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Better deal for this MicroSever for April 2015, £60 cashback !!!.

Without Optical drive though (not really needed if you boot from USB to install stuff) !!!

**Optical drive not included**

The HP ProLiant MicroServer Gen8 is a small, quiet, and stylishly designed server that is ideal as a first server solution for small businesses. With a form factor that is easy to use and service, it helps small businesses drive down their expenses while improving productivity, efficiency, and security. HP ProLiant MicroServer Gen8 comes with HP iLO4, providing access to innovations like Intelligent Provisioning for quick and simple installation and setup.
•Instant out-of-box server set up and deployment
•Ideal first server for a small or home office scenario using Windows Server 2012 Foundation software
•Perfect home media server using Windows 7 Home Premium
•Tool-less access to hard drives, memory, and PCI slots for simple installation or upgrade
•Improved serviceability with features such as icon-based status display and system health status LEDs
•Two up-front USB ports allow for easy deployment
•New iLO Essentials license provides ability to connect media from your client device to your server and receive email alerts regarding server events
•Small, quiet, energy efficient, and can be placed anywhere
•Stylish blue LED light bar for at-a-glance system health status
•Stackable managed switch creates clean, elegant look for networking and compute
•Compatible with HP PS1810 Switch - unique chassis design for the 8-port managed switch that enables physical stacking



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  1. mark_ed's avatar
    sterankin

    What else do you need to buy to get this working? Just a hard drive? Any … What else do you need to buy to get this working? Just a hard drive? Any good deals?


    Patience and lots of it, the first time.
    Physically, an Internet connection to download firmware updates - 2 ports on a switch to connect the ilo (integrated lights out management port - essentially remote management access to the hardware) and 1st ethernet port (unless you combine them in the bios or don't need ILO) A third if you want redundant links/teamed NICs.
    Swear at the incomprehensible stupidity in showing lower revision numbers in RED thinking that they are the latest software patches... then realise that it only updates the network firmware.

    A deep and abiding hatred of HPs convoluted support/warranty system. Download firmware, download patches, download system prep .ISO (- except you can't as you don't have valid support, which is confusing realise that you have been merrily using the US site, rather than the UK site ). Swap sites, restart from scratch to find the support pages, continue downloading.
    Find two more usb keys, buy cheap laptop DVD, swear because it is 12.7 not the 9.5 required, and so doesn't fit. Buy FDD-ODD power adapter as it uses slimline SATA... swear a bit more. Go away and order new 16/32bit USB 3.0 key for 130MB/s transfer rates because puny usb2 cheap job won't be useful.

    Download OS ISOs, spend time working out how to use intelligent provisioning. Can't decide whether to use B120i raid or AHCI? no me neither. Give up and plug in ssd to ODD port. Go out make coffee, come back to find in booted OS... WTF!!? (I had Win 10 Tech Preview on there which I had pulled after upgrading from a 60GB to 240GB SSD). Spend time in Device Manager, wonder what the Base Adapter parts are - realise that it is the ILO components, find the downloads, install.

    That's where I am at so far - just downloaded the SPP ISO last night, so need to burn and get a decent OS on there rather than Win 10 Tech Preview. Not entirely sure if Intelligent Provisioning works with W10 server preview, or W10 Tech Preview in installing, but I might give it a try later...

    As an aside the drives appear to be hotpluggable in AHCI, does anyone know of any problems that can be encountered or is it only in the B120i RAID modes that hotplug is not usable?

    So a suggestion would be read and understand the ILO and intelligent provisioning documentation - and make sure you have either a dvd that works (use a standard height 15quid job rather than mess around with laptop drives - take the top of and use a molex y-splitter with the molex adapters just underneath the plate at the top of the drive bays) or know how to create bootable usb keys from iso images. If all else fails, reading the homeservershow.com pages on the GEN8
    would be a good start.
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  2. dalsoth's avatar
    My advice is to start off by bookmarking this page full of useful hardware and software links and guides. homeservershow.com/for…151

    Just got one of these myself a few days ago, installed 16gb ram from my old microserver. Will update to a Xeon processor when i have the cash. Also probably the P222 raid card later as there is no RAID5 on the builtin B120i.

    Do not want to use AHCI as i heard the fan runs at like 30% and is noisy if not using B120i (which runs at like 6%) as AHCI cannot report back the temps or some such accurately. This may have now been fixed but i'm fine with it on B120i.

    Not used ILO yet but have purchased an advanced license for it from ebay for 30 odd quid. Annoyingly you can only connect for short periods at a time otherwise. Dont pay 200 quid for a license, check ebay!

    Stuck a SSD in the top of the case, wedged in for now. There are DVD caddys for SSDs out there but they all seem to have some issue such as the height not right (needs to be 9.5mm rather than the usual 12mm) or they have only 1.5 SATA connections.

    Powered the SSD with a molex y splitter from the existing power and then another molex to sata power adapter into the drive. Then a standard sata data cable into it from the spare sata port on the mobo.

    The FDD power can be converted back to SATA and used instead but the adapter is like 10 quid on Amazon which is a rip off. They are like 4 dollars in the US. Maplins has them for like a quid but nowhere near me and no delivery.

    Installed ESXi 6.0 using HPs specific custom ESXi image from here www8.hp.com/us/…005

    Used a 2GB memory stick i had spare for ESXi and that runs it from the USB port inside the case. Make sure you go into the bios settings and set the internal key to boot first and enable any other relevant boot order bits. There is also a microsd port which would be nice for ESXi but i had none available and i recall reading something about needing HP branded cards which were quite pricey.

    I set each of my 4 data disks (2tb each) as a seperate array on the B120i as well as a seperate array for my SSD. You cant use caching if you have the stock 2GB ram in the machine as it uses your RAM for this. Make sure you have a decent UPS if you use the caching and do not want to lose data.

    Installed XPEnology which is a copy of the brilliant Synology software using guides from here xpenology.nl/

    Think it will be much better than my old Windows 2008 R2 server and has stuff like SickBeard/SickRage, Plex, torrent downloads and others installed with a simple click or two. The Synology devices are great but lacked the oomph of some decent hardware behind them. That is unless you spent a fortune. For Plex transcoding remotely they struggle massively. Once i get my Xeon CPU that should not be much of a problem

    I am using ESXi and not installing directly onto the machine because i can use it for Windows Server and clients and other OS's to test with on the same kit so have more options to share the hardware between different virtual machines.

    Hope this helps someone.

    This thing is much tougher than my old Microservers to get going but it looks brilliant and is really worth sticking with and spending time on.
  3. radialblur's avatar
    RabS1

    How does the cashback work on this, it also says free delivery but its … How does the cashback work on this, it also says free delivery but its trying to charge me for it, is this part of the cashback deal?



    Download the PDF, fill it in with an online tool such as PDFescape and email it to them at pomotions@out-bound.co.uk the form gives an option for a BACS payment (which is new since I got my N54L) or they will send you a cheque if you don't supply and bank details.

    When I ordered mine I had to log in to see the free delivery option, bizarrely it gave a Free Saturday delivery option which I've never seen at eBuyer before, they were even baffled on the phone when I queried it, but sure enough it turned up this morning


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  4. Rotoq's avatar
    paulj48

    do people seriously have 1080P files sat on a resource hunger Plex server … do people seriously have 1080P files sat on a resource hunger Plex server so they can transcode on the fly when they're on another network, seriously?


    Do people seriously have a 1080p, 720p, 360p version of each video to select stream quality. Seriously?.

    I spent a fair bit of time, money and effort setting up my microserver. Being able to watch my content from anywhere with a chromecast or plex app is a major perk.

    (edited)
  5. tezray's avatar
    ahujamit

    are there any threads which can explain how to upgrade this … are there any threads which can explain how to upgrade this machineCPURAMDiskI want to mainly use for remote desktop (windows) and play content to TV directly, does it have a HDMI out port?Sorry i am totally new to HTPC/Servers



    Hi I have been using this site it covers most things: homeservershow.com/for…ms/
  6. PhilGB's avatar
    audin

    I've been on the lookout for any of these processors at a cheap price. … I've been on the lookout for any of these processors at a cheap price. None of any on eBay. Any ideas where I could pick a used one up other than eBay?



    The i3-3240T appears to be the most commonly available processor on eBay as I think it is an OEM part in a lot of servers etc. and get replaced.

    They come up every so often at around £60-65 BIN. If you wait for an auction you can get them for around £50-55.

    Hope this helps!
    Phil
  7. tek-monkey's avatar
    A lot of people seem to think plex and kodi are similar things, they are not. Plex is for sharing your media out, kodi is for bringing other media in. I can't think of a way I could use a kodi client that would help in the distributed environment I have with plex, plus the £10 nowTV boxes were perfect for my less technically minded family!
  8. PhilGB's avatar
    Rotoq

    Oh don't be showing me that. I can't afford the upgrade from my Gen7 … Oh don't be showing me that. I can't afford the upgrade from my Gen7 right now but that is TEMPTING!!



    You need to be careful upgrading to this processor as technically the heatsink is only technically rated for a 35W TDP. Your safest options if you want a faster processor:
    i3-3220T
    i3-3240T
    i3-3250T
    Xeon - E3-1265 Lv2
    Xeon - E3-1235L v2

    All of these hit the 35W TDP requirement and support ECC memory. I have an i3-3220T in my Gen 8 and it runs flawlessly.

    Cheers,
    Phil
  9. deleted1032520's avatar
    dilse

    Too much choice in OS... FreeNAS is meant to me a great NAS, NAS4Free, … Too much choice in OS... FreeNAS is meant to me a great NAS, NAS4Free, Openfiler, are just some of them... I'm still testing them all to narrow down the choices... I have had N40L's, N54L's, now Lenovo TS140, but I'm hovering over the "Add to Basket" button



    I tested loads but XPEnology was the one I stuck with.
  10. stredwizard's avatar
    Xpenology is my choice on an atom based system, I too am tempted with this now!
  11. RedmanDealer's avatar
    Anybody know what spec you get with the server in terms of CPU, memory & HDD? Doesn't seem to be stated on the ebuyer page, just links to upgrades. I assume this is not bare-bones
  12. stoney73's avatar
    i got one from Ebuyer a couple of weeks ago. 2gb Ram. no hard drive or optical drive. Dual core Celeron cpu.
  13. PhilGB's avatar
    dilse

    Too much choice in OS... FreeNAS is meant to me a great NAS, NAS4Free, … Too much choice in OS... FreeNAS is meant to me a great NAS, NAS4Free, Openfiler, are just some of them... I'm still testing them all to narrow down the choices... I have had N40L's, N54L's, now Lenovo TS140, but I'm hovering over the "Add to Basket" button



    Have one of these running Unraid as a media centre server. Running Plex server on it to serve files to 2 TVs and umpteen numbers of iPads/Phones. The Unraid OS can also run any number of other plugins/applications in docker as well. I have upgraded the processor to an i3-3220T (using the existing heatsink) to help with multiple transcoded HD streams to iPads but even with the G1610T processor this is a formidable machine.

    I have an N54L and the build quality of this is better & it is much more customisable w.r.t. processor etc.

    Just my thoughts!

    Cheers,
    Phil
  14. paulj48's avatar
    brilly

    but again.. is that not video/audio codec dependant? especially with … but again.. is that not video/audio codec dependant? especially with something like pi


    I think KODI can play all current formats, I've certainly never found anything it can't handle.
  15. audin's avatar
    Lilmonkey

    Which ram should i get? I understand that you need min 8Gb for FreeNas?



    I've got this in mine:

    amazon.co.uk/Kin…F8G
  16. deleted57770's avatar
    mikejbry

    Damm you!!!! Bought one of these a couple of weeks ago with the much … Damm you!!!! Bought one of these a couple of weeks ago with the much lower cashback offer of £35! :P

    Secret tip, don't buy now, there may be £100 off, wait for that or be damned. Better still, wait longer like 2025, you will find it for £5 at Oxfam. I bought anyway..

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  17. radialblur's avatar
    zipper

    Will 'Windows Server 2012 R2 with Update' via Microsoft Dreamspark / NUS … Will 'Windows Server 2012 R2 with Update' via Microsoft Dreamspark / NUS Extra work with this?and would Essentials be the best bet?



    Absolutely, it's what I'm using
  18. deleted61689's avatar
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    Lilmonkey

    Hmm. SO tempted. Fantastic price after the cashback. Just bought one of … Hmm. SO tempted. Fantastic price after the cashback. Just bought one of those 16Tb NAS drives, so tempted to buy this, get the drives out of the NAS and set this up as a better more reliable Media Server / steamer. But what (free) OS should be installed?



    Too much choice in OS... FreeNAS is meant to me a great NAS, NAS4Free, Openfiler, are just some of them... I'm still testing them all to narrow down the choices... I have had N40L's, N54L's, now Lenovo TS140, but I'm hovering over the "Add to Basket" button
  19. RedmanDealer's avatar
    stoney73

    i got one from Ebuyer a couple of weeks ago. 2gb Ram. no hard drive or … i got one from Ebuyer a couple of weeks ago. 2gb Ram. no hard drive or optical drive. Dual core Celeron cpu.


    Thanks, just found that doing a few searches, shame on Ebuyer for not putting this in the description.

    Would be good to know what average power it uses in terms of watts, I'm looking for something that can sit there using the minimum amount of energy. The CPU has a TDP of 35W and the PSU of the server is only 150W so I reckon it shouldn't use more than 40-50W idle but that will probably depend on how many HDDs you install.
  20. Turner855's avatar
    RedmanDealer

    Thanks, just found that doing a few searches, shame on Ebuyer for not … Thanks, just found that doing a few searches, shame on Ebuyer for not putting this in the description.Would be good to know what average power it uses in terms of watts, I'm looking for something that can sit there using the minimum amount of energy. The CPU has a TDP of 35W and the PSU of the server is only 150W so I reckon it shouldn't use more than 40-50W idle but that will probably depend on how many HDDs you install.



    All the technical specs are a bit further down the page after the reevoo section.
  21. paulj48's avatar
    RedmanDealer

    Thanks, just found that doing a few searches, shame on Ebuyer for not … Thanks, just found that doing a few searches, shame on Ebuyer for not putting this in the description.Would be good to know what average power it uses in terms of watts, I'm looking for something that can sit there using the minimum amount of energy. The CPU has a TDP of 35W and the PSU of the server is only 150W so I reckon it shouldn't use more than 40-50W idle but that will probably depend on how many HDDs you install.


    I bought a Synology 2bay NAS last week after lots of consideration with these Microservers, with 2 HDD connected the Synology uses between 10w and 14w and as I have it on 24/7 recoring IP cameras the power saving over this is quite considerable.
  22. deleted1276425's avatar
    hotdealseeker

    What are the CPU ugrade options?



    You can stick a Xeon in it: b3n.org/ins…er/
  23. deleted86015's avatar
    paulj48

    do people still transcode? get a cheap KODI client that can read the … do people still transcode? get a cheap KODI client that can read the files native


    not sure if being slow but... would the client not have to be on the device playing them back thus totally device dependant?
  24. Rotoq's avatar
    paulj48

    do people still transcode? get a cheap KODI client that can read the … do people still transcode? get a cheap KODI client that can read the files native



    And what about watching your media on your phone/tablet/laptop/TV's that aren't on the same network (i.e. ata different location)? You'd need a much higher bandwidth and a VPN set up to access the files.
  25. Rotoq's avatar
    paulj48

    correct, buy a £20 Rasberry pi and play native 1080P footage with it with … correct, buy a £20 Rasberry pi and play native 1080P footage with it with KODI/XBMC, if your not that technically minded then a £40 andriod box with KODI/XBMC on it. Saves the resource hungry Plex server the need to transcode



    Not strictly applicable for accessing your library from anywhere, only on the same network as the server.
  26. paulj48's avatar
    Rotoq

    Not strictly applicable for accessing your library from anywhere, only on … Not strictly applicable for accessing your library from anywhere, only on the same network as the server.


    do people seriously have 1080P files sat on a resource hunger Plex server so they can transcode on the fly when they're on another network, seriously?
  27. deleted294297's avatar
    Run the free VMware vsphere on this & it's epic, mine's running 5 VMs 24/7, 3 of which are w2008 webservers (10gb RAM & RAID SSDs). v6 is out now too.

    Top HP build quality & specs make this a bargain, I was happy paying £180. I'd get a spare, but they don't break..
  28. tek-monkey's avatar
    paulj48

    because KODI can read from SMB and NFS shares so instead of running Plex … because KODI can read from SMB and NFS shares so instead of running Plex server you could just share a folder from a cheaper NAS



    What, remotely? No thanks, I don't want full def streams eating my bandwidth. Remote clients get limited, internal get full res.
  29. audin's avatar
    Dead1nside

    Dang, I just bought this on the £144 after cashback deal. I'd still say … Dang, I just bought this on the £144 after cashback deal. I'd still say it's a good purchase.Bought the Xeon E3-1230v2 for this, and 16GB ECC RAM. If this could take 32GB RAM (no evidence anyone's been able to do it so far, even with those who have found 16GB DIMMs) it would be killer.Anyone know the best prices for ILO Essentials licenses? I think £50 for 4 years was the best I found.



    Yeah I did the same (bought at £144 after cashback), pretty sh**ty of them to give further discount so soon after...
  30. deleted354509's avatar
    audin

    If you're talking 3.5" internals then it has to be WD Red.



    thanks audin - ill go get some
  31. msharif911's avatar
    Lilmonkey

    Hmm. SO tempted. Fantastic price after the cashback. Just bought one of … Hmm. SO tempted. Fantastic price after the cashback. Just bought one of those 16Tb NAS drives, so tempted to buy this, get the drives out of the NAS and set this up as a better more reliable Media Server / steamer. But what (free) OS should be installed?




    VMWare.
  32. MarkComerford's avatar
    This is an excellent deal.

    I am actually gutted and pretty annoyed that I paid £150 for mine just under a month ago as a result of the crappy £35 cashback HP was offering, which at the time I thought was great. It should have been £60 from the start, or better still just pass the damn discount to the retailer in the first place rather than having to go through the silly process of claiming the money back.
  33. mikedigitales's avatar
    OrribleHarry

    8gb for freenas? I'd be surprised! My XPEnology box had 2gb and runs … 8gb for freenas? I'd be surprised! My XPEnology box had 2gb and runs perfect...it's actually better than freenas imho.


    Definitely 8GB minimum for Freenas these days - ZFS is ram hungry. Don't forget ECC too
  34. tech3475's avatar
    BTW, for those who may want a 5th HDD on the cheap internally since the internal power meant for the DVD drive is a floppy connection.

    What I did was buy an adaptor for connecting laptop sata ODDs to regular SATA/floppy power then bought a 9.5mm dvd/hdd adaptor for around £8 in total.

    While it's not held in by a bracket, it's still secure enough for something that's mainly stationary and my hdd adaptor came with a dummy front plate so it's hidden.

    You can get floppy power-sata power adaptors but my method worked out cheaper than the adaptors I saw and this is in many ways safer since the HDD is held down.
  35. paulj48's avatar
    EpiKz

    I don't need the play either but I see it as future proofing and flexible … I don't need the play either but I see it as future proofing and flexible for other potential users and family.


    I didnt fancy paying an extra £100
  36. nige182's avatar
    decoy7

    rushed to buy one yesterday and even opted for next day … rushed to buy one yesterday and even opted for next day delivery...duh...think it's going back, arrived this afternoon....anyone only using this for Xpenology, do you have it installed on a microSD card?



    Why didn't you refuse delivery? It would have been returned to sender at no cost to you then. That is what I would have done, just said to the courier, "sorry but the order was cancelled, I can't accept it".
  37. Splather's avatar
    Upgrade from N54L ordered. I really need to get off this website..
  38. polly69's avatar
    objectiveC

    Soooo tempted.If anyone has one of these could you found out what RAM is … Soooo tempted.If anyone has one of these could you found out what RAM is in this from the factory- the upgrade options of eBuyer linked on the page indicate DDR3-1600, whereas crucial seem to have DDR4-2133 sticks for the Gen8?



    Its a Ivybridge CPU and DDR4 wasnt out when that was made its DDR3 1600 like the 54L.
  39. audin's avatar
    prpowsz

    Had one delivered yesterday as I was also under the impression that it … Had one delivered yesterday as I was also under the impression that it was the last day of deal, not happy ! Had a look at returning but it's going to cost over a tenner with insurance so not worth the hassle for the sake of 15 quid. The way I see it now is all the more reason to use the ilo4 keygen to unlock the advance features Haven't upgraded the firmware though just incase the serial no longer works...



    I upgraded the firmware first, then used the keygen

    Oh and thanks, this makes me feel better about being ripped off buying in March too!
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    Misses says no.
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