Anyone had one of these? Looks like no option but to pay, even though no indication whatsoever what the actual 'crime' was.","comment":[{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52420374","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"AndyRoyd"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T00:41:16.000Z","text":"Observation-only as have had no contact experience:
District Enforcement Ltd is a private company with Data Protection Registration reference: Z2376620.
Consider contacting DELs Data Protection Officer with a Subject Access Request demanding all personal information about the victim held by the company, including any video footage.
DELs DPO contact details is stated towards bottom of its privacy policy page at
district-enforcement.co.uk/pri…cy/
ICO info about SAR:
ico.org.uk/for…st/
and it is worthwhile reading what ICO expects of the organisation receiving the SAR, just in case the organisation overlooks one or two or more of its obligations:
ico.org.uk/for…ss/"},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52421245","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Roger_Irrelevant"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T08:09:39.000Z","text":"Ask on your local Facebook group(s) cos likely these uniformed \"pay police\" will have tried it on elsewhere, normally like supermarket car parks where they generally try and harass anyone they seem more vulnerable/likely to pay so older people, single women etc.
Also if you look on YouTube there's people like @pinac-audit who show how you should deal with these \"Enforcement Officers\" should you be unlucky enough to approached by them.
A key point appears there has to be \"intention\", you have to have intentionally abandoned your litter e.g. fly tipping or throwing a cigarette butt."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52420289","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Mendoza"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T00:13:43.000Z","text":"it just sounds so weird, I’d ask them for photo/video evidence"},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52421171","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"ANDYwwww987"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T07:57:14.000Z","text":"I would definitely be contacting my councillor complaining about lack of due to process eg evidence etc. as they are working on council's behalf."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52422288","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Adster"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T10:32:07.000Z","text":"Get the addresses of the directors of District Enforcement Ltd, dump a black bag outside each of their houses then take a photo and bill them for littering."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52420940","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"hubcms"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T07:01:21.000Z","text":"I think I'd be inclined to talk to the local council first, as it appears that any possible offence has taken place on their land. If they do not appear helpful I'd ask if the tables were turned would they just happily pay? Take full notes of dates and times of any realavent conversations making it clear your friends happy to go to court as they have been given no reason to believe they have committed any such offence."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52421248","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Azwipe"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T08:10:01.000Z","text":"I find it hard to believe anyone could receive a fine without any explanation of the offense. Strange that your friend 'suspects' it was a rogue wheelie bin outside his property. I live in a terraced house and i'm pretty sure i would notice a bin outside my house.
I don't think your friend is giving you the full story, sounds like the fine is for leaving his wheelie bin on the the public footpath outside of collection day. If so 100% justified."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52422114","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"TristanDeCoonha"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T10:10:21.000Z","text":"What area is this, so others can have notice of the rogues operating in their home town"},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52421526","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"SaturdayGigs"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T08:58:30.000Z","text":"You have the opportunity to represent your case through formal prosecution via the criminal courts.
It will then be up to a court, on receiving evidence, to determine whether or not an offence was committed, and if any penalty should still be imposed. However, be aware that a financial penalty imposed by the courts may be significantly higher than the penalty imposed through an FPN.
Who has the final say on whether an individual is prosecuted?
The decision always lies with the Local Authority."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52421263","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"The2Time"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T08:12:57.000Z","text":"A friend huh. lol"},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52424643","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Roger_Irrelevant"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T15:56:31.000Z","text":"Seems they bought TSP Car Park Management Ltd, the director is a \"Danyli Pawlo Kurpil\" obviously likes his businesses taking money off people.
On LinkedIn.
There's an article about a court case they lost and the tactics they used.
parking-prankster.blogspot.com/201…tml"},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52424870","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Bob24601"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T16:30:34.000Z","text":"If the letter does not provide any details as to the actual reason for it, then I think I'd rather go to court and argue it.
Surely they will need to provide some form of evidence to show an offence has been made."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52425115","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"tek-monkey"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T17:02:55.000Z","text":"Simple response - I cannot determine what the offence was from your communications, and therefore cannot admit any liability.
No court will make you pay for an offence you aren't allowed to know you committed, if anything you can just say you assumed it was a scam due to lack of details. If at court they provide the details they refused to beforehand then pay up, but only offer the original fine as no offence was originally informed."},{"@type":"Comment","@id":"https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/52425416","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Charger1969"},"datePublished":"2024-03-20T17:42:19.000Z","text":"Got one of these a few years back while sitting in my car waiting for my better half to finish shopping, my daughter and her friend were in the back and I got a letter for littering which stated 'cigarette butt dropped out of rear n/s window', I knew straight away who it was but I didn't have all their details only their name, so I contacted the district who issued the notice and explained that I knew who it was and gave the name but couldn't give any more details as she was 15 and I couldn't obtain them.
They dropped the fine immediately as they said they could not prosecute a minor without a legal guardian present."}],"commentCount":42,"interactionStatistic":24,"articleSection":"Ask"}