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  1. Latterman's avatar
    Latterman
    Hollaatme09/10/2020 09:48

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    There are reviews for these, google RTINGS and search for the TV on their site. They are very detailed reviews.

    Also it's difficult to answer your question without knowing your intended use and environment.

    Just gaming? PC user or console? Light room or dark room? Do you watch sports/news with fixed bright logos on the screen for long periods etc? Do you watch much "TV" as in SD or HD, do you intend to watch 4k blurays or just stream netflix/itunes? Do you have an AVR setup with speakers, use a soundbar, headphones or just TV speakers?
  2. Topcat187x's avatar
    Topcat187x
    There’s only a few choices for 2.1 hdmi right now. LG OLEDs (Cx/Bx), Samsung Q80/Q90, Sony Xh90. This XH95 does not have 2.1.
  3. donotneed's avatar
    donotneed
    Hollaatme09/10/2020 09:48

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    Flip me they are different types of tvs and sizes so you cannot compare for price. I would avoid the LG lcd and the 9005 if you can afford the other two
  4. mattkirkby's avatar
    mattkirkby
    Hollaatme09/10/2020 09:48

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    I will add, I must have 2.1 VRR and ALL, This is the wrong Sony TV, you need to look for the XH90 or XH92 (XH90 but adjustable stand) if you want gaming features, this TV in the line up is above the XH90 but the panel will not be able to display 4K @ 120HZ (HDMI 2.1 update hopefully before PS5 launch), from what i can remember this TV is more designed for wall mounting, allow you to plug HDMI etc in to a box and then a single cable up the wall to the TV.
  5. ezzer72's avatar
    ezzer72
    Hollaatme09/10/2020 09:48

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    Are you serious? That's like saying you can't find anything online about an iPhone SE.
  6. Davejay81's avatar
    Davejay81
    Hollaatme09/10/2020 09:48

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    You can get yourself a Costco online membership if you want the Sony 65" for just under £1200 and their 5yr warranty is extremely competitive.. not many are as consumer friendly. The Sony has the pros of being a full array LED so just as if not more capable than an O/QLED but with hardly any burn in threats - I've had an LED for 6yr now and never a problem. My mate had an OLED for a couple months, got a tiny bit of burn in then spent the next few years panicked in case he done it again and switched to full array.

    The Sony will support HDMI 2.1 - it's the biggest lawsuit ever filed if they don't roll out the firmware update when the PS5 needs it. And you'll get all of your money back if it doesn't. The cheaper LG866 has some awful reviews and the Sony blows them both out of the park unless you're going to be watching TV from a 90⁰ angle - haha.

    £1,169.89 - you need a £15 online membership
    costco.co.uk/Ele…718
  7. Davejay81's avatar
    Davejay81
    Topcat187x09/10/2020 10:47

    The LGs and Samsungs that support 2.1 already have the firmware to use it …The LGs and Samsungs that support 2.1 already have the firmware to use it right now. It’s only the Sony that is awaiting an update.


    Sorry removed that for it was long winded and irrelevant after replying to the lads question. But yeah, I'm just saying there's panic over nothing. The Sony already states it will support HDMI 2.1 and will be PS5 ready. I get that people may be anxious..

    Seems the world has an anxiety problem with TVs and consoles nowadays needing everything yesterday before it gets released.. reality is Sony will either release the firmware meaning they have the most up to date version of HDMI 2.1 sitting and specifically ready to deliver for that PS5 that most will plug into it.. or they're headed to court next year and about to be bankrupted by everyone who bought the TV for the console to plug into.

    I'll take my chances.. even if they don't update it I can take it back and get a refund without any arguments since it clearly states PS5 and HDMI 2.1 in the TVs description. Ain't a court in the world would allow a loophole for that.

    *ps don't take this as aggro, it's really not mate - it's just 100% true.. the other TVs are ready right now with their old ports and will need firmware updates when their consoles arrive and they get to test them - Sony owns the console.
  8. Topcat187x's avatar
    Topcat187x
    Davejay8109/10/2020 10:55

    Sorry removed that for it was long winded and irrelevant after replying to …Sorry removed that for it was long winded and irrelevant after replying to the lads question. But yeah, I'm just saying there's panic over nothing. The Sony already states it will support HDMI 2.1 and will be PS5 ready. I get that people may be anxious.. Seems the world has an anxiety problem with TVs and consoles nowadays needing everything yesterday before it gets released.. reality is Sony will either release the firmware meaning they have the most up to date version of HDMI 2.1 sitting and specifically ready to deliver for that PS5 that most will plug into it.. or they're headed to court next year and about to be bankrupted by everyone who bought the TV for the console to plug into.I'll take my chances.. even if they don't update it I can take it back and get a refund without any arguments since it clearly states PS5 and HDMI 2.1 in the TVs description. Ain't a court in the world would allow a loophole for that.*ps don't take this as aggro, it's really not mate - it's just 100% true.. the other TVs are ready right now with their old ports and will need firmware updates when their consoles arrive and they get to test them - Sony owns the console.



    They put an announcement video on YouTube the other day that states the update is coming in ‘Winter’. I’ve got no doubt that it’s coming, they confirmed it themselves. Honestly if they made that announcement sooner I would have brought it myself. I’m still now considering swapping my Q90T for the x900h.
    It’s a shame the 9505 doesn’t have 2.1, would of brought that no hesitation.
  9. mattkirkby's avatar
    mattkirkby
    Davejay8109/10/2020 10:48

    You can get yourself a Costco online membership if you want the Sony 65" …You can get yourself a Costco online membership if you want the Sony 65" for just under £1200 and their 5yr warranty is extremely competitive.. not many are as consumer friendly. The Sony has the pros of being a full array LED so just as if not more capable than an O/QLED but with hardly any burn in threats - I've had an LED for 6yr now and never a problem. My mate had an OLED for a couple months, got a tiny bit of burn in then spent the next few years panicked in case he done it again and switched to full array.The Sony will support HDMI 2.1 - it's the biggest lawsuit ever filed if they don't roll out the firmware update when the PS5 needs it. And you'll get all of your money back if it doesn't. The cheaper LG866 has some awful reviews and the Sony blows them both out of the park unless you're going to be watching TV from a 90⁰ angle - haha.£1,169.89 - you need a £15 online membershiphttps://www.costco.co.uk/Electronics-Security/Televisions-Projectors/Televisions/Sony-KD65XH9005BU-65-Inch-4K-Ultra-HD-Smart-Android-TV/p/334718


    I went for the 65" XH92 and I'm not bothered that it is not O/QLED, the full array LED on the TV is amazing, you also get Dolby Vision which is not available with some of the other HDMI 2.1 TVs, this TV will work as a general all round TV rather than just amazing pictures or the gaming features, from the reviews i seen everyone was stating it's the best value for money, they was also comparing the TV against more expensive O/QLED TVs, i am hoping that the 2.1 update is not being rolled out until the PS5 launch, the current gen Xbox has an 120hz output but doubt it has the ability to do 120 fps and Sony don't want a current gen Xbox running at 120HZ (with poor FPS source) and customers being disappointed or negative reviews as the source for 120HZ is not up to spec, also they have the other side which is consumers not having faith as they have not provided a solid date, going for the Sony without the update is a risk, but the TV overall is worth the money without the update compared to a O/QLED price even if you have to wait a little to get the full gaming experience out of it, a lot of the XH90/92 models are currently on offer, the discount may reduce slightly once the update is available and the next gen consoles are available.
  10. Uns's avatar
    Uns
    Hollaatme09/10/2020 09:48

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    I'd discount the LG nanocell, they're great mid-range TV's but if you're spending a grand you want a high-end TV imo.

    So that leaves the LG BX or the Sony. The BX is the better TV but as it's an OLED it has a risk of burn in - especially if you're gaming for long periods with static images on the screen (HUDs, maps etc.). So if you're planning on gaming for hours on end I'd go for the Sony, otherwise go for the BX. (edited)
  11. Ouzoherb's avatar
    Ouzoherb
    Davejay8109/10/2020 11:48

    Have you seen that Sony though? VA panel so it's a different story with …Have you seen that Sony though? VA panel so it's a different story with light/dark, has many millions more colours and has a much better anti glare screen than some of the much higher end models. OLED all the way folk have switched to it in a lot of cases (be it the XH90/92/95..)NOT saying you're wrong.. a preference is a personal choice, like I'm not wrong for having pineapple on the odd pizza but others may not enjoy it 😝


    No I've not seen it to be fair . I still like my plasma the best tbh but not 4k and no longer producing them so OLED was the closest for me. Sony definitely worth looking at by the sound of it
  12. Ouzoherb's avatar
    Ouzoherb
    Davejay8109/10/2020 12:04

    I've specced the life out of them all and really, the marginal differences …I've specced the life out of them all and really, the marginal differences are thrown by the sheer ability of the Sony's picture, 10bit rate and 120hz refresh. Once they get round to finishing the firmware and rolling out the HDMI 2.1 update it'll be the cheapest and best option to get any gaming done on.But yep. Plasma. My sister's got one and it makes me jealous. My top end LED 1080p really is a belter, but hers is similar spec with a plasma screen and it just looks almost 4K clarity how realistic the scenes are.. sometimes it detracts from a movie mind you - Edward Scissorhands looked more like a filmed documentary than a movie on it haha!


    Viewing angles are pretty important I think as just a 15% off angle viewing can seriously reduce the quality on some sets. Good luck choosing.
  13. Kazloav's avatar
    Kazloav
    MaciejSki09/10/2020 10:08

    Im looking for TV for gaming as well and as far as I know we need a TV …Im looking for TV for gaming as well and as far as I know we need a TV with HDMI 2.1 If talking about new generation consoles like ps5. Unfortunately Sony and Philips doesn't have that Philips 934 was my favourite choicehttps://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-usage/video-gaming



    I can only speak from personal experience. I replaced my 21.9 150hz G-Sync monitor with a LG C9. I wanted a Tv that would replace my monitor and be HDMI 2.1 ready for the new consoles. The problem with telling yourself HDMI 2.1 doesn't matter, or that you can do without it, is just avoiding the subject. Its all your going to hear in the foreseeable future, and if you don't have HDMI 2.1, then you might as well stick with the current consoles. As for PC gaming its 120 hz at certain resolutions, and supports G-Sync on 1660/20xx/30xx Nvidia cards, 3080 should give you 120hz on 4k. But if your not fussed by what HDMI 2.1 brings, there are plenty of nice (Non HDMI 2.1) tv's to choose from. I have had Plasm and now an OLED, burn in doesn't enter into the equation if you exercise a few simple rules, that doesn't rule out hardware faults. Initially they are kinda expensive. Don't get a C9, go for 2020 models.
  14. tom6195's avatar
    tom6195
    Apparently this tv will never get hdmi 2.1?
  15. MaciejSki's avatar
    MaciejSki
    Hollaatme09/10/2020 09:48

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    Im looking for TV for gaming as well and as far as I know we need a TV with HDMI 2.1 If talking about new generation consoles like ps5. Unfortunately Sony and Philips doesn't have that Philips 934 was my favourite choice

    rtings.com/tv/…ing
  16. Topcat187x's avatar
    Topcat187x
    Davejay8109/10/2020 10:32

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    The LGs and Samsungs that support 2.1 already have the firmware to use it right now. It’s only the Sony that is awaiting an update.
  17. Davejay81's avatar
    Davejay81
    Topcat187x09/10/2020 11:02

    They put an announcement video on YouTube the other day that states the …They put an announcement video on YouTube the other day that states the update is coming in ‘Winter’. I’ve got no doubt that it’s coming, they confirmed it themselves. Honestly if they made that announcement sooner I would have brought it myself. I’m still now considering swapping my Q90T for the x900h. It’s a shame the 9505 doesn’t have 2.1, would of brought that no hesitation.


    Nah definitely. I hovered with the q80/90 and the XH90/95 but really - the XH90 is getting bad press for not being AS good as the XH95 - until someone plugs the entire reason for the TVs production into it nobody knows just how much better the TV may be.

    I've done a side by side.. in order the XH95, Q90, Q80 then the XH90 specs wise.. but next to them both Sony's have a much wider and more accurate colour range and there's the promise of 120hz being able to logically deliver it through the HDMI port rather than being restricted to well.. refreshing a 60hz signal faster than a 60hz TV would..

    I'm not buying either right now however - £1600ish to play new console games and upgrade my TV is wild.. cometh the 2021 calendar to the wall and the shops panicked reductions of prices to get people continually spending, that'll be my time 😝
  18. the__cat's avatar
    the__cat
    Good deal, but not as good a deal as the other day which offered the £200 sound bar with the TV for the same price as this.

    It looks great in my living room BTW
  19. Ouzoherb's avatar
    Ouzoherb
    Hollaatme09/10/2020 09:48

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    oled all the way for me, I find led too bright and artifical
  20. Davejay81's avatar
    Davejay81
    mattkirkby09/10/2020 11:18

    I went for the 65" XH92 and I'm not bothered that it is not O/QLED, the …I went for the 65" XH92 and I'm not bothered that it is not O/QLED, the full array LED on the TV is amazing, you also get Dolby Vision which is not available with some of the other HDMI 2.1 TVs, this TV will work as a general all round TV rather than just amazing pictures or the gaming features, from the reviews i seen everyone was stating it's the best value for money, they was also comparing the TV against more expensive O/QLED TVs, i am hoping that the 2.1 update is not being rolled out until the PS5 launch, the current gen Xbox has an 120hz output but doubt it has the ability to do 120 fps and Sony don't want a current gen Xbox running at 120HZ (with poor FPS source) and customers being disappointed or negative reviews as the source for 120HZ is not up to spec, also they have the other side which is consumers not having faith as they have not provided a solid date, going for the Sony without the update is a risk, but the TV overall is worth the money without the update compared to a O/QLED price even if you have to wait a little to get the full gaming experience out of it, a lot of the XH90/92 models are currently on offer, the discount may reduce slightly once the update is available and the next gen consoles are available.


    Spot on what I've been assessing between them all. Thing is even if the consoles aren't putting out 120fps, the fact the source CAN do it and the TV has the ability to natively display 120fps and also runs at 120hz off the bat means the refresh rate itself will be a lot more polished than a 60hz O/QLED plus there's minimal screen burn risk - ideal when you're throwing a wedge of cash out there.

    Good point however is the fact the Xbox is also going to exist and neither company are daft.. a majority who want the top spec and are buying these TVs will likely own both consoles. So it's also likely Sony wants to make sure the Xbox signals are perfect before they throw the first firmware update out there.

    Personally I've got no issues with buying them all right now, but I'd rather the prices came down just a little bit more.. just under £1170 from Costco with their £15 online only membership is the best bargain for the XH90 - yeah Richer give an extra years defect warranty but Costco will cover you so long as you don't deliberately damage the TV to get the refund. Accidental damage is kinda covered too.. obviously full accidental damage would be an insurance job but most of the time if it's something the TV should really hold up to, they'll just directly replace it or offer a refund of cash and/or trade on another TV to the same value.

    I'm maybe a month away from being fully fit to go back to work, and I can't really just push some of my savings out the window to go for next gen consoles and a TV to go with them when there's literally almost no new content for the consoles just yet beyond current game upgrades. But I know that Sony is in my house once 2021 is active and the shops get desperate haha.
  21. Davejay81's avatar
    Davejay81
    Ouzoherb09/10/2020 11:23

    oled all the way for me, I find led too bright and artifical


    Have you seen that Sony though? VA panel so it's a different story with light/dark, has many millions more colours and has a much better anti glare screen than some of the much higher end models. OLED all the way folk have switched to it in a lot of cases (be it the XH90/92/95..)

    NOT saying you're wrong.. a preference is a personal choice, like I'm not wrong for having pineapple on the odd pizza but others may not enjoy it 😝
  22. singingauditor's avatar
    singingauditor
    I bought the xh90 75" last week. Very nervous about as I was moving from a pioneer plasma which fantastic. OLED would have been my choice but my son plays fortnite and didn't want to risk burn in. Its really good, I know I can get better picture quality but once you are immersed in what you're watching you forget about it. Just saying you can overthink these decisions sometimes. No buyers remorse at all.
  23. Davejay81's avatar
    Davejay81
    Ouzoherb09/10/2020 11:59

    No I've not seen it to be fair . I still like my plasma the best tbh but …No I've not seen it to be fair . I still like my plasma the best tbh but not 4k and no longer producing them so OLED was the closest for me. Sony definitely worth looking at by the sound of it


    I've specced the life out of them all and really, the marginal differences are thrown by the sheer ability of the Sony's picture, 10bit rate and 120hz refresh. Once they get round to finishing the firmware and rolling out the HDMI 2.1 update it'll be the cheapest and best option to get any gaming done on.

    But yep. Plasma. My sister's got one and it makes me jealous. My top end LED 1080p really is a belter, but hers is similar spec with a plasma screen and it just looks almost 4K clarity how realistic the scenes are.. sometimes it detracts from a movie mind you - Edward Scissorhands looked more like a filmed documentary than a movie on it haha!
  24. donotneed's avatar
    donotneed
    You cannot get 2.1 hdmi via an update. It's a hardware change 🤦
    You can get some 2.1 features like earc on 2.0b via firmware upgrade though
  25. Davejay81's avatar
    Davejay81
    Ouzoherb09/10/2020 12:17

    Viewing angles are pretty important I think as just a 15% off angle …Viewing angles are pretty important I think as just a 15% off angle viewing can seriously reduce the quality on some sets. Good luck choosing.


    Absolutely. But there's no way I would watch a TV at an angle. Optimal viewing of any TV is in front of it.
  26. Feargal's avatar
    Feargal
    tom619509/10/2020 10:07

    Apparently this tv will never get hdmi 2.1?



    Not looking good for sure. Glad i cancelled my order.What a complete shambles by Sony.
  27. rev6's avatar
    rev6
    Feargal09/10/2020 17:30

    Not looking good for sure. Glad i cancelled my order.What a complete …Not looking good for sure. Glad i cancelled my order.What a complete shambles by Sony.


    Source?
  28. Feargal's avatar
    Feargal
    rev609/10/2020 21:32

    Source?


    Source?

    I am just giving my opinion based on the continued suspension of firmware upgrades by Sony as detailed HERE
  29. rev6's avatar
    rev6
    Feargal09/10/2020 21:52

    Source? I am just giving my opinion based on the continued suspension of …Source? I am just giving my opinion based on the continued suspension of firmware upgrades by Sony as detailed HERE


    Nothing to do with HDMI 2.1
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