need to do the same for trains now.FarooqiIt won't happen in London (i mean the trains) atleast, the TFL workers cry every other week for a pay rise (even though they have a pretty handsome salary). Tbh starting to hate TFL now with all these workers strike. (edited)
- slimy31
The £60m plan could see some passengers save more than £3 per single bus ticket, according to the Department for Transport (DfT).
So there are bus fares more than £5?! I am seriously behind the times here.
Of course, it doesn't help that we have no kind of bus service anywhere near. If I chose public transport to get to work (a 12 mile journey) I'd have to start out the night before.stafoLuxury..
In my day we had to get up three hours before we went to bed, work 40 hour shift and pay mill owner for privilege of working for him - and were grateful for it! - cityslickerGoing get shot down but been less than £2 in London for decades. As low as 90p in the 00's. Now £1.65 and also allows you to change bus if you do it within the first hour for no extra charge. Primary school kids and oldies are also free (even those who dont live in London)
About time the rest of the country were included (edited)cityslickerLondon Buses are privatised too. Our local buses in West London are run by the French government arm RATP. Differnce is they Transport for London own complete control. RATP just "run" the network.
It seems to work though. London Buses are pretty good. Although we"ve had some recent cuts in routes due to the pandemic.
Bus ridership is still high. Even though there are options like the tube and national rail.
The integrated system and the Travelcard system certainly helps. You just use any mode of transport all day unlimited for £11.00 - rambo_or_markThis will save me £0 per year and put the gov in more debt that I’ll have to pay off with heavier taxes. Great. Ice cold.
- Speculator Author17 February 2023 We intend to extend the £2 bus fare cap until 30 June 2023. (edited)Sunglasses_RonExcellent!
- NewForestMonkeyBrainsWe do get stung for public travel in the UK.
We pay £8+ for a 12 mile return trip to our local city. Similar price for a 1 mile ferry trip to same place.
We've just paid 15 euros (around £13.50) for two people to go from Salou to Barcelona on a train.a distance of approx 67 miles. If public transport was cheaper, then we would get out of our cars.RealhoneymanI came back from Barcelona last week. Local buses were €2.40 for a single journey (same if you got the right ticket that would cover you for bus/furnicular/tram/train). It was also €4.60 for a single train journey to the airport from Passieg de Gracia which I thought was fair.
English public transport companies are catching on with cheap bus travel. LNER offer decent single fairs for short trips (Wakefield to Leeds for £2.20). The problem is different train companies charge different prices for the same journey (LNER is the cheapest, then Northern Rail followed by Cross Country).
UK transport companies will eventually match those in some of our fellow countries; they're just slow on the uptake and want to maximise profit. - tonypop£2 ? is that to travel to the local shopping centre to heat yourself up before it closes down?RonMIssue is bus takes say 80 people.. That's it.
If people did warm up at shopping centre.. For last bus.. The bus would be full at shopping centre and.. No one can get on rest of route - GordonGekkoI remember when a bus journey was just 30pDeals_GaloreDon’t get me started on the size of chocolate bars nowadays
- TristanDeCoonhaBut how will the bus companies get their money? If they are getting it through government subsidy, then what is the point, as it means you are paying for it anywayfireman1It means people that dont use the buses are paying for it.
- hypaedMy boss works in London and I work in Manchester.
It's cheaper for us both to meet in France than for either of us to travel by train 🤪
About time they started figuring out it's expensive - ChiptivoFair play to the Government, great incentive and help.NewboldThe same lot that took all the money away in the first place and left huge areas of the country without access to any public transport at all?
- clax6This isn't a good thing.clax6Because it’s another sign of how bad things are.
- kos1cHow much is a bus in London? I haven't used one in almost a decade. Was like £1.70?BesfordRead the thread!
- ghosthorpSomething needs to be done for trains and railways too.MattMacThe justification for train fares being higher than bus fares is that they are most commonly used for commuting to larger cities where the pay tends to be more. Busses tend to be travelling more in the local area for local work, shopping and leisure. (edited)
- mr_bargainBuses expensive and rubbish over here, always empty. Tenerife, new buses and about €1.20 a journey, always busy.furious1yAlmost as if publicly owned services are run at cost, not for profit.
- MalabusWhen I went to school it was 10p return.stafoWhat's 'school'?
- romanburasc449a[deleted]tonypopWhat are you actually on about? Lothian buses or possibly best in Britain.
- Mobb_DeepStill need to return
And I just tired of paying £5 to basically go the cinema and back, 3 miles (6 miles total)
Even at £4 its still way too much for basically from one town to the next
Couldn't imagine paying my local bus prices if I had to rely on them for work also much slowerMobb_DeepWell I have a E Scooter but haven't really rode it at all I couldn't really take it last time because it was dark outside and raining and didn't want to leave it outside in the dark for hours (worried about theft though looking back I could have just asked to store it behind the counter or locked up inside if they let me)
But from now on forget busses and trams and I'm using my E Scooter as I bought it to replace Tram usage I would still say it will take me the same amount of time
I would say 15min for gentle pedalling on a bike is a bit low
It took me that to go and from school which was half that not so gentle pedalling because of people, crossing roads, etc - The_KurganAnyone looking at Yorkshire and Humber and confused by the number of routes in West Yorkshire not covered by this Gov scheme, will be pleased to know that West Yorkshire have been in their own £2 'Mayers Fares' capped scheme since Sept 2022 and the Day Tickets previously available have been combined so you can travel on both First and Arriva buses, and it's cheaper at £4.50.
- scuzzlebuttThe only issue is there won't be any seats on the bus this winter because pensioners with bus passes to travel for free ride them all day long purely so they can get a heat.Ian_D123can't really see many doing that. maybe they will use the bus to go to one of those nice fancy indoor heated shopping centres and spend the day in there instead.
- Meeshsaltsi live in west yorkshire and this offer starts this month thanks to our mayoralcopopIf you used the app, it was £2.00 for a single trip before. After 7pm it used to be a £1.00, I think that then when up to £1.60, currently is £1.40.
- cat_laWill this apply to kids too? My daughters bus to school is £3 each way which is ridiculous especially as we are encouraged to stop so much school traffic by using public transport.SophiaskyI live in Exeter (Devon) and here they do a child's Day Rider ticket (unlimited travel around the entire City for £3.10. For a child's Day Rider Plus ticket (unlimited travel again, but the area also extends to nearby towns as well, ie, Okehampton, Cullompton (about 15 miles from Exeter) and Teignmouth), this ticket cost £4.20. Have you looked into the various bus tickets available where you live - if they do similar tickets, one of them could be cheaper than paying out £6 a day for her to get to school? (edited)
- duncanb1973with this you will save a few pounds if you usually take the bus, will probably save nothing if you have a weekly/monthly pass, and if you never or rarely use the bus a 50p or so saving is hardly going to persuade you to walk from your home to your bus stop, hope the bus comes in time and do the reverse later adding an hour or so to your journey. Good idea in principle but not at the £2 level,The_KurganI don't think the main focus of this is to tempt people on to public transport, I think the main purpose is to help slightly reduce the cost of living pressures for those already having to regularly rely on public transport.There is a small mention of tempting people onto buses to reduce carbon emissions, but think most regular users are just glad of reduced fares for a while. To properly tempt people onto the bus they need to address the bus 'ghosting' that happens far too frequently for people trying to get to and from work. (edited)
- brandocrispimCrunchyFrogVarious Go ... companies routes are listed as included, and not included here:
gov.uk/gui…cap - normalWatch bus companies introduce £2 flat fares
- john_williamOh the joy. A cap for 3 months. What happens after that. Let me guess a strike from tfl because they have no more money
I know a train driver who earns 82k a year, work 3 days a week, class as experience, gets 40days hols a year, yet always moans he skint. Lol... Fml (edited)merdemoipasHow many people working in the financial industry do you know who do half as much, earn twice as much, and moan just as much! - beaufinder1Germany did it trains and buses for 9 euro a monthshazarAnd they have stopped it as it was costing too much money for the tax payer.
- furious1yLet's see - starve all councils of money for 12 years, leading to a token bus service which hardly anyone uses any more - my father gave up getting a bus pass as an hourly expensive service is pointless to go 2-3 miles when you can cycle.
So hooray for privatisation and austerity!
How about the energy companies being left to die and then nationalised? And the trains. And the water utilities. The thatcher neoliberalism experiment has truly failed, proving that privatisation does not work, and they are worse than public owned as they run a worse service to make a profit... - DealJournoToo little, too late from this shower.
- ImtiThe cost of a day saver is £4, and if travelling by bus you need a minimum of 2 journeys so it essentially works out the same. I would cap the single journey at £1 to make it worthwile!manojldsWhere though? It's 4.7 in Nottingham. So if you are taking only two rides it's a 0.7 saving.
- Molloy4UJust nationalise it again and admit they got it wrong. Again.
- pikachu545Why 3 months only?Anonymous Userheating at home will be used less, its to help during hard times, corporate companies trying to help not be a charity
if its cheaper to drive then drive - thaliarLudicrous idea! Anyone who needs to go to work daily on the bus will buy a monthly pass - £78 here in Bristol (& that includes unlimited travel for weekends & evenings too) Might save the odd £ here & there for casual users but hardly compensates for £400 a month fuel bills. Makes me so angry - rich politicians sitting around thinking they'll save the 'poor' a few quid on the nasty buses they have to use because they can't afford a nice car 😡bananabandanaYeah. Doubt this will do much for commuters.
What public transport needs is to be public then we can invest in it properly. Private sector clearly failed us. - jazferbetayNothing like this in Scotland for flat cap fare for the working peopleashyt16turboNo, but you get everything else for free.
- Username50Not a deal. Cold.sdaniaalMore like a crappy public service announcement
- iMissThe2010sdoesn't do anything about lack of routes, terrible scheduling. Literally putting a plaster on a severed arm. also doesn't apply to return journeys lmao.
Another pathetic attempt by the almighty clueless Grant shapps.BillyBurner - Grazz0rIn Belgium I can get the bus for 1 euro 80 and this gives ninety minutes of travel with unlimited changes during that time. This has been the price for years.NewboldAhh…but we’ve governments for 12 years that don’t give a damn about public transport.
Those under £2 won't be affected by the cap e.g if you pay £1.80, then you'll still pay £1.80.
Millions across England will save money through a new £2 cap on single bus journeys from January to March 2023, backed by up to £60 million to ensure affordable transport across the country.
The Transport Secretary has today (3 September 2022) announced the government will provide up to £60 million from January to March next year, to help bus operators to cap single adult fares at £2 per journey.
The move will help passengers with travel costs for work, education, shopping and medical treatments over the winter months while they are facing pressures from the rising cost of living.
Bus fares vary across different parts of the country and between bus operators, and can even reach almost £6 for a single journey in rural areas. The new cap means passengers in those areas could save more than £60 a month if they took 4 single trips a week.
The average single fare for a 3-mile journey is estimated at over £2.80, meaning that the new fare will save passengers almost 30% of the price every time they travel.
Introducing the fare cap by January enables the government to work with operators and local authorities to implement a scheme that most effectively delivers real savings for passengers. Operators representing around 90% of the bus market have expressed support for the scheme and we hope that all bus operators will participate.
The fare cap builds on lots of offers around the country in areas with high bus demand, which include daily, weekly and monthly ticket options and promotional offers. Single fares which are already lower than £2 will not be affected by the cap.
The government will continue to work closely with bus operators and local authorities and consider future support to help passengers continue accessing reliable and affordable bus services after March.
A flat-rate bus pilot scheme, backed by £23.5 million of government funding, launched in Cornwall this January and has already seen an indicative 10% increase in passenger numbers. The ‘Any Ticket Any Bus’ scheme, running over 4 years, includes a £3 day ticket within towns or a £9 day ticket across all of Cornwall, which is valid across different bus operators.
Dawn Badminton-Capps, Director for England for charity Bus Users, said:
The cap on fares being announced today will bring welcome, short-term relief to the millions of people who rely on buses to access education, employment and health services. Buses make a vital contribution to society and government support is critical in protecting services for the future.Paul Tuohy, Chief Executive of Campaign for Better Transport, said:
This will be very welcome news for the millions of people who rely on the bus to get to work, to the shops, to medical appointments and to connect with friends and family. It will also encourage more people to find their nearest bus stop and give the bus a try… where could YOU go for just £2?
Buses have great potential to cut traffic and carbon emissions, to connect communities and ease loneliness. This £2 fare cap – which we have called for – will help set buses on the road to a bright future.Alison Edwards, Policy Director at the Confederation of Passenger Transport:
Bus fare caps at £2 are an eye-catching initiative which could help attract new passengers onto the bus, particularly at a time when networks are adapting to new travel patterns, and both customers and operators are facing cost of living and business cost challenges.
We look forward to understanding in detail how the proposed fare cap will work in practice to ensure it supports the long-term sustainability of bus networks, which are vital in connecting communities with jobs, education and skills, as well as friends, family and essential public services.