Posted 12 September 2023

Ford Focus 2016 manual as first car

I am buying my first car. Have seen a 2016 Ford Focus from a private seller. 62k mileage, £5800 quoted price. Overall condition of the car is good. 1.0 ecoboost engine, petrol, MOT done in July, most likely one tyre will need replacing.

Is that a good price? And what checks I should do before buying from a private seller?
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  1. JimboParrot's avatar
    Ask to see the bills and service record plus owner's handbook, duly stamped or the online version. Check the MOT history 'Check MOT' on the Government website - that will confirm the mileage per year after year three together with any work that was required. The Ecoboost engine does often get mentioned as being an issue so read up as much as you can seeing if this model is affected. At that age it could be going to be needing a new cambelt and water pump. Opinions differ on this with manufacturers saying anything from 10 years/100000 miles+, but ideally it is 50,00 miles/5 years so a fairly big expense.

    Check the cost of your insurance as a first car, plus road tax and whether ULEZ charges apply. You can type the registration into RAC Value My Car, state you are purchasing add your email address and it will give you the original price, dealer price and private seller price.
    SantoshKaushik's avatar
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    It’s ULEZ free, I checked RAC value, it shuts approx £6500.
  2. Willy_Wonka's avatar
    As some others have mentioned already.

    DO NOT BUY ANY FORD CAR WITH AN ECOBOOST ENGINE.

    For exactly the reason other members have stated. It will cost you thousands to fix if the cambelt degrades & a hell of a lot of them do. Just forget about it.

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    .MUFC.'s avatar
    My 1.6 ecoboost engine is alright, But only because it's not a wetbelt!

    It's only the 1.0L Ecoboost.

    Also avoid the Peugeot/Citroen 1.2 Puretec engine as that will suffer the same issue. It can be found in Vauxhalls and others too etc..

    It's a stupid design/idea. Since the 2020 Ford Puma. They've updated it to a timing chain which should hopefully resolve the issue.
  3. SantoshKaushik's avatar
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    Thanks for your inputs guys. I asked my colleague who had got 2016 Ford Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost in April this year from local Ford dealership for £8k. He has not reported any issues so far and is quite happy with his car. Do these issues come only in a focus model?
    adam.mt's avatar
    No, and not everyone has these issues. Many cars have things to be aware of/weaknesses.
  4. E_T_C's avatar
    I would look up the 1.0 Ecoboost engine, I have not had one, however they use a wet belt system and this causes some serious issues with the belt degrading and clogging the oil pickup where the engine gets starved of oil and then needs replacement.

    For pricing Autotrader will give a rough estimate of the value, please use a online Car check(HPI) for £3-10 this will tell you if the car has had an accident, been stolen or is subject to finance.
    SantoshKaushik's avatar
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    What’s the best website to check this?
  5. Ukguy101's avatar
    Yep i also have heard bad things about the Ecoboost engine, avoid!
  6. dcx_badass's avatar
    I'm on my second Focus now and really like them, I got the plain boring (slower) 1.6L though as I didn't want to deal with the Ecoboom issues. They did fix them at some point though but I'm unsure what year the cut off was, when I was looking it was too recent so prices were too high for one that new at the time. (edited)
  7. tonymgx's avatar
    For your own sanity no. The ecoboost engine has the shocking wet belt, it breaks down and clogs up the filters and starves the engine of oil. This happens due to the wrong oil being used. Ticking time bomb in my eyes
  8. .MUFC.'s avatar
    If you do go for it, Have the cambelt changed and also get the sump pan removed and clear out the oil pickup tube etc..

    Or at least make sure it's been serviced regularly and on schedule. Otherwise as noted above the oil pick up tube can clog with bits of cam belt, Thus starve the engine of oil which is pretty bad.

    I'd change the oil more frequently too, Using the correct 5W20 oil.

    Baring the ecoboom issue, They're pretty decent cars.

    I've got a 13 plate Kuga, which is run on the same platform as the Focus. It's passed every MOT without a single advisory. Hence they're built quite well underneath. Mines got the 1.6 Ecoboost engine which has it's own engine issues. However mines got 68K miles on and it's been problem free so far. I do change my oil every 5-6K as I feel that's a good interval period for my style of driving. If you're doing lots of town driving then you might want to increase frequency as that's typically when most engine wear occurs. The stop/starting typically stresses the cambelt more too thus contaminating the oil even more etc..

    The standard oil change interval is far too long unless motorway driving, You'll claw back some of the costs in having slightly better MPG and an healthier happier engine! I save costs by changing the oil myself.
    MonkeysUncle's avatar
    I agree, never ever go by the manufacturers oil change intervals as they are just insane.

    I change mine before winter and before winter, or whenever I can hear the tappets more in the engine on cold starts.

    I have never had a car engine under 160,000 miles by the time I sold it. And only engine I ever had problems with and had to strip down and do valve stem seals in was a 2.0 Audi engine at 110,000. That went on until 162,000 when I couldn't justify the petrol costs of it.

    I then moved to honda which just ran until 168,000 miles with just oil and filter changes, 2 set of spark plugs and 2 air filters, and 1 alternator belt. I bought it at 64,000 miles. It's still driving about now, rust usually kills Honda's before you get any engine problems.
  9. WatchThisSpac3's avatar
    Worth asking in cartalkuk on Reddit.
  10. tek-monkey's avatar
    First question would be what sort of driving are you doing? I had a focus as my first car, but as I was on the motorway a lot I got the 1.6 diesel instead.
    SantoshKaushik's avatar
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    Mostly town drive, dropping wife to office, kids to school, occasional long drives like once in 2 months.
  11. dan_uk's avatar
    Put the car’s parameters into autotrader to see what similar models are selling for. If it’s there or thereabouts then get a car history check done - they can be got online from about a fiver. That’ll tell you whether the car has ever been written off, has finance outstanding against it etc. 

    If you’re happy with the car and are close to putting money down, you can then buy an inspection from a company like the AA or a local mechanic who can ascertain whether you’re buying a death trap or not - especially if you’re not mechanically minded enough to check a car over yourself. If a seller is unwilling to let this take place it would be a huge red flag for me. 

    All those things are obviously optional but £6k is a lot of money and once you’ve paid your money to a private seller you’re essentially on your own so you want to mitigate as much of the risk as possible. 
    SantoshKaushik's avatar
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    Does AA check happen physically?
  12. airbus330's avatar
    Good service history vital.
    Fuel consumption will be higher than advertised.
    Engine is at 1/2 life, so should be OK if its been looked after. Its a 'big' car with a small engine, so don't expect fireworks, but its a nice enough place to sit.
    SantoshKaushik's avatar
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    Get you. I need it for town driving.
  13. Scootymooty's avatar
    I know a Ford Mechanic who has advised me to keep well away from Ford Ecoboost engine. I’m currently searching for a second hand car too. He advised me to go for VW for reliability. 
    MonkeyMan90's avatar
    He's obviously never owned a VW then cos mine was awful.
  14. ding's avatar
    The ecoboom they call it, they use the same engine in the 1.0 civic the wet belt is around 1200 to replace avoid if i were you
  15. .MUFC.'s avatar
    That was a different issue.
  16. ashmac's avatar
    Would never buy and car with a wet belt , asking for trouble
  17. 43tr's avatar
    I've owned a couple of focuses and currently have one now. Tbh, I wouldn't recommend them. All the one's I've owned seem to have had the same issue with a leaky radiator. Plus the ecoboost engine seems to have a few issues. Lucky I haven't had any yet
    43tr's avatar
    Also, one thing that does really annoys me (more of a ford then focus issue) is the rubber seal around the doors ten to fall off over time. If you wanted to buy the ford one (I recommend not) it's quite expensive but if you go on eBay you can find it for a fraction of the price.
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