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Posted 31 July 2023
Joie Every Stage 0+/1/2/3 Car Seat - ember
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Cheapest I have seen it. Seems to be a good car seat and can last the entire journey!
Added by @cyberbabenilorac
Key Features
4 seats in 1 - holds, hugs, adapts, and protects little ones all the way up, beginning as a rearward facing seat from birth to 18kg and converting to a forward facing seat from 9-36kg.
Transforms to fit - grows up and out simultaneously so as the headrest raises, the AutoAdjust™ sides expand to custom fit growing little ones.
Powerful protector - Guard Surround Safety™ panels add layers of side impact protection, whilst the steel reinforced frame absorbs energy upon impact.
Added by @cyberbabenilorac
Key Features
- Group 0+/1/2/3 car seat - suitable rearward facing from birth to 18kg/4 years and forward facing from 9kg to 36kg/12 years.
- 6 recline positions: 2 rear facing and 4 forward facing for tilt options at every age.
- Side impact protection provides added security for the head, body and hips.
- Guard Surround Safety™ panels provide extra side protection and can be individually activated for extra room in vehicle.
- Reinforced steel inner seat shell increases structural integrity.
- AutoAdjust™ side wings widen as headrest is raised to accommodate growing children.
- One-hand, 10 position height adjustable headrest.
- Grow Together™ multi-height headrest and harness system adjust simultaneously and require no re-threading of harness.
- Custom Harness Hideaway compartments store the 5-point harness when using as a Group 2 booster.
- Grow-with-me infant body and head support are customisable for an ultimate fit at every stage.
- Plush, deluxe cushioning and fabrics keep little one’s cosy.
- Built in side ventilation and mesh storage pockets for child's must-have travel items.
- Well-marked, colour-coded installation paths.
- Dual lock-offs for installing with vehicle's 3-point seat belt.
- 5-point harness with soft, padded covers keeps baby cosy and secure.
- One pull motion easily tightens the 5-point harness.
4 seats in 1 - holds, hugs, adapts, and protects little ones all the way up, beginning as a rearward facing seat from birth to 18kg and converting to a forward facing seat from 9-36kg.
Transforms to fit - grows up and out simultaneously so as the headrest raises, the AutoAdjust™ sides expand to custom fit growing little ones.
Powerful protector - Guard Surround Safety™ panels add layers of side impact protection, whilst the steel reinforced frame absorbs energy upon impact.
More details at Community Updates
Edited by a community support team member, 1 August 2023
26 Comments
sorted byThe crash test and ratings that Which? Magazine use are conducted by the German Motoring Organisation the ADAC.
The ADAC's ratings are based 50-50 on safety and user-friendliness. Some forward facing seats, including impact shield seats, are light weight and easy to install. The child appears to be quite comfortable in them and the covers are easy to remove. All these things will bump that half of the rating up. In crash tests the dummy is retained in the seat and the seat doesn't move more than the maximum that the test allows. So they rate it 'safe'. Combine that with the high user-friendliness score and the seat gets a 'Best Buy'.
But the dummies used in those crash tests have no sensors that measure the loads on the neck. And they have no sensors that can detect the effect that the harness or the shield has on the internal organs. When the ADAC test rear facing seats they mark them down on things like installation, the child's view and comfort (all nonsense). Because their test dummies have no way of measuring neck loads and internal injuries, the huge safety benefits of rear facing are completely lost in these tests.
Forward facing seats (including those with shields) are given high ratings for all the wrong reasons. And rear facing seats are marked down for the wrong reasons.
It is true that the Stages got a fairly low side-impact rating. But no worse than any rear facing seat installed with the seat belt in that way would get. I have tried a few different belt installed Group 0+ seats and some are quite wobbly unlike the Stages which is very solid.
The way that seats like the Stages are installed will give them a little more movement than Isofix seats or tethered ones. So most infant seats that are belt installed and seats like the Britax First Class Plus perform in a very similar way.
The Stages got an excellent frontal crash result. Frontal crashes account for 75% of all crashes and side ones are only 20%. Of course side impact should not be ignored but most car seats are designed mainly for frontal impact.
It got a good result forward facing in the crash test. But all that that test does is place a bar 55cm away from the dummy's face and crash the car. If the head doesn't hit that bar the seat passes. But that tells you absolutely nothing about the effect that that crash had on the child's neck. In a crash at 40mph there is an extremely high chance that the child has broken its neck. But the head didn't strike the bar so they give you the impression that this seat is safer forward facing than rear facing!
Also please be aware that European Standard ECE R44/04 does NOT include a side impact test at all. So there are lots of seats available in the shops that haven't been through any independent testing so there is no way of knowing how good or how bad their SIP is.
I think that the Joie Stages has quite unfairly suffered a lot of criticism. There are other seats that don't do well in the Which? tests but no one bats an eyelid. Other seats are recalled for various reasons and it goes unnoticed. I personally think that the Stages is a great seat. The cheapest rear facing seat is still better than the 'best' forward facing one. If you have £350 to spend then by all means get a BeSafe or an Axkid. But if your budget is no higher than £150 then the Stages is by far the best option. It will offer your little one far far more protection than an expensive forward facing seat.”
The most important thing I’ve found with car seats is it’s best to keep it rear facing for as long as possible. My son is only 17 months but I’m planning on keeping it rear until he moans about his legs. He’s a tall boy but so far seems ok in our stages and 360. As people have mentioned Which isn’t the standard for safety as they judge also on comfort, looks etc. that has nothing to do with safety. (edited)
So - Isofix IS a great idea as they are clearly simple to fit correctly - but if both are fitted correctly, isofix is no safer.
I have both models, they're virtually identical except the FX is heavier and has a larger, bulkier base. I find the non-isofix model easier to lug between cars if swapping things around.
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I had a newer car for my younger daughter and bought a rotating Isofix seat. Makes things much, much, much easier and better for the back of the parent. Much more expensive, of course. Such is life.