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Every London primary school pupil to get free school meals next academic year (2024/2025)

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*Update 9th Jan 2024*

The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has today confirmed that all primary school children in state-funded schools in the capital will continue to get free school meals for the next academic year, providing £140million extra funding as the cost-of-living crisis continues to hit families.

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About time, could always be earlier but finally some good news for many, which should help around 270,000 primary school Children.

  • Mayor proposes to provide one-off £130m to ensure all primary schoolchildren in the capital can receive free school meals for the 2023/2024 academic year
  • Emergency funding would help around 270,000 primary school children and save families in London around £440 per child across the year
  • Given lack of Government help, Mayor steps in to support families for the next year due to the impact of the spiralling cost of living




The unprecedented move will help around 270,000 primary school children and save families around £440 per child across the year.

Sadiq – who received free school meals as a child – has repeatedly called on the Government to make the meals available to all as research has shown that hundreds of thousands of schoolchildren live in poverty but do not receive them due to the Government’s restrictive eligibility criteria and lack of universal provision. Currently a household on universal credit must earn less than £7,400 a year (after tax and not including benefits), regardless of the number of children in the family, to be eligible. This means that many children from working families in poverty aren’t entitled to free school meals.

Given the Government’s inaction, and the soaring cost of living hitting London’s families particularly hard, the Mayor has now proposed a plan to make the meals available – on a universal basis – to all of the capital’s primary schoolchildren for one full school year.

As well as saving families hundreds of pounds per child, making free school meals available to all helps reduce the stigma that can be associated with being singled out as low income, therefore boosting take-up among families who need them most. The meals are also good for children’s health as they may be the child’s main source of hot, nutritious food. By ensuring they don’t go hungry, children are better equipped to learn.

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  1. mark.hughesrgw's avatar
    Thank good it’s only people in London who can’t afford to feed their kids.
    Us in the north east had a near miss there!
    Taka_nai's avatar
    My son’s specialist school and its partner school in Newcastle are trialing free lunches. Not part of the council but the school group. It’s really great but doesn’t help me because my son has limited diet so have to pack him a lunch. They did say I can have both but I think that’s just a waste of good food and money.

    Just hope this idea rolls out across all the schools so we can at least benefit from my “school dinner eating” daughter (edited)
  2. deleted2053327's avatar
    It's been working its way up the Scottish Primary schools, think up to P7 now. The problem is the meals are awful in my kids primary, I remember when school dinners were made in school back when I was at primary and secondary, it was 20 odd years ago but they were well cooked... But these catering companies and their prepackaged unhealthy crap.. majority of the tasteless slop goes in the bins. Just another money making scam for these companies, I'm sure they charge the schools/council/government stupid amounts per meal.
    bbsutton's avatar
    I agree but do think of those kids whose parents are struggling to provide lunches due to the cost of living. So this would help everyone..
  3. benfromlondon's avatar
    Thinking about this purely in terms of 'buying every kid lunch will cost x' is not how this works at all - you need to think of the money that will be saved for health and social care and the money parents may have extra to spend. Too many people take a simplistic view of this when actually this type of intervention can have quite a nuanced impact in a number of ways, even when it's not a targeted approach.
    Swidc's avatar
    I agree if these are healthy and nutritious meals.
    But I have a feeling it may be about some odd company getting the contract and trying to make as much profit as possible so will use the cheapest ingredients available to just about match the contract standards
  4. shack69's avatar
    So if i read this correctly public money will be used to subsidise the meals of children from all families regardless of their income. I'm not sure this is a good use of public money. Those who can pay should pay. If it was targetted then maybe it could run for more than one year.
    deleted2053327's avatar
    This, during the beginning of COVID at my kids nursery, for some reason she was entitled to a packed lunch, 2 pieces of fruit, yogurt, sandwich and a carton of milk at hometime. She didn't like the sandwiches or yogurt so we said just give her the fruit and milk, they said no it has to be everything, we said no thank you... You know what her key worker said? She said just take it, we are going to throw it in the bin, we have to with the ones leftover, so just take it, take out what you want and throw the rest in the bin...
  5. rhexenor's avatar
    So this is what the extended ULEZ charge is funding.
    Deal_searcher's avatar
    No it is a PR exercise. As this is just for one school year. The ULEZ continues forever, obviously people will change cars but a lot won't be able to. So I am guessing parents pay £12.50 a day to send their child to school to pay for the school meal or they choose to take tube or bus (both of which are increasing in price) to pay for their school meal. Then add on the fact that once the infrastructure is there and he is voted in again he will probably use the ULEZ cameras to implement road charging for the safety of our kids health. All the while not changing out diesel buses non ULEZ compliant and raising public transport fares until it is one day a monopoly and prices rise anyway.
  6. techguy74's avatar
    Why can’t people take responsibility for feeding and clothing their own children and stop relying on everyone else ( taxpayers) to pay for them ?!
    If you can’t afford to have kids then don’t ! It’s not like we are underpopulated but this country seems to be going the way of a Third World country….
    Gollywood's avatar
    Always the poorest sections of society are demonised yet when the politicians, councillors, members of the House of Lords etc effectively claim for meals, drinks, rent, mortgages, travel, general expenses etc etc we're ok with that?

    And let's not forget tax avoidance!!

    I mean rich Boris is trying to get legal aid worth £¼ million!!!

    What's the difference?? (edited)
  7. HaraldBB's avatar
    Londoners will pay £250m in completely idiotic ULEZ expansion to clean already clean air, so Sadiq Khan can spend £200m on ULEZ cameras and £120m on school meals which is just enough for 11 weeks, so if started today after half term, it will end just before next half term in May.
    Where is a deal here?
    I see only one - for Sadiq Khan desperately trying to save his nosediving rankings after his lies about ULEZ expansion were exposed.
    Keep in mind that kids from poorer families (like receiving Universal Credit) were already entitled to free school meals.
    Laurence_Saunders's avatar
    So you're saying that's he's found a way to stop children getting asthma/dying from poison gas and also a way to ensure all children get at least 1 healthy meal (helping their health and education)

    And the first one partially pays for the second one?
  8. Sajad_Mohammed's avatar
    Really disappointed by some of the comments on here.

    Idea.. Let’s use some of our money to make sure that young children are not malnourished or go hungry..

    Response - no, let them starve because we don’t like that idea.. let’s starve them and then rely on them to fund us when we retire.. but of soul searching required for some on here
    Backinamo's avatar
    The alternative to free school dinners isn't starvation.
  9. Xercen's avatar
    Reading these comments about school meals etc. Remember that everybody could have far more than just free school meals if the rich people and rich companies were taxed.

    Banks and energy companies laughing at us. Remember to vote!

    I feel sad that so many people are suffering right now because of the incompetent government. (edited)
    countrybumpkin's avatar
    They are laughing at you if you STILL think voting makes a blind bit of difference!!
  10. Swidc's avatar
    Why for all families? This is the same as the 400£ energy payments... Why does a family with an income of 50k a year get the same as another one earning 150k.
    Populist decisions rather than targeted useful ones. "We all pay tax", so what...

    As an old man said, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".
    lastjunkie's avatar
    because it would cost more to adminstrate for, and would create/ continue the demonstrated stigma around free school meals.
  11. bozo007's avatar
    This is going to lead to massive wastage. Rather than giving everything to every child, let them pick what they want to eat so that the left over food can be donated further.
    strong1's avatar
    You do, it's usually a choice at dinner time? How's that waste? You choose what you want to eat out of what's available, of course there will always be some wastage as there is now but not excessive
  12. deleted188690's avatar
    Is this really classed as a deal?
    timmyboy147's avatar
    I like these types of threads to be honest. It’s money related so I think the mods have it right.
  13. MidgeBug's avatar
    Besides it being ridiculous for taxpayers to pay for rich kids meals this isn’t actually a deal.
  14. Connor_Wattam's avatar
    Yeah the Tories only care about the Southerners in London. Yet people will still vote these clowns in at the next general election. Smh
    Bonedome123's avatar
    I think Mr Khan was Labour  not Conservative L? 
  15. g8spur's avatar
    Why are people moaning about "tax payers money". If feeding children isn't worthy of your precious taxes, what the heck is?!

    Funnily enough you don't see many complaining about the fact that we pay for MP's lunches though.
    Yas_Min's avatar
    Give the parents tax breaks , decent wages, affordable food.

    Don't give food supply contracts to some politicians friend who will overcharge the government. Then pay back their friend with paid "speeches" .
  16. sashforth's avatar
    What an extraordinary thread this has turned into. There are so many ill-informed comments.

    I am not sure what on earth is doing in the deals forum ain the first place. Surely it should be in Discussions.
  17. strong1's avatar
    A great idea that shouldn't need the mayors intervention. government is on its knees that would rather pay for dodgy PPE contracts for their mates and let energy company's make multi billions on the back of war. But we're all in this together apparently (edited)
  18. sowotsdis's avatar
    Publicity stunt that stinks
    Cheap food that will go to waste just like the fruit initiative
    London is awash with money at the expense of the rest of the country
    How about parents paying for the kids they have and not relying on making others feel they have to do it?
    countrybumpkin's avatar
    Socialism is on the way pal, most on here are all for it amazingly!!! Too much trust in government for my liking..
  19. loopz's avatar
    By free it means taxpayer money, so you'll still be paying. My kid is getting free breakfasts but doesn't need it and plenty of families that don't are either having two so will become obese. Sadly the kids that need it probably turn up too late to benefit or don't turn up at all.
    aembleton's avatar
    Why does your kid not need breakfast? Do they not eat?
  20. YouCannotWin2003's avatar
    Stoopid - more tax for us workers
    elmhoe's avatar
    Good. Tax everyone more to help those in need of food. Free school meals makes sense. Children should not ever have to be concerned about money when trying to eat lunch at school. No parent(s) should ever stress about money for their child to eat at school.
  21. DealDarren's avatar
    Good news. Now let's see more funding to pay our teachers properly and restore education funding to 2010 levels.
    Gollywood's avatar
    'Where's the funding going to come from?'

    If only they hadn't peed away over £40 billion on a 'world beating', envy of the universe track and trace system and written off all that covid fraud!
  22. ebury's avatar
    So Sadiq Khan is being vilified for bringing in an expansion to the ULEZ zone,which his office have wasted nearly 1 million pounds of tax payers money to in advertising to help people believe his nonsense,now comes up with an idea that feeding all primary school children for ONLY 1 yr isn't going to seen as a blatant smokescreen for the corruption in his office and that he will be seeking ANOTHER re-election at the same time his 'free' school meals will be eaten!!!
    The ULEZ scheme is a con 100%. If you can afford to spend £12.50 daily,you are welcome to continue polluting London🤡🤡,which people who can't afford to buy a new compliant car are doing on a daily basis,and helping Sadiq Khan raise his London funds that he has wasted over the last 8yrs already.
  23. Jimbo79pp's avatar
    Khan now buying the votes of Londoners whilst the place goes to the dogs!
    MidgeBug's avatar
    Exactly this
  24. DJ8's avatar
    A scheme funded by the soon to be expanded Ulez scheme, hitting the very families that may benefit from a free meal.
  25. Phil_Blake's avatar
    Great.
    So people in Sunderland, Hull and Bolton are paying to feed people in Chelsea, Kensington and Knightsbridge.
    That seems perfectly fair to me.
    BeninBromley's avatar
    People in Sunderland, Hull and Bolton don't pay council tax in London.
    People in London pay council tax in London.
    People in London are paying for school meals in London.

    If the people of Sunderland, Hull and Bolton want this in their towns they need to speak to their councils.
  26. thetreelogger's avatar
    Sadiq khan is the greatest London Mayor of all time
  27. Skybird's avatar
    Probably better to provide packed lunches rather than poor quality cooked meals.
    Luckylucy2's avatar
    ungreatful!!
  28. gnasher55's avatar
    I don’t get why you don’t just increase the child allowance in London - I say London as this is a Labour Mayor initiative and i agree it shouldn’t go to all families esp ones that can afford it (same as child allowance shouldn’t go to all)
    N3M3S15's avatar
    Not everyone gets child allowance. Apparently, as soon as you earn £50k you're loaded and don't need it...
  29. finsburyjames's avatar
    About time. But we need this for all schoolkids in all the country. Include a basic breakfast as well. Children should not be hungry. Surely its a fundamental right in a rich country. (edited)
    countrybumpkin's avatar
    rich country?? Half the population will be in debt till they are 60!
  30. cookied's avatar
    Why only London......😡
    Major_Black's avatar
    Be grateful his not your mayor
  31. Rosebud99's avatar
    Good news! Should rollout to rest of UK.
    OutwithCameron1's avatar
    No chance, one rule for London
  32. ed1980's avatar
    School meals should be free for every student
  33. homebanjo's avatar
    But they don't deserve it/ are not in need of it?
    Not all families pay attention to their children's well being, rich or poor. Feed the blooming kids, you can't teach any in the class, properly, if there are hungry ones.

    For those without any idea what a households income has to be below, before the entitlement of free dinners is -
    Well, it is £7,400. A pittance. And that was set 5 years ago. Dog food alone has nearly doubled in price since then.

    As a note the Local Government Associations' research says the qualifying threshold ought to be £20,000.
  34. Poctenicko's avatar
    Even during communist times in 80s I had to pay my school meals. This is so wrong.
  35. Daisydoo's avatar
    Whilst I’m in favour of London children getting free school meals, I’m also bewildered why the rest of England haven’t been given this necessity. This is what levelling up means 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️
  36. Sphere's avatar
    Please note, not free. Someone pays...
    DurtyDoge's avatar
    Wait until you find out about the NHS, fire service, police, schools, etc!
  37. Ajmal_Kazmi's avatar
    Very kind move by mr khan .. bravo 👏
    ukflyboy's avatar
    And you are exactly the kinda of person he's aiming this at - someone who can't see it as a vote buying exercise!
  38. homebanjo's avatar
    Blimey, you would think some here had never been to school, experienced other kids hardships nor visited their families.

    What an insular existence some lead and the others who just don't give a toss are probably the bullies.
    Bonedome123's avatar
    Nice bit of straw manning there… 🍺
  39. rrr99gp's avatar
    So public tax money nationwide is being used to fund just the London area (one of the richest parts of the UK) for free meals?

    Figures the government will only help those on their doorstep. (edited)
    uchman365's avatar
    "London" government. It has nothing to do with the taxes wherever you are.
  40. AndyCooper66's avatar
    Remind me, when is the next mayoral election?
    aembleton's avatar
    2025
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