To be fair I don't know which Canyon and Trek frames are made there but the fact they show both brands on the site shows many are made there. In the past some brands had their higher end bikes made in better factories in Taiwan like Merida and Giant. I think unlike Specialized some Trek frames and forks were made in the US and they may still make their very high end pro bikes in the US. I've got an old Trek 820 from about 1996 and that is made in Taiwan but I think in the very early 90s they were still made in the USA or maybe just assembled from Taiwanese parts. I don't think being made in the USA is a particularly good thing though. The original US made Cannondales were jokingly called 'Crack'n'fails' and the frames improved when they were made in Asia. Taiwan still probably makes the best manufactured frames overall, at least mass-produced frames.
Polygone are quality Have a beautiful Decathlon bike and highly recommend them. Also the £750 electric bike from electricengland.co.uk is an absolute steal currently.
A gravel bike wouldn't have suspension, most you will get is a bit of absorption from carbon forks (/seat post). If you want suspension go the MTB route
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Thanks for this. That is shocking. Poor sods. Trek is an expensive brand as well, giving the impression that they manufacture all their own bikes. I recall a few years ago one of the Chinese carbon mass manufacturers proudly stuck up a photo of a really expensive carbon racing bike frame and fork they were making for another US company. The photo quickly got taken down but not before quick web surfers saw it.
it does say they are , but they are tough and a quick spray with scotchgard would work well on these, I would recommend them. if it rains tomorrow, I'll update you.
I received mine a couple of days ago and they are very sturdy, nice wide fit, so they don't crush your toes (I don't have wide feet, but lots of trainers can be too narrow) they feel like they'll last for years.
Does anyone who has bought them know if these are Waterproof ?
I occasionally buy from them if they have the best price for something but I always use the Klarna 30 day option now cos then I'm not out of pocket when they don't actually send my order and I can just cancel via Klarna (this happens frequently with Blacks & Millets as the website stock doesn't reflect the actual stock so they sell people things they don't always have)
JD sports ? No thanks....
Glad that you are happy with your chairs. Two chairs for £10 sounds like a good deal that even this lot can't screw up.
No need to apologise, you get it, I can see that. Consider PayPal as a safer payment option, and if £100+ USE YOUR CREDIT CARD even if only for a deposit, say £10. With PayPal you get CS, who looks after us, the buyer, and with your CREDIT CARD COMPANY? you are protected under section 75 (I believe it is) of the CONSUMER CREDIT ACT. Companies may be able to jerk us around, but not our CC company, and certainly NOT PayPal (y)
Just as well I’ve never been camping then! (lol) It sounds a nightmare trying to buy stuff! i got an email from them about the sale because there was a deal on here for two camping chairs for £10 from them and I bought them to take on my dog walks, so I was signed up for emails. i have to say the camping chair has been brilliant this summer but I definitely would not go camping!
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These are very capable bags. I bought 3 of the 60 litre ones a few years ago for a holiday using Easy Jet. It meant the bags weighed far less than our solid Samsonite ones, so that we could pack more stuff! Heat added
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Browse the Blacks merchant pages at hotukdeals to pick up a money-saving voucher. Once you've chosen your Blacks discount code from hotukdeals, these simple steps show you how to use it for your next online purchase:
Shop for clothing, footwear and equipment and put the items in your basket.
When you've finished shopping, click 'checkout'.
Enter your Blacks promo code when prompted.
Select your delivery option and enter a delivery address.
Select how you want to pay and complete your purchase.
FAQs about Blacks
Do Blacks do student discount?
Yes, it does. Blacks has linked up with UNiDAYS to offer a 10% discount on all of your purchases. Visit the student discount page to register your details with UNiDAYS or login if you're already registered. Then continue shopping as normal.
How long does Blacks take to deliver?
Delivery times for Blacks clothing, equipment and footwear vary depending on the delivery method chosen. Standard deliveries take from three to five days. There are also Next Day Standard UK and Next Day Premium UK delivery options as well as a 48-hour Express delivery service for heavy items. BFPO orders take up to five days while delivery times for international orders vary depending on the country. Click and Collect to your nearest store takes between seven and ten days.
Do Blacks delivery to the Channel Islands?
Blacks delivers to Jersey and Guernsey in the Channel Islands. Select Jersey/ Guernsey at checkout and your order will qualify for the UK standard delivery service and should arrive within 5 days. Delivery charges are £4.95 for orders up to £80 and free for orders over £80. Purchases worth more than £150 must be signed for on delivery.
Do Blacks do NHS discount?
While Blacks doesn't do individual NHS discounts it does work closely with a wide range of organisations including the NHS, police force, ambulance service and mountain rescue etc. offering a 15% discount for group orders and bulk buys. Alternatively, NHS staff registered with healthservicediscounts or PS Discounts can enjoy up to 10% off their orders as well as cashback offers.
Who owns Blacks?
Trading as Blacks Outdoor Retail Ltd, the company is headquartered in Bury, Greater Manchester and is the largest outdoor retailer in the UK. Blacks went into administration in 2012 and was bought by JD Sports Fashion plc. The group also owns Millets and Ultimate Outdoors.
Blacks UK Delivery
As well as a choice of 500 collection points across the UK, Blacks also offers a selection of delivery options:
Standard UK Delivery
Orders are delivered between 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. seven days a week, taking between three to five days to arrive. The delivery cost for orders up to £80 is £4.95 while orders worth over £80 are delivered free of charge. Orders over £150 have to be signed for when delivered. You can track the progress of your order once it has left the warehouse.
Next Day UK Standard Delivery
This service costs £5.95. Orders placed before 6:00 p.m. will be delivered between 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. the following day (including weekends). Your order can be tracked once it has been dispatched. Next day deliveries are not available for the Channel Islands.
Next Day Premium UK Delivery
This costs £6.95. Place your order before 6:00 p.m. and it will be delivered the following day (between 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m) including weekends. All orders must be signed for on delivery and you can track orders once they're on their way.
Express 48 Hours (Heavy) Delivery
A charge of £6.99 is made for this delivery option (mainland addresses only). Place an order before 6:00 p.m. and it will be delivered on Monday to Friday within two working days of the order being received. This option is for single orders weighing more than 20kg and the order will need to be signed for on delivery. They can be tracked once dispatched.
Orders from the UK can be delivered to selected destinations across Europe. Prices and delivery times vary and the recipient is responsible for any import duties due.
Standard delivery to all BFPO addresses around the world is free. Orders should be received by local BFPO offices within five working days.
Click and Collect
This costs £3.95 or is free for orders worth £30 or more. Items take up to 10 days to arrive at one of the 500 collection points across the UK. You will be notified by email when your order is ready for collection and proof of purchase along with valid ID must be shown when collecting your shopping. Items not collected within 14 days will be returned to stock and your account refunded.
The Blacks Returns Policy
If you are not totally happy with your Blacks purchases, making returns is a straightforward process. You have a generous 28 days to request a refund or exchange. Refunds can be made in-store or online while exchanges can only be done in-store.
Unless something is faulty, you are responsible for the postal costs of returning an item. Items such as swimwear and underwear can only be refunded or exchanged if shown to be faulty. Boxed bicycles can be returned directly to the Blacks warehouse while assembled bikes should be taken to your nearest store for inspection.
To request a refund for items bought online:
Complete the returns form attached to your order.
Wrap up your items carefully making sure to include the original packaging and labels.
Organise a courier collection via the Hermes returns portal, or
Return free 24/7 to any InPost UK locker using the Blacks portal, or
Use your nearest CollectPlus drop off point (cost £3.99). Print a returns label at the Yodel portal.
Finally, you can also make a postal return. We suggest getting proof of postage. Return to Blacks Internet Returns, XPO Logistics, ERF Way, Middlewich, CW10 0QJ.
Paying for Your Blacks Online Order
Blacks offers customers an extensive range of payment methods for online shopping. These are:
Contacting Customer Services at Blacks
Blacks offers an extensive customer care service ranging from FAQS to several methods of contacting a member of staff. If you have a question about a product or a query about an order or delivery then you'll find help here:
FAQs: See if you can find an answer to your question on the FAQs page. This is grouped into useful categories such as Shopping Online, My Account and Returns and Refunds.
By Phone: The phone lines at Blacks are open 24-hours a day, 7 days a week. Call on 0161 393 7059.
Live Chat: Click on the orange live chat button which is located at the bottom right-hand corner of the contacts page.
Follow Blacks on Social Media
Blacks uses social media to promote its brand and products as well as to connect with its customers. Facebook and Instagram provide a showcase for Blacks clothing, footwear and equipment while stunning photographs show it being used in a natural environment. Its Twitter feeds are full of interesting links to articles and ideas on everything from recreating music festivals virtually to exploring outer space. The Blacks YouTube channel not only promotes its products but has a wealth of informative videos covering everything from cooking campfire meals through pitching a tent and repairing broken tent poles. Share, like or follow Blacks on:
The label was launched in 1863 as Blacks Outdoor Retail. Since then, its aim has been to promote everything about the outdoor life whether it's walking and cycling or camping and mountaineering. The philosophy of Blacks is that the great outdoors should be accessible to everyone by making sure they have the right equipment, clothing and footwear. The label went through a tricky patch in 2012 but was saved when JD Sports Fashion plc bought the label. It is now part of Millets and Ultimate Outdoors, retailing reliable and well-known branded names at affordable prices.
The Blacks Price Promise
Blacks is so sure it offers great value for money on its outdoor ranges that it makes a genuine price promise. Find any product in the range at a lower price elsewhere and Blacks will beat it by 10% (terms and conditions apply). Fill in the online form and a staff member will get back to you as soon as possible.
The Blacks Product Range
Think about anything you need to enjoy an outdoors hobby and Blacks is sure to have it in one of their stores or online. Its product range is made up of well-known labels and is broadly split into eight categories. Visit Blacks regularly to keep up with the latest developments in outdoor life.
Blacks for Men
Featuring names such as The North Face, Craghoppers and Berghaus, the range for men at Blacks includes waterproof jackets, base layers, accessories and walking boots. Everything is designed to let you reliably tackle any environment and battle any element. Shop by category or activity.
Blacks for Women
Carrying a similar range to the men's department, Blacks for women also features big names in outdoor clothing including Peter Storm and Salomon.
Blacks for Kids
Start kids off with a love for sports, adventure and the outdoor life at an early age and the passion ignited will last them a lifetime. Like the clothing for mum and dad, kids' clothing and footwear features the latest technology with a little extra for the tough wear and tear they're going to get.
Footwear lines at Blacks are designed for men, women and children and feature outstanding names such as Scarpa Footwear and Meindl Footwear. The footwear product range covers walking shoes and boots, running and multi-terrain trainers, sandals and sliders and wellington or industrial boots along with casual designs for smart urban wear.
The equipment range at Blacks is truly impressive, again featuring brand names that include Osprey, Garmin and Lifeventure. Whatever your hobby or outdoor interest you'll find tents, rucksacks, camping gear, lighting, GPS, maps and compasses to help you get the most out of it.
Blacks for Camping
Large and small tents, everything you need for cooking up a storm on a camping trip, tables, chairs, lighting and even specialist food. On top of this you'll find sleeping bags and everything you need yo have a great camping trip. All items has been tried and tested by the experts so you can set off for your camping break in total confidence.
Blacks Cycling Range
Racer, road, hybrid, mountain, foldable and kids bikes along with all the clothing and accessories to support them can be found in the Blacks cycling range. Everything is high-tech and high-spec and sourced from the best brands on the road such as Carrera and Bontrager.
Activities at Blacks
To make shopping easier, click on 'activities' and you'll be taken to a choice of hiking, fitness, running, camping, cycling, travel and skiing sections where everything you need is bought together on easy-to-search pages. There is even a section devoted to supporting Duke of Edinburgh Award activities with recommended kit and clothing lists.
Shopping at Blacks
Blacks is part of a select list of shops in the UK devoted to outdoor life and adventures. While Blacks probably carries the largest range of products, similar shops include Millets, Cotswold, Go Outdoors, The North Face, Trespass, Tiso, Nevisport and Simply Hike. Among the most popular brands at Blacks is Berghaus, The North Face, Eurohike, Peter Storm, Garmin, Osprey and Craghoppers. With an informative blog, well-shot pictures and useful filters for every category, shopping at Blacks is always the start of a great outdoors adventure.
The Blacks Sale
With well over 60 stores across the UK, you are never far from a Blacks shopping experience or a Blacks sale. High-street sales are generally held two or three times a year but at Blacks online, every day is a sale day. Click clearance on the menu bar to discover Blacks deals of up to 70% off on products right across the range. Black Friday and Cyber Monday in November are eagerly awaited events that deliver further Blacks outdoor offers such as half-price deals on clothing and huge discounts on specialist equipment. Also, visit hotukdeals regularly for even more Blacks bargains.
Buying a Blacks Gift Card
If someone you know has an adventurous spirit or loves the outdoor life, give them a gift they will love to use with a Blacks Gift Card. Called the Ultimate Gift Card, it can be used at over 500 participating stores in the UK including Blacks, Ultimate Outdoors, JD Sports, Scotts, Tessuti and Millets. With so many stores participating, the recipient can choose from thousands of products. Once purchased, the Ultimate Gift Card is valid for 12 months but can only be used at participating stores and not online. To buy:
Click on 'Gift Cards' at the bottom of the homepage.
Select your amount from £10 to £300 and the number of cards you want.
Add to your basket and head to the checkout.
Fill in a Blacks voucher code if you have one.
Add delivery details.
Select your payment method (credit/debit card or PayPal) and complete your purchase.
Redeeming a Blacks Gift Card
If you have been the lucky recipient of a Blacks Gift Card (the Ultimate Gift Card), you'll want to start shopping as soon as you can. The card is valid for 12 months from the purchase date and can only be redeemed in participating stores such as Blacks, Millets, Ultimate Outdoors, JD Sports and Tessuti:
Visit your nearest outdoor specialists store and shop for equipment, clothing and footwear.
Present your Ultimate Gift Card at the till for use as part or complete payment.
Any remaining balance on your gift card will be shown on your receipt.
Gift cards cannot be refunded or exchanged for cash.
Treat them as carefully as you would treat cash - if lost, they cannot be replaced.