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Posted 15 November 2011

20M CAT5e RJ45 UTP Ethernet Network Lan Patch Cable £2.05 delivered @ ChristGift Shop / Ebay

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This Network CAT5E RJ45 Ethernet LAN Cable Patch Lead is made using premium materials for longevity and high performance. It is used for connecting PCs/ laptops to Ethernet devices such as hubs, routers, network switches, DSL and ADSL modems. Ideal for Ethernet networks running at 10Mbps, 100Mbps and 1000Mbps. Also known as a straight-through cable.

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100% Brand new
Length: 20 meters
RJ-45 connectors
Plug and Play
High Quality Category 5e
Strong Strain Relief Plugs
With shoe for added protection
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  1. dataload's avatar
    roister

    Well if the cable turns out to be not so good you can always use it as a … Well if the cable turns out to be not so good you can always use it as a washing line.


    or use it to strangle several of the morons on here
  2. willhatch's avatar
    Python5

    cheap cat5 avoid if you want speeds of 2mb or more



    its CAT5e, 1 gb/s

    STFU and go troll somewhere else.
  3. Going_Digital's avatar
    It seems that some people seem to think they know a lot more than they really do, if a cable meets the standard for CAT5e it should work fine. HOWEVER there are a lot of cables that are sold as CAT5e that do not meet the standard. Due to the cost of copper many cheap cables are CCA, Copper Clad Aluminium, where the wire is an aluminium core that is coated in Copper. This type of cable will not achieve gigabit speeds.

    It isn't that the cable will not work, but that such high levels of crc errors will cause packets to be re-transmitted. This isn't going to make the slightest difference to someone using it connect to an ADSL router but moving large files from one computer to another will often be very slow with a cheap cable as it is simply not meeting the standard.
  4. HappyShopper's avatar
    pdhroche

    On another note I really can't see how they can sell at 10p a meter … On another note I really can't see how they can sell at 10p a meter delivered, with the weight of the cable it would cost that in transportation costs.



    Not wanting to take this thread OT, I used to ask myself the same question regarding certain goods but then watched an interesting BBC programme called The Box That Changed Britain which was about shipping containers and how they revolutionised world trade.

    Anyway, a quote from that programme pretty much sums it up:

    BBC

    In the 1960's, freight costs often accounted for 30% of the price of … In the 1960's, freight costs often accounted for 30% of the price of foreign goods. The shipping container reduced those costs to less than 1%.Containerisation is so efficient that it costs less to ship goods to Britain from China than it does to drive them up the motorway to the nearest town or city."The economics of this really are incredible because the delivery cost of shipping a flat screen TV from half way round the world from Asia to the UK is less than the delivery cost of taking it from the store to your house in the UK.


  5. dataload's avatar
    FatalSaviour

    Other threads with comments on quality of Cat 5e cables from other eBay … Other threads with comments on quality of Cat 5e cables from other eBay deals etc:http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/20-meter-cat5e-rj45-ethernet-network-lan-cable-lead-2-08-ebay-safekom-1054234?page=2http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/30m-cat-5e-patch-cable-2-89-delivered-ebay-christgift-1048988(including post #25):


    don't trust a picture, that has obviously come from a home, where they have pubes all over the floor

    pubes and bits of food all over the cable, who ever took that picture obviously doesn't look after their home/stuff
  6. supasta's avatar
    That's like using the same logic of cheap electrical cable to your lamp is going to give you low light!

    Maybe the build quality of fibre cable will affect errors over distance but not cat5 cable.

  7. deleted172746's avatar
    Well if the cable turns out to be not so good you can always use it as a washing line.
  8. dataload's avatar
    Python doesn't get faster than 2mb because he's on talktalk or tesco value broadband, ignore him
  9. Python5's avatar
    cheap cat5


    avoid if you want speeds of 2mb or more
  10. The.Fatter.Cat's avatar
    Python5

    so then you know the cheap quality materials in this cable will affect … so then you know the cheap quality materials in this cable will affect speed


    What we do know is that you are full of crap.
    Are you Realblender is disguise?
  11. FatalSaviour's avatar
    Going_Digital

    It seems that some people seem to think they know a lot more than they … It seems that some people seem to think they know a lot more than they really do, if a cable meets the standard for CAT5e it should work fine. HOWEVER there are a lot of cables that are sold as CAT5e that do not meet the standard. Due to the cost of copper many cheap cables are CCA, Copper Clad Aluminium, where the wire is an aluminium core that is coated in Copper. This type of cable will not achieve gigabit speeds.It isn't that the cable will not work, but that such high levels of crc errors will cause packets to be re-transmitted. This isn't going to make the slightest difference to someone using it connect to an ADSL router but moving large files from one computer to another will often be very slow with a cheap cable as it is simply not meeting the standard.



    I tried to avoid wading into this debate, I really did, but after seeing replies from both sides of the fence that are just plain incorrect just thought I'd mention that it's good to see someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

    Yes, quality of cable *does* matter. No, as long as you're not running huge lengths of the stuff (20m could be a bit hit and miss here tbh), you won't notice a difference.
  12. chrismarriott66's avatar
    igotallthenames

    Attenuation only happens with distances more than 100m so 20m isn't … Attenuation only happens with distances more than 100m so 20m isn't nearly enough to get this so I would buy with no worries.@Python5 next time you wanna troll, at least make sure you get your facts right! Your 2mb suggestion is ludicrous, the replies you got made me chuckle



    Yeh but if you bend the cable loads then the 0s get stuck in the tight corners... hence you only get 2Mb

  13. VladTheImploder's avatar
    MaximusRo

    20m is not enough to cause problems. You can buy in confidence. Quality … 20m is not enough to cause problems. You can buy in confidence. Quality is important at longer distances usually.


    Please, just stop.

    20m is most certainly enough for many of these ultra-cheap cables to cause problems. If you're just using it to connect with a router for internet use it won't make any difference, but if you're expecting gigabit speeds over a local network you're likely to be disappointed. Been there, got the tee-shirt.
  14. cynikill's avatar
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    Anyone want my genuine CAT 7 24AWG cable?
  15. deleted399954's avatar
    Spaceinvader, what a wonderful post I'm going to try that right now!
  16. supasta's avatar
    You will get the same speed you would get with any other network cable. I work as a network designer.
  17. Python5's avatar
    so then you know the cheap quality materials in this cable will affect speed

  18. twe's avatar
    I have bought this a few weeks back and it has been fine.... Just bought a 30m one now to go upstairs to network my router and access point.

    These will faster than most or all powerline plugs
  19. Python5's avatar

    Buy it and enjoy

    jukkie

    What we do know is that you are full of crap.Are you Realblender is … What we do know is that you are full of crap.Are you Realblender is disguise?


  20. chojin's avatar
    Thanks
  21. cibarious's avatar
    Nice find AW and I see that the 30 metre long ones are £2.99 delivered - seems impossible for the price.

    @roister - I doubt that you could buy a washing line for this sort of money!!
  22. The.Fatter.Cat's avatar
    Python5

    Buy it and enjoy


    I've already bought a few cheap 20-30m cables from ebay in the past, no speed problems or any other sort of problems.

    Now sit down and shut up.
  23. pdhroche's avatar
    mugglesquop

    its CAT5e, 1 gb/sSTFU and go troll somewhere else.


    +1

    Python, so in your logic everyone should buy from PC World for 'quality cable' and spend £20 for a 5 meter cable, clearly you're the only one thinking that way seeing as PC world are loosing money

    On another note I really can't see how they can sell at 10p a meter delivered, with the weight of the cable it would cost that in transportation costs.
    (edited)
  24. deleted391990's avatar
    never understand how they make profit on these as even cheaper business rate postage would eat into any margin
  25. andywedge's avatar
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    londonmale007

    here's a 25m for … here's a 25m for £2.49[url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.co.uk%252Fitm%252F25M-NETWORK-CAT5E-PATCH-ETHERNET-LAN-CABLE-LEAD-%252F270832322104%253Fpt%253DUK_Computing_NetworkingCables_RL%2526hash%253Ditem3f0edd4638%2523ht_2783wt_932]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25M-NETWORK-CAT5E-PATCH-ETHERNET-LAN-CABLE-LEAD-/270832322104?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingCables_RL&hash=item3f0edd4638#ht_2783wt_932[/url]



    cibarious

    Nice find AW and I see that the 30 metre long ones are £2.99 delivered - … Nice find AW and I see that the 30 metre long ones are £2.99 delivered - seems impossible for the price.@roister - I doubt that you could buy a washing line for this sort of money!!


    Someone should pop them up as a deal - both fab prices
  26. anglo's avatar
    HappyShopper

    Not wanting to take this thread OT, I used to ask myself the same … Not wanting to take this thread OT, I used to ask myself the same question regarding certain goods but then watched an interesting BBC programme called The Box That Changed Britain which was about shipping containers and how they revolutionised world trade.Anyway, a quote from that programme pretty much sums it up:


    Interesting. I went to seek it out from your link and discovered it's been on BBC4 12 times since May 2010 and I missed the lot. Too much time spent on the wrong screen methinks.
    PS. Just found a torrent of the prog on D'noid.



    (edited)
  27. MaximusRo's avatar
    FatalSaviour

    I tried to avoid wading into this debate, I really did, but after seeing … I tried to avoid wading into this debate, I really did, but after seeing replies from both sides of the fence that are just plain incorrect just thought I'd mention that it's good to see someone who actually knows what they're talking about.Yes, quality of cable *does* matter. No, as long as you're not running huge lengths of the stuff (20m could be a bit hit and miss here tbh), you won't notice a difference.


    20m is not enough to cause problems. You can buy in confidence. Quality is important at longer distances usually.
  28. Forgottenshopper's avatar
    Thankyou
  29. FatalSaviour's avatar
    MaximusRo

    20m is not enough to cause problems. You can buy in confidence. Quality … 20m is not enough to cause problems. You can buy in confidence. Quality is important at longer distances usually.



    Simply depends on the environment you put it in, and just what quality the cable (and also the quality of its twists) is like. I have no experience of this particular cable, so I will refrain from making blanket statements about this. For the price, it's probably worth a punt - I would if I didn't have most of a 250m reel of Cat 6 left from the last time I ran structured cabling anywhere! I'll stick to my original suggestion that it shouldn't matter, but that it might.

    (edited)
  30. deleted157306's avatar
    You get what you paid for :P. and for £2.... wow... very nice price.
  31. deleted457649's avatar
    Attenuation only happens with distances more than 100m so 20m isn't nearly enough to get this so I would buy with no worries.
    @Python5 next time you wanna troll, at least make sure you get your facts right! Your 2mb suggestion is ludicrous, the replies you got made me chuckle
  32. twe's avatar
    Out of interest what is the maximum throughput for a cat5 cable and the ratio to length?
    Want to measure mine when I get another one come though.
  33. badgerrules's avatar
    Is this the right cable to connect an xbox 360 to my router?
  34. dataload's avatar
    badgerrules

    Is this the right cable to connect an xbox 360 to my router?


    yes
  35. deleted384841's avatar
    Is lack of shielding an issue with Cat5 when using it at home, and is that an additional reason for low prices on these cables?
  36. -xn's avatar
    Python5

    so then you know the cheap quality materials in this cable will affect … so then you know the cheap quality materials in this cable will affect speed


    Even if it's bad quality it won't affect speeds over 70Mbit/s over short distances
  37. MrPuddington's avatar
    twe

    Out of interest what is the maximum throughput for a cat5 cable and the … Out of interest what is the maximum throughput for a cat5 cable and the ratio to length?Want to measure mine when I get another one come though.

    Gigabit Ethernet (1000Base-T) is specified for 1000Mbit/s and 100m. This is probably a hard limit, because the devices have to implement echo cancellation. Also only two connects are allowed, within 5m of each end (the idea being that there is a fixed cable in the middle, and two short patch cables to connect the devices to it).

    Since this is a flexible cable, it would not have any further connections. And the length is much shorter than 100m, so I would be quite surprised if it caused any problem.

    But the good thing about networks is that you can find out. Look at the statistics of the network device. Usually you will find 0 (or maybe 1) error - that's it. So then the cable does not cause any problems. If you get many errors, you could consider switching back to Fast Ethernet (100Base-T).
    (edited)
  38. Rix's avatar
    Just like to say I bought one last time and it connects at 1Gbps, no stability issues.

    I had to pull it through a small hole in the ceiling and it survived so the quality of these can't be that bad.

    Most people getting scared off by comments like this probably only have routers capable of 100Mbit so I don't know why this always gets brought up on here.
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