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3.6kW 48V Complete Off-grid Kit: 12 x 300W solar panels, 5000W hybrid inverter, 24kwh battery £6699.99 at Photonics Universe / ebay

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kit includes 5000w inverter, 3.6kwh panels, 24kwh batteries and wiring diagram.
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  1. jumpinoffthbed's avatar
    jumpinoffthbed
    How has the price of this stuff not come down in 8 years? My whole install was 5.5k for a 4kw system with a decent Bluetooth inverter with 7yr warranty, all the scaffolding, necessary paperwork & certificates & trained installers. No battery included but the one here looks like it belongs in a museum.
    The 1 year warranty on it all makes this a massive gamble in my eyes & I can't see why anyone go for this deal?
    Solar is a great investment but I think going about it this way isn't wise.
    phoenix__'s avatar
    phoenix__
    What inverter do you have?
  2. halecrater's avatar
    halecrater
    There are options for people to avoid the rip off prices charged by solar companies.
    1, buy 4-6 panels and fit yourself to a shed/garage and buy an inverter. Ideal self install with youtube videos if you have power already into the garage etc.
    2, buy the equipment and pay a roofer to install panels and pay an electrician to install the rest. You won’t get MCS certificate that way so you can’t sell excess electricity back BUT the install saving outweighs that.
    Note self installation is legal. Helpful DIY solar groups on facebook etc.
  3. Keep-it-Tea's avatar
    Keep-it-Tea
    i have 12 panels on my house (including the extension) all facing the sun (when its out).
    in the 3 years my 'super effecient panels' in effect has paid for just the lighting in the house.

    The TV, shower, cooker, computers, laptops etc is all still being paid to EON

    My opinion is that Solar panels are really the most worthless investment ever.
    jrw's avatar
    jrw
    Sounds like an issue with your install.

    Last year my Panels produced 5673kwh..........a little more than keeping the lights on.


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    My opinion is that solar panels are really the most worthy investment ever.

  4. JDUBWARK's avatar
    JDUBWARK
    As the owner of a solar business this is far from a deal - if you were going DIY you would want to be paying a lot less - this is getting close to fully installed MCS certified by us prices
    EggEgg's avatar
    EggEgg
    How close?
  5. Keep-it-Tea's avatar
    Keep-it-Tea
    Solar is just not for the British clime in my opinion.

    Complete waste of money and time, like i said earlier if energy to light my house and thats it, as for heating, washing, cooking etc i still relie on the grid.

    Dont get me wrong in the years and years to come maybe it may all come good.

    Solar would be ideal in Africa and Asia with an abundence of sunlight. But the west will never allow countires like India, Iran, North Africa to dominate world influence purely on power generation.

    But as for now its a shambles that people are all jumping onto - renewables cannot power the UK fully.

    Better insulate your house and forget the solar........................for now!
    tek-monkey's avatar
    tek-monkey
    Working great here, I suspect you got sold a lemon. March has been rubbish but still had 15kWh some days, so completely self sufficient. For the other days I charge at night for a fraction of the price cap.
  6. Kal_Sol's avatar
    Kal_Sol
    Definitely a premium price tag for something that looks like it is from Poundland. Even Tesla provides a longer warranty period. There are some better solar DIY kits out there for a fairer price, not to mention that there are also some complete solutions for a fractionally higher cost with some proper warranty.
    Nick_Manhota's avatar
    Nick_Manhota
    Can you post the better kits at a fairer price??
  7. Orange_swan's avatar
    Orange_swan
    Just invest in a log burner .(as most people have an electric heater or two in their house ?) And people do chop trees and advertise free to take away. Keep it to yourself & don't tell anyone (edited)
    daddybr00's avatar
    daddybr00
    Log burners are vile, ruinous to your health and that of your neighbours. I would gladly see them eradicated.
  8. GypoJon's avatar
    GypoJon
    Had 4.6KW install done last summer for @ £7K - with 5.2KW batteries the total came to £10.5K fully installed and MCS certified (which you need in order to feed back into the Grid )- got in before prices went up last year.
    These look like old panels - not a great deal and don’t forget you need to be certified to take advantage of the feed back tarrifs on offer
  9. RickyWong's avatar
    RickyWong
    Holy crap 24kwh of battery. That’s a decent storage.

    Those panels are really really old. 300w panels have been a main stream thing for like 5/6yrs. Most common panels are 420w nowadays. Also those batteries are lead acid chemistry means you will have quite high degradation if you go over 50% utilisation and discharge. And being lead acid the charging current will be low - otherwise risking damaging the batteries.

    In all fairness, wouldn’t touch this system with a barge pole unless you think you can get all your returns back within 5yrs (edited)
  10. shamedbear3's avatar
    shamedbear3
    I recently took this camping and got to smile at everyone paying an extra fiver for the electric hookup
  11. jrw's avatar
    jrw
    These are only 300w panels. You can get 400w+ panels now, these are old unsold stock gathered together for ebay specials.
    PsychoSonny's avatar
    PsychoSonny
    True but the price looks good to be fair. The inverter is ocerspecced so you can add more panels at a later date
  12. klaus.basingher's avatar
    klaus.basingher
    Half the value would be in the batteries. Standing charge for electric has gone up to absurd levels so the incentive for me would be to get rid of the electric meter, my usage is down to 2kw a day, sometimes half that but even in the south the weather is not consistent enough to rely on, could get a week without any sun. Some panels do work in the shade so 3.6kw might generate 200-400Wh on a cloudy day which might keep the batteries ticking over but you have to research into the latest panels to find which work best. Ex factory price of panels in China is 20p a watt and panels are 500-600W each, so costs in the UK are hopelessly bloated. On Aliexpress they add twenty percent VAT but not sure if that is the correct rate. DIY installs are legal as long as they are not interfaced with the existing supply but insurance might not be valid if something goes bang! (edited)
    PsychoSonny's avatar
    PsychoSonny
    Even at 50p a day that's only £180 a year to have leccy supplied to your house and to maintain the entire network and infrastructure. It's not as big as your making out. As you say even after spending £10k you will still be connected to the network as during winter you would be running off fumes and unable to do anything
  13. RobMotoring's avatar
    RobMotoring
    No way on earth would I pay that much for a basic self install kit like this. The battery rack looks like something you would knock up yourself from halfords. A full proper warranty backed and certified install can’t be much more than this and would be worth the extra IMO.
  14. Daryl_Edwards's avatar
    Daryl_Edwards
    I’m currently installing one right now if anyone wants to pay me 6k for
    12 panels.
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  15. penthaus's avatar
    penthaus
    How much you reckon for installation?
    chigger1's avatar
    chigger1
    Not an expert, but when previously quoted for - it was around this maybe a little more *including* installation on the roof & permits, energy certificates etc.
  16. flystarjay's avatar
    flystarjay
    how many days of electricity do you guys get with your own solar panel? (edited)
  17. Orange_swan's avatar
    Orange_swan
    Pass
  18. BadCredit's avatar
    BadCredit
    I would have ignored this deal last year. But current energy costs mean that the time for 'return on investment' is greatly reduced.
  19. brendanb581's avatar
    brendanb581
    No thanks 😁
  20. candi's avatar
    candi
    I've been looking at these types of things and cannot see the value
    anyone got a website that can accurately give proper figures?
    we live in the borders and it rains a lot not like the south
    Infiltrator's avatar
    Infiltrator
    49885937-kBaF4.jpghere's our systems output for March, typically we'll use about 14kwh a day in the house, our heating is oil fired boiler. We're 15 miles north of Aberdeen.
    We have a solar divertor that sends any excess to the immersion in our HW tank, remaining excess sold to Octopus.
    12 x 400w panels, 3.6kw inverter, £5.5k install last sept, £5k interest free loan over 5 years from Scottish government.
  21. candi's avatar
    candi
    thanks for that our electric bill is around £100 a month and we dont use much in the day
    a work colleague said his neighbour had a install on his garage and it will take 17 years to pay for itself I would like to see his figures
    sadly we get some of the lowest amount of sunshine in the UK
  22. Geo_Dogger's avatar
    Geo_Dogger
    I use around 150kwh a month of electricity, is it worth getting solar?
    jrw's avatar
    jrw
    Unlikely as it would take a good while to pay back unless you had a battery and went on something like Octopus Flux tariff.
  23. jrw's avatar
    jrw
    Are Solar panels worth it?

    Absolutely if you use enough electric to justify it. I wouldn't be buying these ones though!

    "they don't work in the UK"

    I am currently sat in the middle of Storm Mathis down here in Cornwall, its pouring with rain and:
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    Yes, that's 1.5kw of solar being generated during rain.

    I would suggest doing your own research though rather than listening to some of the absolutely nonsense and incorrect comments on here such as exporting electric is impossible.
    PsychoSonny's avatar
    PsychoSonny
    What has rain got to do with solar?

    I have solar panels too. And if I'm being honest 8 months of the year they produce next to bugger all. Especially December. In fact I just checked in December they produced a grand total of 23kwh so less than 1kwh per day. And in June they produced over 10 times that amount.

    Anyone thinking solar means that you can live off grid or not pay for leccy every again is having a giraffe unless you are putting a massive 100kw array on your farmland and have £20k worth of batteries for winter.
  24. jevgenij.cebotariov's avatar
    jevgenij.cebotariov
    very overpriced.. aliexpress much cheaper.. self install
  25. myotherusernameisclean's avatar
    myotherusernameisclean Author
    Has anybody found any cheaper?
    I cannot see anyone posting links to anything even near equivalent for someone looking for an off-grid solution.


    I am pretty sure you can buy cheaper if you buy direct from China on aliexpress without warranty. But that applies to any and everything!
    tek-monkey's avatar
    tek-monkey
    This isn't really off grid, what do you do in winter?

    Spend another 1k or so and at least get more modern batteries and panels, maybe something like this:

    energian.co.uk/pro…398
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