[Steam] Human Fall Flat - £2.08 - Gamivo/Playtime

Avocado_KitKat12/01/2019 22:05

IIs this site legit or is it like G2A with shady keys?

The keys will be legit but it does seem like the sellers on there might obtain them in shady ways like hacked accounts/payment details. Otherwise how will they be getting keys for games like this for lets say £1.40 each(£1.78 minus a tiny bit to give themselves 30p profit)? The game isn't ever on sale for £1.40 on proper sites that don't use third party sellers and get their keys direct from the devs, so how is this seller getting them for £1.40 or so?

It sucks because on one hand I want to buy this for £2 but on the other I don't want to help fund them if they're using essentially stolen keys and are criminals. (edited)

Creepy and boring all at once.

Very fun to play with friends. Never laughed so much at a game.

Great game
+37p on payment screen (edited)

cartwheelbob10/01/2019 16:59

Great game +37p on payment screen

My apologies, I wasn't aware this existed. Updated price to reflect mate

BuzzDuraband1 m ago

My apologies, I wasn't aware this existed. Updated price to reflect mate

No worries. Got on Xbox but now purchased on pc too so thank you

Apparently good fun with friends... I wouldn't know Looks ace though

Great price for this - heat
I enjoyed the game more than I thought I would actually - it looks fairly rubbish, the camera angles are often annoying and the control is (deliberately) bad... but there's something that compels you to try, try and try again!

Great game. Completed this with a mate on the PS4. Well worth a look

IIs this site legit or is it like G2A with shady keys?

Avocado_KitKat12/01/2019 22:05

IIs this site legit or is it like G2A with shady keys?

It's like G2A in that it's a marketplace where lots of different users sign up for accounts and sell game keys (like a digital eBay) so, like G2A, some sellers might be scammers but they're not going to last long, so always check seller feedback. You'll see a lot of the same sellers on G2A, Kinguin and Gamivo, so how legit each site is really depends on how well they deal with bad sellers.

Although that does beg the question - how come HUKD allows deals to be posted from Gamivo but not G2A, Kinguin, or individual seller deals from eBay?

randomusername760528193512/01/2019 22:16

The keys will be legit but it does seem like the sellers on there might …The keys will be legit but it does seem like the sellers on there might obtain them in shady ways like hacked accounts/payment details. Otherwise how will they be getting keys for games like this for lets say £1.40 each(£1.78 minus a tiny bit to give themselves 30p profit)? The game isn't ever on sale for £1.40 on proper sites that don't use third party sellers and get their keys direct from the devs, so how is this seller getting them for £1.40 or so?It sucks because on one hand I want to buy this for £2 but on the other I don't want to help fund them if they're using essentially stolen keys and are criminals.Read lessRead more

Relax, this game has been bundled before - several times - so there will be lots of spare copies out there that people are giving away or selling cheaply. It's also been sold in a 4 pack for £10-11 so there will be lots of spare copies from those as well, so chances are they're legit. (edited)

reddragon10512/01/2019 23:14

It's like G2A in that it's a marketplace where lots of different users …It's like G2A in that it's a marketplace where lots of different users sign up for accounts and sell game keys (like a digital eBay) so, like G2A, some sellers might be scammers but they're not going to last long, so always check seller feedback. You'll see a lot of the same sellers on G2A, Kinguin and Gamivo, so how legit each site is really depends on how well they deal with bad sellers.Although that does beg the question - how come HUKD allows deals to be posted from Gamivo but not G2A, Kinguin, or individual seller deals from eBay? Relax, this game has been bundled before - several times - so there will be lots of spare copies out there that people are giving away or selling cheaply. It's also been sold in a 4 pack for £10-11 so there will be lots of spare copies from those as well, so chances are they're legit.Read lessRead more

If someone said to me they have a few spare keys they're selling, like people do on Reddit, then sure of course it'll just be left over bundle keys or something. But the sellers on there sell thousands of keys, the one you linked to has sold 70,000, so it's not their spare keys. They could have bought them from someone else sure, but even if someone sold them their spare Human Fall Flat key for just £1 they'd have to somehow find hundreds of people selling keys all for that price, all that work for 70p profit each time when they sell them at £1.70. The sellers don't have websites where you can sell your keys to them easy for them to then sell on so how are you suggesting they buy all these spare keys that people got in a bundle but don't want?

It just seems like a much less likely option when it's well known that there have been sites whos keys are mostly stolen. Like why is it so definite that the sellers on this site aren't doing the same thing? especially when we have no idea who they are since it's pretty much anonymous. The seller for these keys is literally just called "playtime", has a display photo that is just taken from the first page of google when searching for "fireworks", and that's it. Yeah totes has to be legit.

Also the sellers of course won't have bad reviews because they give people keys like they say. If you buy something, they give you what you want, you'll give them a good review. So saying check the reviews of the sellers don't mean much either. (edited)

randomusername760528193513/01/2019 00:00

If someone said to me they have a few spare keys they're selling, like …If someone said to me they have a few spare keys they're selling, like people do on Reddit, then sure of course it'll just be left over bundle keys or something. But the sellers on there sell thousands of keys, the one you linked to has sold 70,000, so it's not their spare keys. They could have bought them from someone else sure, but even if someone sold them their spare Human Fall Flat key for just £1 they'd have to somehow find hundreds of people selling keys all for that price, all that work for 70p profit each time when they sell them at £1.70. The sellers don't have websites where you can sell your keys to them easy for them to then sell on so how are you suggesting they buy all these spare keys that people got in a bundle but don't want? It just seems like a much less likely option when it's well known that there have been sites whos keys are mostly stolen. Like why is it so definite that the sellers on this site aren't doing the same thing? especially when we have no idea who they are since it's pretty much anonymous. The seller for these keys is literally just called "playtime", has a display photo that is just taken from the first page of google when searching for "fireworks", and that's it. Yeah totes has to be legit.Also the sellers of course won't have bad reviews because they give people keys like they say. If you buy something, they give you what you want, you'll give them a good review. So saying check the reviews of the sellers don't mean much either.Read lessRead more

Okay, first of all, of course checking the reviews of the sellers means something - if keys are stolen, the developers will be able to revoke them, meaning anyone who bought a stolen key will have the game removed from their Steam library - and then they'll be flocking to Gamivo to leave negative feedback and complain about the seller. I doubt Gamivo is going to let anyone have an account for long if they're scamming people en masse - they'll want people to trust them so they keep buying from them so they keep making money, so it's in their best interests to deal with scammers as quickly as possible. The fact that Playtime has over 70,000 feedback and it's 100% positive tells me that they've been doing this for a while without scamming anyone, so chances are that's how they intend to continue.

Secondly, 70,000 feedback means they've sold 70,000 games in total - not 70,000 copies of Human Fall Flat. I can't see how many copies of this game they do have, but maybe they only have 20 or 100 and those could easily have come from bundles. This game was in the $1 tier of a Humble Bundle just over a year ago, so they might have bought hundreds if not thousands of copies of that bundle, or they might have bought loads of copies from other sellers when it was 50p and waited for the price to go up. £1.50 profit per copy times hundreds or thousands of copies is a worthy investment in the long run. With just a bit of searching, I can see that they're currently selling several games available in the Green Man Gaming Lucky Dip for 99p, so it's quite possible that that's where the keys they're currently selling are coming from. In fact that goes for a lot of sellers on there - if they're selling a game that's been in a bundle, you can check what other games where in that bundle and chances are that seller will have those games as well, so what does that tell you? They're buying bundles and selling them on.

And finally, if you were going to try to make a bit of money by selling stolen keys, would you really choose a £2 game? Stolen keys are usually acquired with stolen credit card details, so scammers would have a choice of which game(s) to go for, so why wouldn't you go for a new release that costs more like £30? 10 stolen copies of Resident Evil 2 would get you more than 100 stolen copies of Human Fall Flat. You ask whether it's worth the effort making 70p profit per time and the answer is, yes, that's how legitimate business works - lots of small amounts of profit over a long period of time. Even if they are getting these for 99p from GMG that's a 70% profit margin, which is fantastic for a business, but they're going to have to sell a high volume if they want to make any real money from it, and to do that they're going to need their Gamivo account. (edited)

Nice bought 3 copies

If you like this try out gang beats - similar controls but in a competitive physics based environment, one of the best party games ever

Funny to start with but now I hate this game, get forced to play it with kids on Xbox.

Great game, completed it in the Xbox, some of the achievements were challenging but there are plenty of guides online if you get stuck

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