Posted 18 November 2023

I might get ridiculed but...watch out for Windows Update as of 17th Nov.

My PC is horrendously slow with everything after an Automatic Update I had last night 17th. I had an update installed on 16th and one on 15th but only got this mess after last night's reboot.

As yet I have not even tried to look into this, but am currently trying to uninstall it.

So yes I don't know what I'm talking about, but the PC is just a disaster. The only change was the Update.
I'm surprised I've made it to here just to suggest maybe a Google or something for the Update 17th Nov.

Might be a one off. Might not.
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  1. Meathotukdeals's avatar
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    Uninstalled it. Rebooted. Seems like back to normal. So looking like the 17th Update did the damage.
  2. Somersett's avatar
    Microsoft is implementing more and more intrusive software with their updates, many of which are also fully broken. The EU is already taking legal action against MS over this, and both Apple and MS are going to have to make massive changes to their policies in the EU in 2024/25. In the meantime, MS seeks to make hay.

    To make matters worse, Intel CPUs are completely broken, riddled with exploits that if fully patched, will literally drop their performance by 90% for an average part. Microsoft can force CPU updates, but given how badly this would impact Intel systems, there is obviously a giant dilemma. So compromise fixes are used on consumer PCs with all kinds of unexpected side-effects.

    Sadly the days of being able to just switch off Windows updates are long behind us. Along with the bad are essential elements that, if not installed, will create potential compatibility issues.

    PS if you system does go slow, check to ensure you are properly powering down Windows, and not just using sleep/hibernate mode. MS keeps forcing a fake power down setting that is really hibernate, and after an update you may need to Google how to reverse this, and select true power down again. Oh- and the reason MS does this? So it can remotely restart your PC and do things to it at will- something that cannot happen with a true power down.
    aLV426's avatar
    Yeah the targeted advertising is getting a bit ridiculous now.
    You can actually defer an update on Windows 10 (&11) for months. Deferring updates disables the installation of new features and new Windows 10 (or 11) versions however Security Updates can never be deferred. If this does not suit you should consider a different OS.
    MS do not remotely start your PC that's just scaremongering and misinformation - however if it detects that there is a battery power source when you select shutdown it captures a snapshot of your current status. It stores this as a hybrid power option (different to sleep & hibernate - this is referred to as Fast Startup) to enable fast boot times - it is explained in the small print. It's designed to enhance the end user experience, however it is a real pain in the enterprise environment as it fails to gracefully log out of sessions, resulting in log on scripts & GPOs from running correctly at "boot".
  3. bozo007's avatar
    I usually never install the updates automatically because of this. Give it a few weeks, see if it is stable by checking online and then install it. Unfortunately, this is not something a typical user will understand so it needs to be idiot proof.
  4. Willy_Wonka's avatar
    It wasn't a software update dated the 17th. It was a software update from the 15th or prior to that.

    Also if you have a HP machine they have had a recent bios update so that might have been downloading at the same time.
    Meathotukdeals's avatar
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    All I can say is that it was showing as being installed on that day. And I remember it because I had that little red dot thing bottom RHS of screen indicating it needed rebooting to apply an update. Normally I just put it on Sleep at the end of the day. It was a Security Update. Didn't write its specifics down (KB*****) and PC was so ridiculous I just wanted to get it working pronto.

    I've Paused Updates for as long as possible. Hopefully by that time it's working.
  5. Meathotukdeals's avatar
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    Sorry pal, I did see your reply but needed to get to look into this LTSC I've never heard of. So it gets very sparse updates? Case in point the Update that bombed my PC was a security Update. Would LTSC not get this? No is the answer according to your post. So isn't it vulnerable?
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