Posted 19 October 2023

Netflix and Chill? More like Netflix and even bigger bills

Netflix raises prices AGAIN, even though a crackdown on password sharing.

Netflix is raising prices for some of its subscription plans, despite the success of its recent crackdown on password sharing.

The streaming giant said monthly charges for its UK basic service would rise by £1 to £7.99 and the advert-free option will increase by £2 to £17.99.

Ad-supported and standard subscriptions remain at their current levels.

It reflects the firm's growing confidence, after adding 8.8 million subscribers from July to September.

It was the most in more than two years. For viewers in the US, the premium ad-free plan will cost $3 more per month at $22.99 (£19.00). In France, subscribers will pay an extra €2 euros at €19.99 (£17.40).

Netflix has been facing doubts about whether it can continue to draw in new members, as competition rises, prices climb and a Hollywood strike delays new releases. In the first half of last year, it lost about one million subscribers, sending alarm bells ringing.

Much of the subscriber growth in the most recent quarter was driven by its move to start charging an extra fee - which amounts to a little less than half the £10.99 cost of its "standard" advert-free plan - to have more than one household on the same account.

The launch of a cheaper plan, with adverts, accounted for about 30% of sign-ups in countries where it was available, Netflix said.

"Management's working hard to squeeze every last drop of cash possible from the available subscriber base," said Sophie Lund-Yates, lead equity analyst at Hargreaves Lansdown.

"As that cup begins to run dry, it will be a lot more important to understand exactly how successful the next phase of growth can be."



Netflix said it believed it had the right mix of original hits and licensed fan favourites in its library to keep audiences coming, spotlighting Suits, the legal drama now known for starring Meghan Markle.

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First released in 2011 on an American network, the series spent several weeks among the top 10 of Netflix's most-watched English television shows over the summer, racking up more than a billion viewing hours globally.

Netflix, which has been emphasising its own productions in recent years, said in its quarterly update to investors that licensing had always been important and it saw potential opportunities to license more hits "as the competitive environment evolves".

Analysts said licensed material was likely to prove increasingly important, as audiences feel the hit of the Hollywood strikes that have shut down new productions for several months.

Writers recently reached a deal, but the actors guild and the major studios, including Netflix, are still fighting over issues of compensation and artificial intelligence.

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  1. mad.dog's avatar
    Why is there no source quoted for this post? For all we know has made this up?
    Dan_82's avatar
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    Of course, i love to make things up, just for fun - I am still editing, but FYI the source is here bbc.co.uk/new…876 and many other news sites.

    Thanks.
  2. Mini_Me_UK's avatar
    My tip is to limit your subscription to 1 at a time. For example Disney + on month 1, watch then cancel. Netflix on Month 2, watch then cancel etc. Having lots of choice can be a negative thing and this approach saves money and focuses on certain content.
  3. andrewworrall1's avatar
    "UK basic service would rise by £1 to £7.99"

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    Is that a mistake and the advert supported plan is going to be £7.99? There's no £6.99 plan
    deleted2686495's avatar
    Those are the current plans for new users. There are legacy plans for existing customers.
  4. catchya's avatar
    Where's the deal?
    deleted2686495's avatar
    Discussions generally aren't deals.
  5. JamesDougal's avatar
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    ktown's avatar
    100pc. Netflix pretty much had everything 2012-2014
  6. reubenno's avatar
  7. mfactor's avatar
    How is the password sharing been stopped? , I have Netflix bundled with sky and my daughter uses it at her mums as far as I know she still is , on her laptop....
    Cal_G's avatar
    It still works on laptops, tablets and phones. My TV, Firestick and PS5 were blocked though.
  8. Little_Casper's avatar
    I remember when people used to say streaming was the low cost option, but over the years it's just evolved to replace cable and satellite tv providers, imo there's way too many different streaming services. If you make a services easy and straightforward people are happy to pay, at the moment though these companies are making illegal pirating looking very good.
    leeuk321's avatar
    It's all about perspective. Yes, with content being spread over so many different services, and with those providers increasing prices, you can definitely make the argument of us being back to the high-cost satellite TV days.

    But...there's so much more content now, and here's the kicker...you don't have to subscribe to everything at once. People do, especially in Britain because we're indulgent and like to spoil ourselves, and then moan about the cost of things. But if people just subscribed to one provider at a time, for a month or so each time, they could watch literally everything available (excluding live stuff like sports obviously) for a single, solitary subscription cost.

    My tip is to always subscribe to Disney around Christmas...it just belongs in that season.
  9. Moss.b's avatar
    So basically anyone who shares should have cancelled when they cracked down, it was in testing phase and if there had been enough cancelled they would have made a u turn. Now there's no stopping them
    Mark_Hickman's avatar
    It looks like not only did people not cancel, their relatives and friends also started their owns subscription so now they're rolling it in, glad ive still got turkey working at £6 for 4k and still allowed account sharing (edited)
  10. Nickelardarse's avatar
    Cancelled my subscription during the last price hike (also just done the same with Disney+) and never looked back. None of their shows interest me now, and if they do then they only get cancelled after a season or 2 anyway. (edited)
    ecraigy's avatar
    Well they wouldn’t interest you because you can’t see the trailers. Because you have no subscription!
  11. darthvader666uk's avatar
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    mctrials23's avatar
    My ship is currently being dusted off.
  12. Bogdan123's avatar
    Cancelled mine back in May and never missed it. There is so much around now and Netfix (especially for films) is getting left behind. Will never use again (unless I get a free month haha 😄)
    andrewworrall1's avatar
    I have to agree. I prefer Disney+ and I'd happily have that as my only (paid for) streaming service, primarily because I prefer the content on there - especially The Simpsons!
  13. DevilsNeverCry's avatar
    Currently have Netflix tied in with a BT TV sub, but once that lapses there's no way in hell I'm paying this.

    How far the mighty have fallen. Remember how streaming services were meant to be the solution to the overpriced set-top box TV problem?

    Think I'd rather go back to just Sky robbing you blind than every single streaming service doing it.
    Glacier's avatar
    We had that but recently switched to YouFibre which works out better even paying subscription separately.
    Worth looking into especially as they'll buy you out of your contact. £280 in our case.
  14. jb90's avatar
    Netflix is increasingly something I watch less and less. They throw a million original shows at the wall and see which one or two stick, so any time you find a show you like it likely gets cancelled after one or two seasons. Then they stuff in a load of old rubbish that everyone watched 5-10 years ago and tell you how amazing their range is. Honestly, when they tout Suits as their headline offering, no wonder they are offering a cheaper advert package aimed at people who aren't serious watchers. Disney+ is killing Netflix on new content right now.
    Little_Casper's avatar
    They create the same rubbish with political agendas all the time and wonder why people leave, then when they do make a great show they cancel it. I don't care regardless of what side of the political spectrum you're on we all watch tv and movies to get away from twitter and PC culture, we just want some form of escapism.
  15. Steve-O.2008's avatar
    Surely this is just pushing people to the illegal IPTV options...
    deleted2904274's avatar
    I hope not. Illegal services may deliver the exact same quality or even improve upon the quality of legal services, and may also be considerably cheaper than legal services but they remain illegal. People need to ask if its the Christian thing to do.
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    NicoOnasis's avatar
    That's brave.
    Must be an old picture, KAT shut down, for the second time some years ago.
  17. NotAnonymous's avatar
    It's always fun to read HUKD threads about Netflix. So many people saying how bad it is and how they quit or never had it.
    Netflix: "We've added 9 million more users in 3 months".

    I'm thinking we aren't the target market...
    jb90's avatar
    They've added users by cracking down on password sharing. What the figures don't tell you are how many people stopped watching but didn't sign up for their own account. I guarantee there is going to be a drop in users the next quarter after a bunch of ex-password sharers realise that they don't want to pay for it now they are paying full price instead of sharing or getting it free. Very short sighted by Netflix, just trying to play to the markets to get their share price up so they can raise debt to keep themselves liquid through the writers strike.

    Edit - NB the debt on their balance sheet is close to $15bn. Just wait for the house of cards to collapse when the lenders realise Netflix have hit a wall. (edited)
  18. Kaz00ie's avatar
    Prime Student is £4.49 a month and they’ve never asked me for ID. Just clicked join and that was that.
    RootBeerFloat's avatar
    Stremio is £4.49 cheaper than that
  19. darek.burynski's avatar
    Stremio + torrentio (+ optional debrid)
    7HOT's avatar
    I just downloaded stremio based on your comment but can't see torrentio as an add-on within the app. Should it be there? Or do you download it from the playstore.
  20. Nicolidus's avatar
    My sub is through the Philippines. £8 last month for the top package and the whole family uses it, 3 different households. Disney+ is still through Tesco Clubcard, Apple TV free trial from buying a device and Prime free with my Vitality plan. When I need to stop freeloading, I’ll have some hard choices to make!
  21. tempt's avatar
    Markets seem to like their strategy, share price up 15%

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  22. alex_uk's avatar
    I did expected that move so no surprised and I have cancelled my subscription last year as I don’t have time for TV :/
  23. JeremyJames's avatar
    Cancelled Netflix a few months ago, not worth it when Now TV and Apple TV are consistently doing free Trials . Can get Amazon prime pretty cheap too
  24. James_Ward's avatar
    I prefer my Stremio alternative anyways
    bungie240's avatar
    Stremio and real debrid is brilliant, everything you need and more, with the best picture and sound quality...and all for around £2.50 pcm
  25. Cavs's avatar
    Get stremio with real debrid account to stream through Torrentio
  26. andrewworrall1's avatar
    I got the ad plan to watch the new Chicken Run, not showing in any cinemas accessible to myself so Netflix is the only option. No other titles I want to watch and therefore it isn't worth me paying more than £4.99.

    Anyway considering it's "Basic With Ads", I was surprised that I got absolutely no adverts before, during or after the film. I'm not using any ad blockers etc. Not complaining about that, of course!

    I do wish I had saved my money as I found the new Chicken Run film quite boring. Oh well, it's just £4.99 and I've cancelled my auto renewal (edited)
  27. SpaghettiMonster's avatar
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    jono1975's avatar
    I believe that don't yet restrict on mobile devices and computers.

    Probably too much cost for admin when people complain about being on holiday and can't watch.
  28. Dazzla8778's avatar
    I cancelled my subscription last month and won’t be renewing for at least 12 months I’m happy to wait until there is a bunch of things I’d like to watch then renew for a month watch what I want then cancel it again until the following year seems silly to pay for it all year round for say 10 or 20 hours of content
  29. Professor_Chaos's avatar
    Alternative is if you really are in love with Netflix and can’t let go just keep password sharing with a relative or friend. Eventually they’ll block it from your TV but tablet and phone will still work

    im sure there has to be a way of casting from your phone or tablet  
    TwoJs's avatar
    Is the Turkey hack still possible, going to have to sign up in light of the constant increases now ?
  30. Nicmann's avatar
    I’m on the premium package at £15.99 per month, I’ve just downgraded to standard which is still advert free but Full HD instead of 4k HD and will save me £60 per year with almost zero visible difference!
    rossygnol's avatar
    I'm on the ads subscription, you hardly see ads, about a short one an hour.
  31. PxuL's avatar
    Btw: Pakistan Netflix is cheaper than Turkish now if you wanna use a VPN
    Siglufjörður's avatar
    I couldn't get the VPN hack to work. It wanted a phone number to verify. I tried a Turkish VPN. I used a temporary Turkish phone number but that didn't work. I think netflix have plugged the loophole.
  32. Ismail99's avatar
    Has anyone been charged with password sharing yet? I certainly haven’t.
    deleted2686495's avatar
    Depends what you mean by charged?

    My daughter lost access as she's away from home. So I dropped a tier, and added her so pay 1p (£0.01) less than I was. Personally I'd drop Netflix, and get Paramount+ but there are 2 others in the house who watch it a lot.
  33. BIGPHIL69's avatar
    So is standard remaining the same price? I can only see mention of basic and premium
    tallman43's avatar
    Yes.  
  34. dodgymix's avatar
    I pay £4.99 for adverts one

    There is hardly any

    Non on new releases and generally only 15 or 30 seconds after half an hour viewing (edited)
  35. Dryrain's avatar
    OP might want to change the title netflix and chill means to have s*x
    Dan_82's avatar
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    Thought it ment, 'take 25 mins to pick a film and fall asleep after 15 mins?' Damn. :/
  36. a_steve84's avatar
    Shame there's no way to purchase netflix like youtube premium ie/ VPN and Revolut. (edited)
    mad.dog's avatar
    Some of us still watch it in Turkey! But when that loophole is closed I'm cancelling (edited)
  37. Zerobob's avatar
    All TVs sold today are 4K and are capable of HDR reproduction to varying degrees.

    ... so why is 4K HDR content being sold as a luxury "Premium" package at a whopping £17.99?!

    4K HDR is standard now. This is blatant profiteering, especially considering rival platforms offer 4K HDR content as standard.

    Even when I had a Netflix Premium sub, a lot of new content wasn't even 4K or Dolby Vision, never mind older content. Netflix are misselling their Premium package, as well as overcharging for it.
    smackos's avatar
    The trouble is, it's a changing market and what was true the past 4 years isn't going to be now.

    Disney plus are as of November doing different price points for their packages now too.

    £4.99 for HD, no offline downloads on mobile devices and Adverts included.

    £7.99 will now get you only HD and offline downloads.

    £10.99 will get you 4K UHD.

    (Until it stabilises and they can themselves up their pricing on it all like Netflix are doing.)

    Amazon Prime.. as of 2024 will also include adverts, unless you decide to bump up to a "new" advert free experience at a higher price point. (Just to get the same experience as you currently get.)

    Now TV.. still aren't aware that 4k UHD are a thing, and still won't even give 1080p viewing on tablets etc.

    Paramount UK also still hasn't given us 4k either. (edited)
  38. 2minutenoodles's avatar
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    Drumilly's avatar
    I've never paid for a music service, instead I use the money to buy CDs from Music Magpie and ebay. I've well over 1000 CDs ripped to my phone and its all music I'd listen to. I could stop buying and still have all the CDs
  39. royals's avatar
    Far too many people streaming services and all have put up their prices recently. Its too much.

    UK TV Licence / BBC almost £13.50/month
    Netflix £10.99/month
    Amazon £8.99/month
    Disney £7.99/month
    Apple TV £6.99/month
    Pararmount £6.99/month

    etc

    About time the market consolidated. Also, the UK TV Licence fee should be scrapped (edited)
    smackos's avatar
    I was in that situation but just decided to say I wasn't doing all that anymore when the costs started getting too much. So cancelled my TV licence, so no live TV of any sort and can't use iPlayer. Can still use all the streaming services out there on demand, even down to itvx etc. Then at the start of each month we just cancel and cycle through one streaming service to another. Across the year you'll still watch every show and movie they all have to offer, it's all on demand at the end of the day.
  40. jlpeaks's avatar
    So basically all that feet dragging they have done on the writers strike and they just pushed the cost into the consumer anyway meaning the fat cats didn’t lose a single penny?
    leeroy_tmofo's avatar
    It's what the top brass always try first I'm afraid.

    See pretty much every formerly public UK service since privatisation as well.
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