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Dell WYSE 5070 mini PC (Celeron J4105, 8GB RAM) Used - £99 @ finity.trading / eBay
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This deal is expired. Here are some options that might interest you:
A great alternative to Rasperry Pi 4 (massively overpriced and constantly out of stock these days), especially if you are looking for a small server or a simple desktop PC - Wyse 5070 are fantastic and often overlooked mini PCs.
Wyse 5070 devices are generally 'thin clients' - usually running a minimalistic OS (like ThinOS), used to connect to remote desktop sessions (via RDP / Citrix / VMware Horizon and similar), but in fact this particular model is a fully featured x86 PC, with a regular BIOS/UEFI and standard Intel hardware - so you can install any 'normal' OS on it. Ubuntu and Windows 10 are officailly supported.
- The Celeron J4105 CPU is rougly 2x faster than chip on Raspberry Pi 4, on the level on a relatively modern, low-power dual-core Intel Core chip (like i3-7100U) or older quad core chip l(like i7-740QM). It is not a beast, but still a much more capable desktop / server than Pi can ever be and perfectly usable as a basic PC.
- 8GB RAM is upgradable - there are 2x regular DDR4 SODIMM slots available (same form factor as for laptops)
- Power consumption is just 5W-10W, depending on the load - pretty much identical to Pi 4
- There is a build-in 16GB MMC storage, which is enough for a small Linux desktop / server, but also M.2 SATA slot, which you can use for expansion
- There is an additional M.2 port for WiFi / BT, you can put el-cheapo £5-10 card there if you want
- 2x DP video outputs (each capable of 4K@60Hz)
- 10x USB ports, including 6x of 3.0 flavour and 1x USB C.
- Integrated UHD 600 graphics is quite capable (so much more than Pi4's) - with DX12, OpenGL/CL, Vulkan and HEVC encoding/decoding support (Gen 9.5 QuickSync)
Great as a Plex or Home Assistant server, pfSense router, docker containers hosts / Linux server or just a lightweight Linux / Windows 10 desktop. You can technically even run Proxmox / ESXi on it, to squeeze the hardware to the max.
(there are a few other - but less reputable - sellers on eBay offering the device around the same price, these 5070 are a fantastic value for money)
Wyse 5070 devices are generally 'thin clients' - usually running a minimalistic OS (like ThinOS), used to connect to remote desktop sessions (via RDP / Citrix / VMware Horizon and similar), but in fact this particular model is a fully featured x86 PC, with a regular BIOS/UEFI and standard Intel hardware - so you can install any 'normal' OS on it. Ubuntu and Windows 10 are officailly supported.
- The Celeron J4105 CPU is rougly 2x faster than chip on Raspberry Pi 4, on the level on a relatively modern, low-power dual-core Intel Core chip (like i3-7100U) or older quad core chip l(like i7-740QM). It is not a beast, but still a much more capable desktop / server than Pi can ever be and perfectly usable as a basic PC.
- 8GB RAM is upgradable - there are 2x regular DDR4 SODIMM slots available (same form factor as for laptops)
- Power consumption is just 5W-10W, depending on the load - pretty much identical to Pi 4
- There is a build-in 16GB MMC storage, which is enough for a small Linux desktop / server, but also M.2 SATA slot, which you can use for expansion
- There is an additional M.2 port for WiFi / BT, you can put el-cheapo £5-10 card there if you want
- 2x DP video outputs (each capable of 4K@60Hz)
- 10x USB ports, including 6x of 3.0 flavour and 1x USB C.
- Integrated UHD 600 graphics is quite capable (so much more than Pi4's) - with DX12, OpenGL/CL, Vulkan and HEVC encoding/decoding support (Gen 9.5 QuickSync)
Great as a Plex or Home Assistant server, pfSense router, docker containers hosts / Linux server or just a lightweight Linux / Windows 10 desktop. You can technically even run Proxmox / ESXi on it, to squeeze the hardware to the max.
(there are a few other - but less reputable - sellers on eBay offering the device around the same price, these 5070 are a fantastic value for money)
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Edited by lello, 15 June 2022
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5070 is a good option if you want to spend as little as possible and still get a very decent mini machine, dramatically better than overpriced Pi right now...
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Or the Nvidia Jetson.
Or the many others
This pc looks underspecced for all use cases and I would strongly suggest something else!
For running a retro system using a linux based OS, it will be pretty good. But for using as a main desktop, no.
One thing that puts me off, is the eMMC storage. I've had dealings with other devices where they have failed (chromebooks). You can't change it as it's SMD.
Can you set the bios to ignore the on-board eMMC and only boot directly from the M.2?
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- an old thinkpad
- a housebrick
literally anything would be better than paying £100 for a Celeron J4105
I have also upgraded to a fully fledged PC as my server rather then relaying on the Raspberry Pi. I have one of the Lenovo tiny PC's and it works wonderfully. Been running Proxmox on it for years without a hitch.
On top of that, CPU in Pi is extermelly lacklustre, even compared to low power 'real' x86 alternatives like in this deal and GPU (Videocore) is just a joke... (vs alternatives form Inte/NVIDA/AMD, with a very stable and capable drivers and seamless support in any modern OS).
Also, having a real UEFI/BIOS available with a standard x86 architecture helps too. (edited)
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Only thing is which one to go for & can they take a number of SSD's to bump up the space in them?
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(plus you got years and years of software updates) (edited)
Cant comment on performance as yet as awaiting SSD for Windows/Linux install.
Was after a cheap linux box to use as a router. This will do perfectly.
Great find OP, thanks! (edited)
Buy Now, Celeron Later.
intel.co.uk/con…989
~10% higher clock on j5005 and a slighly beefier GPU (QuickSync is the same though), other than that Pentium J5005 / Celeron J4105 are identical