Does it have to be within the wall?
As there is not enough space to create a space for junction box to go in the wall, can the box be outside on the wall?
","comment":[{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/51446563","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"RoosterNo1"},"datePublished":"2023-11-15T15:56:59.000Z","text":"mmm, you may be right Gj9382
Id still prefer to disconnect it at the other end ! (which may well be another legal mire lol)"},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/51445734","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"wpj"},"datePublished":"2023-11-15T14:27:56.000Z","text":"I use these terminal blocks with enclosure on my kitchen cabinets- might fit there.
screwfix.com/p/d….ds"},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/51441038","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Willy_Wonka"},"datePublished":"2023-11-15T00:09:48.000Z","text":"If you want the proper advice then I should imagine it should be terminated under the floor boards if it is live & if it if left in the wall whilst being live then it should be in a junction box with a blank cover over it.
Else who is going to ever know if there is a live wire in the wall?
Someone will correct me if I am wrong."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/51441412","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"melted"},"datePublished":"2023-11-15T03:49:03.000Z","text":"What's with all the white cord stuff buried under the plaster? Has the previous owner actually used the proper twin and earth cable, or buried some sort of flex.
Also, have you checked what it is wired from and if it is protected by a fuse of the correct rating required by the mirror. If it is wired direct from the lighting circuit and if the mirror requires a lower rated fuse than used by the lighting circuit (probably 6 amp), then you'd need to fit a FCU.
First thing to do is to read up on whether Part P applies, if the connection is within the bathroom zones 0 - 2, I'm pretty sure any electrical work would fall foul of Part P, thus requiring a qualified electrician, possibly outside those zones, since they scrapped zone 3, it might be ok for a competent person to DIY, but you should check.
I'm not an electrician and haven't read the up on the regs in years, so you'd need to check, but possibly one option if it is outside special zones, might to be chisel out the wall for a metal back box and enclose the connection with a socket blanking plate, or a flex outlet, or a preferably unswitched FCU, if required.
You definitely can't bury terminal blocks, enclosed or not, nor any sort of junction box that uses screw terminals under plaster, would have to use permanent connections I believe, and then there would be the issue that you had a hidden cable in the wall that someone might bash a nail or drill into."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/51441426","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"RoosterNo1"},"datePublished":"2023-11-15T04:02:28.000Z","text":"Regs say you cannot do and DIY work in a bathroom...
Get a man in or your insurance is void."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/51445133","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"melted"},"datePublished":"2023-11-15T13:31:04.000Z","text":" The use of the word \"Bathroom\" is ambigious and not part of the regs.
I wondered about that, since you get sinks and shower cubicles installed in bedrooms too."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/51441099","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"aLV426"},"datePublished":"2023-11-15T00:23:15.000Z","text":"Regs for England state that it needs wired by a qualified/certified electrician, end off.
Common sense would dictate the minimum of a junction box - have you confirmed earth continuity? (or protective conductor as is the new parlance). Personally I would isolate the wire and remove any potential risks - it's not good practice to have non-terminated live feeds - how would someone know? Or how can it be traced, is it a dedicated feed, is it a spur, is it on the main socket ring, light ring or a dedicated feed. Makes no sense to have a live cable rattling about , either remove it or disconnect it."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/51441331","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Doug_"},"datePublished":"2023-11-15T02:05:11.000Z","text":"The coloured inner insulation and the connector should be enclosed and not on show. It’s not good to bury live wires in random places in the wall as you won’t know where to find or avoid them.
The easiest is to leave it behind the new cabinet."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/51485472","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"freedeals21"},"datePublished":"2023-11-18T19:12:29.000Z","text":"Hi All - you have been very helpful. I have managed to fix the back box and have sorted most of the things. Only question I had was - should I choose fuse 13A switch - that is fuse plate
screwfix.com/p/13a-unswitched-fused-spur-white/3524D?tc=VT7&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA3uGqBhDdARIsAFeJ5r2r1048_mm_n2EG5XGvcPRBAb_aQBWfN2OSC07lm5MoZgLNTSJTSCIaAiuDEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Or should I choose just a plain back plate?"},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/51506815","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"freedeals21"},"datePublished":"2023-11-20T17:38:49.000Z","text":"Hi - I had one more question, I have inherited two back boxes where the back boxes are cracked or broken. Could you guide if as per rules I should get them replaced before applying for EICR?
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