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Microsoft Surface Laptop 4, AMD Ryzen 5 Processor, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, 13.5" PixelSense Display, Platinum £599 at John Lewis

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  1. spinach_pie's avatar
    skinrush17/12/2021 11:50

    Sort of. I think if your ssd storage needs are that basic, you’d get away w …Sort of. I think if your ssd storage needs are that basic, you’d get away with a much cheaper laptop. And if you’re all about the cloud storage, better off with a chromebook.


    Depends again. You can find a cheaper laptop, but some want a premium, well built laptop, with great ergonomics, aspect ratio, screen resolution, ir camera for facial login etc etc.
  2. r1mmm3r's avatar
    Big fan of this and voted hot.
    Personally for me a Windows machine needs a bit more RAM and SDD. But for a decent home laptop for general home stuff, this is a great buy. (edited)
  3. alexandertwilson's avatar
    This seems like a steal, had my SL3 for two odd years and love it

    As for 'is 128GB' enough it's been fine for me; store files etc on OneDrive, normally have around 60gb space. Cloud gaming on Gamepass also helps if want to play something
  4. Msic's avatar
    The Ryzen CPU in this is one of the good ones:
    amd.com/en/…ion
    Combine that with the good build quality and great screen, and this will be a great device for people who use cloud-storage, or dont want / need to save anything locally.

    Be aware, these are all-but impossible to repair though, so have it insured or dont break it!
  5. Msic's avatar
    deleted16704417/12/2021 13:32

    I don't think that is really true any moreMicrosoft teams up with iFixit …I don't think that is really true any moreMicrosoft teams up with iFixit to bring official repairability tools to independent repairers | Windows Central


    Making these devices more repairable is admirable; but a number of companies are announcing this stuff just for PR rather than doing anything meaningful. Ive tried to repair various Surface devices in the past, and almost destroyed them trying to get in before giving up.

    I would love to be proven wrong on this, but looking at the link you posted, the only part that this particular Surface Laptop 4 is listed as allowing is the battery cover. However, i'd rather lose this argument and customers have a more accessible/repairable laptop.... (edited)
  6. Guess_What's avatar
    Same price at Microsoft store currently
  7. throwawaysociety's avatar
    Why are Microsoft hampering themselves with ridiculous SSD sizes?! it makes no sense
  8. Srelapse's avatar
    throwawaysociety17/12/2021 11:14

    Why are Microsoft hampering themselves with ridiculous SSD sizes?! it …Why are Microsoft hampering themselves with ridiculous SSD sizes?! it makes no sense


    Thankfully it is upgradeable.
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    Alternative methodology for storage expansion:
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    yam_yam17/12/2021 14:13

    Does this come with a pen?


    No, but it works with any Microsoft pen (or your finger)
  11. Mateusz_Szmagaj's avatar
    Is 128 GB enough these days ?
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    Mateusz_Szmagaj17/12/2021 11:11

    Is 128 GB enough these days ?


    Very easy to upgrade the SSD in these laptops - I then bought a cheap USB adapter /enclosure for my old 128GB drive and have ended up saving even more (You would pay way over the odds if you didn;t do the upgrade yourself, or if you bought a larger SSD on day 1 - ridiculous I know, but that is thee world we live in) (edited)
  13. skinrush's avatar
    spinach_pie17/12/2021 11:14

    Yes, depending on the person using the laptop.


    Sort of. I think if your ssd storage needs are that basic, you’d get away with a much cheaper laptop.
    And if you’re all about the cloud storage, better off with a chromebook.
  14. gr8mlin's avatar
    thanks OP. Ordered one
  15. Mateusz_Szmagaj's avatar
    Is the RAM upgradable as well ?
  16. waysan's avatar
    alexandertwilson17/12/2021 12:24

    This seems like a steal, had my SL3 for two odd years and love itAs for …This seems like a steal, had my SL3 for two odd years and love itAs for 'is 128GB' enough it's been fine for me; store files etc on OneDrive, normally have around 60gb space. Cloud gaming on Gamepass also helps if want to play something


    Exactly! I've had my SL2 for 2 years and am now up to 90Gb of storage use. I don't want a cheap laptop (or Chromebook!) with poor screen/keyboard/touchpad/performance/form factor so I'm happy with 128Gb.

    That said, I do think it's bad that they can't run to 256Gb for a little more (currently £879 at JL ffs)
  17. deleted2663513's avatar
    waysan17/12/2021 12:54

    Exactly! I've had my SL2 for 2 years and am now up to 90Gb of storage use. …Exactly! I've had my SL2 for 2 years and am now up to 90Gb of storage use. I don't want a cheap laptop (or Chromebook!) with poor screen/keyboard/touchpad/performance/form factor so I'm happy with 128Gb.That said, I do think it's bad that they can't run to 256Gb for a little more (currently £879 at JL ffs)


    Not all CBs are made equal...you forgot in cons list, they usually top out at 128gb. This is a cracking deal, gorgeous thing...peer MBA is roughly £260 more on Amazon (edited)
  18. yam_yam's avatar
    Does this come with a pen?
  19. skinrush's avatar
    deleted16704417/12/2021 11:24

    Very easy to upgrade the SSD in these laptops - I then bought a cheap USB …Very easy to upgrade the SSD in these laptops - I then bought a cheap USB adapter /enclosure for my old 128GB drive and have ended up saving even more (You would pay way over the odds if you didn;t do the upgrade yourself, or if you bought a larger SSD on day 1 - ridiculous I know, but that is thee world we live in)


    The SSD is upgradable, but it doesn't look particularly easy from the YouTube videos I've seen, especially compared to products like Lenovo's Legion laptops.
    Also, MS are using m.2 2230 SSDs, which are quite a lot more expensive than the usual 'normal' nvme drives.
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    skinrush17/12/2021 14:28

    The SSD is upgradable, but it doesn't look particularly easy from the …The SSD is upgradable, but it doesn't look particularly easy from the YouTube videos I've seen


    I have done it and found it pretty easy - granted, not as easy as the Surface Pro X (which has a dedicated opening on the back!)
  21. skinrush's avatar
    deleted16704417/12/2021 14:38

    I have done it and found it pretty easy - granted, not as easy as the …I have done it and found it pretty easy - granted, not as easy as the Surface Pro X (which has a dedicated opening on the back!)


    Where did you aqcuire the SSD if you don't mind me asking? they don't seem widely available.
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    skinrush17/12/2021 14:42

    Where did you aqcuire the SSD if you don't mind me asking? they don't seem …Where did you aqcuire the SSD if you don't mind me asking? they don't seem widely available.


    I got mine of EBAY: m.2 2230 ssd. | eBay (edited)
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    waysan17/12/2021 15:14

    Thanks - tempting. And this …Thanks - tempting. And this (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284523881981?hash=item423ef1e5fd:g:EhcAAOSwUw5hi9Io) kind of proves my point about the price gouging - it's £34 for 256Gb!!!


    But the comparison of interest most is probably the cost of a DIY upgrade compared to the extra cost of buying it with the extra gb included at purchase time?
  24. skinrush's avatar
    deleted16704417/12/2021 14:43

    I got mine of EBAY: m.2 2230 ssd. | eBay


    Yeah, that’s my concern about an ‘easy’ upgrade. Eg, the ssd isn’t widely available or competitively priced, and opening up the machine is challenging.
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    skinrush17/12/2021 16:19

    Yeah, that’s my concern about an ‘easy’ upgrade. Eg, the ssd isn’t widely a …Yeah, that’s my concern about an ‘easy’ upgrade. Eg, the ssd isn’t widely available or competitively priced, and opening up the machine is challenging.


    You definitely should not try it if you don't have even a basic level of tech. diy skills - but even my Mum could do this upgrade I reckon :-)

    Worth noting that you should be able to double the memory on this laptop for around £30 and a little diy (edited)
  26. skinrush's avatar
    deleted16704417/12/2021 16:23

    You definitely should not try it if you don't have even a basic level of …You definitely should not try it if you don't have even a basic level of tech. diy skills - but even my Mum could do this upgrade I reckon :-)Worth noting that you should be able to double the memory on this laptop for around £30 and a little diy


    I don't really feel that I've not got the skills I've upgraded ram and ssd on several Legion 5 laptops. Looking at videos of the Surface Laptop, it looks easy to damage the rubber feet, getting to the screws, then maybe damaging the chassis prising it apart, and then you've got to be quite careful with the connecting trackpad/keyboard ribbon cable. After that, the SSD has to be removed from a plastic holder stuck with thermal paste.
    And 256gb isn't enough either. 512gb would be what I'm after, and that seems to be costly compared to a standard 1TB M2 nvme drive.
    Not trying to be unduly negative. Just pointing out that the upgrade isn't all that easy or cost effective, as you suggest.
  27. deleted167044's avatar
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    Just to be clear - the cost to purchase the laptop with 256GB (also through John Lewis) is an extra £260 (as compared to £30 if you feel up to DIY). That's not to say you need to upgrade at all - it wasn't long ago that 128GB was considered a dream specification for an SSD :-)
  28. skinrush's avatar
    deleted16704417/12/2021 17:39

    Just to be clear - the cost to purchase the laptop with 256GB (also …Just to be clear - the cost to purchase the laptop with 256GB (also through John Lewis) is an extra £260 (as compared to £30 if you feel up to DIY). That's not to say you need to upgrade at all - it wasn't long ago that 128GB was considered a dream specification for an SSD :-)


    When you changed the ssd, did you get the rubber feet off without damaging them, or were they glued on? Eg, did they go back on properly? (edited)
  29. R_XaaS_Don's avatar
    Bought as a Xmas present - good value for money , Ryzen 5 is actually pretty decent - arguable beats Intel Core i5 these days
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    skinrush18/12/2021 10:52

    When you changed the ssd, did you get the rubber feet off without damaging …When you changed the ssd, did you get the rubber feet off without damaging them, or were they glued on? Eg, did they go back on properly?


    Yes, but I did follow the guidance on youtube from someone who had already done it. (Front and Rear rubber feet are slightly different - check YouTube for the info)
  31. sputty's avatar
    Just spotted this has dropped to £599 at the same link (edited)
  32. deleted167044's avatar
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    sputty24/12/2021 12:30

    Just spotted this has dropped to £599 at the same link


    The deal that keeps giving! Happy Christmas!
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