Been on this for a few months.
This was today's prices:
This was today's prices:
Unfortunately, this deal has expired 27 October 2023.
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Posted 9 June 2023
Beat the energy price cap on electric with the ‘Agile’ tariff. Example rates tomorrow 0.84p-32.55p/kWh *No Referrals* @ Octopus Energy
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This deal is expired. Here are some options that might interest you:
On the back of the success of the previous OE tariff I shared I wanted to bring another tariff to people’s attention who either missed that deal or didn’t see it at all. It’s the Agile Tariff from Octopus Energy.
First of all, this one is a more complex product than arguably any other tariff on the market, so if you’re going to be put off by high headline peak prices, you’re unlikely to have a constant awareness of prices or are unable to load shift then this is unlikely to be a product worth considering. This tariff is designed for homes with storage heaters, electric cars or people who can shift their energy usage into off peak times.
At present, the energy price guarantee rates for electric are on average (for direct debit customers) 33.21p/kWh with a standing charge that varies by region. That will fall to 30.11p from 1st July when the Ofgem cap will fall below the EPG cap.
With Octopus Agile, rates change every 30 minutes in line with the wholesale cost of energy which has fallen significantly from its summer 2022 peak. It’s possibly the only tariff which is immediately* available which allows people to reduce costs below the cap. (Other tariffs such as Intelligent and Go would also allow this but an EV is required). Prices tomorrow for example range from 1p to 32p. On rare occasions you might even get to paid to use energy if prices go negative, but that’s only happened for 15 hours in the last year so isn’t really worth considering.
Below is a comparison using Octopus Compare of a household who hadn’t made any efforts to load shift and compares the price that would be paid on the standard variable tariff (Flexible Octopus) vs the proposed Agile Tariff. As you can see they would have averaged a unit rate of 18p rather than 33p with a saving of £110 in one month.
Here’s some historic and future prices also:
Some frequently asked questions can be found here Agile FAQs but the most important one is, you need a smart meter that octopus can connect to which sends half hourly readings. This is generally a SMETS2 or a SMETS1 manufactured by Secure. This is also an electric only tariff so if switching gas and electric to OE your gas would remain on standard variable prices on their ‘Flexible’ tariff.
Ask around friends and family for a referral link to share £100 free account credit but please do not share any in the comments below or by PM.
First of all, this one is a more complex product than arguably any other tariff on the market, so if you’re going to be put off by high headline peak prices, you’re unlikely to have a constant awareness of prices or are unable to load shift then this is unlikely to be a product worth considering. This tariff is designed for homes with storage heaters, electric cars or people who can shift their energy usage into off peak times.
At present, the energy price guarantee rates for electric are on average (for direct debit customers) 33.21p/kWh with a standing charge that varies by region. That will fall to 30.11p from 1st July when the Ofgem cap will fall below the EPG cap.
With Octopus Agile, rates change every 30 minutes in line with the wholesale cost of energy which has fallen significantly from its summer 2022 peak. It’s possibly the only tariff which is immediately* available which allows people to reduce costs below the cap. (Other tariffs such as Intelligent and Go would also allow this but an EV is required). Prices tomorrow for example range from 1p to 32p. On rare occasions you might even get to paid to use energy if prices go negative, but that’s only happened for 15 hours in the last year so isn’t really worth considering.
Below is a comparison using Octopus Compare of a household who hadn’t made any efforts to load shift and compares the price that would be paid on the standard variable tariff (Flexible Octopus) vs the proposed Agile Tariff. As you can see they would have averaged a unit rate of 18p rather than 33p with a saving of £110 in one month.
Here’s some historic and future prices also:
Some frequently asked questions can be found here Agile FAQs but the most important one is, you need a smart meter that octopus can connect to which sends half hourly readings. This is generally a SMETS2 or a SMETS1 manufactured by Secure. This is also an electric only tariff so if switching gas and electric to OE your gas would remain on standard variable prices on their ‘Flexible’ tariff.
Ask around friends and family for a referral link to share £100 free account credit but please do not share any in the comments below or by PM.
More details at Octopus Energy has currently £50 credit for you and the referrer when you sign up with Octopus Energy campaign, if you want to use it you can do so from this .
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- Perhaps try octopus flex tariff if you also have battery storage. Lets you export at 22p/kw and 35p/kw during 4-7pm
I use 10 kWh a day
30% phantom load
20% during the peak period
Been on agile since May and I am saving around £2 a day
I'll be the first to ask if this is better than the tracker tariff ?
AuthorIt’s just not a question that can be answered sorry. If you use most of your electric between 1600-1900 then no but if you can shift and avoid those times like in the middle of the night or mid afternoon/late morning then yes possibly.
Prefer the Octopus tracker tariff. Been paying around 3.5 - 4p per kWh of gas for months and electricity is floating around 16-17p per kWh too. There's an element of risk that it may shoot up, but since we started getting LNG from Canadian and US ships, prices have been pretty low and stable. Electricity prices are closely pegged to gas price movements as about half our electricity is derived from gas.
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That's interesting. Can ask what the standing charge for gas is on Octopus Tracker? For 7 months of the year, we only burn about 5kWh/day just to heat up a cylinder full of hot water, so we're paying roughly 50p for the gas & 27p in standing charge. I've moved my leccy to Octopus but have left the gas with EDF. (edited)- I switched to Agile in February and got on the waiting list for Tracker. For the month 8th May to 8th June I was able to achieve an average unit rate of 19p per kWh on Agile. It was 21p the previous month. Where possible, we run large appliances between noon and 4pm which is usually the lowest price time of day. Failing that, overnight between midnight an 4am(ish) are often pretty low. The cheapest rates are on sunny windy afternoons, like tomorrow. We're high users and saved around £80 last month by being on Agile compared to the capped rate in our area of 33.6p
They publish the rates for the next day around 4pm so you can plan ahead.
If I had been on Tracker last month it would have worked out a further couple of pence less per kWh than Agile without having to try. The gas is the killer, though. It's often been less than 4p per kWh over the last month and we're still paying over 10p on Octopus Flexible. I can't wait to get on to Tracker in July.
On Gas Tracker I've been paying between 3 and 4p per kw for some time now
On my electricity I am on Octopus GO. I have time shifted all heavy power use appliances to the cheap rtae period. I also charge my car in this cheap rate. My average cost per kw this year has been Jan 9.45p, Feb 9.35p, March 10.26p , April 11.18p. 
I have done a few calculations since I have been on Agile now based on the last 11 days. The only effort I have made to load shift is for the car charging.
Total usage 130kwh, of that 130kwh I charged the car using 53.6kwh.
Total Costs on Agile: £25.85.
Total Costs based on Intelligent Octopus (based on charging at night @0.075p): £43.99 - average 0.2455p (0.416p + 0.075p /2)
Total Costs based on Octopus Flexible (standard tariff): £50.13
(Total costs incl standing charge)
I managed to charge the car at an average of 0.1312p per kwh on Agile.
In isolation on Agile car charging cost me approx £6.50-£7.00.
In isolation on Intelligent Octopus car charging would have cost me approx £4.02.
In isolation on Octopus Flexible (standard tariff) car charging would have cost me approx £19.59.
I am saving an overall of 50% based on the standard tariff and 41.24% against Octopus Intelligent.
Agile is the clear winner based on overall usage, I am essentially getting cheaper energy AND practically free car charging if you were to look at it from this perspective.
I have only had one day of sub 10p rates also.
Of course there is risk of rates shooting up but we can cross that bridge IF we come to it.
My main concern was the difference between Agile and Intelligent Octopus as I could not decide between the two, it is clear that you will save against the standard tariff (Flexible).
Based South East.
I hope that helps with anyone still toying with the idea. (edited)
For anybody still considering agile vs tracker ahead of them supposedly opening up for more applications and removing the waiting list, the octopus compare app now has tracker as an option, so you can see which is better.
i was right for me - there were only 3 days in the last month where agile was cheaper and tracker cost us £5.50 less overall (around 10%). (edited)
Do you know if you still have to wait 30 days to swap?
Be warned.
Historic rates from last August show averages at c55p per day.
What the above doesnt mention is that this tariff relies heavily on green energy. If winds drop in August, as they did last year, prices rocket up.
Im currently using this but plan to move away in July.
Just understand this and make the most of it now. (edited)AuthorThankfully, past performance is no indication of future performance. Stick with it while it’s cheap, when there’s something better available, switch!
Agile tomorrow (23rd august) is peaking at 63.42p :/
Yes prices are creeping up, it could be Europe filling their gas storage that is also pushing up Gas prices that leads to higher Elec prices, there was also some strike in Australia that has threatened to increase prices.
Tracker is around 21p tomorrow which is the highest for quite some time. Lets hope its eases or this coudl be the start of higher prices as we head into Autumn / Winter season
Octopus. One of the worst customer service ive ever seen. Been without my smart meter for 3 months and zero help from these clownsI joined them in February and they couldn't connect to my smart meter. Finally got someone coming out on Tuesday to look at it after 4 months! So would agree it's not the best
So we're you responsible for the 6 month wait list being added to the tracker tarrif I was planning on going in it but then some bright spark decided put it in HotUKDeals I believe and they got overwhelmed and put a 6 months waiting list and reduced to 50 people owe day, I think word of mouth to friends and family to switch Octopus is best option not in this site.
Moved to the tracker in Feb because of the OP (Thanks Speedbird) and I can honestly say it has saved me more money in that time than everything else I've purchased from hot deals combined
Is that a fixed deal of sorts?
If that is a fixed deal then you would be a mug
All data predicts half that in 3 months.It follows the live daily gas price ie cheap now prices not on 3 months time . But Dutch gas was up over 10% just today so it will be volatile tarrif
I'm currently on eonnext nextflex, with paper billing, day rate 46.04p/kWh, night rate 17.96p/kWh, standing charge 62.36p/day. how does this compare, and how easy it is to change to Octopus?
This is today's Tracker pricing in the UK (north east)
Agile is much more complicated and needs you to actively pay attention.
As easy as switching to any company can do online and be switched in 5 days (use a refferal link for a free £50 credit) Tracker has a wait list tho atm. (edited)
Hey all, i am currently on Flexible Octopus for both gas and electric, for the life of me i can't see any options on the website when i am logged in, to switch tariffs? is it me? LOL I'd love to get on the tracker
Getting a choice between Tracker and Agile.
New to all this. My usage is around 2000kWh a year. Spread mostly throughout the day but use most during late evenings.AuthorI’d go for tracker and save yourself the extra thought process of load shifting
I have been with Octopus about a month, I wanted to get on the Tracker tariff but there was a 6 month waiting list, I then received an email saying that its back on from the start of July. The rates on the tracker have been very good compared to the cap, but sometimes they can rise above the cap to a limit of £1 but you can switch back to variable if you wish quickly they say.
If you are not with Octopus and looking to switch look on ebay there are £80 referalls on there where you get £50 from octopus and after sign up the person sends you £30 (from their £50). I did this and it all went smooth, obviously pick someone with good feedback etc... worst case is you only get £50.
You can see the history of the tracker tariff (and others) if you google my smart energy.
On a side note, I'm happy with my smart meter, it actually flagged that my dishwasher was heating up after it had finished (faulty pcb it seems). It makes me think about my energy use and the gas is shown in actual kwh used rather than cubic meteres and having to convert just to work out how much I'm getting robbed- Can someone help,I'm with British gas,electric only ,I live in a 2 bedroom flat,if I change to octopus what would be the best tariff. Thanks for your help.
There are two tariffs on octo that people are enthusiastic about:
Agile and Tracker.
Agile is a rate that changes every hour, according to live data (goes up and down). And Tracker is a rate that changes daily.
The benefit of Agile is that elec is much cheaper e.g. overnight or hours that are really windy (as there is less demand on the grid they charge us less). Which can be handy for charging an EV.
There are also 'plunge pricing' moments where elec is free (e.g. if it's been really windy). Great if you're willing to shift your usage to these times.
However, my conclusion is that it's just not worth the agro of checking the hourly rates just so I can put the dishwasher on for a fraction of a penny cheaper.
So... Tracker is your best bet
Like I said, I was on Agile for a month and it wasn't worth it in terms of savings nor effort. Life on Tracker is much better and I'm saving a third every month compared to my peers who are with BG, Eon etc
The nitty gritty is:
Unit rate for 1000W from Eon was 30p last I checked,
With Octopus Tracker it's on average 18p (changes daily - see my screenshot for this week)
BUT... Be aware that the rates on Tracker might shoot up over the winter as gas usage increases OR if Russia pulls another dumb move and invades xyz.
So, some of this thread are on Tracker/Agile currently, but will look to move off immediately if the prices shoot up too high - of which there's a 2 week waiting period. Best thing to do is to stay subbed to this thread for news.
Hope that helps! 
Thanks OP. Where do you get the current and future hourly Agile prices from?AuthorEither in your octopus account or octopus compare app. Octo aid can too. Or if you google something like ‘agile prices’ you’ll get a few sites giving that info (edited)
Been on this since March or so - works out well when shifting load outside peak. Also better for us than variable considering 80% of the day has been less than the variable cap rate. Likely to be more volatile closer to winter though.I was just thinking that winter might change things, with an ASHP I’ll not sure if it’s worth the risk? I think I would have to do 30 days on the standard tariff before changing to/from Cosy to Agile and vice versa which is annoying. Hmm thinking face..
We're currently (no pun intended) back on the Agile tariff which we signed up to a few years ago, but luckily changed to Octopus Go just before the energy crisis took off, and this saved us loads as they kept us on a low trariff for the greater duration of this period (20:30-23:00? @4.5p) so we used to charge the Hybrid car and do the washing etc. When this ended, and there was a waiting list for tracker we opted to go back on Agile.We use various apps on Apple (don't know about Andriod) to check upcoming rates and history too, such as Octopus Watch, where you can input how many hours you want to run an appliance, in our case the Hybrid for 2.5 Hrs from flat, and it shows the cheapest time period coming up as well as showing historical useage. Another as the OP has stated is Octopus Compare, where you can put in the tariff your on, then check your usage against the tariff your intested in. Another is Octo-Aid which has a good forecast and historical usage graphs.
Here are some images from these apps (hopefully the app creators won't mind promotion)
Oct-Aid
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FWIW everyone - I've switched from Agile (which I loved) to Tracker and found it even cheaper. I was just getting bored of 40p+ at dinner time when needed oven often etc. Could move washing etc but cooking was tough. See below...
What app is that sam ?- Bulb customers still not able to move to Octopus?
Was told No,no,no when I rang couple months back
I was moved automatically about a month ago and onto the tracker tariff. 
It's the standing charge that gets me most.
That will be constant on this deal but like every other energy deal since about 2008, hard to pin down.
Just one reason I won't be getting a smart meter; the efficient scrooge's always pay disproportionately more.
Do you not pay a standing charge on your dumb meters?
When I had my dumb meters swapped out, the standing charge stayed the same. The only thing that changed was I was now able to go on to the Octopus tracker and enjoy prices less than half of the Government imposed price cap. As far as I know, customers with dumb meters can't gain access to lower tariffs.
I realise there are some downsides to smart meters in certain situations, but very few. Everyone will be forced on to them at some point, as you will find dumb meter customers will most likely face different rates in the future. It's already happening, here. (edited)
I still laugh when firms tout that you are on a 100% green tariff yet it’s still based on the price of a fossil fuel.
Just to say I've had this tariff for around 3 months, saving on average anywhere between 20 and 50% per day (depending on wholesale prices) of the price I would have paid for electric on a normal tariff. It's great. Combine with Octopus watch app to check prices and monitor savings and it's great.
Is it still correct that it's rolling contract sort of, that you can opt out of?- Without the adoption of Smart Meters, the UK may well have to build more power stations. Given that it takes at least 10 years before they can produce power and the cost is truely eye-watering, it's far cheaper for the consumer to have a smart Meter than it is to pay (via taxation) for a power station to be built.
Once you have a Smart Meter you can access energy rates that make it cheaper for you to use your high-energy appliances, such as your dishwasher during off-peak hours and it's this 'load shifting' means that we don't need to build additional power stations.
Despite everyone now owning more electrical devices than ever before AND electric cars, we use less electricity now than we did when every house had incandescent light bulbs.
That's how significant the switch to low-energy light bulbs has actually been. Smart meters are just the next step.
UK energy consumption since 1970
It was never a good idea to shut them down in my opinion. My ex has plenty to say on the subject as he worked in the industry for 50 years 
9.5p between 00:30 - 04:30 on my Octopus Go may still be cheaper when we set our wash and dish also to run at those times.
Good point. If you can set energy consuming devices to turn on during those hours, it works really well. We are just about to change to Intelligent Octopus as we are getting an EV, works the same. Working out how to make the most of it like you- I have an EV but no solar panels or battery. Am I better off on Octopus Go (cheaper between 11.30-4.30am)or Agile?
Octopus Intelligent is better than Go if you have an EV 
2 week wait for appointment to install Octopus Smart meter which was fitted yesterday took about 1.5hrs, engineer was very informative and explained it all clearly.
Electricity data was coming through within an hour and 24hrs later full data for gas and electric coming through and also via my octopus app. I can decide later if I want to go on a different tariff.
No more bending over in the cubby hole or going outside to read my gas meter in all weathers lol.
Thanks to OP and those who gave lots of information which helped change my mind. (edited)
Rates out for tomorrow. Minus figures?!
Does that mean we get paid?!
Madnessoctopus.energy/agile/
Across the UK, whenever more electricity is generated than consumed, energy prices fall – very occasionally, to the point where prices drop below zero.
Agile Octopus introduces Plunge Pricing – a world first that lets you take advantage of these negative price events, and get paid for the electricity you use. You'll receive alerts whenever prices drop below zero, and you can use our Agile API to program your smart devices.
energy-stats.uk/agi…es/ (edited)- With luck, on July 1st, we'll be transferring from EDF over to Octopus Flux. The major driving force for us is the price we'll get for our solar exports (right now averaging 13.1 kWh/day). Currently it's a miserly 5.6p/kWh with EDF. With Flux, it's 22.52p/kWh for most of the day but this rises to a whopping 35.93p/kWh between 16:00 & 19:00 (ie peak demand time). If I've done my sums correctly, this simple tariff shift will be worth around £470/year to us. (edited)Wow that's a huge difference on the exports! We have leased solar panels so unfortunately can't make use of that but really useful info for those that can.
Was automatically switched over from Bulb at end of April. Electricity cost reduced from £150 to £70 in the first month using Agile. This month forecast to reduce the cost further to around £55. Use Octo-Aid app alongside Octopus’ own app to monitor. I didn’t even know I had a smart meter so worth checking even if you think you don’t have one. This afternoons unit cost is into single figures for a couple of hours, if you can shift your usage there is serious money to be saved on Agile. (edited)
Can anyone guide me as to how to change the plan we're on. Their website seems to have no facility for this. Thanks in advance
When I decided to change to their tracker I had similar problems, but to be fair once I emailed them they switched me over easily so their customer services are pretty good via email.
Im being switched to tracker on 1st july, could i switch to this until then or would i be tied in ?AuthorYou can’t switch from one smart tariff to another within 30 days. Stick with your wait!
I've switched from Octopus Intelligent to Octopus Agile because I only charge my car on average once per week. I'm saving about 30% and I'm saving about 50% compared to the standard variable.
I have one word of advice to EVERYONE considering this tariff. Agile prices can vary significantly. Typically it's very cheap in Spring/Summer as more renewables come into play and the price decreases. However, come Winter time it can get very pricey.
I was on Agile a couple of years ago, then switched to Octopus Go because it was becoming crazily expensive. I then went to Intelligent as I had a qualifying car and now I'm back on Agile. The lesson is: keep an eye on costs and don't always assume Agile is super-cheap. Also, grab the Octopus Watch app to see when electricity is cheapest for car charging/dishwasher/washing machine/other high consumption devices. And maybe join an Octopus smart tariff Facebook group to keep on top of the news.
How do you actually sign up? I'm already with Octopus. I've ticked a button and hit some other buttons but it's like I've registered interest as a new customer, bizarre
That was the same for me. Then got an email the next day (today) asking me to agree to Ts&Cs.
I did, and it changed almost instantly.
They billed me for electric up to yesterday, which I guess is expected.- Is there a better app to track prices than Octopus Watch? They want £2 to buy that app that does nothing my free Shell app couldn't and then £1.50 per month to unlock features.. (edited)Try Octopus Compare which has a free version.
I’m at work again!!! Have offered the neighbour to charge their car at mine. Seems a shame to waste free electricity
I run or monitor 4 accounts for friends and family, all of whom are not "with it" when it comes to checking the market place and getting deals. Each of these accounts was preregistered with Octopus to change to the Tracker tariff on 01 July, with confirmation emails of guarantee received.
Well the day has arrived, I have checked the accounts, all of which are still on Flexible, and in the "Change my tariff" option, the only choice is a fixed tariff or the current flexible.
Has anyone had their registration honoured? I am going to look a right idiot for getting everyone to change. Yes we had/will receive our £50, but when I have hyped up the 14p rate for today, I feel a bit deflated.I have had a reply. So we are to be left in the lurch for up to 5 days, and it is our obligation to check emails, and even then we have a limited time.
They are however, quick to reply on Twitter, which is nice.
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(My message) We were promised that Tracker would go live today for those preregistered, but I have checked all the accounts I have set up for friends and family, and despite getting confirmation emails of acceptance, the only options on the "change my tariff" are the current Flexible or fixed rate. I feel like an idiot for hyping the tariff and company when nothing comes of it.
(Octopus) If you signed up to our waitlist, and you have a working smart meter which we're connected to, you will get an email asking you to fill in another type form stating which fuel you want on Tracker and asking you to sign T&Cs. This will need to be filled out by July 6th at midnight, then your tariff will officially move to Tracker on July 7th. Your charges will be backdated to the 1st, so it will be like you were on tracker from the 1st.If you don't have a smart meter you will be asked to register your interest and once this is installed and we're all connected you'll be able to apply for Tracker on our website.If you're not yet an Octopus customer, you'll be switched over using our variable tariff. Once we're connected to a smart meter then you'll be able to apply for Tracker on our website.Thanks for your patience whilst we work through helping 50,000+ interested customers move over to Tracker.
I am wondering how much is the energy saving compared to the cheapest British gas deal available today? Thanks.I compared prices with Eon's flexible tariff for my decision (who I was with before) and I saw that I'd save more than a third on Octopus Tracker just for elec.
I imagine BG are similar, if not slightly more expensive.
This is on the basis that Eon's flex tariff is now 30ppkwh.
With Octopus Tracker being well under 20ppkwh most days (usually a few pence cheaper - e.g. screenshot attached).
In case you're not sure what I mean by ppkwh, that's 1000W of elec for an hour.
For reference, your kettle is likely 2000W and your oven 3000W, etc.
Gas is similarly cheaper too. So a no brainer imo. We just need to be aware this might change come a cold winter.
Hope that helps
