As someone explained, they are both Shimano. 105 R7000 should be better than Tiagra, details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimano#Road_groupsets but essentially in order of the most basic to the most expensive: claris sora tiagra 105 ultegra dura ace One of the main differences apart from the weight is the number of available speeds they offer, the more expensive they are the more gears you have. This is particularly helpful when you need to cycling through hilly routes. A bike with a claris casette might be take more effort than a tiagra one (for example). Then there are other factors such as 11-34 being easier in climbs than 11-32. It all depends what do you want the bike for =) Regarding the "high end" ones, sometimes the difference between ultegra and dura ace is mostly the weight. The typical city cyclist wouldn't really need dura ace unless they are really into racing, bike weight, performance and criteriums. just my opinion!
Also another £100 off this weekend, so looks pretty tempting despite the lower grade chainset and brake calipers.
So much better value and worth the extra
Yeah but it's £275 more!
Better off with this https://www.merlincycles.com/merlin-cordite-sl-ultegra-r8000-mix-carbon-road-bike-2018-114422.html?source=PHG
The benefit of trainers isn't so much a simulation of outside as the ability to generate certain power bands as desired. That's a lot harder on the road due to lights, turns, etc. If you are less into structured training, it's less exciting.
I would say to anyone thinking about trying this... try and borrow one first. I used it for a month when I fractured my wrist and couldn't use the brakes out on the road. It is a LOT different to cycling other than the same physical movement. I commute the same way 50km every day - love it. Cycle the same course (there are only four and only one is any good) on Zwift every day and I was dying of boredom after 20km. Also invest in a big fan - you don't realise how sweaty you get until you're static. Plus a turbo tyre - I made the mistake of leaving my Gatorskin on and it ruined that. I only say that because it seems to be a Marmite thing - don't assume that because you enjoy cycling you will enjoy a turbo Those that enjoy it seem to be the ones who have invested in the proper resistance turbos, big screen to show the course... i.e. to make it as close to actual cycling. When you can go actual cycling actually outside.
Get one that powers a light bulb, at least you can see where your not going XD
get an interactive one much more fun with zwift rouvey or sufferfest
Always the case, had 3 sets previously and if careful you can easily cut and no need to re bleed, but always use new olive n barb.
Yeah you are right, but I think invariably the cables need shortening anyway so you can switch them around then.
With the new slx and xt groupsets announced I expect to see some bargains for the 11sp versions soon.
Just be aware those are US/EU so they're the wrong way round for the UK so they may need re-bled to get working when swapped around.
Not much more for XT: https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-shimano-xt-m8000-brakes-with-olive-2017/rp-prod184442
These really are outstanding brakes for the price, I replaced the stock on my Trek Alpha 1.5 with an older version of the 105 with incredible results.
Sometimes manufacturers put top notch group sets on poor frames (or vice versa) but not apparently in this case. Weigh's under 9 kg and the reviews are good.
Is the Sensa Trentino SL for about £100 more better value? Full R7000 105 groupset instead of a mix including older parts, Shimano RS100 wheels instead of own brand and about half a kilo lighter. Seems really good value for £745, and all sizes are available.
Sorry, my brain wasn't working last night. Saying that, it rarely does lol
I said 'not bad'
Why would it be a bad bike for a beginner? I'd say a bike like this with a relaxed sportive geometry would be perfect for a beginner. I'd suggest looking for some better wheels at some point, but this would be ideal for new or casual riders.
well up until 2000 we had 2 genders... now we have 22.... ;)
As a guy with long legs and a short torso I've always struggled with bike size but think woman's geometry would suit me .
Erm, can you name any single person that thinks that? Bearing in mind that the vast majority were born before 2000....! What a ridiculous thing to say. (lol)
because of age, sure most people today think the world started in 2000.....
Because of age related memory loss?
Thanks for the tip, I've reordered with a wee add-on and via TCB :D
That's what I thought, then noticed it was free postage over £20 so I bought some Pedros bike lubricant that they have on sale and a rear nut (that I needed) which came to £21.98! So thanks for posting, I needed a new helmet for my youngest daughter and everywhere else seems to be charging between £30-£40 for this helmet (y)
Covers the postage at least! (y)
£2.50 TopCashBack bonus available also on top of the 3.15% you get from Merlin Cycles...obviously no guarantee they will pay out but I've been fairly successful to date, I know others haven't.
No more at 40
Just be aware these shoes are very narrow. I bought a pair a few months back and ended up buying a pair of specialised due to them hurting my feet.
Yup all stock £70-£90 - out of stock is £40
thanks ordered. still a few black and red available
You won't find it for 89. 55-65 is a standard
Good prices on a few of these, I opted for a Skylite SR as my current saddle (a selle italia flite ti) isnt quite right for me and hurts my bum after a while. Received and took out for a quick ride of 25 miles - felt more comfy so v pleased so far, it feels a lot more padded than the flite, but will need to do a longer ride at the weekend to see how it fares.
I could probably live with it for short lightly offroad rides but I don't think I'd want to spend too long offroad on it to be honest. Depends how important the weight saving is to you. If I had a gravel bike I guess I'd put a Charge Knife on it.
Is this saddle worth getting for a gravel bike?
It's this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-GUB-1158-Road-MTB-Fixed-Gear-Bike-Bicycle-T700-3K-full-carbon-fibre-hollow-out/32513765219.html
Any links to the Chinese saddle please
Tiagra's not THAT bad, the long cage rear mech gets some play due to the crap jockey wheels but they can be upgraded for a few quid to Chinese alloy ones with sealed bearings (y)
Great spec for the money. Hot. I've ridden a GT Grade with a Tiagra Groupset for 6500 miles now, wore the chainrings out after 5000 miles. Upgraded the Chainset to 105 5800 as my last one did 16000 miles. 10 speed Tiagra 4700 works fine with an 11 speed 5800 Chainset.
https://www.merlincycles.com/sensa-fermo-sl-105-cyclocross-bike-2019-137680.html extra £25 and you can get Shimano 105 groupset,
Tiagra is more than fine for sportives and casual cycling.
Most of that isn't true - Horses for courses I guess, but Mechanical disc brakes (aka rubbish disc brakes) aren't a positive as they are a headache to maintain. I have a mech disc brake bike and the discs are always catching and need adjusting, unless these are far superior I wouod avoid like the plague. You don't know which frame is better (the 6000 vs 7000 mix thing doesn't really mean much, the Decathlon one isn't their best aluminium frame and tbh I think it looks naff - the first consideration when picking a frame!), and you dont know which bike is heavier (they are both listed as the same weight of 9.6kg - https://www.sensabikes.com/bikes/road/535/romagna-matt-tiagra) Aksium wheels are certainly better, but as they are rubbish disc brake wheels they weigh more than 2kg anyway. If the wheels on the posted deal are terrible you could always swap them for some shimano rs100 wheels for about 60 quid, although tbh if you're going to do that might as well spend 200 extra and get the 105 version (https://www.merlincycles.com/sensa-trentino-sl-105-road-bike-2019-127474.html?source=PHG) which has the better wheels straight off, presumably better frame, and better groupset. The listed wheel spec can be viewed at https://www.sensabikes.com/supra/wheels/492/ra-comp-10s?number=SU19RALCL30C10 - heavy but hardly terrible. All new bikes must be shipped with a bell by law, lol... And reflectors I believe
Anyone else read it as "Spunk"? No? Just me then -_-
Out of stock.
Thanks OP 🔥🔥🔥
Wicked colour, I'm thinking Hulk!
Originally £124 for snotty green? Good reduction, but even at this price, the dragons would say, "I'm out!" And therefore so am I. Heat for the price, judgement reserved for the phlegm-coloured footwear. :p
Great price pity I bough the mt3's just last week for 50, just remember to go a size up.
Totally fine, touring shoes so meant for some walking too. I find they are a bit more flexible than my old spds but don't notice it now
the colour does put me off a little. How are they for walking about in?
The WiFli HRD is £1,349 (https://www.merlincycles.com/sram-red-etap-wifli-hydraulic-disc-electronic-wireless-groupset-102547.html) - that's a lot of money, but it's still a 29% saving which isn't to be sniffed at. It's the same price at a fair few stores, for now. I also think the prices for this generation eTap Red will go down a bit more, and whatever comes out as eTap Force (next range down from Red) will hopefully be at a very similar price but there's no real way of knowing. I think that the more unusual combinations such as hydraulic and/or WiFli will go out of stock first, so if you want one then get one now, just în case.
Recently took the plunge on a Synapse DI2. I did look at the etap version but ended up plumping for di2 as I wanted a 34 on the rear as I’m doing the Fred Whitton in May. I do like the ability to charge without the bike a bonus for etap. For me di2 has been great with faultless shifting. Good price however for a great groupset. How much is it if you add in the hydraulic disc brakes?
Assuming it's a flat bar then no, you'd need an MTB groupset instead although handily Sram have recently announced their first MTB electronic drivetrain: http://hub.chainreactioncycles.com/latest-news/sram-axs-launches-e-shifting-dropper-post/
Will this fit my 2006 Specialized ladies shopping bike?
Only short cage RD left, so restricted to cassettes with a smaller largest cog (fine for rolling/flat, but not so for your regular 20-35% rides IMO, but YMMV of course).
Good find OP - they have the M2 clarkes (ok with disc) at £10 more - no contest imo The piston self adapts for brake pad wear is why you don't want to press until fitted but with blocks removed (and the reason they come with blocks). Even then - whilst a pain, you can then move the piston back which will force the fluid back into the master cylinder on your handle bars (plastic tyre levers work well here). The real tip is not to throw away those blocks and then if you take the wheel off to insert block back in to make it easier in transit.
I don’t think so unless you replace your shifter levers as well , these are fully hydraulic brakes so squeezing the lever will push hydraulic fluid into the Caliper to push out the pads onto the rotor where as mechanical use a cable-wire from lever to caliper
Should I be able to replace mechanical disc callipers with these on mtb? Slight concerned as gear shifters are fixed to existing brake levers.
Thought shimano we’re extending their product range into crossbows from the thumbnail pic!
They likely won't fit. Disc brakes need special mounting points built into the frame so if your bike didn't come with disc brakes it's probably not got them and they can't be added later. (Note, I'm assuming you have V brakes or something similar by the way you call them rubber blocks)
Blue now back in stock
Ordered, it seems good price
only white in stock
How are the wheela ment to go around, when they are folded?
For £525 looks decent enough to me , Tiagra is very mid range GS however it’s a solid one tbf... cancelled the sensa in the end and bought a full carbon 105 Genesis for £900... added new carbon post, seat and wheels upgrade and it’s now a cracking fast light bike. Regards sensa I know a few roadies who ride them and all rate them for the money. For £500 ish price point it will be a good bike and plenty good enough for committing
@bonzobanana Hi, any chance you can give me your views on this one? Sensa Romana Tiagra. https://www.merlincycles.com/sensa-romagna-tiagra-road-bike-2018-106187.html Available for £525. I got my Vitus Road Razer stolen last week (had bought it for 350) and looking for a decent road bike (mainly to commute anyway, dont need anything fancy). Thoughts? Thanks! @markgriff3 How are you liking your Sensa?
No need to apologise btw, it was a constructive comment so thanks :))
This ones or Look x track for a bit more? https://www.edinburghbicycle.com/look-x-track-clipless-pedals
Planet X are selling the Wellgo WPD-982 Double Sided Platform / SPD Clipless Pedals for £16.00 delivered, so that looks to be an alternative. Link. Mind you, it's not clear if cleats are included.
I can't my fault my m520s. Many thousands of miles across 2 sets (different bikes) including a couple of crashes. I think they'd be the only things to survive a nuclear holocaust along with cockroaches.
Agreed. Good deal but I've done thousands of commuting miles on m520s and never had an issue, apart from the cleat bolt on my shoe shopping and trapping me in the pedal, my fault for using a replacement bolt that was too short (:I Needed a change of bib shorts after that
Yeah I’ve had the m520 and latterly the m540s still going strong ,
Downturn in smoking......legislation Plastic bag waste......legislation Housing stock improvements.......legislation Drink driving.....legislation Seat belts....legislation Corporal punishment......legislation Minimum wage....legislation Without it we would all still be smoking in pubs, driving home drunk and whacking our kids. Anyway are the shoes wide or narrow?
“Legislation” your living on a different planet m8, get back to your cycling bubble
Legislation is the way to stop gun crime, not boycotting a single brand as even if they pull out of that market you haven’t stopped demand. Legislation, legislation, legislation. On another note can anyone comment on the fit? I have wide feet
Thank you (y)
Velcro works fine, I had some Shimano SPD's for cummuting, they were velcro and they lasted for years with no issues, still work now but I made the change to SPD-SL's so they don't get used now. Laces are in fashion at the moment due to nostalgia and the retro craze, but I'm not sold on them really, I much prefer the Boa dials which I have on my Mavic's. Boa's are the best IMHO but they don't come cheap, defineatley not in your budget range £50-70.