LAP LED PIR Floodlights (Black or White) - 10W £6.49 / 20W £8.99 / 30W 10.74 / 50W £13.49 (free click & collect) @ Screwfix

Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you may find they will fail.

Pricklerickle23/07/2021 12:33

wanna replace my old one but screws so rusty it's not moving,I tried ub 40

Not sure music of UB40 works on rusty screws, or are you using red red wine?

Goldtw23/07/2021 07:27

Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you …Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you may find they will fail.Read lessRead more

Yeah, I noted that also.

What I do with these, seems to help, is to run a bead of Silicone sealant around the whole edge of light housing, you often see where it is joined. Another bit of silicone where the round cable would enter and finally consider another small bead around the edge of the PIR sensor.
Might seem excessive, but it doesn't take long.
Not doing the above to one of these IP44 rated lights and after about a year or so one of them had a small puddle of water within the light that you could see, and yes it had stopped working.
The law of sod made sure that was the only one where I couldn't find the receipt or any proof of purchase.

Seemed to have been the only one I must have paid for by cash as well, otherwise it would have been listed within my account at Screwfix - altho order info is only retained by them for 12 months.

good deal heat added, and with a bit of work the yare worth having. (edited)

Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and connected to the mains? Sorry for my lack of electrical knowledge. 😁

Turner85523/07/2021 07:26

How do the wattage ratings on these compare to the old high wattage ones? …How do the wattage ratings on these compare to the old high wattage ones? Need to replace 2 old ones which I think may be 500w and 250w.Read lessRead more

LED has similar output in lumens to 9x halogen e.g. 50W LED = 450W halogen.

Turner85523/07/2021 12:44

Not sure music of UB40 works on rusty screws, or are you using red red …Not sure music of UB40 works on rusty screws, or are you using red red wine? Read lessRead more

There's a rat in my kitchen....

alwayslfc23/07/2021 07:10

Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and …Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and connected to the mains? Sorry for my lack of electrical knowledge. 😁Read lessRead more

Yes

Goldtw23/07/2021 07:27

Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you …Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you may find they will fail.Read lessRead more

Correction. They do fail. Twice for me. On reality I just need to seal them better, it's on me as these don't claim to be any higher rated. Voted hot as they are good lights all in all.

VimesUK23/07/2021 08:28

Yeah, I noted that also.What I do with these, seems to help, is to run a …Yeah, I noted that also.What I do with these, seems to help, is to run a bead of Silicone sealant around the whole edge of light housing, you often see where it is joined. Another bit of silicone where the round cable would enter and finally consider another small bead around the edge of the PIR sensor.Might seem excessive, but it doesn't take long.Not doing the above to one of these IP44 rated lights and after about a year or so one of them had a small puddle of water within the light that you could see, and yes it had stopped working.The law of sod made sure that was the only one where I couldn't find the receipt or any proof of purchase.Seemed to have been the only one I must have paid for by cash as well, otherwise it would have been listed within my account at Screwfix - altho order info is only retained by them for 12 months.good deal heat added, and with a bit of work the yare worth having.Read lessRead more

I sometimes open up PIRs and apply silicone grease to the seals.

I wouldn't run a sealant right across the bottom, if you seal them it is best to leave somewhere for any water that does get in to drain out, and some IP44 stuff has drainage holes for that purpose and probably also to let the air pressure equalise when the fitting heats up and cools, so it doesn't suck in rain water with the air. (edited)

Just called and collected mine and also noted that they have their NON PIR type in half price sale. Paid less than £10 for a 30w one with an IP65 rating.....
(edited)

alwayslfc23/07/2021 07:10

Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and …Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and connected to the mains? Sorry for my lack of electrical knowledge. 😁Read lessRead more

Technically yes, but sometimes it's worth paying just to have someone else to blame to the insurance company.

There is no issue running these into the house and sticking a 3 pin plug onto the other end. Just put a 3 amp fuse in the plug. Not sure what people are on about getting an electrician. If you want to create a fused spur of a ring main and you are not competent then fair enough but, if you cannot wire a plug then your masculinity must be brought into question. (edited)

Pretty high failure rates with lap security lighting.
Decent warranty will soon get them swapped though.

alwayslfc23/07/2021 07:10

Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and …Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and connected to the mains? Sorry for my lack of electrical knowledge. 😁Read lessRead more

Ive had mine connected like this for years. It's handy to be able to switch off if don't want it constantly coming on at times.

alwayslfc23/07/2021 07:10

Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and …Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and connected to the mains? Sorry for my lack of electrical knowledge. 😁Read lessRead more

Yes it Will work but, I'm sure a electrician will come on here and tell you it's not allowed.

Thanks for posting! Ordered 8

How do the wattage ratings on these compare to the old high wattage ones? Need to replace 2 old ones which I think may be 500w and 250w.

Turner85523/07/2021 07:26

How do the wattage ratings on these compare to the old high wattage ones? …How do the wattage ratings on these compare to the old high wattage ones? Need to replace 2 old ones which I think may be 500w and 250w.Read lessRead more

I think is 500w is equivalent to 50w

Goldtw23/07/2021 07:27

Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you …Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you may find they will fail.Read lessRead more

I've had the black 20W one of these fitted for 4 years now, still going strong. It is under the soffit boards on the garage, so semi sheltered.

I've had no issues with LAP gear somethings it get a bad write up.
I've both 10w & 2w units up for a good gew years. The 20w above is a good unit and with the pir movable as above is better than the face mounted versions i have.

I have a few of these , first batch all failed at different times in first 12months , think one had a blown led and the other the sensor stopped working... easily replaced under warranty. 2nd batch all ok so far . Connector on the back can be abit fiddly when you're up in the air trying to fit it. For the price & warranty decent enough

It was pir sensor that got filled with water not with this model but from CPC after about a month and so wouldn't turn off. Now replaced with solar lights which are IP67 rated, well I live in Wales

Blasphemous23/07/2021 12:15

Do you have a link to the Amazon one you got please?

It was this one. Had good reviews and 10% off. But I don't think it has the PIR overide.

amazon.co.uk/gp/…c=1

Turner85523/07/2021 07:26

How do the wattage ratings on these compare to the old high wattage ones? …How do the wattage ratings on these compare to the old high wattage ones? Need to replace 2 old ones which I think may be 500w and 250w.Read lessRead more

I replaced a 500w halogen one with the 50w model last year and it has pretty similar output

alwayslfc23/07/2021 07:10

Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and …Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and connected to the mains? Sorry for my lack of electrical knowledge. 😁Read lessRead more

No, they have to be hard wired in sorry bud

Goldtw23/07/2021 07:27

Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you …Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you may find they will fail.Read lessRead more

I do agree a higher IP raring certainly of the second number quoted would give greater protection to the elements however IP44 is a lot more sturdy than you think and you might get a good while from there lights before they actually perish. take a look at this:
IP44 is generally OK for common garden use and standard weather. ... These are specifically made to be very hard wearing against weather and are also rust and corrosion free.

I have bought 5 of these. All of them were faulty and had to be returned. I will never buy this brand again.

Phantom23/07/2021 14:25

I have bought 5 of these. All of them were faulty and had to be returned. …I have bought 5 of these. All of them were faulty and had to be returned. I will never buy this brand again.Read lessRead more

What was wrong with them?

deleted240532423/07/2021 12:45

There's a rat in my kitchen....

I'm gonna fix that rat that's what I'm gonna do

Star123423/07/2021 16:28

I'm gonna fix that rat that's what I'm gonna do

hahahaha

deleted240532423/07/2021 16:28

hahahaha

Lol it's going to be in my head all day now

deleted240532423/07/2021 12:36

Yes these are amazing, and better for the environment too as they are …Yes these are amazing, and better for the environment too as they are using 1/10 of the power of old lights too!Read lessRead more

Thought that as well and replaced 2 10 yr old halogen ones with LEDs. Which I've already had to replace over 2 years..Keeping the old one's probably would have worked out betterfor the environment.

Turner85523/07/2021 12:44

Not sure music of UB40 works on rusty screws, or are you using red red …Not sure music of UB40 works on rusty screws, or are you using red red wine? Read lessRead more

Only 1 in 10 are not rusty.

Goldtw23/07/2021 07:27

Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you …Note those are only IP44 rated so if outside in area direct to weather you may find they will fail.Read lessRead more

Just sent two back today full of water only after 3 months.

sandstone123/07/2021 17:15

Thought that as well and replaced 2 10 yr old halogen ones with LEDs. …Thought that as well and replaced 2 10 yr old halogen ones with LEDs. Which I've already had to replace over 2 years..Keeping the old one's probably would have worked out betterfor the environment.Read lessRead more

Absolutely correct.

I must have replaced each led PIR unit at least 6 times, in the space that my one remaining halogen unit hasn't failed.

We used to have a halogen unit that lasted well over 20 years, only replaced it due to the bulb going.

There's been at least five led units in it's place and even the latest one has failed.

I've also used led PIR units inside the shed to come on automatically, even those can fail.

Had one of the lap 50w units and it was like daylight in the garden, was really impressed with it but it didn't even last longer than two months, gutted!

I have one of those Spear & Jackson (Home Bargains) solar led PIR lights in one of my sheds. It's been brilliant for well over a year

Put one in my son's play shed and I've been through three of them in the space of about six months! (edited)

Bought one 20w today, very impressed with cool and bright light. very easy fixing and wiring. My only concern is rain, I hope it will last long. (edited)

ruheluddin8624/07/2021 00:15

Can I connect this to a socket or does it need a junction box etc?

Without being harsh, if you're asking the question don't even think about it. Get an electrician to fit it, saving killing you or someone else.

alwayslfc23/07/2021 07:10

Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and …Not an electrician, but can these just have a 3 pin plug fitted and connected to the mains? Sorry for my lack of electrical knowledge. 😁Read lessRead more

Yes you can

ruheluddin8624/07/2021 14:48

Once these stop working due to the bulb can it be replaced or does the …Once these stop working due to the bulb can it be replaced or does the whole unit need replacing?Read lessRead more

These are not designed to be serviceable, there's no bulb as such, however if you can solder you may be able to dismantle them and replace the faulty component. Whether that is worth doing...

The LEDs are usually highly reliable, if some of the LEDs fail that's usually a sign that they were either being overdriven, or the thermal contact with the heatsink (case) wasn't adequate.

Usually its the driver that fails, or else the electronics in the PIR (some floodlights may use mains voltage LEDs which have the driver integrated into the COB led package).

I repaired the PIR floodlight I have out the front, the driver had failed, cost me about £3. It worked for about a year after that then the PIR packed up, so it is currently wired with the PIR bypassed to be turned on or off from the light switch. (edited)

ruheluddin8624/07/2021 14:46

It’s a simple question just like alwayslfc asked. I ask re the junction b …It’s a simple question just like alwayslfc asked. I ask re the junction box because externally high up on my wall the electrician has a box which then connects to the socket. However what I currently want to replace is directly connected to the socket, wasn’t sure if it’s due to being an led or not.Read lessRead more

I'm no electrician, but I can see no reason you shouldn't wire these up with a cable through the wall with a plug fitted. Don't directly hardwire it to the back of a socket, it needs a fuse.

The other option (my preferred) would be to wire it to a double pole switched fused connection unit, which will disconnect both the live and neutral when you switch it off, so if water gets in the floodlight, switching it off will isolate it so that it won't trip the RCD in the consumer unit. (If you still have a consumer unit without a RCD, you really should get it replaced).

Some PIR floodlights are supplied with a short length of flex, so they either have to be wired with a waterproof junction box on the wall or waterproof inline connector, or opened up to replace the cable, that's possibly why there's a junction box outside. (edited)