Posted 22 January 2015
gear changing stiff on car, what could be cause?
noticed over the last few days the gear stick is stiff changing into gear.
after about 15 minutes driving its as smooth as ever.
anyone any idea what the problem is?
after about 15 minutes driving its as smooth as ever.
anyone any idea what the problem is?
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sorted byI dont know what youve been reading, but ive never know a car to take brake fluid to the clutch or gearbox.
could be the linkages or may just need greasing at certain points.
very good, i thought u ate the biscuit after you and your mates were finished playing with it?
207
if they needed greased would it not always be stiff?
checked brake fluid level and thats fine.
Check your car manual to see the interval of changes / topping off.
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i just read on another forum to check that as the clutch and gearbox apparently take oil from that area. i am not car clued but im also not daft enough to take this into a peugeot dealer and be bent over.
actually possible on thsi car ...
IIRC on 207 clutch is hydraulic and takes fluid from brake fluid reservoir - so it could be possible! low fluid level could allow air into clutch hydraulic system causing incomplete clutch disengagement.
However I would suspect degraded oil in the gearbox. How many miles / how old is car OP?
EliTom
Lol I was going to post something similar and wondered if anyone would get what I meant!!
its an 07 plate
33k on the clock.
i dont do much driving at all. the brake fluid looks just below the max level to me
is degraded oil a big problem?
how old is the car / how many miles?
when was it last serviced?
EliTom
07 Plate and 33k on clock.
ive not serviced it.....only do 2k a year.....peugeot told me wouldnt need to with that mileage but just thinking of that it sounds bad advice? lol
so Peugeot told you not to bother servicing it?
have you had the car from new?
EliTom
bought used from peugeot dealer. was told as not going many miles wouldnt need it.
OK - but the service interval is 20000 miles or 2 years whichever is sooner.
yes you could possible push the 2 year limit a bit but with your mileage you ceratinly could not go 10 years between services.
My advice would be if you want reliability teh get it serviced by a local independant garage if you have had the car for more than 2 years as I guess you have no idea how long ago the 20000 mile service was done.
any oil will degrade with age as well as mileage - so the oil in the gearbox will be 7 years old for sure. This means with gearbox wear and aging it will get thicker / more viscous. This will be most apparnat in cold weather - likew e have just had !!! Although this may not be critical now - it is a first indicator that the oil si getting near teh end of it's life.
Furthermore, because you have not had teh car serviced there have been no checks for leaks. Maybe you have a small leak from a driveshaft seal or similar and the gearbox oil is getting low - again thsi will give similar symptoms - but no so susceptable to temperature varitaions.
So most likely a gearbox oil issue as you say its worst when cold, and it has been extra cold of late.
two choices really - either get the gearbox oil level checked at least or better get the gearbox oil changed - or leave it and see if it gets worse - but if it does more damage to teh gearbox could eb done.
Seriously consider having a full service done !
hth
EliTom
i am on a website called clickmechanic. i will get this service done. i bought the car at 18k and it was just serviced so i assume its about 15k late
so you have not had it serviced in something like 6 years?
hmmm - best get it serviced then if you want to maintain reliability for much longer
EliTom
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price for major service - 186.91
price to change brake discs and pads £55
fair??
TBH a full service at Peugeot is only £195
see here
http://www.servicing.peugeot.co.uk/peugeot-service-offers/mot-and-service-offers/?campaignid=PPC_Aftersales&advertiserid=google&bannerid=peugeot_107_service&gclid=CN7HvYDqp8MCFeHHtAod9UoAHQ&match=b&kword=peugeot+107+service
I know where I woudl go
they will check and top up gearbox oil but may charge extra to replace if it needs it - but then same woudl apply to clickmechanic too
If the dealer "recommends" extra work - check teh price at clickmechanic before agreeing
EliTom
edit
looks liek teh full service at Peugeot includes new gearbox oil in the £195 charge
see whats done here
http://www.servicing.peugeot.co.uk/media/service-comparison.pdf
looks like amin dealer is the place to go after all
EliTom
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Thanks
great help.
i assume if any "work" needs done they are required to tell me before doing it?
essentially i could get the service done and the work checked and done at a local garage?
no reason why not!
just tell the dealer you want a full service - mention the gearbox issue and ask if they change the gearbox oil
and make it clear that any extra work must be pre-authorised with you.
if any other work is needed geta quote from dealera nd then check elsewhere. then if prices are similar then get the work done by dealer - they will use genuine parts and offer a better warranty on teh work
EliTom
This^
On a side note, I would never consider taking a car to the main dealer. It's the same deal as taking your car to Kwik Fit along with a Haynes manual - find a local Pug specialist and be done with it if you don't know how to service it yourself.
Read one of my earlier posts ... this is actually possible
EliTom
True that brake fluid is shared with the hydraulic clutch.
The fault is 99.9% due to the gearbox oil being cold, The viscosity changes and some gearbox oil is pants in the cold, I'd try and research the best oil for various weather conditions.
It's not a particularly hard job to do yourself, Some gearboxes don't have a dipstick as they are supposedly sealed for life but their are usually two bolts, One for draining and one for topping up, Sometimes you have to take the gearbox sump off to drain the oil, This is a good time to change the filter and clean a magnet that is often in them.
It's quite correct, generally you don't need to replace gearbox oil.
Ah this is becoming a headache lol. Quoted 60 quid to fit brakes and pads and change the oil