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PALiT NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Dual 12GB GDDR6X Graphics Card (+ NVIDIA Overwatch 2 Bundle) £549.98 +£5.99 delivery @ Novatech
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Edited by Loudmouthsnook, 21 April 2023
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sorted by16gb is the new minimum imo (edited)
You can ultra everything and on the textures, find performance is actually below a 3060 12GB.
Simply put the textures to high and everything else ultra and you are getting well over 100FPS with ray tracing on. Smash a 3060 completely for performance.
The point is, you COULD make a YouTube video saying, 'look at this broken mess!!' but it's something you would only see if you really push that or go out of your way to achieve. The game even gives you a steer on getting a good set up.
Sure, more VRAM would be nice but for most it's a complete non issue and I find it funny that some would rather trash the VRAM than look at the game optimisation.
RDR2 looks as good as anything brand new and that's not a VRAM hog. (edited)
Literally, this is below what the 3060 was in the Ampere lineup. It's basically the equivalent of the $250 RTX3050. But they just conveniently change the naming schemes around(of the GPU's and dies) and thus tricks tons of people into thinking this GPU is higher tier than it actually is.
4080 = 3070
4070Ti = 3060
4070 = 3050
They've similarly fooled even slightly more informed people by changing the die naming.
AD102 = AD102
AD103 would normally be AD104.
AD104 would normally be AD106.
And the upcoming *actual* 4060Ti, based on AD106, would normally have been AD107, or literally a sub $200 tier part.
Nvidia's greed is much worse than most people seem to actually realize.
This card should be 350quid tops. It's a tiny die with mega cheap PCB, VRAM and VRMs (because that is all it needs to run well). And just as flash has never been cheaper, VRAM, PCBs and VRMs have never been cheaper either. The fans and chunk of heatsink cost next to nothing as well. And at 350 quid, Nvidia would be making a massive profit per unit- especially if it chose to sell direct.
Anyhoo, the mid-end is a buyers market, and once the AMD 7800 variants launch (very soon now), prices are going to crash hard. If you've waited til now- I'd wait a little longer- and by doing so you help send a message to Nvidia.
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The 3070 & 3060ti had a 392.5 mm^2 die
The 3060 had a 276 mm^2 die
The 4070 & 4070ti have a 295 m^2 die
The 4080 has a 378 mm^2 die
The 4070 / 4070ti are 3060 equivalents from this generation in terms of how much silicon they're selling you. They just moved the naming up a tier so they could charge more.
This is a terrible price for a bottom of the range card disguised as a mid range card.
The only reason to give this heat, is if you don't understand the actual specs and are just making purchase decisions based on the fact Nvidia have named it a 70 series (when it's actually closer to a 50/60 series card). Even if this were a 70 series card spec wise, £550 is still extortionate mining inflated BS pricing for a mid range card.
Some of us understand not every NVidia launch gives a massive jump in performance, some understand inflation is running at nearly 20% since the previous launch, some are happy to get 3080 levels with better RT and frame generation with lower power consumption for under £600.
Calling this a bottom of the range card
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I cant stress this enough - this is *below* what the 3060 was in the Ampere lineup. Meaning they've effectively raised prices for this tier of GPU by over 100%. This used to be the price territory of fully enabled upper midrange dies(which even the 4080 isn't, as it's a cut down upper midrange part).
Insanity that people are upvoting this. We really are just gonna let Nvidia get away with this and ruin the GPU market for everyone, forever, huh? Completely depressing. I simply wont give in. I would feel extremely dirty buying one of these, especially knowing how many other PC gamers I'm hurting by doing so.
Nvidia has lost it now though, totally bonkers.
The annoying part as you say, most will buy it and think it's a deal.
It's a bit of a trap too as I almost want to buy one but I refuse to pay these prices but it just feels silly to buy a 20 or 30 series now if you were to buy a new card. SIGH lol.
This card is what i hoped the 4050 would be for 299 pounds or less, this price is literally insane. (edited)
Edit: here we are
This is a cut down, bog standard midrange part being sold for £550. It's awful. This thing shouldn't be more than £400 in any sane world, and that *still* allows for a reasonable price hike for Nvidia to cover cost pressure increases. Even £450 wouldn't be good, but might at least feel in the realm of sanity.
Y'all have all lost it, and have been *thoroughly* swindled by Nvidia and their low effort naming shenanigans to make y'all think you're getting more 'premium' than you actually are. (edited)
Quarrelling over a £10 price difference between a processor with & without an X at the end of it. I said I'd happily pay the extra £10 for the better X, plus buy a £10 kebab to enjoy with it - a £20 gross overspend - & they 𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘭 couldn't see the funny side of it
Now days after the RTX4070's release they are now giving out discounts!
Something is about to give!
As a previous poster said this is 100% a buyers market so I think waiting around and not funding leather jacket man's greed is a safe bet providing it doesn't kick off in Taiwan!
Conclusion, skip this gen, get ps5 (edited)
Edit:
I must say - mad respect for clearing your PC backlog. I don't think many people can boast such a thing. (edited)
I'm a really casual gamer (parent) so assume it's a 150w system saving for 3 hours a day for say 200 days a year how much would I expect to save a annually on power?
They’ll come further down, they have a town of these laying around, not to mention the 30 series which has yet to sell out
Thankfully bought a used 5700 XT for £130. The 40 series is just sh*t... But this is a good price for a 4070, however the entire line up is just extortionately expensive.
Hopefully might upgrade to a 50 series or anything else that AMD/Intel rock up in the next two years
No less than a decade on and Nvidia are selling mid-range GPU's at the same price. Talk about inflation!
But this is `Nvidia's strategy and how they milk people. Only every second Gen of GPUs represents a good value.
GTX 1070 was same or faster than 980 ti £400 vs 600
RTX 2070 was same as GTX 1080, but slightly cheaper £450 vs £550
RTX 3070 was as fast as 2080ti, but much cheaper £480 vs £1100
RTX 4070 is same as RTX 3080, bust slightly cheaper £590 vs £650.... (edited)
4070 is the best you'd get for the price.
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You should be OK for a while mate.
Also 12GB won't be enough by next year for high end games. For £550 you'd expect this thing to max out nearly everything for 2-3 years at least. (edited)
Avon & Prop Joe they should have just done graphics card the Nvidia way people are more hooked on then that WMD.
Graphic fidelity is way overrated give a a quality game because I won't be looking at those fancy pixels to care. (edited)