Bought last week. It's ok for the price. Left it on Win 10 but surprisingly it can be upgraded to win 11 if you want to slow it down. Played some movies and browsed. All fine. Feels a bit dated and heavy but for the price you can't grumble.
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Refurbished HP STREAM 11 PRO (G5) Notebook PC - 11.6" Display - Intel Celeron N4120 1.1GHz CPU - 62GB HDD - 4GB RAM - B Grade - Windows 10 Home Installed
Specifications:
Grade: B
Brand & Model: Hp Stream 11 Pro (G5)
Screen: 11.6"
CPU: Intel Celeron N4120- 1.1GHz
Memory: 4GB
Hard Drive: 62GB HDD
Optical: / No Optical
Graphics: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 605
Keyboard Type: QWERTY UK
Webcam: No
USB Ports: 2
Ethernet: None
OS Installed: Windows 10 Home
Warranty: 12 Months
Refurbished HP STREAM 11 PRO (G5) Notebook PC - 11.6" Display - Intel Celeron N4120 1.1GHz CPU - 62GB HDD - 4GB RAM - B Grade - Windows 10 Home Installed
Specifications:
Grade: B
Brand & Model: Hp Stream 11 Pro (G5)
Screen: 11.6"
CPU: Intel Celeron N4120- 1.1GHz
Memory: 4GB
Hard Drive: 62GB HDD
Optical: / No Optical
Graphics: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 605
Keyboard Type: QWERTY UK
Webcam: No
USB Ports: 2
Ethernet: None
OS Installed: Windows 10 Home
Warranty: 12 Months
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Edited by a community support team member, 24 July 2023
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sorted by- As expected. Wonder if Chrome OS Flex works well on it as that would be ideal for the spec. Seems like a nice carry-around or casual use system.
- I have a GeoBook 1 and it's spec is worse than this. However, MX Linux or ChromeOS Flex makes it useable in my grab bag for development on the go, etc. As a main machine, not a chance.
- These were woefully slow brand new, can't imagine what these are like now.
Speaking from experience , i bought the kids these when they were at school.Exactly.
The type of laptop people refer to when they say "I got an mac because windows laptops are rubbish". - If HDD can be upgraded to SSD and ram to 8GB it's a cracking dealNeither can be, stuck with what you get.
- From what I can see the RAM is soldiered onto the motherboard, along with the internal eMMC storage as well.
However, the official HP Specs show that it does have 1 x M2 Slot for WLAN, so potentially it might support an SSD at expense of losing the internal WiFi Card but I can't see any documentation to show anybody doing this.
HP Stream 11 Pro G5 Notebook PC Specifications | HP® Customer Support
HP Stream 11 Pro G5 Notebook PC Software and Driver Downloads | HP® Customer Support
Removing & Replacing Parts | HP Stream 11 Pro G5 | HP Computer Service | @HPSupport - YouTube
EDIT - Note that according to HP, its meant to have a MicroSD Card Reader on the right-hand side of the laptop - if you can get a cheap 128GB/256GB MicroSDXC Card, at least you'd have cheap additional storage.
HP Stream 11 Pro G5 Notebook PC - Components | HP® Customer Support - Shows the various ports on the laptop, etc.
BTW this laptop's CPU is supported for Windows 10 LTSC (this is what W10 should have been from the very start!) as well, but also it's showing as being supported for Linux Distributions as well.
Windows Processor Requirements Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 Supported Intel Processors | Microsoft Learn
Hardware for Linux - Intel Celeron N4120 CPU @ 1.10GHz
With regards to Linux OS installations, there are a number of smaller distributions out there that could be used - you can check out DistroWatch, but there's more main stream ones that could be looked as well; one I've used, for low-end spec computers has been MX Linux.
As mentioned earlier by another member, it should be a candidate for getting Chrome OS installed onto it as well, but you might want to research that first, and ensure you back up the Windows 10 Home OS first, before installing it. (edited)I've put Kubuntu on weaker machines than this. Depends on your functionality/performance ratio.
Frankly if you don't have Linux experience I would start with Linux Mint as it's probably the easiest transition from Windows and don't worry about performance until it becomes an issue. Just keep away from video editing ;-) - Received mine today, it does only have the N4000 processor and not the N4100 as stated in the email, but then the email stated the N4100 is dual core which isn't correct anyway!
The main issue though is that after connecting to my WiFi it just sits on a screen for 5min saying 'Checking the connection to Microsoft' before eventually going back to the WiFi selection screen, so I think I'm going to have to return it! 😔 (edited)Reply from customer services:
Good Morning,
I have been informed that there was a typing error on the original message and the HP Stream 11 PRO laptops all have an
Intel Celeron N4000 dual core processor installed.
We have been made aware of the issues with connecting over Wi Fi on the HP Stream 11 Pro laptops and are working to find a resolution.
But so far have not identified a fix that can be sent to customers.
The problem is affecting a portion of our stock, which we are reauditing to identify working devices. This is being actioned now and expected to take the rest of the day to be completed.
Once we have working devices, we will be able to offer the option to receive a replacement unit which will have an Intel Celeron N4000 dual core processor or to return for refund.
If you need a resolution today our only option is to open a return for refund. Please let us know and the returns procedure will be sent to you.
Please accept our apologies for the delay, it is the first time we have encountered a problem of this nature and are making every effort to provide a speedy resolution. (edited) - 1.1ghz 😬😬😬😬
Grade B 😬😬😬😬
Voting hot for why nots.Grade B Isn't an issue with ITzoo, we've bought a few grade B laptops from there and they've all been in decent condition, as for the laptop's actual specs I'm not so sure about lol - Snapdragon 685!!!!
- So long as it's backed by an SSD, Win10 on 4GB is okay.
Likewise the N4120 is okay for basic computing.
What kills it is the storage; Win10 on 64GB (of eMMC) is a really tedious experience - and supplementing it with USB or SD flash isn't much better.
If the machine has an m.2 slot, and can take a SATA or NVMe SSD then the machine has some value.
However as-is it's a firm 'meh' from me; the Lenovo Tablet 10's that ITZOO had last year (e.g.) were significantly better spec than this and for pretty much the same price.Agree with that, I had the Lenovo Tablet 10 and they were better value on paper (horrid 2015-sized bezels though!). For cheap computing with a built-in keyboard though, it's not bad. - Doesn't seem too bad for entry level spec with no upgrade path. The N4120 wasn't released until 2019 and is still used in entry level laptops today. In fact there seems to be a version of it with Windows 11S and a basic integral webcam on various retail sites for around £150-200. As long as you set your expectations low and perhaps make use of bloatware removal software it should be a fully usable laptop. Not sure what level of game it will play up to. Maybe Fallout 4 with a very low resolution and low detail levels? As for emulation maybe up wii/ps2 at full speed?
- - According to the HP Specs Page, the WiFi Card is an Intel Dual band Wireless-AC 9560 802.11a/b/g/n/ac (2x2) Wi-Fi with Bluetooth 5 Combo (non-vPro).
A quick search online, is showing that's an M.2 2230 (Intel Specs), in case you do end up trying to find a compatible SSD to test out that slot with. - Will this be ok for Chrome, Teams, Word and Powerpoint? They’re the only apps my lad tends to use for his school work.Ye it will just about get by with those.
- Not bad. Initially had 11 on it, reinstalled 10, seemed a fair bit nippier.
Absolutely fine for what it's needed for. Young lad has discovered he can stream my Game Pass account over Chrome, it's actually fantastic for gaming that way! So maybe that's another route to a more aesthetically pleasing Fallout 4?
He has it connected up to a 1080p monitor so looks fantastic. (edited)I've been offered a replacement with Windows 11 installed on it. Think I'm going to put Windows 10 on it from the comments. What's the easiest way to down grade to Windows 10? - Saw this the other night but couldn’t figure out if it’s a ‘good deal’. At least the CPU is a quad-core Celeron but it’s going to be a bit sluggish these days. The main draw is the super low cost to get into computing - it might be ideal so people don’t have to share systems if it’s just for light browsing, media, productivity, etc.
As below, Chrome OS Flex could be a faster option? - Ordered. Still not sure why... this page will ruin me one dayMe too!
- Chances are high you'll get inpatient quick and look to buy something faster than this, might as well opt for that option now.
- It gets worse and worse, not even the N4100 but actually the N4000. They made another mistake.If so, big performance drop, 4100 is usable, 4000 is toilet
- At this price I’d argue an unbeatable package. Semi acceptable performance + battery life owing to the super low power CPU. Not bad for under £50!does it have a (albeit low quality) webcam built in?
- Hmm, bit of a doorstop with this specHardly
- Great as a PowerPoint machine for business users.I have a Lenovo equivalent, but with then even smaller 32GB SSD that I bought as a spare a few years back, after buying one for something small & light for my granddaughter to take on the train to college. I had to run a pub quiz on PP last week & my proper laptop doesn't have HDMI, & I couldn't find my USB adapter. Dusted this off for the first time in well over a year, ran updates via a USB drive & it sailed through the evening.
- Getting rid of Windows and installing a lightweight Linux distro would give it a supercharge !yeah was thinking the same. could be a nice little dev machine
- i think putting ubuntu or linux mint etc on this would make it much more usable
- I'd be tempted to purchase one of them for myself, but this would be for use when I'm travelling with work or on holiday, so if it gets damaged or lost it's a small financial hit.
- Cheaper than rpi and has a screen …
- Took the plunge and ordered as a backup device . All my documents are backed up to a portable SSD drive so no problems with storage . Will install a Linux OS as I gave up on Microsoft years ago . Can connect to Ethernet via USB adaptor so will explore whether MS slot can support a SSD . If not no real problem .
- Tempted as a raspberry PI replacement, comes with a 'UPS', screen and keyboard.. Shame about the none upgradeable ram/storage though
- I'm unsure about cancelling. I would have preferred a good will gesture like an extra fiver off personally. Looking at the N4000 vs the N4120 it looks like single core performance is the same but multi-core is between 60-80% better on the N4120. It's the same 14Nm fabrication process for both. There is a 50mhz extra boost for the GPU on the N4120.
If you were running a single core application like perhaps an emulator you wouldn't really notice much difference between them.With a dual-core you're much more susceptible to background tasks interrupting your main application. - As standard it comes with one but I don't know if these ex corporate ones have the webcam blanked out hence why I was asking the chap who bought one @JDUK2020 (edited)
- don’t think delivery is free at this price pointIt is.
- its the 4gb that kills thisNot really, I've a 13 year old Lenovo with 4GB RAM. Windows 10 was taking up to 10 mins to boot up and updates could take all day or would fail. The issue was the HDD. For not much money I replaced that with an SSD and ever since it's been acceptable performer. Due to the way Lenovos used to be built, swapping the drive was a doddle. The real question is, how easy would it be to swap out this HP's hard drive?
Edit: Just checked and the HDD is soldered in. This explains the low price tag. (edited) - 62GB HDD kills it more like
- Wonder if this could be made into a half-decent Plex server - considering how lean the CPU runs. Don't know if 4 GB of RAM and eMMC storage would kill it in its tracks though?Was wondering the same.
Anyone know if this would work in a plex debrid setup? I know it works in the Raspberry pi, so would this processor be ok? - Perfect as a "nerd machine" for doing maker stuff. Arduino, pi, etc.
Something that when it blows up, you are not as unhappy as frying your proper laptop. - Could this run ChromeOS?Yes to ChromeOS Flex... see above
- Passmark of 2548, that's really not bad at all. Tempted to get one to take out with my amateur radio equipment when I'm working portable/SOTA.Get an old Toughbook, it will cost more but they have the cool factor too!
- This really doesn't cut it as a Windows machine. You will be continually be banging against the 4GB/62GB constraints.
Whereas a Linux Netbook it will fly. 4GB is no problem and most distros won't take much disk and updating also isn't an issue. Chromium derivative or Firefox, LibreOffice and Thunderbird will answer most immediate needs and the greater networking capabilities will work well with cloud/remote server access.
More than a bargain. If I hadn't bought a ThinkPad X270 I'd be all over this.Bother - it was just too good. Ordered. - Can you put SSD inside and add more ram?Nope, sorry.
- Possible to use this as a substitute raspberry pi with Linux. Yeah, I know it is different/bulkier, but I imagine the power consumption isn't wildly different, so...?I don't see why not - according to the HP Specs (URL Link) it does have the following USB Ports in place, if you want to connect it to external USB storage and/or connect it to a USB hub for device expansion instead.
1 x USB 2.0 Port
1 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 Port
Unfortunately there's not much information on power, but HP does state it comes with a 45w Mains Power Adapter, and the Battery is 2-Cell, 37.69 Wh - Intel also lists power usage between 4.8 W to 6 W for the CPU as well (URL Link).
There might be other websites with further technical details regarding power usage, that you could check out further. - Has this got a Web camera?Yes - it's listed in the HP Specs (URL Link) as being the following.
VGA camera
Indicator LED, USB 2.0
640 x 480 by 24 frames per second
Sold separately or as an optional feature
However, the official HP Specs show that it does have 1 x M2 Slot for WLAN, so potentially it might support an SSD at expense of losing the internal WiFi Card but I can't see any documentation to show anybody doing this.
HP Stream 11 Pro G5 Notebook PC Specifications | HP® Customer Support
HP Stream 11 Pro G5 Notebook PC Software and Driver Downloads | HP® Customer Support
Removing & Replacing Parts | HP Stream 11 Pro G5 | HP Computer Service | @HPSupport - YouTube
EDIT - Note that according to HP, its meant to have a MicroSD Card Reader on the right-hand side of the laptop - if you can get a cheap 128GB/256GB MicroSDXC Card, at least you'd have cheap additional storage.
HP Stream 11 Pro G5 Notebook PC - Components | HP® Customer Support - Shows the various ports on the laptop, etc.
BTW this laptop's CPU is supported for Windows 10 LTSC (this is what W10 should have been from the very start!) as well, but also it's showing as being supported for Linux Distributions as well.
Windows Processor Requirements Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 Supported Intel Processors | Microsoft Learn
Hardware for Linux - Intel Celeron N4120 CPU @ 1.10GHz
With regards to Linux OS installations, there are a number of smaller distributions out there that could be used - you can check out DistroWatch, but there's more main stream ones that could be looked as well; one I've used, for low-end spec computers has been MX Linux.
As mentioned earlier by another member, it should be a candidate for getting Chrome OS installed onto it as well, but you might want to research that first, and ensure you back up the Windows 10 Home OS first, before installing it.
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