Posted 4 November 2023

When will this greed end? - EE & BT

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Toothless tigers galore in Rip Off Britain.
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  1. AndyRoyd's avatar
    Would love to see the clickbait but unfortunately it keeps on being obscured by some very persistent Google signin rubbish.
  2. bozo007's avatar
    I am struggling to see if roaming, or low charges for it, is a basic entitlement in any service provider's contract signed willingly by consumers. People seem to forget that "free" roaming is not even 10 years old and they were paying for it before that; the free bit was also because of EU membership.
    Onlydongles's avatar
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    Agreed Bozo. The point is though, if they could do it then (under EU duress) they can still do it now, as a continuum of customer benefits. AS for roaming "costs", (hardly any in my books) they are more or less squared off when the EU counterparts travels to UK. So a zero sum/loss game.

    Minimal charging is also acceptable but in this instance, it is pure greed. The only reason is , becasue they can do it.

    All under the guise of "further investments in the network" . Please give me another one.

    And their own MVNOs (Lyca, Lebaraetc) and O2 with their MVNOs still offer free roaming. How? (edited)
  3. Admast79's avatar
    Well, I always keep saying: vote with your wallet.

    I am with Lebara, 30GB data for £8.95 with roaming included and 100 international minutes.

    Why pay more? Vote with your wallet and tell your friend about it.
    TristanDeCoonha's avatar
    For £8 there is a deal with O2 that gives you the 30gb, doubled if you have Virgin BB. As well as other benefits.
    It can be found using the search box.
    However it is a 12 month contract
  4. rainbowwheel's avatar
    Are they letting you out of the contract early without penalties as this is clearly a contractual change and it disadvantages the customer?
    Denney_Masters's avatar
    I don't think so because they class roaming as an addon. I might be mistaken
  5. aLV426's avatar
    What annoys me is I can be over 30 miles away from Europe and still get charged roaming fees (I live in Northern Ireland). Yet people in the South of England are merely 20 miles away from Europe and they don't seem to impacted by roaming charges?
    bozo007's avatar
    No cellphone tower can practically cover a 30 mile radius. Besides, it is kind of pointless to put towers in the English channel.
  6. SaturdayGigs's avatar
    Clickbait as usual (edited)
  7. Zek's avatar
    When the sun doesn't rise
  8. jinkssick's avatar
    -buy a payg 3 sim for the feel at home destinations prior to leaving

    -buy an e sim. you can pay like £1 for a 1GB in most european places and further afield
    AndyRoyd's avatar
    Combination of 3 PAYG + bundle is in excess of 5x more expensive for roaming than Lebara, and with 2.5x less max roaming data FUP.
  9. noahsdad's avatar
    At least these corporate giants are paying their UK taxes (to best of my knowledge). I am not permitted to say on here what corporate giants don't pay their UK tax, but we all know who they are anyway.
    bozo007's avatar
    It is nearly impossible to find out who is paying how much when it comes to privately owned companies or individual divisions of public companies.

    I also don't understand the obsession of many people with corporate tax payments - there is nothing wrong with legally minimising the tax bill to maximise profit for shareholders, especially when it is the government that made the rules. I wonder if people also realise that a chunk of their savings - mutual funds, investment trusts, pension funds - are invested in the same tax avoiding companies. Coincidentally, many of these have been the best performing stocks over the last decade or two. So the next time anyone feels good about their savings, just remember the tax bit.

    The companies that "virtue signal" about paying their fair share are usually the ones who haven't been able to reduce their tax bill much for whatever reason. So they market it as a positive.
  10. Onlydongles's avatar
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    My other worry is, when (and if) the Voda-Three merger takes place giving a strangelhold on the market, and to "further increase investments", they might just pull the plug on all the MVNOs in one fell swoop and hoover up the market and stitch us up, the paying customers. I can foresee this happening, as a distinct possibility.
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