Direct Return flight to San Francisco (Departing LHR / Nov - Dec departures) - £313.61 @ Virgin Atlantic

Walked through there a few times during the day and at night, and not the best place to be honest.
Go over the Bay Bridge to Oakland and lots of homeless tent cities around the Metro station.
Then again, same in Honolulu etc.

San Francisco isn't too bad a place. Expensive a lot of the time, although some hotels can be decently priced from time to time - visit the Farmer's Market at the Ferry Building on say Sat morning to see things such as a organic carrot for £8 or something stupid like that

Buses are easy to use to get from say Market Street to Alamo Square (Painted Ladies / Victorian houses); nice walk up to Twin Peaks; The Presidio; Golden Gate Park; Ocean Beach (nice trail past the baths to Baker Beach where the bridge picture was taken, to the bridge, Vista Point, Sausalito etc.)
If you stay in the main tourist areas, it's fine. Always people about.

Shopping wise, it sucks. Not much there to be honest.

Best to spend a couple of days there and rent a car to drive to Muir Woods, Yosemite, or down the PCH to LA via Monterey etc.
Or as someone said, up north to Oregon and maybe Seattle.

It's like Santa Monica. Too many homeless people, run down with lots of closed shops although hotel prices are still $$$$.
Easier to stay elsewhere and get the Metro or pay $1.75 for the Big Blue Bus from the airport area.

As for New York having a lot of drug issues, can't say I've really seen anything (bar a couple of big trucks selling "medicinal" marijuana and related products).
Piccadilly Gardens area in Manchester yes!
Mainly weed in California. You'll smell it everywhere, and plenty of places selling it. Even had someone with a tray of joints walk through the carriages on my Metro train selling it. (edited)

Same every time a Los Angeles/San Francisco deal comes up. "I read on Twitter that everyone is homeless or gets murdered!" etc etc

Went last year and don't get me wrong, it was good and nice sights to see etc but my god the drug problems. I saw stuff there I have never seen in my life living in the UK. Extremely grim.

Thanks for the anecdotal evidence

We did that in 2020. Great holiday. SF , Monterey, LA, Palm Springs, Vegas, Yosemite

And he said this about Manchester...

I would like to live in Manchester. The transition between Manchester and Death would be unnoticeable.

Possibly just a grumpy get.

Stay on plane

What-a-ya mean, I went there in 1952, safest place ever. All this scaremongering has to stop. When I was walking down the street somebody just stuffed $50 into my pocket and ran off. Nicest place I've ever been to. They love letting off non-light polluting fireworks all through the day and night, that's how progressive it is there, sounds a lot like guns but it's a gun-free city so there's no way it's that. Democrat run for over 100 years so obviously it's a utopia and, just, just.... lovely!

Apparently even if you just leave a jumper on the back seat, your car will get robbed.

Guess we were lucky then. Over 10 years in SF and 20 on the west coast and never had a car broken into once.

You could say the same about Manchester or London

Is it really that suprising? They're the biggest airports. Not like London or Manchester is hard to get to from anywhere in the UK including Northern Ireland

as long as that keeps the prices down i dont mind. we did Miami and caribbean for 3 weeks with just hand luggage carry on. 56cm bags.

[citation needed]

It's a killer. £30 for the most basic of breakfast for two in SF. Two eggs and some toast and coffee. And that's not including tip!

Good olevdays

Is that not just Twitter?

Every city in the world has these problems, plenty of places in New York where you’ll find homeless people passed out on drugs. No way the place has completely changed in the space of 15 years, I’m sure it’s slightly worse as is most of the world today.
This is a great deal and I’m sure most people would have a great time.

yes highs of 14-18 c

Great tip; spent a week in Tahoe once and skied a number of resorts all easy to reach.

I’d fly with BA …. Much better