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Nokia Lumia 930 locked to EE - like new £199.99 sold by EE Ebay shop

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I'm not a massive fan of Windows phones but this looks good. Cheapest sim free is £299 so I guess £199.99 for a like new EE ebay shop return isn't bad.
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  1. the.porter's avatar
    Good price but the worst network to get them unlocked from
  2. deleted950523's avatar
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    the porter

    Good price but the worst network to get them unlocked from



    Been with EE for 4 years soon GiffGaff
  3. Waterbuoy's avatar
    3lj-uk

    Think this would work with the free Fitbit flex promo … Think this would work with the free Fitbit flex promo http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/mobile/campaign-fitbit/ ? Could make it justifiable



    As has been mentioned the serial number may have already been used to claim the promotion, then the phone was returned, no guarantee.

    If you could get the deals and sim free at this price it'd be a stonking deal, still hot though.
  4. RoganWarrior's avatar
    Fantastic phone, great price.
  5. robdevilXI's avatar
    Ebay currys outlet having them almost every week for 199-229 unlocked.
  6. deleted1177875's avatar
    Please note that we had an issue with our picking system. For the orders that placed over the weekend you will get two parcels, one for the phone and one for the SIM. The SIM will arrive in a couple of days as they got sent out by second class post. Orders placed today onwards should be fine.
  7. deleted1245672's avatar
    ontheqt

    I'm not a massive fan of Windows phones but this looks good. … I'm not a massive fan of Windows phones but this looks good. Cheapest sim free is £299 so I guess £199.99 for a like new EE ebay shop return isn't bad.



    charging plate + potential fitbit would have been nice.. but 32GB is so little these days. seems like they have sold out as well.
  8. chancooluk's avatar
    Great price! Ordered. Comes with full manufacturer warranty too, just like a new one.

    The deal link is for the black version. The Silver/Orange version is also available Here
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  9. newsliner's avatar
    the porter

    Good price but the worst network to get them unlocked from



    Couldn't agree more. They took 179 days to unlock my 920. Shocking.
  10. finbaar's avatar
    Just pay the £25 to get it unlocked you cheap tonks. Great deal this Very easy to flash with the country variant firmware as well.
  11. danskis's avatar
    Wonder if it comes with the wireless charging plate or just standard charger. Description on listing not clear. Heat added and ordered a...thanks op
  12. arma_gera's avatar

    most likely no! as some ppl do this buy the phones, claim the freebie and return it.

    danskis

    Wonder if it comes with the wireless charging plate or just standard … Wonder if it comes with the wireless charging plate or just standard charger. Description on listing not clear. Heat added and ordered a...thanks op

  13. deleted141452's avatar
    There is a reason these are coming down in price.. Production is stopping to move onto the next flagship windows phone which is the 940. Due about may rumors state.. I've got the 920 and just put windows 10 on it.. I wouldn't recommend windows 10 yet for anyone other than devs as its missing a lot, including hardware graphics accelleration. Anyway, back to matters... these will drop further I believe... low price point of £150 - £140 is about where they will settle to get rid of stock
  14. UnclePotter's avatar
    barryallott

    There is a reason these are coming down in price.. Production is stopping … There is a reason these are coming down in price.. Production is stopping to move onto the next flagship windows phone which is the 940. Due about may rumors state.. I've got the 920 and just put windows 10 on it.. I wouldn't recommend windows 10 yet for anyone other than devs as its missing a lot, including hardware graphics accelleration. Anyway, back to matters... these will drop further I believe... low price point of £150 - £140 is about where they will settle to get rid of stock



    Then I shall be ready to pounce,Mrs wants a new phone and that could just get me some Brownie points..:p
  15. 3lj-uk's avatar
    Think this would work with the free Fitbit flex promo microsoft.com/en-…it/ ? Could make it justifiable
  16. TylerDurdenUK's avatar
    Shame this phone doesn't support glance screen (afaik), I'm looking to replace my 920 soon.
  17. WendyAndHerBloke's avatar
    ontheqt

    Been with EE for 4 years soon GiffGaff



    you must have one of those HUKD time-machines, as EE only started in 2012!
  18. tommay's avatar
    the porter

    Good price but the worst network to get them unlocked from


    agreed
    took them months to unlock my Nokia 920. then when it had a fault I took it in to them for repair, it came back locked again and it took them months to unlock it again!
  19. deleted950523's avatar
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    TwistedNerve

    you must have one of those HUKD time-machines, as EE only started in 2012!



    Ah I was with T-mobile the golden age. Just feels like 4 years looking forward to the divorce.
  20. WillPS's avatar
    Just to balance things up, I've been with (4G)EE 6 months and I've got no problems with the customer service, especially on the Mobile side. I made a bit of a mistake moving my Home Broadband to them, and their CS is a bit pish.

    Coverage is great; even getting 4G out in the sticks in some places now.
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  21. deleted950523's avatar
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    WillPS

    Just to balance things up, I've been with (4G)EE 6 months and I've got no … Just to balance things up, I've been with (4G)EE 6 months and I've got no problems with the customer service, especially on the Mobile side. I made a bit of a mistake moving my Home Broadband to them, and their CS is a bit pish.Coverage is great; even getting 4G out in the sticks in some places now.



    My gripe with EE is that the phone signal where I live used to be good, but since 4G its pants. Even if you set your mobile to 3G only its still pants. I've swapped mobiles three times in the last two years of this contract and just as bad. I've been getting by by paying skype for wifi minutes as I am unable to use the unlimited minutes I receive from EE as the phone either doesn't connect or ends mid call. 02/giffgaff/tesco mobile has full signal so in these days of roaming i'm unsure of the issue. I'm also annoyed that there was an issue of my data 2gb vanishing each month within three days of each new allowance, this was despite turning data off on my phone to conserve. Customer services blamed my use of the phone and when I escalated my complaint the CS was darn rude beyond reproach. In my opinion the company isn't one i've been happy with which is a terrible shame as before it was EE and the original T-mobile they were fantastic. I guess that's what take overs can do. Perhaps BT will improve things, but even they have issues.

    To balance things up I know allot of peeps who are very very happy with EE. They offer allot for you pay and when things go wrong with hardware they replace without fuss, just a shame about their CS. I intend to move to GiffGaff soon but there is a strong chance Threes take over of o2 will ruin that operator and put english folks out of jobs as o2 is one to have support located in this country.
  22. chancooluk's avatar

    Most 930's have a simple wireless charging plate in the box, in addition to the portable wireless plate which could be claimed for, that offer has ended now though.

    arma_gera

    most likely no! as some ppl do this buy the phones, claim the freebie and … most likely no! as some ppl do this buy the phones, claim the freebie and return it.




  23. danskis's avatar
    TylerDurdenUK

    Shame this phone doesn't support glance screen (afaik), I'm looking to … Shame this phone doesn't support glance screen (afaik), I'm looking to replace my 920 soon.


    Thanks for pointing that out. Lost my Lumia 920 a couple of weeks back, got a 735 as a temp replacement but just cant live without glance which I thought this would have. Its enough for me to send this deal back.
  24. WillPS's avatar
    ontheqt

    My gripe with EE is that the phone signal where I live used to be good, … My gripe with EE is that the phone signal where I live used to be good, but since 4G its pants. Even if you set your mobile to 3G only its still pants. I've swapped mobiles three times in the last two years of this contract and just as bad. I've been getting by by paying skype for wifi minutes as I am unable to use the unlimited minutes I receive from EE as the phone either doesn't connect or ends mid call. 02/giffgaff/tesco mobile has full signal so in these days of roaming i'm unsure of the issue. I'm also annoyed that there was an issue of my data 2gb vanishing each month within three days of each new allowance, this was despite turning data off on my phone to conserve. Customer services blamed my use of the phone and when I escalated my complaint the CS was darn rude beyond reproach. In my opinion the company isn't one i've been happy with which is a terrible shame as before it was EE and the original T-mobile they were fantastic. I guess that's what take overs can do. Perhaps BT will improve things, but even they have issues. To balance things up I know allot of peeps who are very very happy with EE. They offer allot for you pay and when things go wrong with hardware they replace without fuss, just a shame about their CS. I intend to move to GiffGaff soon but there is a strong chance Threes take over of o2 will ruin that operator and put english folks out of jobs as o2 is one to have support located in this country.


    Signal can be/become crap with any operator. The Orange/T-Mobile merger has undoubtedly brought great advantages to most (as a former Virgin Mobile customer (piggybacking on T-Mobile) I noticed I could use my phone/data in little villages in Norfolk where I'd had no coverage previously) the rationalisation that followed has enevitably hurt some.

    It truly sucks that any network can, if they choose, close any mast they want at any stage. I've heard of plenty of cases of every network doing that. It sucks that Ofcom have been so toothless as to allow it to happen. That doesn't mean to say EE are blameless, far from it, but every other network is guilty of the same thing to some extent.
  25. dead_ted's avatar
    This is a good deal but I'm really struggling to see why the 930 is worth the premium over the 830.

    Yes, from a pure CPU power perspective the 930 trounces the 830. My problem is you pay for it. The 930 is quite a bit thicker and heavier, it doesn't have any expandable storage and it lacks glance (which is a key feature imo).

    With the 830 you get glance, a micro SD slot and a thinner, lighter body. You lose the higher res screen, the camera is slightly inferior and obviously the specs are worse. I don't think the difference in screen resolution is really that palpable. You're just not going to have a massively different experience on a 5" 1080p OLED than you would on a 5" 720p IPS. I've tried both, the difference is so slight that I can safely say that the advantage is almost negligble. The camera is definitely a bit better on the 930, but enough to matter? With the 830 you still have a camera that's better than 99% of android phones. You still get OIS and unless you're zooming in on everything the megapixel count isn't a deal breaker.

    The only thing that's really in the 930's favour as I see it is the CPU... but this is a windows phone right? They're built for low specs. From trying both in the shop the difference in actually usability was slim to none. If you're buying a phone for games then you probably wouldn't be looking at windows phones in the first place. I can't think of a reason why you'd chose the 930 over the 830 other than for the largely placebo effect of having a faster CPU.

    Please feel free to disagree. I don't own either and I'm playing up my options since I'm due for an upgrade next week.

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  26. chancooluk's avatar

    Is there really a premium over the 830? The 830 is still £200-£250 from most places. The cheapest on ebay is £190 for a used one.

    I have owned both, here are the problems I have with the 830 (my current phone):

    The GPU is weak. Its just not powerful enough for anybody who likes a bit of gaming. Even Rayman Jungle Run and Fiesta Run lag a lot when the stages get more complex, and simple 3D games like Disney Cars become almost unplayable because of the low frame rate.

    The screen gets washed out when viewed from a diagonal angle, which diminishes the premium look of the device.

    The camera is good, better than most androids at the same price, but it is nowhere near the quality of the camera on the 930.

    The 930 also has 4K video capture, and the 'Hey Cortana' passive voice activation thanks to the 'Denim' update. These additions will never make it to the 830 as the SD400 chipset doesn't support them. Personally I would prefer those additions over the glance screen.

    I also have an image retention issue with the glance screen on my 830. The default setting keeps the glance screen on at all times when the phone is plugged into the charger. Leaving this setting on causes a ghost image of the clock and notifications to appear over darker colours when the phone is in use. I've found it can take up to a few hours for the ghost image to disappear from the screen. Simply turning off the 'always show glance when charging' and keeping the main setting set to 'peek' mostly solves the issue though.

    The only thing I would really miss is the Micro SD card support. That would be a big thing for me to give up, as I like having thousands of songs available to listen to over Bluetooth while I'm driving.

    dansax

    This is a good deal but I'm really struggling to see why the 930 is worth … This is a good deal but I'm really struggling to see why the 930 is worth the premium over the 830.Yes, from a pure CPU power perspective the 930 trounces the 830. My problem is you pay for it. The 930 is quite a bit thicker and heavier, it doesn't have any expandable storage and it lacks glance (which is a key feature imo).With the 830 you get glance, a micro SD slot and a thinner, lighter body. You lose the higher res screen, the camera is slightly inferior and obviously the specs are worse. I don't think the difference in screen resolution is really that palpable. You're just not going to have a massively different experience on a 5" 1080p OLED than you would on a 5" 720p IPS. I've tried both, the difference is so slight that I can safely say that the advantage is almost negligble. The camera is definitely a bit better on the 930, but enough to matter? With the 830 you still have a camera that's better than 99% of android phones. You still get OIS and unless you're zooming in on everything the megapixel count isn't a deal breaker. The only thing that's really in the 930's favour as I see it is the CPU... but this is a windows phone right? They're built for low specs. From trying both in the shop the difference in actually usability was slim to none. If you're buying a phone for games then you probably wouldn't be looking at windows phones in the first place. I can't think of a reason why you'd chose the 930 over the 830 other than for the largely placebo effect of having a faster CPU.Please feel free to disagree. I don't own either and I'm playing up my options since I'm due for an upgrade next week.






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  27. dead_ted's avatar

    Thanks for the opinion. Very helpful to hear from someone who actually owns an 830. I'm still not convinced though.

    chancooluk

    Is there really a premium over the 830?



    On contract there definitely is.

    chancooluk

    The GPU is weak. Its just not powerful enough for anybody who likes a bit … The GPU is weak. Its just not powerful enough for anybody who likes a bit of gaming. Even Rayman Jungle Run and Fiesta Run lag a lot when the stages get more complex, and simple 3D games like Disney Cars become almost unplayable because of the low frame rate.



    I don't understand why you'd want a Windows phone if you're even remotely interested in gaming. They're just not ideal. As far as gaming goes Apple > Android > Windows in my experience. Even a 5C is likely to give you a more robust and consistent experience in my view. Hardware isn't everything. I have an ipad air 1st gen and quite frankly it wipes the floor with anything non-Apple that I've used. Even top of the line Android phones just don't cut it for some reason.

    chancooluk

    The screen gets washed out when viewed from a diagonal angle, which … The screen gets washed out when viewed from a diagonal angle, which diminishes the premium look of the device.



    Accepted, although the 830 is IPS which is still a lot better than some panels.

    chancooluk

    The camera is good, better than most androids at the same price, but it … The camera is good, better than most androids at the same price, but it is nowhere near the quality of the camera on the 930.

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    Nowhere near? Really? From the comparisons I've seen that seems to be a huge overstatement.

    chancooluk

    The 930 also has 4K video capture, and the 'Hey Cortana' passive voice … The 930 also has 4K video capture, and the 'Hey Cortana' passive voice activation thanks to the 'Denim' update. These additions will never make it to the 830 as the SD400 chipset doesn't support them. Personally I would prefer those additions over the glance screen.



    I can see how some people would find those features useful, but for myself and (I'm assuming) most people, 4k is irrelevant because they don't have anything to play it on. The difference between having or not having Hey Cortana is a press of a button. I'm not convinced when set against Glance, which provides a very tangible benefit in usability, for me at least.


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  28. chancooluk's avatar
    dansax

    On contract there definitely is.



    The deal isn't for a contract though is it? Not everybody wants a contract.

    dansax

    I don't understand why you'd want a Windows phone if you're even remotely … I don't understand why you'd want a Windows phone if you're even remotely interested in gaming.



    Because gaming isn't everything. I prefer Windows Phone for many reasons when compared to Android and iOS. Gaming is secondary for me, but I like the games to work properly when I play them.

    dansax

    Nowhere near? Really? From the comparisons I've seen that seems to be a … Nowhere near? Really? From the comparisons I've seen that seems to be a huge overstatement..



    I stand by this. I actually got better shots from the Lumia 735 (I had both the 735 and 830 at one point), despite the lower MP count. It took better shots in low light, had more accurate colours, and took far better close up shots. The only thing lacking was OIS and the camera button, otherwise I preferred the images captured by the 735.

    dansax

    for myself and (I'm assuming) most people, 4k is irrelevant because they … for myself and (I'm assuming) most people, 4k is irrelevant because they don't have anything to play it on.



    I agree to a point. I have nothing which can play 4K at full resolution, but that's not what I want it for. When recording in 4K you can extract 8.3MP images directly from the video (using moment capture on a Lumia). Extracting an image from a 1080p video results in a pretty rubbish 2MP image.
  29. dead_ted's avatar
    chancooluk

    Because gaming isn't everything. I prefer Windows Phone for many reasons … Because gaming isn't everything. I prefer Windows Phone for many reasons when compared to Android and iOS. Gaming is secondary for me, but I like the games to work properly when I play them.



    I should rephrase what I said. I don't understand why anyone interested in gaming would want a Windows phone. I agree with your sentiments completely. I have no interest in gaming on my phone, which is exactly why I'm looking at Windows phones in the first place.

    chancooluk

    I stand by this. I actually got better shots from the Lumia 735 (I had … I stand by this. I actually got better shots from the Lumia 735 (I had both the 735 and 830 at one point), despite the lower MP count. It took better shots in low light, had more accurate colours, and took far better close up shots. The only thing lacking was OIS and the camera button, otherwise I preferred the images captured by the 735.



    This surprises me. Out of interest, did you compare each of these using the Lumia app or the older Nokia one?

    chancooluk

    When recording in 4K you can extract 8.3MP images directly from the … When recording in 4K you can extract 8.3MP images directly from the video (using moment capture on a Lumia). Extracting an image from a 1080p video results in a pretty rubbish 2MP image..



    I have to admit I hadn't really thought of this. I agree that it's useful, but worry that the 32GB memory would make the feature less useful than it should be.
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  30. chancooluk's avatar
    dansax

    This surprises me. Out of interest, did you compare each of these using … This surprises me. Out of interest, did you compare each of these using the Lumia app or the older Nokia one?



    Using a mixture of the latest available Lumia Camera app (which wasn't the latest Lumia Camera 5 at the time), and the default WP Microsoft Camera app. I always preferred the default Microsoft Camera app is it launched instantaneously, whereas the older version of Lumia Camera took a few seconds to start. The difference in image quality between the two apps was negligible (at least on auto settings).

    I have since updated the Lumia 830 to the latest Denim firmware, which includes the new Lumia Camera 5. The extras included in the new camera app are nice, such as the ability to control HDR exposure and flash strength after the image has been shot. However, it has an unfortunate tendency to over-compress images. The new app captures images at about 1-2MB in size on my 830, whereas the Microsoft Camera, and older Lumia Camera (still available as 'Lumia Camera Classic') apps both capture in the 2MB-5MB range per image. It really shows when viewing the images at full resolution, a lot of the small details are blurred into a mush.

    The new app does have the option to save a lossless "digital negative" (.dng) image, but these obviously completely lack any post-processing, which means the colours are way off. It also takes a long time to save the images with dng support enabled.
  31. chancooluk's avatar
    Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless charging plate, and it was eligible for the free Fitbit Flex offer, which I have successfully redeemed.
  32. danskis's avatar
    chancooluk

    Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless … Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless charging plate, and it was eligible for the free Fitbit Flex offer, which I have successfully redeemed.

  33. danskis's avatar

    Unfortunately my one was not

    chancooluk

    Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless … Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless charging plate, and it was eligible for the free Fitbit Flex offer, which I have successfully redeemed.

    chancooluk

    Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless … Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless charging plate, and it was eligible for the free Fitbit Flex offer, which I have successfully redeemed.

    chancooluk

    Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless … Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless charging plate, and it was eligible for the free Fitbit Flex offer, which I have successfully redeemed.

    chancooluk

    Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless … Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless charging plate, and it was eligible for the free Fitbit Flex offer, which I have successfully redeemed.

    chancooluk

    Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless … Had mine delivered today by UKMail. It comes with a DT-601 wireless charging plate, and it was eligible for the free Fitbit Flex offer, which I have successfully redeemed.

  34. vicuong's avatar
    Just got my 930 and had the following issues:

    1) sim card tray broken
    2) at first couldn't detect sim card
    3) had minor hair line scratches
    4) wasn't eligable for the fitbit promotion

    big mistake on my part to take this deal.

    lesson learnt when purchasing from ee-uk store
  35. deleted950523's avatar
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    vicuong

    Just got my 930 and had the following issues:1) sim card tray broken2) at … Just got my 930 and had the following issues:1) sim card tray broken2) at first couldn't detect sim card3) had minor hair line scratches4) wasn't eligable for the fitbit promotionbig mistake on my part to take this deal.lesson learnt when purchasing from ee-uk store


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