Posted 26 November 2023

Ofgem launches review on energy standing charges

Ofgem has launched a review of standing charges with feedback soliciated from consumers, amongst others. Please respond to James Crump via email to StandingCharges@ofgem.gov.uk or by phone at 020 7901 7295 no later than Fri, Jan 19, 2024.

Background - from Jan 1, 2024, the average daily standing charge will be 53p/day for electricity and 30p/day for gas. So £25 per month before consuming anything.

In my opinion, this is a ridiculous penalty on low consumption households. On one hand, one of the stated objectives of these charges is to pay for social schemes that help those who cannot afford energy. On the other hand, these charges penalise those who have cut consumption because they cannot afford it. Or households who have made a conscious effort to cut consumption from an environment perspective - we fall in the latter category and standing charges are now a significant portion of our monthly bill (used to be 14p/day total when our last fix expired in early 2021).

My view - either abolish standing charges completely or have them capped at a sensible number like 15p/day total. Second, have 3 consumption based price bands for the actual energy consumed - low consumers should pay at least 20% less than the cap / market, median pays at the cap and high can be 20% above the cap. Low consumption cut off can be the 20th percentile while high can be 80th percentile. This shouldn't affect any social benefits linked to income and will actually help those who cannot afford energy.
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  1. wherethetoolzat's avatar
    Everyone should share this on every platform here and social media , raise awareness , it's a complete rip off .
  2. Satchmo's avatar
    About time - its a way of the company's getting a guarranteed profit without supplying any energy , as they know, especially with gas, most of us hardly use any during the summer months. At one time a no standing charge rate was available, but, I do not think anyone does this.
    I just hope they come to the right conclusion, but, the downside is by how much will they increase the unit rate , so they still get the same return ?? (edited)
    bozo007's avatar
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    I would rather they raise the unit rate than pay a fixed fee every month. That way, people can decide (at least to some extent) how much they consume and therefore how much they pay. I think Utilita used to offer a zero standing charge tariff. (edited)
  3. ChilliPakoda's avatar
    Wish Ofgem could do something about this. They are already out powered by these giant cooperate sharks for more money greed.
    bozo007's avatar
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    Now is your opportunity to share your feedback.
  4. david_buttle's avatar
    Too much profit for Energy companies, compare to other countries, UK is a rip off. Works out that everyone pays about £300 a year for standing charges. I know that the company i use help out the people in debt etc, but i have reduced my usage to ensure i can pay my way. Worldwide Electricity Pricing | Energy Cost Per KWh in 230 Countries (cable.co.uk) it shows in USD not GBP but we are 5th most expensive in West Europe and as far back as 190th in the world for electricity.
    The cheapest electricity in Western Europe is in Norway, where the average price of one kWh is USD 0.093. The Åland Islands (USD 0.118) is the second cheapest in Western Europe followed by Andorra (USD 0.127). Denmark is the most expensive in the region at USD 0.350. The UK (USD 0.251) is the 5th most expensive in Western Europe and comes 190th in the world for cheap electricity.
    awesomegiles26's avatar
    The standing charge isn't an energy companies profit, this is a bundle of charges. This will include various third party costs, primarily charges from Distribution (DNO) and Transimison Network (National Grid).
    Ofgem usually sets a Supplier Margin cap, to prevent suppliers from incorporating and profiting significantly. For example Jul-22 the cap was announced at 1.9% (edited)
  5. Moss.b's avatar
    Yeah it's ridiculous, soon that will cost more than what we actually consume if nothing is done. Just greed from corporations.
  6. TristanDeCoonha's avatar
    Increasing the standing charges so that everyone has to pay for the defunct energy companies was wrong.
    The directors and shareholders walked away from the disasters, with the profits in their pockets, and without shouldering any responsibility.
    Gollywood's avatar
    They love a good bail out.

    But never a share-out when times are good!
  7. Bob24601's avatar
    The standing charge does cover a range of things, including infrastructure costs, ongoing maintenance etc.

    Whilst I can see the argument that low users should pay less, the cost of installing cables and maintaining them are exactly the same.

    It make sense for Ofgem to calculate what are 'standard costs' that all customers have to pay, and those that should be levied against the unit rate, so that low users have some form of discount because they are not using the service as much etc.
    bozo007's avatar
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    Unfortunately, maintenance costs aren't that different for low users. There is a case to be made to shift at least some of the real costs related to the infrastructure into the unit price. So those who consume less because of poverty can possibly use a bit more within the same budget while those who consume a lot more (and can probably afford it) carry a greater burden.
  8. abigsmurf's avatar
    The standing charges will just get paid another way. They're (mostly) the cost of actually being connected to the grid and being able to get electricity on demand. They were introduced because there were widespread complaints about complicated ("the first 251 units are Xp, the next 159 units are Yp, then everything else is Zp") payment structures. Then there's having to pay for energy companies to take on the debts of failed energy companies they had nothing to do with, but were forced to take over.

    With Smart Meters, variable rate pricing is much easier and costs can be tracked better so it possibly makes sense to move back to that old method.

    The idea that it will save money though is wishful thinking for the people with large bills. It's possible that a portion of people with low power usage will benefit but a large percentage will see their bills go up, and go up, some by a lot. People with heat pumps and people with large families who do lots of laundry and never go out for meals would get hit hardest as the unit price goes up to subsidise the costs paid for by standing charges. Also, people with low standing charges because it costs very little to keep them connected to the grid (people in high density population areas) may pay more because they now are taking on the costs of connecting isolated villages in rural Scotland where the lines are constantly battered by extreme weather.
  9. .MUFC.'s avatar
    If they reduce the standing charges, they'll increase the unit price to make up for it, Catch 22.
    innocent's avatar
    Yes, but if you are a low user it helps 💡
  10. Mark_Hickman's avatar
    Second idea is daft, theres people who are high consumers who are struggling more than low consumers.
    Should be the same price for everyone (edited)
    bozo007's avatar
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    High consumers will also get the low rate in the first slab. The rate slabs will work just like income tax on a progressive basis.
  11. themachman's avatar
    I remember the old system, you'd pay a higher rate for the first 100 units or so, then it would go down in price thereafter
    so, no standing charge i think? Or at least a small amount (edited)
    bozo007's avatar
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    And with smart meters more common, this method can be brought back.
  12. Moss.b's avatar
    Greed pure and simple. Nationalise it, remember to send your views. Not just discuss it here.
  13. Masonic111's avatar
    Money money money..
  14. Masonic111's avatar
    I’m that skint this Christmas I’ve just opened a door on my advent Calendar and a bailiff was standing there..
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