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Great British Insulation Scheme - Free Home Insulation
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Under the new Great British Insulation scheme, households that meet the following criteria are eligible, regardless of whether they're in receipt of any benefits or household income. While the scheme was supposed to launch in April 2023, it officially went live on 25 July. To be eligible, ALL of the following needs to apply:
You own your own home.
Your home is in council tax band A to D in England, A to E in Scotland and Wales.
Your home has an EPC rating of D or below. Or, if you live in social housing, an EPC rating of E, F or G.
Under the Great British Insulation scheme, those in the 'general group' will only be able to get one type of insulation installed. For example, you could get cavity wall insulation OR loft insulation, but not both. And you MAY have to pay a proportion of the costs, but you'll be told this before any work is approved.
moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/free-cavity-loft-insulation/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=bills&source=TWORG-BILLS
You own your own home.
Your home is in council tax band A to D in England, A to E in Scotland and Wales.
Your home has an EPC rating of D or below. Or, if you live in social housing, an EPC rating of E, F or G.
Under the Great British Insulation scheme, those in the 'general group' will only be able to get one type of insulation installed. For example, you could get cavity wall insulation OR loft insulation, but not both. And you MAY have to pay a proportion of the costs, but you'll be told this before any work is approved.
moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/free-cavity-loft-insulation/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=bills&source=TWORG-BILLS
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Edited by tonyawesome69, 18 September 2023
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sorted byTotally important thing to do, but judging by the current governments ability, likely to be implemented terribly.
Thankfully no mould unlike some who’ve been unfortunate based on the comments (edited)
Out of the two i would go for the loft insulation, less likely issues with this other than ventilation into the loft might be needed (felt openings) to prevent sweating and if you have 1950's houses then the barrelled ceilings get condensation issues as it not possible to insulate this part (wasn't at the time i installed).
Cavity wall insulation when looking at installers see if they install thermo bead. Again less likely to get issues with this as it doesn't soak moisture but any gaps internally, pipes coming in/out, missing bricks in loft etc it will over spill so make sure they are filled before going forward. Also any sort of work to be done windows replaced / extensions etc get done first as if its not mixed correctly with the glue it will just pour out when brick works removed. Bead also requires less holes.
Rendered houses - Make sure render doesn't breach the DPC another cause of damp. Would advise against it anyway. The holes are placed in mortar joints and with it being rendered you are unable to see these which if its a older house with poor mortar bricks will move, and on a side note looks shocking until the house is repainted even more of a night mare if it needs to be removed.
suspended floors - If you have wooden floors make sure the air bricks are replaced and sleeved otherwise lack of ventilation again can dry rot the floor. Same for room vents. These are usually sealed externally to prevent more work but in reality needed for air to circulate in rooms. Get them replaced and sleeved and get and open/close vent internally so they can still be used when needed.
would a simple dehumidifier nullify the issue or is that insufficient?
my partner has applied for the above and she’s sent the details off to octopus. Our loft is insulated and boarded, though not sure on thickness so all that would be left is cavity wall on a 70s detached 4 bed. We have a dehumidifier on the go most days so I guess we’ll see what they say when they ring/come around. (edited)
Miss a small section, then you can have mould issues and cold spots.
This is not going to happen every time it's carried out, but if it you are the unlucky one, it's a real hassle to get resolved, if you don't have any problems then I would avoid it.
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"After the acquisition of Bulb, Octopus increased its market share to 17% in electricity and 16% in gas."
ofgem.gov.uk/ret…ors
Would it be applied inside, outside, or just not eligible?
Just google ‘solid wall external insulation’.
Two guys came to my house, didn't have a ladder, so lent them mine.
They drilled through my brick wall to measure the cavity depth, and didn't have a measuring device, so used a twig from a tree next to my house. All very technical!
After seeing these cowboys work, I decided to cancel it, and explain to the contractor why. They said this didn't sound right, but of course they'd say that.
I dodged a bullet. Although my house is cold, cavity insulation can be a nightmare, as described by some of the others in this thread. Any cold spots and you'll potentially get damp and water ingress.
The external surface of the external wall insulation will have a waterproof coating so no more water can get in, that's why it's so important for the wall to be dry.
Maybe UK Gov site or Shell Energy have a data breach. Super difficult to report that to UK Gov though - unsurprisingly (British organisations aren't interested in talking to people, just getting money & having a easy life). Managed to report it (sort of) after (advice from ICO) to OFGEM fraud reporting (they run environmental schemes apparently). (edited)
Anyone know which energy supplier is actually doing solid wall insulation as part of this scheme? Looks like i would need to swap to them and apply.... dont want to claim for £50 of loft top up compared to £10k wall!
Why would I regret?
They are only offering £216 towards the cost of the insulation itself. To proceed they would also need to fit trickle vents in all rooms that didn't already have them and extractor fans in the bathroom and kitchen. They are quoting a frankly unbelievable £450 per trickle vent!! I didn't bother asking what they charge to fit an extractor fan! We were expecting to possibly pay a contribution, but this works out far more expensive than if we don't use the scheme. What an utter shambles.
"As this is a government scheme, our surveyor will assess whether your home meets the ventilation requirements for your new insulation. An extractor fan is required in every wet room including the kitchen and a trickle vent is required on every window. Trickle vents would be added free of charge and if required there would be a contribution of £150 towards the extractor fans." (edited)
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"Under the new Great British Insulation scheme, households that meet the following criteria are eligible, regardless of whether they're in receipt of any benefits or household income... " (edited)
Won't bother now going by many comments. Heat (no pun intended) though for those it works out for 🔥.
The government scheme resubmitted us for this year's funding and sure enough the new main contractor wanted to do the same install but when we explained the situation they said they would fit a PIV unit in the loft. A couple of weeks later everything is now installed. Still not convinced about the PIV but at least it's unobtrusive and can be turned off.
However. I pointed out to them that I have a floored and lined loft which is fully insulated all around. I also have no need, or desire, to install the heat pump heating system. As my boiler is only 5 years old or so, and I know nothing about these systems except that I don't trust that being efficient at all in Scotland. So I asked if it's possible to only pick the parts I need. She has to go and clarify this with her boss, and she called me back to say that I either took it all, or nothing.
She said that they loft insulation was part of the great British insulation scheme, and all the others were an "eco4" scheme from my local council.
Anybody know anything about this. I think they are at it, and just chasing extra work. I'm going to have a search myself later into this, but thought I would ask in case any one has had a similar issue!
Originally applied in September last year, but didn't get a survey done until January.
The work was all fully funded via the scheme, with me in full time employment.
Took a while to get completed but am really happy with the work done & the employees who came out from Dyson Energy were great.
Just wanted to share my positive experience. Obviously, it's not the same for everyone but it is possible for the scheme to work.
All bloody scam every thing is fraud in this country for now for sure.
I headed to work, leaving them to it. I came home to find my kitchen full of insulation balls. Chest high. They had drilled straight through my kitchen cupboard (missing the boiler by inches) and then stuck their insulation blower hose in and kept filling until, I assume, they ran out of balls. I ended up having to vacate the property because, after filling 25 bin bags with these very statically charged balls, and barely making a dent in the number of them, my landlord wouldn’t help me deal with it.
Martin if you’re out there, I hope you’re still bagging up those balls, you turd.
All I’m saying is beware who you allow to work on your home.
I remember getting 1 voucher and had to take it to Halfords (who were booked for 6months+) and then when the time came, they did 5 mins of work and took the voucher at full £50 value. Asked me if wanted to pick up some cleaning goods for the bike as it would be charged within £50. Great work for them. They made ton of money from this scheme and staff told me that most of the time they end up selling bike fix plans on top of the work.
Brian is quid's in! no cells needed.
Now, because i work for a living, own my own home and earn an Ok wage (not great, but enough to pay my bills and little else) i was told i wasn't eligible for the scheme, but there was a scheme that would give me a discount of the price of both if i got them installed together.
So i contacted the people running the scheme, they came out, assessed the house and agreed i needed the insulation and that they would post me out a quote.
I live in a 3 bed semi detached, standard size house, nothing fancy.
£3800 and that was including the discount.
And they were only going to lay the insulation, and i was expected to empty the loft anyway
Dont know about you, but i dont have 4 grand just lying about that i can do this with.
So, I managed to get a guy to come round and fit 6 vent roof tiles £150
9 rolls of 200mm top up insulation £230 (On Offer (y))
3 Boxes of loft 200mm loft stilts £175
10 boxes of chipboard flooring £130
2 boxes 30mm wood screws £10
one weekend of graft and i now have one insulated, ventilated and floored loft,
The idiots that are “insulate Britain” really don’t understand this.
It’s such a shame as if live to get it done, I just won’t risk it though.
Loft insulation is a better options, but can still cause some issues if not installed properly at the edges. You can just do this yourself though. (Get some knee pads would be my advice).
He is still struggling to find on how to complaint these fraudsters
For what Iv'e spent it adds around 10% to the value of the house and now approved for cheaper green mortgages so for me it was a Win win and now much more comfortable ( I Hope ) for this winter.
My solar panels was done via a Goverment green scheme the rest paid for. I have updated the Invertor to a Hybrid Lux and a 9.4KW battery which should return my money in around 4 years.
I do agree though with alot of comments here that you need good tradesmen and realise how hard this is in this day and age as I found out everyone is just out to screw you as much as possible.
As the system and work has only been done over 6 months I'm hoping the solar pays for the gas in the winter months when I sell it back at around 20p day rate 32p peak as our useage is pretty low for the house around 8-10kWh per day.
And then kept saying Ur EPC is D hence not eligible and finally no work was done.
Nothing really works for the masses in this country...
Is your council tax band also A-D?
I declined - don’t touch spray foam for roof - has a very bad press.
Have energy surveyor coming Tuesday.
They will do loft insulation, but i have to agree to have a planed gap under all doors, extractor fans in kitchen & bathroom and trickle vents fitted to all windows. All free.
energysavingtrust.org.uk/adv…on/
"Timber floors can be insulated by lifting the floorboards and laying mineral wool insulation supported by netting between the joists"
Basement/cellar/underfloor space might allow access without lifting.