Posted 3 days ago

Another Vile American Import - Compulsory Tipping

telegraph.co.uk/mon…ts/

Where will this end?

I always thought this was discretionary, for "good service", and no more. How times are achanging !
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  1. Pogue's avatar
    52121633-ic3ps.jpgMr Pink doesn't tip!
  2. wpj's avatar
    I bought nuts from a UK website which wanted me to tip at checkout starting at 15%... Didn't and refused to buy from there again.
    AndyRoyd's avatar
    Completely nuts.
  3. a666andy's avatar
    In my opinion, tipping should be completely down to the customer, it should not be expected or begged for and should only be given in circumstances where someone has gone above and beyond or something like food or service has been exceptionally better than the paid price.

    Go to an expensive restaurant and pay a premium for the food, why pay a tip when all you got is what you paid for?

    A pub serving a pint of beer is just the bare minimum expected so why expect a tip.

    In all my years working (office work) despite going above and beyond to help people, I've never received a tip or expected one for doing my job so struggle to understand others that expect it for doing their paid job.

    I know America is different for servers that are paid a base salary and tips make up the rest of their pay (different to our minimum pay) but we don't operate like that here. (edited)
    MonkeysUncle's avatar
    Exactly this, plenty of jobs where you earn next to minimum wage and don't expect a tip.

    Why folks feel the need to tip someone for bringing some food to the table is beyond me. It's crazy.
  4. PeacePipe's avatar
    Pay the staff a decent wage and drop tipping all together.
    aLV426's avatar
    This has got to be the answer, however this is how it's done everywhere else in the world except America!
  5. tcf's avatar
    Wife and I were once chased outside a San Fran restaurant by the server, for not tipping. That was more memorable than the meal or the service. (edited)
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  6. Yolofknell's avatar
    I think consumers should start charging these places that ask for service charges and tips etc the cost of traveling and time taken. We should charge them 0.70p + per mile. When you book online by email, put in Terms and conditions that traveling costs to venue etc will be charged and removed from the bill.

    That would be fantastic if it actually could be feasible
  7. SaturdayGigs's avatar
    Usual click bait from the doom and gloom merchant (edited)
  8. jimhuf's avatar
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  9. Skrotzilla1's avatar
    Thats so unlike The Telegraph to be fearmongering, this is definitely not a distraction/defection from something else more important that might be happening right now that they really don't want to report on/are actively trying to suppress.
    Yep seems legit.
  10. chrb's avatar
    I booked a hotel via 3rd party website, and they asked me to tip them a few pounds as they got me the cheapest price! (edited)
  11. TristanDeCoonha's avatar
    You are already paying over the top in restaurants, with cover and service charges.
    If we refuse to pay them are we expected to stand in the corner and cook our own food?
  12. windym's avatar
    And in the article is says

    The extra charges, which can be removed upon request
    No one gets any money from me without me checking the bill first. So there is no excuse not to see it. Pay it if you want or remove it if you don't.
  13. aLV426's avatar
    For me a tip or a gratuity should be a discretionary bonus given by the customer, not a demand or a requirement. I used to socialise at least twice a week - the money I have saved since lock down is crazy! I don't intend to return to that money burning process especially when a good 15~35% was spent on tipping and/or "service charges"
  14. Turret-Buddy's avatar
    No one tips me for my hard work everyday, it's a no from me
  15. slimy31's avatar
    We've got a Cosmo restaurant near us, and a while back they added a 3% discretionary charge. It frustrates me because it's a buffet!! Yes there are still people bringing out the food to the hot plates, and also serving drinks. But as above the extra charge should be if someone goes above and beyond, and that's pretty much impossible on a buffet.

    I believe they also add a further 10% for parties of 12 or more. Again, that makes sense for a normal restaurant because it's a bit more effort to make sure everyone's food comes out on time. For a buffet that usually means I'm paying 10% for some of the tables to be pushed together.
  16. madoka_ayukawa's avatar
    What's the difference between service charge and a tip?
    Onlydongles's avatar
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    Its a tip by any other name, except that most of it goes to the boss !
  17. rayman1970's avatar
    I just ordered a car battery from ML Performance online and at checkout it asked me to tip to support the customer service staff. Seriously! It was online... There was zero customer service and therefore zero tip
  18. ASongOfIceandFire's avatar
    The thing is, it’s not so much a tip I have a problem with.
    I’ve been to USA and Canada and the service in every restaurant is unbelievable -they tip because they are paid low and rely on it -especially when we went.
    Over here *most* restaurants the staff are rude / don’t talk / moody / not interested and underperform so they don’t deserve tips.
    Even in KFC in states I was blown away they were so polite and then ask if you’d like red or white (Thigh/Drumsticks OR Breast) hell over here people are checking there buckets before they leave to see if the staff can count!
    Onlydongles's avatar
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    Mostly true. But some are too fake.

    Worst are the staff in McDonalds and Taco bell. Sooooooo dumb. They could not even fathom my request for a Burger without the meat (beef). COuld only relate to what was written on the wall menu (& going by the numbers).

    DO you want number 8 or number 10 ! Jobsworths galore.
  20. RoosterNo1's avatar
    I'm with Mr Orange.... I DONT TIP.

    The Americans started it because they didn't pay their waitress's a decent wage BECAUSE they were topped up at the table.
    We have a minimum wage, so no... Same with "service charge" NO
  21. dcx_badass's avatar
    It annoys me when uber eats want you to tip as you place the order, why would I tip for a service I've not even received yet. I've read in the US apps like doordash tell the driver the tipped amount before they accept so if you don't tip much they don't bother with your order so it's essentially turned into a bidding war of how much you want your food compared to someone else, it's mental.
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