Verbatim MDISC BDXL - 100 GB, 4 times the burn speed with lifelong archiving, 5 pieces in a jewel case £25.44 @ Amazon Germany

My only concern is wasting a disk at £5 each. If a DVD fails to burn correctly it's only 50p wasted. (edited)

Cheaper, easier, and more convenient to just use portable HDDs for backups. I've done that for years. Recently got another 4TB drive for £55. Miles better and far less messing about.

rav4cas25/03/2022 19:21

My only concern is wasting a disk at £5 each. If a DVD fails to burn …My only concern is wasting a disk at £5 each. If a DVD fails to burn correctly it's only 50p wasted.Read lessRead more

I remember the days when you were burning a CD then Norton or some equally aggressive program emptied your buffer mid-write! I can’t say I’ve touched an optical disk for years though now.

rav4cas25/03/2022 20:21

I still use optical disks for backing up things like photos and documents. …I still use optical disks for backing up things like photos and documents. They are however also backed up on a portable hard drive. Would probably trust the disks over the drive.Read lessRead more

I just use redundant devices now, I don’t have access to a burner any more and I’ve noticed some supposed archival grade CD-R and DVD-R media has degraded since I burned them must have been 15-20 years ago.

kobrakaan125/03/2022 19:32

These are still too expensive to be practical, but think that's …These are still too expensive to be practical, but think that's intentional otherwise we would be back to the mass saturation of pirate DVDs age I remember when CDR blanks and 4.7gb DVD-R blanks were really expensive in single units Now you can grab stack of 100 4.7gb DVD-R for about £20 or less Read lessRead more

I can remember buying printable DVD's for way cheaper than that years ago.

I think people saying "just use a portable hard disk" are imagining a different use case than these are intended for. If these are left in their case, they will likely still be readable after 15 years. In a modern magnetic hard disk, at least one of the smaller lead-free solder joints on a chipset will have likely failed after 15 years, even if the hard disk is kept in a temperature controlled cupboard, and the platter succumbed to "bit rot" as cosmic rays flip some of the magnetic encoded bits.

plewis0025/03/2022 20:16

I remember the days when you were burning a CD then Norton or some equally …I remember the days when you were burning a CD then Norton or some equally aggressive program emptied your buffer mid-write! I can’t say I’ve touched an optical disk for years though now.Read lessRead more

You just reminded me how amazing it was many years ago upgrading to a new Creative CD-RW with buffer under run protection.

Gorbalsbhoy25/03/2022 20:48

I can remember buying printable DVD's for way cheaper than that years …I can remember buying printable DVD's for way cheaper than that years ago.Read lessRead more

Ritek G05 by any chance? I had an Epson Disc printer too

tempted as managed to find someone who uploaded HD Widescreen versions of the entire Dawsons Creek series with the original music but each episode is like 3GB

rav4cas25/03/2022 19:21

My only concern is wasting a disk at £5 each. If a DVD fails to burn …My only concern is wasting a disk at £5 each. If a DVD fails to burn correctly it's only 50p wasted.Read lessRead more

These are still too expensive to be practical, but think that's intentional otherwise we would be back to the mass saturation of pirate DVDs age


I remember when CDR blanks and 4.7gb DVD-R blanks were really expensive in single units

Now you can grab stack of 100 4.7gb DVD-R for about £20 or less

plewis0025/03/2022 20:16

I remember the days when you were burning a CD then Norton or some equally …I remember the days when you were burning a CD then Norton or some equally aggressive program emptied your buffer mid-write! I can’t say I’ve touched an optical disk for years though now.Read lessRead more

I still use optical disks for backing up things like photos and documents. They are however also backed up on a portable hard drive. Would probably trust the disks over the drive.

plewis0025/03/2022 20:23

I just use redundant devices now, I don’t have access to a burner any more …I just use redundant devices now, I don’t have access to a burner any more and I’ve noticed some supposed archival grade CD-R and DVD-R media has degraded since I burned them must have been 15-20 years ago.Read lessRead more

Just looked at a DVD written in 2003 and it's fine. Think I will copy it onto a new DVD just in case it degrades.

BarnSt0rmer25/03/2022 21:49

Not to mention the fact that if you drop a DVD on the floor it's almost …Not to mention the fact that if you drop a DVD on the floor it's almost certainly going to be absolutely fine. Drop a 4TB external HDD on the floor - say bye bye to the £50+ drive plus your 4TB of data.Read lessRead more

but any person who uses good practice will have the drive backed up and can get another drive and copy it across

plus over time, people will usually get more data and with drives generally getting bigger and cheaper over time, move/upgrade to new bigger drives over time, so in reference to the 15 year period someone mentioned, in 15 years, i can't imagine many people interested in data collection/backing up etc to the degree they would have a BDXL burner (as that was one of the more expensive and less available types of drives when BD burners became popular years ago) and buy discs to burn data, would not be properly backing up data on HDD and upgrading drives so over time the old data is shifted to newer drives

i used to burn a lot of discs and even have a couple of HDdvd/Bluray combo drives and even i never bothered with the BDXL drives, mainly as the media was way too expensive originally and HDD sizes were pretty big and reasonably priced at the time

instead of burning files to a disc to play and watch stuff on the tv, you can just stream with a firestick or android box with kodi or plex and you don't need to change discs etc

doggerthecat25/03/2022 21:27

I think people saying "just use a portable hard disk" are imagining a …I think people saying "just use a portable hard disk" are imagining a different use case than these are intended for. If these are left in their case, they will likely still be readable after 15 years. In a modern magnetic hard disk, at least one of the smaller lead-free solder joints on a chipset will have likely failed after 15 years, even if the hard disk is kept in a temperature controlled cupboard, and the platter succumbed to "bit rot" as cosmic rays flip some of the magnetic encoded bits.Read lessRead more

Not to mention the fact that if you drop a DVD on the floor it's almost certainly going to be absolutely fine. Drop a 4TB external HDD on the floor - say bye bye to the £50+ drive plus your 4TB of data.

I thought we’d progressed past these!

Coming up as €68 for me?

It was probably the price of one and not 5.

Showing €68.99 for me?

Are these a myth? Can they really last forever?

Is online storage not the way forward?

AzzaBDealories25/03/2022 20:13

Coming up as €68 for me?

Price is up again.

sv7026/03/2022 11:00

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That is excatly the use for them.