Bosch Exxcel WAQ24461GB 1200rpm A+++ Energy Rated 8kg Load Washing Machine in White, £299 @ Hughes
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Bosch Exxcel WAQ24461GB 1200rpm A+++ Energy Rated 8kg Load Washing Machine in White, £299 @ Hughes

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Found 27th Nov 2014
This is a Black Friday special. I found I was still able to go to Checkout and payment even though it said "temporarily out of stock" in my Basket!

The Bosch Laundry WAQ24461GB combines quality with elegant design to create a brilliant washing machine.

It's A+++ energy rating makes the WAQ24461GB one of the most efficient machines available, designed to save you up to 30% on your washing costs over the average washing machine.

The large 8kg drum provides enough capacity for the largest family load whilst its 1200rpm spin speed will mean your clothes come out drier, and that means less time in the dryer.

Its SuperQuick 15 cycle can clean a lightly soiled, small load in just 15 minutes; ideal for those who need their clothes quickly.

Manufacturer: Bosch
Colour: White

Performance

Energy efficiency class: A+++
Capacity: 8 kg
Maximum spin speed: 1200 rpm
remaining moisture: 58 %
B spin class
Energy consumption :179 kWh per year, based on 220 standard washing cycles
Energy consumption:standard 60 °C cotton programme 0.82 kwh full load and 0.8 kwh partial load and 40 °C cotton programme 0.71 kwh partial load
Cottons/coloreds 60+EcoPerfectCottons/coloureds ECO 60 and cottons/coloureds Eco 40 Cotton/color 40/60+ EcoPerfect are the standard washing programmes to which the information in the label relates. These programmes are suitable to clean normally soiled cotton laundry and are the most efficient programmes in terms of combined energy and water consumption.
Programme time:60 °C cotton programme 196 min at full load 191 min at partial load and 40 °C cotton programme 186 min partial load
Weighted power consumption off-mode / left-on mode: 0.1 W / 1.49 W
Water consumption 8700 litres per year, based on 220 standard washing cycles
Drum volume: 58 litres
Noise level washing : 54dB (A) re 1pW: Noise level spinning:76dB (A) re 1 pW

Programmes/functions

Fully electronic control dial for all wash and special programmes
Special programmes: Dark Wash programme, Allergy Plus, Sports Wear programme, Super Quick 15, Mixed Load, Hand Wash Wool, Wool Programme, Allergy+ programme, Delicate/Silk programme
Touch control buttons: Start / Reload, Reduced Ironing option, Aqua Plus option for best rinsing results, EcoPerfect, SpeedPerfect, Spin speed reduction

Key features

VarioPerfect: speed or energy efficiency with perfect wash performance every time
ActiveWater: water management system
AntiVibration Design - for more stability and quietness

Additional features

Large LED display for programme progress indication, temperature, spin speed, remaining time and 24 hour time delay
Flow-through sensor for optimum water use
3D AquaSpa wash system with cascade for faster water penetration
WaveDrum
Reload facility
Safeguard monitoring system adjusts load distribution and programme settings to protect clothes
Self cleaning detergent drawer
Overdosage indication
Continuous load adjustment
Foam detection system
Divider for Liquid Detergent
Buzzer to indicate the end of cycle
Child lock
Metal door catch

Technical information

Dimensions (H X W X D): 84.8 x 59.8 x 55 cm
Slide-under installation
Large white-black grey door with 165° opening and 32cm porthole opening

2 Year Manufacturer's Bosch Guarantee.

Delivery is Free, though it depends whether you are on a ground floor or not. (I'm on a second-floor flat, no lift, stairs, and it cost £10).

Delivery Options:

Appliance Deliver & Unpack : £0.00
Deliver, Unpack & Remove Old Appliance : £9.99
Deliver, Unpack & Connection : £19.99
Deliver, Unpack, Remove Old & Connection : £24.99

How to turn off or adjust volume on the buttons, and adjust volume/turn off the end of cycle alert: youtube.com/wat…43w

59 Comments

Original Poster

One person on UK Whitegoods rates the WAQ24461GB: ukwhitegoods.co.uk/for…tml

More about this model: ukwhitegoods.co.uk/for…tml"The WAQ is the only range to have the sealed drums. WAE,WAS and WAY all have split tubs." but they still seem encouraging about this model.

September 2013 Which! Best Buy listed here: bsh-group.com/ind…643 The score at the time was "Bosch WAQ24461 £455 77%"

This will replace a Servis (I know!!) that is currently piddling over the floor.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 29th Nov 2014

Original Poster

Manual here: devicemanuals.eu/wp-…pdf
Reviews: reevoo.com/p/b…1gb
testfreaks.co.uk/was…61/

Was circa £400 over a year ago: hotukdeals.com/dea…428
More about the WAQ24461: forums.digitalspy.co.uk/sho…=33
"Pros: Outstanding cleaning and rinsing, great spin, easy to use, time-remaining display, delay finish capability. Cons: Not as water efficient as it sounds, could be quicker."

How to turn off or adjust volume on the buttons, and adjust volume/turn off the end of cycle alert: youtube.com/wat…43w Assume it's the same on this Exxcel model.

From reading around, the WAQ24461GB is a discontinued model, hence the price.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 4th Dec 2014

great find

elky

May also be subject to additional cash back direct form … May also be subject to additional cash back direct form Bosch...http://www.bosch-home.co.uk/bosch-cashback.html



It's not on it's own.

Needs to be brought with a tumble dryer as per the T&Cs

Original Poster

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Control panel:http://content.aolstatic.net/ProductImages/rvLarge/Bocsh_WAQ24461GB_WH-2_L.jpg
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Edited by: "louiselouise" 27th Nov 2014

Original Poster

http://www.pennylane-domestics.co.uk/images/bosch-2-year-guarantee.gif

Register your two-year guarantee for your home appliance
The quality of our appliances is superb - but we know that components do occasionally fail. That's why we offer you a 2-year guarantee FREE.
We strongly recommend that you register your guarantee and appliance with Bosch.
Please register by calling us or register online using the links on the right.
bosch-home.co.uk/cus…tml

Banned

made in turkey, crap compared to the old German made models.

Original Poster

douglas13

made in turkey, crap compared to the old German made models.

UK Whitegoods seem to like this one, which is good enough for me as I respect their opinion.

As for the Bosch Cashback promotion, it seems the WAQ24461GB was part of this offer back in March-April 2014, but the current promo is for models bought with tumble driers. bosch-home.co.uk/cas…tml Might be worth giving them a ring.

Original Poster

whitegoodshelp.co.uk/was…cy/

"For the average person buying an averagely built washing machine, 1200 should be the best compromise between drying efficiency and cost, noise, stability and wear and tear. The figures above show that a 1400 spin washer doesn’t get that much more water out."

So, I bought my Bosch a few months ago now. It is absolutely identical in all respects to this machine, except mine has 1400 spin speed option. Mine cost £409.99 delivered and installed and that was the cheapest available by a long shot then. Had this 1200 been available then, I'd have happily snapped this one up, since I agree with the person above that the extra 200rpm doesn't make that much difference at all. In fact I've noticed no difference at all in the drying times.

My wee review is that it is a great machine. Good large porthole on the door to fit washing in (and out for duvets!). Nice quiet machine when working. I like that the water at the start comes in from top and bottom, not just bottom, so the stuff gets good and wet. My favourite feature of the machine though, is that you can set any load to "aqua plus" by pressing one button. This means that your washing actually gets a decent amount of water, which no matter what anyone says, definitely DOES make your washing cleaner! Great feature if you have plenty rainfall in your area and no water meter! My son loves the 15 minute extra quick wash (which actually takes about 20), though I've never tried it.

I can only think of two negatives to this machine - 1, There is NO half load option! This was important to me when choosing a machine and I had looked at so many that I must have overlooked that check point on this machine, assuming a Bosch would have it! No it doesn't. 2. If you even so much as brush past the machine while it's on, it will change the programme, so be very careful! The slightest feather touch will do it. So now I can't put my machine on in my small kitchen until I'm finished doing everything else, in case I change the programme by mistake. This shouldn't be an issue in a large kitchen or utility room.

Looks wise, it's chunky looking, not so stylish. I dislike the large black ring around the door, I wish they'd made it white, or silver as on the more expensive models as the black is a bit weird looking. Apart from that it's fine. The fascia sticks out somewhat, so if your space is shallow, maybe look at a different machine.

Original Poster

Re the lack of a Half Load option... I thought most modern machines are able to adjust the water/wash time depending on the load anyway, though I could be wrong?

Original Poster

UK Whitegoods has an article about this very subject: whitegoodshelp.co.uk/do-…es/

I will use the Aqua Plus button with every wash-it's well known modern machines don't rinse well. A nightmare for those with allergies. With my old machine I always did an extra rinse.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 27th Nov 2014

I love our exxcel and the 15 minute wash was invaluable with a baby, however the water inlet into powder drawer gets clogged with black gunge, not sure if its just us or a common problem.

great price for an excell model,hot

Original Poster

Not sure if this is up-to-date, but here is some information about Classixx/Avantixx/Exxcel/Logixx models (listed in order from budget range to top-end) and where they are likely manufactured.

hotukdeals.com/dea…549

To my great surprise, the Bosch tabletop dishwasher I've had for nearly two years is "Made In Spain" (never bothered looking before!). SKS51E18EU (RRP around £350).
Edited by: "louiselouise" 29th Nov 2014

My bosch is pretty decent machine, only irritation is that the syphon in the fabric softener compartment becomes clogged pretty regularly, I never had that with my old hotpoint.

It looks in the photo like the paddles in the drum are plastic (could just be the angle of the photo). Washing machine manufacturers do this for one reason alone......cost. Makes me wonder what else they may have cut down on. Are bosch trying to compete on price more now?
Edited by: "MassiveBongFace" 27th Nov 2014

louiselouise

UK Whitegoods has an article about this very subject: … UK Whitegoods has an article about this very subject: http://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/do-i-need-half-load-button-on-washing-machines/I will use the Aqua Plus button with every wash-it's well known modern machines don't rinse well. A nightmare for those with allergies. With my old machine I always did an extra rinse.



That article realy just says that as some machines use "fuzzy logic" now, the half load is obsolete. I disagree with the article that most machines now have the fuzzy logic and disagree that the option is obsolete. Like I said earlier in my post, I use the Aqua Plus button too every time I wash a full load as I never think there is enough water in these "eco" machines. I used to add five one litre jugs of hot water to my old machine before you could actually see any water though the door!

Original Poster

MassiveBongFace

It looks in the photo like the paddles in the drum are plastic (could … It looks in the photo like the paddles in the drum are plastic (could just be the angle of the photo). Washing machine manufacturers do this for one reason alone......cost. Makes me wonder what else they may have cut down on. Are bosch trying to compete on price more now?

I've only ever seen plastic paddles in washing machines, aren't stainless steel paddles something of a rarity? Think it's the quality of the plastic and the design that's crucial. ukwhitegoods.co.uk/hel…tml

"If they are made of a suitably high quality of plastic then they are usually fine and don't break... if they are designed correctly as they are on the ISE10 washing machine then they can be removed easily allowing access to clear out trapped items that may have found their way between the drum and outer tank of the washing machine.

However, poorer quality plastic and, especially what is viewed as "customer misuse" is a common reason for the drum paddles to break.

The most common cause of smashed drum paddles and, often, damage to the drum itself, is washing items that really shouldn't be in a CLOTHES washer, such as mop heads, training shoes and suchlike that people think are okay to machine wash. But even children's shoes can not only smash the plastic drum paddles but they can also dent the inner stainless steel drum itself.

Please remember that a normal domestic washing machine is designed to wash clothes and noting else, it is not designed to wash items such as those mentioned and similar.

Of course you can also get a washing machine (Miele make some) that have metal drum paddles however it is important to remember that whilst these are tougher as a general rule, that the machine is still not designed to wash anything but clothing. There is of course the other obvious disadvantage, they cannot be removed to gain access to trapped items in the tub."
Edited by: "louiselouise" 27th Nov 2014

The first post mentions sealed and split drums.

Article describing sealed drums:

UKwhitegoods link

Original Poster

bill888

The first post mentions sealed and split drums.Article describing sealed … The first post mentions sealed and split drums.Article describing sealed drums:UKwhitegoods link

The comments are interesting, as a few are saying they've replaced bearings in sealed tubs. I'm not an appliance engineer, though

There's a myriad of "How Tos" on Youtube about tackling sealed drums, but it's a bit beyond my ken, you'd really need to know your stuff.

For reference sake (can't verify this list) here is a list of other manufacturers of sealed tubs: washerhelp.co.uk/for…bs/
Edited by: "louiselouise" 27th Nov 2014

Banned

sounds like one to avoid overall

WillieGallimore

sounds like one to avoid overall


How come?

Well you could pick apart every single component of a machine and talk yourself out of virtually any ot them. Let's be sensible here. It's a great machine for the price

kiora_nas

I love our exxcel and the 15 minute wash was invaluable with a baby, … I love our exxcel and the 15 minute wash was invaluable with a baby, however the water inlet into powder drawer gets clogged with black gunge, not sure if its just us or a common problem.


Yes my Bosch is the same

eaxlns

It's not on it's own.Needs to be brought with a tumble dryer as per the … It's not on it's own.Needs to be brought with a tumble dryer as per the T&Cs



"...brought..."! X)

douglas13

made in turkey, crap compared to the old German made models.

so tell us made in UK washing machine then we ll buy rather then Turkish .bosch have own factory in turkey and really quality machines and this price bargain ...
Edited by: "rocco35" 28th Nov 2014

cheers to OP ordered!

This is now also the same price from Hughes via the Tesco Direct website. Looks like it was previously £349.

I'm ordering a washer today . Really not sure what to go for . Anymore deals about ?

Besford

"...brought..."! X)



which dryer did you get and how much cashback do you get?

Original Poster

no1knows

how does this compare? … how does this compare? http://www.johnlewis.com/bosch-wak24260gb-washing-machine-8kg-load-a-energy-rating-1200rpm-spin-white/p1587472


bosch-home.co.uk/our…tml Looks good, though I don't know much about the "Maxx" retailer-only machines, of which this is one. Can also see it in Debenhams, BHS, Appliancesdirect.

From Which!: "The Bosch Maxx collection is what the company refers to as its non-core range - models you will not see in the company brochure or on the website*. Most big retailers, such as Currys, will have a Bosch Maxx model for sale. Sometimes a model will be exclusive to one retailer, other times you'll see the model in a number of different shops, including small independents.

As the machines are not within a classically defined entry, mid or upper range, Maxx models have a mix of capacities and features. The washing machines we've seen or tested range from a small 5.5kg capacity to a large 9kg capacity - the largest capacity washing machine that Bosch currently produces.

Depending on the model, you're likely to pay between £300 and £550 for a Maxx washing machine."

Also, re what kiora_nas and snoopy18 said about dispenser drawer gunge, apparently "Bosch are famous for sludging up big time!" ukwhitegoods.co.uk/for…tml (Though I thought the WAQ24461GB had a self-cleaning dispenser drawer?)..Guess I'll have to find out...don't mind washing the soap dispenser every so often.

*it IS on their website, however
Edited by: "louiselouise" 29th Nov 2014

Could these model numbers be any more confusing?!
I have to buy a washer today (before she leaves me) and maybe a dryer. Preferebly for next day delivery (so seems to knock JL out). any difference between this one and ao.com/pro…spx ?
the WAQ283S1GB has £70 cashback + further cashback if bought with dryer. I think this one, at 299, on has cashback if a dryer is also purchased.

Original Poster

adamski1209

Could these model numbers be any more confusing?!I have to buy a washer … Could these model numbers be any more confusing?!I have to buy a washer today (before she leaves me) and maybe a dryer. Preferebly for next day delivery (so seems to knock JL out). any difference between this one and http://ao.com/product/WAQ283S1GB-Bosch-Washing-Machine-White-29606.aspx ?the WAQ283S1GB has £70 cashback + further cashback if bought with dryer. I think this one, at 299, on has cashback if a dryer is also purchased.

appliance-reviews.co.uk/p/B…ews Here's some reviews here.

This appears to be an Avantixx model. bosch-home.co.uk/our…tml Just to muddy the waters, Argos calls it a "Classixx" but I would assume Bosch know their machines!
Edited by: "louiselouise" 29th Nov 2014

louiselouise

http://www.appliance-reviews.co.uk/p/Bosch-WAQ283S1GB-Washing-Machines-in-White-29606/reviews Here's some reviews here.This appears to be an Advantixx model. http://www.bosch-home.co.uk/our-products/washers-and-dryers/washing-machines/washing-machines-range/WAQ283S1GB.html


Thanks. Hughes website doesn't seem to be playing nicely for me know. Prob down to all this black friday debacle.

adamski1209

Could these model numbers be any more confusing?!I have to buy a washer … Could these model numbers be any more confusing?!I have to buy a washer today (before she leaves me) and maybe a dryer. Preferebly for next day delivery (so seems to knock JL out). any difference between this one and http://ao.com/product/WAQ283S1GB-Bosch-Washing-Machine-White-29606.aspx ?the WAQ283S1GB has £70 cashback + further cashback if bought with dryer. I think this one, at 299, on has cashback if a dryer is also purchased.



VERY confusing indeed! The one you're looking at with the £70 cashback has a few differences that I can see. Firstly, it has a 1400 spin speed, the deal on this thread is max 1200pm. Your cashback one is " brushless", making it quieter in operation (the one on this deal isn't that loud anyway though) and will never need brushes replaced. Your cashback one doesn't have the option to change the temperature of your chosen wash programme, the one on this deal does. The fascia on your cashback model is much less "cluttered" looking than on this thread deal, you have a nice shiny chrome effect main dial and buttons at the side. You have a plain white door, with no black ring round it. I know all the specs of the machine for this thread as I have the virtually identical one (except mine is 1400, not 1200). If I was choosing between your cashback one and the thread deal here, I'd go for the thread deal one as it works out cheaper, the difference between 1200 and 1400 spin really isnt noticeable and you can change the temperature of your chosen wash in the thread deal one, which is really handy and for me is used almost daily.
Edited by: "therealslimkaty" 28th Nov 2014

Original Poster

I didn't realise WAQ283S1GB was a brushless model, thanks, therealslimkaty. The brushless models sound really good, actually, if this thread is to be believed. ukwhitegoods.co.uk/for…tml

"Bosch & Siemens are the same company so whichever make you choose they will all have Siemens manufactured motors fitted to them. Reliability is good, their working life is far longer than brush motors. Their overall torque and speed control far superior and finally their noise level is far far quieter"

Is it worth paying more for brushless motors? "..I imagine the mere fact Siemens give a 10 year guarantee on it may stand in good stead toward their confidence in their motor..I take a more pragmatic viewpoint towards this type of technology, as I have spent over 45 years of my working life fixing domestic appliances..from vast experience that if anything can go wrong it will go wrong. Only the time factor as to when this will occur and at what cost is harder to predict.

Chances are that if the motor holds out for 10 years the other vital components within may not be so resilient, including the very thing that controls the motor. LG have a motor that is also guaranteed 10 years but try getting LG to replace it free of charge is (so I'm led to believe anyway. ;)) another story.

Siemens and Bosch are the same product don't forget. You pay more for a Siemens though, hence why they can afford an extended guarantee period." (from May 2011).
Edited by: "louiselouise" 28th Nov 2014

therealslimkaty

VERY confusing indeed! The one you're looking at with the £70 cashback … VERY confusing indeed! The one you're looking at with the £70 cashback has a few differences that I can see. Firstly, it has a 1400 spin speed, the deal on this thread is max 1200pm. Your cashback one is " brushless", making it quieter in operation (the one on this deal isn't that loud anyway though) and will never need brushes replaced. Your cashback one doesn't have the option to change the temperature of your chosen wash programme, the one on this deal does. The fascia on your cashback model is much less "cluttered" looking than on this thread deal, you have a nice shiny chrome effect main dial and buttons at the side. You have a plain white door, with no black ring round it. I know all the specs of the machine for this thread as I have the virtually identical one (except mine is 1400, not 1200). If I was choosing between your cashback one and the thread deal here, I'd go for the thread deal one as it works out cheaper, the difference between 1200 and 1400 spin really isnt noticeable and you can change the temperature of your chosen wash in the thread deal one, which is really handy and for me is used almost daily.



You must be good at those 'spot the difference' competitions!

Original Poster

If you have your heart set on a Miele, this may be a good option. £649 plus 10% off with the code miele10 (runs out at midnight) which makes it £584.10..then £75 off Cashback..makes it £509.10.

Miele WDA110 1400rpm A++ Energy Rated 7kg Load Capacity Washing Machine in White

hughes.co.uk/hou…015

There is also £75 cashback which makes it even more of a bargain! "£75 Cashback on the New Classic W1 washing machines. This £75 cashback can only be redeemed online" with the £75 off this Miele comes to £509.10. Promo runs 21st November 2014 to 31st January 2015.

miele.co.uk/pro…ck/

Made a Deal post, but doesn't seem that popular!
Edited by: "louiselouise" 28th Nov 2014
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