MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ventus 2X Black 8GB OC Edition £289.99 delivered @ AWD-IT

I normally want to agree with a lot of your general sentiment and frustration at the situation, but you so very often take things too far and comment on things you only think you understand, but dont. Also, the 'Ngreedia' thing you do relentlessly just makes you sound immature and makes it harder to take your posts seriously.

Avoid this card, it's more for 1080p gaming:

DF is literally a PAID Ngreedia shill outlet- and always has been. Their method is to test a ton of scenarios, and eliminate the vast majority that show Ngreedia in a bad light, leaving only the few tests that show a positive outcome. The old 'selective editing' fraud.

Far better to look at Hardware Unboxed, now they are starting to include a much better range of games.

Impartial voice of reason right there...

I disagree - from what I've seen the 4060 doesn't lag the 3060ti that much in frame rates, yet the 4060 is cheaper, uses much less power and offers frame generation as an option. DLSS3 is only going to get better, not worse.

I'm not saying youre wrong, but there are always two sides to these things! (edited)

It'll (the 4060 in general) soon be 250 or less. GPUs aren't selling, and there are too many products with similar performance at a similar price point. And, more importantly, the relative performance of these cards is anything but desirable. Over-priced undesirable junk is the worst scenario for all the GPU manufactures. At least over-priced DESIRABLE product gets aspirational sales from people who might save their pennies- but near 300 quid for the POS that is the 4060?

Given the collapse in the cost of parts, it really is below a 4050 in terms of what the card costs Ngreedia to build, when the relative history of GPUs is considered.

Because it should’ve been called the RTX 4050 Ti and under £250. And 8GB of VRAM shouldn’t not belong to a 60 series card.

It's still a benefit :-D I take your comments on board sir thanks for the input

I think 3050 and budget laptop gaming gpu, I'm not sure who buys the actual cards

Eurogamer review a good perspective. I can't say I've got any incentive to replace my 3060Ti but the watts burned and the DLSS 3 frame generation stuff is impressive.

The bit I really don't like is the straight-line performance to £ unseen before with the 40 series cards. Nvidia doesn't care though, their AI business will ensure a healthy P&L for the foreseeable.

AMD aren't the good guys inspite of all the hate on Nvidia. In a strange turn of events, we should all be cheering for Intel.

GN were quite fair I thought? If you don't need to upgrade, don't and skip a Generation, same as most release years? This generation is all about software and the GPUs ability to harness it and it DOES make a difference, the difference the majority of gamers are looking for, so if you're on a 30 series, stick with it, it ain't worth the money. That's nearly always true, no? He also said the RX6700 is great if you want the VRAM, but you lose the feature set. Same as the RX7600. I thought it was fair, to be fair, to be fair? Digital Foundry's summing up was quite balanced too, no?

What it does show is that the 4060Ti does give the % uplift over the younger sibling for a similar % price increase. Not condoning it, but NVIDIA have put us all in a bit of a spot, haven't they? When the 30 series stock is gone and when more and more games support the DLSS 3, we will be in a right quandary then. Shame AMD could not come up with something more 'modern'. I assume they'll eventually copy NVIDIA's Frame Gen thing, but if it takes them 2 x Gens to get it right, then that'll be another nail in the coffin for them. It'll be all 'AI' for a few years, then it will be the de-facto and something else will take it's place.

Neither of them are too bothered about us few gamers anyhow, are they. Bigger fish to fry in the AI World these days. So hard to blame them really. We should count ourselves lucky they have 'allowed' us to progress
at all!

So, yes, just skip this generation, as everyone seems to be and that's our best chance of a success next time around!

He works there.

The 16GB A770 LE from Intel is end of life now, so it's unlikely you'll see it go that low. That just leaves the Acer model for a 16GB A770, and that's still up over £400 in the UK. (edited)

It's time for a new tower, your CPU will massively hold back a 4060.