Posted 2 days ago

School absence fines

My wife and I have been invited to an event organised by the company I work for. Unfortunately, this event it is during the term time and, although I tried to explain the exceptional circumstances (I will receive an award), the school issued a warning to us which could be followed by fines.
I can't leave the kids with anyone else during that period of time.
I am wondering if you have received a fine and for how many unauthorised day of "holiday" was that issued for.
Thanks.
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  1. Azwipe's avatar
    Rules change in August:

    However, under the new national framework, all schools will be required to consider a fine when a child has missed 10 or more sessions (5 days) for unauthorised reasons.

    From August 2024, the fine for school absences across the country will be £80 if paid within 21 days, or £160 if paid within 28 days.

    This rate is in line with inflation and is the first increase since 2012.

    In the case of repeated fines, if a parent receives a second fine for the same child within any three-year period, this will be charged at the higher rate of £160.

    Fines per parent will be capped to two fines within any three-year period. Once this limit has been reached, other action like a parenting order or prosecution will be considered.

    If you’re prosecuted and attend court because your child hasn’t been attending school, you could get a fine of up to £2,500.
    r4w80's avatar
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    Did they drop that is 5 days every 10 weeks of school? If they did, that's a huge change.
  2. cornishscouse's avatar
    What a shame your children so happen to be ill at that time, and can't go into school.
    D&V needs 48 hours away from school/work after symptoms have cleared to make sure you wont pass it on to anybody else. Wink wink (edited)
    snapper's avatar
    Trouble is he’s already told them the dates
  3. Bob24601's avatar
    We received a fine for taking my daughter out of school for 2 weeks to go to Disney. This was £60 per parent, so in total £120 if paid on time.

    We also took her out for a separate time, this time for a week, but due to bank holidays it was only 4 days, the school decided not to request a fine as it was not a full week.

    From my experience, it does seem down to the school as to if they want to request a fine or not.
  4. Roger_Irrelevant's avatar
    Our local authority sends spies round if they're all off at the same time to make sure you're at home.

    It's basically about revenue generation, same as car parking, litter fines etc.
    ifitsfreeitsmine's avatar
    Car parking, litter fine, dog mess etc should be enforced, it makes our towns and cities nicer places to live otherwise there will be abandoned cars everywhere, washing machines left on the pavement, dog poo in children's play areas and people urinating in shop doorways. I would like to see more laws and more powers of enforcement to cover even more areas of anti social behaviour (similar to those used in Singapore).
    What I object to and see as clear revenue generation or a money grab is things like congestion charges/ ulez/ some tolls/ minor motoring offences like being stuck at box junctions etc and use the environment as an excuse to generate millions per day from nothing. Congestion don't really decrease, traffic is still horrendous. People who need to drive and work in ulez areas or use tunnels or bridges will still be need to use their vehicles so they fine these people extortionate amounts daily just for living. They offer a few grants to prove that they want what's best for you and help you to comply to the rules but it's a money grab.
  5. wpj's avatar
    Ah, back in the good old days I had 10 days/year off on every report card at junior school; where my father worked there were fixed summer holidays (wake weeks) and these did not coincide with where I went to school. It was 2 weeks off before the end of my school term then return for a week. Wasn't much done in those last weeks anyway.
  6. Imogenthat's avatar
    Get your company to mail you the award, and explain to them that your children's education is more important to you than a workplace award?
    r4w80's avatar
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    I have already mentioned that our children education is important and those are exceptional circumstances but they simply don't agree with me.
    I really want my family to celebrate with me, otherwise I would simply attend alone.
  7. Imogenthat's avatar
    Its just a workplace award my friend, from a company that doesn't seem to realise that its employees have families otherwise they'd dish out the award in summer or just send it to you. Unless its a Nobel prize or Victoria cross ask yourself if its worth the bother
    r4w80's avatar
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    That is true but it is also my first time receiving something like that, so it's still special to me
  8. AMaky's avatar
    What sort of award takes 6 days to attend?
    Sounds bonkers, go by yourself and save the hassle of fines and what not from council (it is not the school that fines you).
    r4w80's avatar
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    One that is outside of the country and takes 2 days only for travel, unfortunately. And no, it's not an holiday or something I am trying to get away with it. It's up to the headteacher to notify the council, but yeah.
  9. echobase's avatar
    If you get fined make sure it’s paid or it’s a court appearance. 
  10. Mark_Hickman's avatar
    We just pay the fines every year, we hire a villa in menorca for around 1k end of September or its 5k in August, and flights 1k vs 2k, we save nearly 5k by paying the fines, keep them coming (edited)
    SPLE22's avatar
    But how will you do that now given that you cannot be fined more than 2 times in 3 years....
  11. TristanDeCoonha's avatar
    What council or area of country? Someone's experience in the north would have no relevance to a school in Cornwall
    r4w80's avatar
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    I didn't think it would be that important but we are in Hampshire, thanks
  12. ifitsfreeitsmine's avatar
    I agree with Imogenthat and AMaky,
    A Nobel prize or Victoria cross is a note worthy award and I'm sure the school will fully understand why it's important for your children to miss school, your achievement will probably be celebrated in a school assembly and will probably be invited to give a talk to the whole school.
    Awards from work tend to be adult only events. Employee of the month, best salesperson of the month is not the same as a Nobel prize however much it means to you. It's like you taking time off for six days to goto your child's 25m swimming award or them getting a yellow belt in karate, your work will not be very understanding.
    I've seen people with similar excuses or illnesses to return weeks later having made miraculous recovery and sporting a lovely sun tan, I've seen videos of bedridden people who was off sick and can't work drinking, dancing and diving in mud at Glastonbury, I'm sure the school have too.
    Schools in this country is actually very relaxed, being punctual, well dressed, with good manners makes children into good citizens, in japan school children clean the school so they look after and respect their the environment they're in. Children who miss school can be very disruptive to a class, they miss subjects and when they return they don't understand the subject so they deliberately gets kicked out of a class or start missing school because they don't want to look stupid for not understanding or can keep up with their classmates.
    Quite simple, explain to work why it's impossible for you to attend because how important you value your children's education or ask the school what are the consequences because this award is so important and face the consequences and pay the fine.
    SPLE22's avatar
    Isn't a childs development and success up to the parent not the state???????
  13. psychobitchfromhell's avatar
    A few years ago I applied for a couple of days leave for my son. It was over Easter and the school was off all the first week we were intending to go and Monday Tuesday of the second. Thursday was an election day and the school was a polling station, hence closed. I was therefore looking at the Wednesday and the friday. I filled in the form but accidentally put the dates in wrong and applied for the Wednesday and Friday of the first week when the whole school was on the Easter holiday. It got refused and I was threatened with fines and further action if my son was not in school those days, the days when everyone was on holiday
    SPLE22's avatar
    Did you counter reply and say if they do that you'll take legal action and expect damages to be paid??
  14. SPLE22's avatar
    How old are your children?? Because schools and councils can't do anything if kids are not 5 yet
    r4w80's avatar
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    They're both over 5 but thanks, I didn't know or remember that. Honestly, this is the first time we take an unauthorised “holiday“ since kids started school.
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