MG MOTOR UK ZS 130kW Trophy EV 51kWh 5dr Auto with Solid paint - £28370 @ New Car Discount

This gets brought up a lot, 'the life of the battery' - people seem to have a view that the battery just stops working after 10 years...? There are Leaf's and i3's over 10 years old and I've not seen one that has lost more than a few % of their total battery life.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're really going to regret going with Growatt. They are the worst of the Chinese inverter suppliers (some of the product literature is literally supplied in Mandarin) and failure is a common occurrence. You don't want to have to worry about an aging system a few years down the road - you want peace of mind for 25+ years!

If you can, go with Sharp 400W Panels and a SolarEdge inverter. They are similarly priced and a full system (10X panels with 10X Optimizers + Inverter + 25 year warranty on everything) is sold for £5.8K. Skip the battery for now - you can always add one later, they're only getting cheaper and better, and current export tariffs are really favorable, making the grid act as your battery. The Green MoneySaving forums will help you find the right supplier! (edited)

Chinese reliability is much better than when MGs were made in Britain

Also look how British made Range Rovers are bottom of reliability surveys, bit weird to be laughing looking upwards

I’ve been waiting for mine since November

I'm driving an EV with a 64kw battery, so 20% more than 51kws. Only had it 3 months and have done nearly 3000 miles so far. All sorts of driving from long trips using m0torways to 3 miles round trips to Lidl! So far averaging 5+ miles per kw. With 100% battery the GOM is often showing high 340's range. And My GOM has proven to be 99% trustworthy.

One of my recent long trips was just shy of 190 miles, maybe 100 miles on M5 (at 65mph) and the rest on A and B roads. Arrived with 51% battery remaining.

But like ICE cars, EVS from different manufacturers have different fuel economy figures.

Its easy to find MG EVs get glowing reviews from their owners, there are not too many poor reviews. MG EVs are very capable and a great buy if your budget is sub £30K

If you want an EV and this MG deal appeals then go for it.



And once an EV owner make sure you look at all the 'EV friendly' electricity tariffs out there. Many of us are with Octopus and use the GO tariff. 4 hours every night at 7.5p per kw. In those 4 hours you can put about 25kws into an EV using a home charger. Thts enough fuel for about 90-120 miles of motoring (depening on your car, your driving style and the time of year - as winter range is less than the summer) So on average 100 miles of motoring fuel, every night of the week, for aboiut the same cost a litre of diesel. That saving would soon mount up (edited)

Efficiency is an area where I feel people don't concentrate enough on and just look at battery size and charging speed.
When a car can be 15% more efficient than another car with the same battery size and charging speed, the car will effectively have a 15% "bigger battery" and the charging speed will be 15% "quicker" than the less efficient car.
That's why a car like a standard range Tesla Model 3 is soo compelling as its one of the most efficient EV cars so has a WLTP range over 300miles with its 60kWh battery (WLTP, 267 EPA so real world 220-240) and it puts more 'miles per hour' charging than many others. Other cars of similar battery size would be sub 200 real world.
It seems as if car companies are just relying on people using battery size and charging speed as a means to compare size so don't concern themselves with efficiency. Even Hyundai/Kia who had efficient cars with the original Ioniq's and e-niro/kona have gone backward somewhat with the newer ioniq 5/EV6 with poorer efficiency (although I feel they're still the best non Tesla EV's to go for).

I own an Ioniq 28kWh and and happier to have that then a new e-206 for example with its 50kWh battery. The 206 would go further on a single charge but anything further than than with more than 1 charge, my car would keep up because it charges relatively quick with a flat charging curve and it's super efficient (5.1 miles per kWh from the lake district to London 6 weeks ago with the cruise set to 70mph- 2 charges required on the way).
Day to day, charging from home, the car costs me less then 1p a mile (still on 5p per kWh currently although that is going to change in September).

Lots of factors. I drive from Essex to glasgow several times per year (about 440 miles) in my tesla. I leave the house with a full battery (charged at home so cheap), and charge 2-3 times on the way depending on bladder capacity. It adds about an hour to the journey but we normally stop at least twice for food and loo breaks so we just work around these natural breaks. Yes loads of people will pile in now saying they drive 900 miles in one sitting without a break- not sure if they are liars or masochists to be honest.

Its a different mindset and attitude, you dont think “I’m going to empty my tank then fill up completely”, as batteries fill quicker from low then slow down a lot above 80%, a normal journey is therefore 100%—>20%—>80%—>20%—>80%—>arrive with 15%. It takes a bit of getting used to

Got mine 2nd hand for £18k, that is about the best you can get currently, unless going for a much older leaf etc.
This is a fantastic car, and if you want to go electric, and can afford it, then go for it I say

If I've understood my lad correctly, Octopus have changed things so you have to prove you have an EV in the first place before they'll give you that cheap overnight tariff. That's why he's still with Shell until the Kia arrives.

Also, for the last couple of years, I've only driven about 2,500 miles a year. Octopus's 7p per kWh tariff works out at about 2.3p per mile for your average EV. That sounds like a big reduction from 13.1p per mile but over 2,500 miles, that's a mere £242/year saving for me versus petrol. Spending £23k to save £242/year equates to a 95 year payback. At 66, I'm not sure I can wait that long!! (edited)

I do mean the MG4.
Order books for the 4 open next month, but most dealers will take a refundable £99 pre-order right now.

I live in Sheffield which has a lot of hills which I think does weigh in a bit. Saying that im getting roughly;

285 city miles
220 motorway miles

So far so good.

Totally agree. No point in buyingbecause flying cars will be available one day. Then when flying cars arrive, I'd be hesitant to buy because teleportation could make my flying car redundant. (edited)

just had mine almost 3 weeks, I find it so satisfying just charging at home, my OH loves it, much better than will it or won't it charge game at our local LIDL.

The way to go with leases and EVs is using salary sacrifice. Pay for everything- lease, insurance, service, etc- before tax is taken and benefit in kind is only 2%.

Octopus do this and throw in a charger. I looked into it and the only one that I liked was the Audi Q4 with a 2 year delivery wait. Bought a regular A3 anticipating March delivery and it's now coming early October, sadly (waiting to dump my old diesel on my son but he still can't be bothered to learn- 26yo).

Wow! Just checked the prices and they have increased significantly! (edited)

Why would it go up? A lot of these will be poorly maintained sooty bangers that should have been off the road long ago. I see so many disgusting diesels on the road pumping literal smog into the air I can’t fathom how these cars are passing their MOTs and still on the road. The sooner diesels die off the better frankly.

Pano roof now deleted for any orders after July 1st I think...

Motorway is fine for short or occasional trips. I've gone the length of the country in our Mk1, it just takes a little longer and requires a little patience, but actually having those breaks is quite nice. I wouldn't want to do it every week, but a handful of times a year is fine.

The ioniq is extraordinary with its efficiency (I have a 28kWh) but the ZS doesn't have that level of efficiency.
TeslaBjorn from youtube got 165miles @ 90kmh (56mph) and 107miles @ 120kmh (74.5mph) from the older ZS with its 44.5kWh battery in the norwegian summer.
I suspect this would get around 120-130 @ 70mph if the drivetrain efficiency is like the old one....Although I'd agree with 180-200 with town driving.

You mean the MK1 ? This is the facelift launched end of 2021, the MK1 had a much smaller battery.

Yes

Not everyone buysan electric car for the environment, the only people who mention it are the usually the ones saying don't buy one.

The driving experience is a lot different compared to a manual gear box car. (edited)

That will really show the Chinese government

How many times do you do more than that in one journey without stopping, honestly?

99% of our journeys are under the 160 that the MK1 does this time if year. We just did long journey to alton towers & stopped for breakfast & charge by the time we'd eaten the xar was charged up past 80% for just under £15. Another time same story but charged for free with bonnet app stated for 52 mins as having a nap after eating & charged to 94% on that time for FREE.

I think people are so used to thinking in terms of petrol tanks & unlimited range they're not thinking how much they really need that extra range & that you can recharge in such a short time on a 50kw+ charger

Only my opinion, but, Kia is a few steps up from this. But then would be another £8-10k for similar spec. I'd personally rather spend the extra money and have something better screwed together

I think the majority are questioning EV upfront costs still. It's the main barrier to mass uptake.same principle as replacing home gas systems with heat pumps.( And also the reason why I haven't swapped my 1.4 golf to one just yet) (edited)

My new EV was cheaper than any new diesel at the time

You right, but compared to my old one it's miles apart lol It was the cheapest "family" EV I could buy right now.

I love mine some people would moan if given a Ferrari

Careful!
Mods deleted my comments about supporting a Chinese company as not relevant to the deal. I therefore expect that your statement about the cost in China to be irrelevant to the deal , also

I think it might have been because they couldn't actually sell them, MG closed the order book for a while. I had same experience I actually bought without even test driving it, thought if it was rubbish could always sell it on.

I know right, I would be annoyed if I paid £30k for a car that costs £28,370... /jk

Stick it in sport mode and it's more aggressive in the steering and feels more fun.

Enough