Back up to £497 now
Cold. You can get a 1070 Ti for £20 more.
Back up to £497 now
Cold. You can get a 1070 Ti for £20 more.
Yes but it's literally a pointless task plus you could end up waiting a bit to get your money credited back.
I've seen another product that seems too good to be true on Amazon. Would you know if Amazon would refund the money if nothing is received? Ta.
Not really, you know almost for a 99% fact they are scam sellers. Wouldn't waste the time.
Still worth a punt
"New Sellers" are most likely accounts set up with stolen credit cards.
plus + free games worth of 149 , not bad but this i5 is not enough for GTX 1060 6GB ...
it's been this price since last week Not voting, but these are expected to come down much more in price once the 8th gens are all out would have posted it myself, but it was £999 before, so it;s just £56 off...
Agree with pretty much every point raised in the discussion. The only reason I am still gaming on PC is for the higher frame rates but with PC gaming costs rising and Console cost decreasing, it's harder to justify paying the premium. Graphics have improved so much that the difference between the two are narrower than it's ever been, looking at comparison videos between console and pc graphics it's not night and day like it used to be. There becomes a point where you're engrossed in the gameplay that you don't even notice the minor differences (I know I don't). PC still has a sector that it dominates: VR. PSVR doesn't even come close to what the Vive & Oculus can offer and the momentum is there to keep it pushing forward. I love my Oculus but it really needs higher resolutions along with beefier cards to drive it and when they do arrive I'll be picking them up. From this mining craze, I'm most dissapointed with the retailers cashing in on the GPU shortage though. Gouging the enthusiasts that have supported them for so many years when nvidia themselves are selling at msrp has left a bad taste in my mouth. Fortunately I already upgraded to 1080Ti before the mining craze but if any of these price hikes put people off pc gaming I wouldn't blame them.
Yep, agreed. They're essentially pricing their own customers out of the hobby. Once all the muppets stop mining, there will be a much smaller customer base. If it carries on like this we'll see the decline of PC outlets like Overclockers, Scan etc. I disagree about framerates - The difference between my 60Hz display and my 2 165Hz ones is phenomenal. It's really something when you get a full lockout of 165Hz, especially with GSync.
I think this is not the case, unfortunately. I'm a member of a large gaming forum that regularly features threads on new graphics cards etc. In these, I always see posts from members along the lines of 'hope I have a job in the summer to afford this (premium graphics card)' or 'I've been saving up for months/years to upgrade to this (premium graphics cards).' Nvidia have got people by the knackers with their marketing, making it seem as though these expensive toys are an absolute must.
It's true, 'premium' graphics cards (which really starts from anything above a 1060 now because of Nvidia's continual price hikes) are essentially a massive con if higher framerates than 60fps and/or 4K resolution are things you can live without. I can. And the later you can get with a £260 PS4 Pro for all intents and purposes with that console's 4k checkerboard upscaler. I'd challenge anyone to notice the difference from sitting distance. The problem is, AAA PC games are tethered by the specs of the weakest console out there (Xbox One), so mostly everything is built from the ground up with the lowest common denominator specs-wise in mind. Those PC games that are PC-exclusive are not given the budget or time to offer boundary pushing graphics either. What I'm trying to say is that its absurd Nvidia charging £500+ for graphics cards that essentially are used to power games that can run with good settings on much cheaper hardware. You are now, more than ever, paying a monumental premium to enjoy a tiny improvement in visuals. Subjective opinion of course, but framerates above 60fps I don't notice nearly enough to justify a few hundred pounds more of GPU power. 60fps is perfect for me.
Lol normally this isn't an 'either or' situation and let's be honest if you have £500 spare for a graphics card you don't tend to be short short on money
why expired? it is still instock. RE overclockers customer service i have only had good service from them, and i know of 2 mates who got free warranty upgrades from them. OCCUK went above and beyond. I have heard about the racism thing many years ago, but hasnt the company changed hands since then?
Worse cooling, more fan noise, less overclocking room, plus with the way that GPU Boost 3.0 works this often translates into lower sustained boost clock speeds. If you are spending this much on a GPU, you might as well buy the one with the best/quietest cooling solution that will fit in your case. If you have limited space then the mini might be for you.
Sorry to ask a stupid Question but what's the difference between a mini and a normal one?
I bought from them 10 years ago and swore that I'd never use them again. Sounds like they've not changed.
will never buy from OCUK again, due to their their distinct lack of customer service, racist forum and price gouging
To be honest all I play atm is PUBG so perhaps not worth it. Would also need to shift the 1070 for a reasonable fee to make the jump.
A significant amount, but not entirely bang for the buck. If there's any possibility you could hold out for a 1080ti, it's probably best to wait for that... Or even the 1180ti (cheeky). I think I may be on the same boat as you, currently have a 1070 but have been eyeing the 1080/1080ti's performance for future proofing of 1080p gaming, casual 1440p gaming or future 4k gaming haha. God willing bitcoins crash into an oblivion and helps us out!
How much of an improvement is this on the MSI GTX 1070?
not being sold by Amazon now
Seems like GPU is finally starting to go back to normal price *tear in the eye now if only Ram is going back down in price
I currently use a 46" 1080p 60hz Samsung TV as a monitor. I also have a 28" 4k monitor at 30hz which also has 1440p 60hz. And of course there are loads of 4k TVs eg if you hunt around can get a decent Sony 49" for £400 with low response time AND get Netflix 4k which you don't on a monitor. So I have also wondered if 1440p upsales well on 4k tvs? In theory 1080p should upscale better for 4k displays as just double width double height I think as you say proper 4k 60fps gaming is 2 years away for the masses?
For 4k you need 1080Ti to get anywhere near decent frame rate, but to be frank why bother when you can go 1440p with high 100+fps frame rates with a 980Ti or 1070 and suitable monitor?
this suggests1070ti overclock is same as 980ti overclock in performance guess depend on the model as 1070 more power efficient so if they got a 2x8 pin one surely could massively oc depending on fans? https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/gtx980-ti-strix-oc-vs-gtx1070-strix-oc-benchmarks.235145/
http://www.overclock.net/forum/225-hardware-news/1601896-overclockersclub-overclock-showdown-gtx-980ti-vs-gtx-1070-vs-gtx-1080-a.html compares 1080 1070 980ti OC (but not 1070ti) 1440P overclocked: GTX 1070 is 3% faster than GTX 980Ti GTX 1080 is 23% faster than GTX 980Ti
Nathan_James: I would be holding off just a little longer the 1080 can now be had for £500 Which is bettet for overclocking for 4k 1070ti 1080 980ti 980ti is 300 now. Reference was 6 plus 8 pin but most on ebay have 2x8 pin and I have read revirws of 25pc overclocking. I think based is 40fps ultra 4k so maybe getting there. Or do we just wait a generation as 1080p ultra 60hZ on my rx470
Mine arrived today extremely happy with it performance
I find it seems to run snappier at 120fps if that makes sense, maybe just a placebo effect but seems to be better to the eye.
I tried the game out yesterday. I set everything to high other than draw distance which I set to Epic. This gave me a solid 60fps. Do you get a gameplay advantage from 120fps?
If you check the settings some of the twitch streamers use , they turn off all the fancy stuff to get silky smooth high framerates
Wow just to think I bought this exact card over a year and a bit for £135... Crazy! I have this paired with,a cheap hp office pc I bought on eBay for,around £100 i5 2500, 8gb of ram a 25 quid ssd and it is a very good gaming machine for 250ish. Have some heat.
Not bad for the price. Would be excellent if it had an SSD.
A few of us have been looking on ebay and the panels cost roughly £45. Someone should be able to fit it in an hour so that's probably the other £55. For me personally, the laptop wont be used too much this year as it was bought to replace another laptop which is slowly dying. That's good as I wont be replacing the screen until the 1 year warranty has expired. As I use the laptop more, the screen isn't looking as bad as it did on day 1.
If the screen is that bad why would you settle for £100? I don't mean you would get more, but the £100 will disappear in no time, and you will be stuck with the screen forever. I think if it were me I would rather return it and look for a better deal, because that screen is going to bug you every time you open that laptop. £100 or not, and that to me simply isn't worth it. If you could upgrade it then great, but you can't, so you will be stuck with it.
For 1080p gaming you could easily get away with a 1050ti and a 1060 would be great to kind of future proof it a bit, but this 1050 is going to struggle straight away unless you turn the settings down a bit. Also a massive shame that there's no SSD. I have an ASUS gaming laptop and the build is great, that i5 is a crack. Good price though.
A bunch of us bought the FX503 from AO last week and the TN screen is appalling. As our machines are higher spec that this, I would put money on this having the same crappy screen. As AO F'd up with the screen description, we got £100 back making a price of £609, with the GTX 1060 and 128GB SSD.
I've found with a lot of games, it's 1080p 60fps but because I'm new to PC I use the Nvidia experience thing and found when I use that it changes a lot of settings to medium. R6 for example, That has to go to medium to get it so it doesn't drop below 60 and that's without using the experience thing and playing with settings myself
you actually have a pretty new possessor, the only drawback with the 7th gen i3's is that you only have two real cores. i'd upgrade to a 7th gen i5 if you want to future proof your cpu :)
i agree to some extent, but you can't get a gtx 970 brand new with warranty like with this 1050ti :) i'd prefer the newer 1050ti even if the performance isn't as good.
Mafia 3 is likely a more GPU heavy game then CPU (since it's mainly a single player game), but your CPU will help the GPU perform better for sure.
What's the problem?
Wtf is up with DDR4 ram prices?
Have to agree, should be getting 16gb for this price.
Wtf is up with all these 8gb ram laptop's
The 1060 6gb mobile is about 10% slower than the desktop version. The 3gb is about 10% slower again compared to the 6gb.
Back @ £499.99 if anyone is still interested.
Overclockers have just put the price back to £529.99 :(
The next banking crisis is just round the corner, probably Oct/Nov. Watch the bond market.
Hello, can someone that has one of these tell me what the max power limit is in something like MSI Afterburner? And I would generally be interested in knowing people's overclocking results. Thanks.
This is good news. If the prices continue dropping humanity might be able to afford to do some machine learning again.
Just be aware that lots of us bought a deal last week on AO.com for the FX503 with GTX 1060. It was advertised as having an IPS screen but arrived with an awful TN panel. This machine doesn't say IPS in the description so I would assume its the same TN panel as our 503's. To make this deal even colder, our 503's have 128GB SSD and we only ended up paying £609. (£749 - £40 voucher code - £100 AO refund for incorrect display.)
But you said you have it in your laptop, so what money have you saved? You have paid a lot of money for something that compares to a gaming console.
The idiots that come here saying the 1050 isnt a gaming gpu have no idea what they are talking about so just ignore their bull****. The 1050 sits between a 960m and a 970m and its totally adequate for 1080p gaming on the go and the gaming benchmarks prove that. The 4gb version would be better tho.
People weren't interested when i posted that laptop, went cold
I’d rather save my money and buy something that I need.
What makes you think retailers are buying cheap and selling expensive? I'm sure the wholesale prices are just as inflated at the moment.
in games like fallout 4, watch dogs 2, battlefield 1, ghost recon wildlands, rise of the tomb raider, also most games on 1060 that are behind the 980 are only barely if behind at all
So in what specific situations do you feel a 1060 is better than a 980?
what games you play and what software you use
The same can be said for people who overclock their components. You never know how much voltage they put through the hardware...In the end it comes down to whether it's worth the risk or not.
You’d have to assume you purchased from someone that new what they were doing, and there would never be any guarantee of that.
This is correct.
And an r actually...
Makes sense now. Thanks.
Yes in the description on laptops direct it says single fan although the strix sticker is there on the desktop
Many thanks! Just what I wanted to see - confirms what I thought. It's using the a normal ASUS 1070 GTX rather than the STRIX version (triple fan). All in all I think you've grabbed a great PC at this price point considering the price of individual parts. Enjoy! (y)
Or did you want this screenshot
Is this what you wanted. I can't find any drop down box
I just saw this. Had already downloaded 4th one and selected run don't know where it disappeared as can't find it as nothing happened after that. Will try the 2nd one
what is the story with this website anyway? it's all over the place in their store front and item to item. Whole swathes of missing information on pre-builds. Like what is the motherboard? What is the PSU? If it doesn't list these things, should you expect your pre-build to arrive without them? It's strange. On one build they have for sale it states 8gb ram in the title, yet in the details it says 4gb ram. They seem.... like you wouldn't buy from there, why would you? you don't even know everything that is in the machine. How can this be considered a good deal, when there are components in the machine that could potentially be a stitch up because we don't know what they are.
That’s a good option. Thanks for sharing. It’s not entirely surprising that you get a lesser CPU and better GPU for the same price though
also 'half decent', come on, don't try and pretend that they haven't reinvigorated the application of i3 chips
perfect? no. Better. Objectively yes.
i3 :) :) I know the latest i3 are half decent, but c'mon, don't try and pretend that is the perfect system.
You could have a 6ghz dual core it still wouldn't be enough of a processor for any game today. The i3 6100 however is a dual core with hyperthreading so it effectively has 4 threads to use for gaming. 4 physical cores is of course better than a dual core with hyperthreading however.
3.8ghz of dual core + a lot of games not optimised for multi core
i3-6100 is only dual core processor.
And the 100 quid 1080 TI's.
Love those crap Chinese gtx 970s on ebay featuring 1gb dram.
Had it been the latest chipset, I'd have bought it
Awesome deal. I bought from Amazon at 650... Just dropped them an email to see if they'll price match, doubt they will though. 😣
Hmmm. 7th gen chip, though better life than the dells.
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