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New Nissan Leaf Hatchback 110kW N-Connecta 39kWh 5dr Auto - Metallic gun metal - Woven fabric - Black

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The 39kWh battery version has a perfectly respectable 0-62mph time of around eight seconds. Officially the range is 168 miles on a full charge, but in our Real Range testing we managed just 128 miles

The entry-level 39kWh Leaf still makes sense if you’re on a budget because it is a fairly large EV that’s reasonable to drive, well equipped, and easy to live with

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  1. fishmaster's avatar
    Two problems :

    1. Second hand market for EVs. This is where the deals are and there are cars with better battery technology and range for less than this car used and also aren't high mileage. Kona, e-Niro 64kWh for example.
    2. The battery system on this car isn't cooled. This has two problems. Excessive battery wear compared to superior competitors 1st / 2nd gen iONIQ for example which have excellent battery health at 100K miles. Successive charging on longer trips. The 2nd and/or 3rd time you charge on the longer trip the charging will throttle.
    3. I know I said 2 but look at how much these are used.

    Also use AT Price Tracker extension on Firefox browser and you'll see the pricing history on Autotrader. Just a quick example. It's it murder on the second hand market for EVs. Used is definitely where it is at.

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    Absolute destruction on the used market. If you buy new you honestly hate money. iONIQ 5 for £22K now and low mileage. Utter destruction. You are getting wrecked buying new. Stay away from new.

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    EQL's avatar
    You are comparing a 6 year-old car to new here (9.6k to 20.4k). There are good secondhand deals out there (Kona/Ioniq etc.), and new cars do depreciate rapidly. I suspect there's a bit of a glut of secondhand deals with secondhand fleet (company) cars coming onto the market (at the moment fleet seem to be buying more new EVs than private buyers). However they get them, people should try EVs, they will probably love them (different EVs are available for different use-cases).

    Some may like the comments on a similar previous deal (a Leaf Tekna):
    hotukdeals.com/dea…804 (edited)
  2. ghow007's avatar
    I don’t even know why I’m replying as often this kind of comment falls on deaf ears....however…
    I’ve owned a BMW i3 now for over 6yrs. In that time maintenance has been next to nothing. Tiny service every 2yrs for about £70, change of tyres once.
    I’m on a cheap overnight leccy rate with Ocotpus which is when I charge (home 7KW ac charger installed). Costs peanuts compared to petrol/diesel.
    for the same cost of 1 litre of fuel i get around 70miles in the winter and 80 in the summer, so equivalent 315-360mpg cost-wise.
    Most of my daily journeys (95%) are around 30 miles total so I charge approx every 2-3 days.
    i have saved over £10k in 6yrs on fuel costs, insurance, tax (zero) & maintenance compared to my previous petrol car which was economical.
    You wanna travel further than the cars range & don’t want to use the charging network, then hire a car for the day(s). What you save over a year of 95% driving will far far outweigh the cost of hiring a car. I save around £2k/yr, so a car hire of £50/day if needed still leaves me way better off. I’d never go back to ICE, and the ‘you need 700 miles of range, and a full charge in under 30 mins’ brigade are extremely short sighted.
    fishmaster's avatar
    The i3 as I mentioned in another post on this deal is one of the best EV drivers cars out there. So many people love them. They can suffer catastrophic failures though in terms of drive train mounts, leading to drive train failure and the aircon compressor failing is also a truly massive repair cost. It is no surprise that a BMW has BMW repair costs. Which is why I recommend getting a 2019+ model as modifications to these critical points of failure have been made by BMW.

    r/BMWi3 has a lot of info on which models to avoid and which to buy. They say 2017 and later but some people say 2019 and later. Early cheap ones I would definitely avoid. I would also use Wisely Automotive as they are i3 specialists although they don't have m/any currently as once they get them they sell.
  3. mocmocamoc's avatar
    I have a 2018 one, got it for 10k. Nice car to drive and great if you are happy with the 120ish mile range. It works well for us
    fishmaster's avatar
    Personally I would get the Hyudai iONIQ 1st/2nd gen for around £8-9K. Premium SE spec. It has all the features of the leaf, exceptionally efficient car and superior battery technology that is actively cooled and superior charging. iONIQ uses CCS and not CHAdeMO.

    No brainer to chose the iONIQ over the Leaf. Better efficiency (better range), better charging, better battery longevity Has BLIS, Adaptive Cruise, Reversing cam. Android Auto / Apple Carplay. All the stuff you really need.

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  4. Roboto's avatar
    As someone with zero experience with EVs, does anyone know if battery degradation is a big factor in EV performance? As loads of people are suggesting to get a second hand EV instead, the last thing I want is a 6 year old car battery that can't get me past the driveway before it needs a charge again.
    Sjsjzwzebxxbn_Uajqzszdbx's avatar
    Battery degradation is also a big myth don't confuse this with your android and apple gadget! Some Teslas stil run on 90-95% batteries after 10y+ so you will prob be ok
  5. Ruffuz's avatar
    perfect!
    r9000's avatar
    I find it hard to recommend the Leaf, and I owned to of them and loved both.

    The issue is that Nissan are a pain when it comes to warranty claims for the battery. Most Leafs are fine, but if you are unlucky then Nissan will try its best to avoid even acknowledging the problem.

    It's a real shame because Nissan is actually in a good position. Their dealers and service techs have more experience with EVs than most, and the Leaf is mature technology that is well understood. If they were just more willing to engage when there are problems and get them sorted, this would be a fantastic buy.
  6. amir777's avatar
    Lots of second hand cars less than one year old for sale on auto trader with low mileage I mean electric cars because most people not happy with electric cars maybe in ten years I will buy when battery charging in 30 min fully and range minimum 700 miles
    For me not electric car now
    Sjsjzwzebxxbn_Uajqzszdbx's avatar
    Yeah range 700m of course you need that is your commute 350m one way or are you driving the car to Scotland every weekend? Nonsense! A faster charging capability would indeed be appreciated.
  7. nicholas_collinson's avatar
    Would the Leaf be an upgrade for me?

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    J_WilsonrNA's avatar
    I think a Leaf would be too big a step up for you to handle in one go. Remember being an Audi driver you are in the basement levels for credibility. Think realistic, upgrade to a Dacia, you won't be able to cope with anything else.
  8. BrianButterfield's avatar
    After my mum’s husband’s experience with electric, I know to avoid rather than learning the hard lesson. You’ll spend ages looking for a point to charge that works, when you do it’ll take hours, so you spend more money of coffee than you do charging and then the charge itself is now more expensive than Diesel. On top of that the value drops so much that you’re in negative equity and if anything happens to the car or you want to sell it, you owe them money lol. though no one will buy it cause no one is buying used electric cars and so dealers don’t even want them. 

    The world isn’t ready, maybe in another 20 years. 
    M3NDEREZ's avatar
    Let's just unpack this.. The charge is more expensive than Diesel? Really? REALLY?

    My 320d costs £115 for a full tank of Diesel, while my Tesla costs £24 to fully charge.

    Now, in the interest of transparency, my 320d will average around 400 miles on a full tank, while my Tesla will only do 235. So if we multiply that £24 by 1.7, the Tesla costs £40.80 to do the same number of miles as the BMW. Oh, and I don't 'spend a fortune on coffee at service stations because it charges at work, or at home while I'm asleep.

    Tell me again how electric cars cost more to run and are less convenient..
  9. jonspurs's avatar
    Hey what's your expert opinion on the Porsche Taycan? I know there's a refreshed model due soon but are they worth it 2nd hand and any known issues?
    fishmaster's avatar
    The Taycan has suffered software issues and heater failures. Heater failure should have been covered under recall I believe. You can check outstanding recalls on cars on MOT check websites, enter the Reg # and it should show any outstanding ones. The thing to bear in mind that the Taycan is a £100K - £120K car new. If you get one for £45K it still has the repair costs of a £100K+ car. The depreciation is large on this car so £45K is a bargain but you should bear in mind if there are any significant failures on the car outside of warranty they could end up being very expensive.

    I can refer you to Taycanforum so you can look for common faults. Also consider that on a forum you should expect to see problems/faults because that's where people will go to ask about them. So it doesn't inherently mean the car is unreliable.

    taycanforum.com/forum/
  10. Man_In_The_Mirror's avatar
    Better off getting a 2020 Zoe - 220-240 miles on a full in summer - 170-200 in winter
  11. Des_Doherty's avatar
    I own one of these cars (Nissan leaf 39kw N-Connecta). As Fishmaster states earlier, I would definitely consider a user example, I bought mine used for £11k and got a deal for free servicing for 2 years from a Nissan main dealer, about 12 months ago.
    My car was built in Sunderland and honestly nothing has gone wrong on mine so far, they are very reliable and the running costs are extremely low if you can live with the shortish range.
    I'm with Octopus on their Go tariff, so I pay 9p per KW between 00:30 and 04:30, then 30p per KW for the rest of the day. I just set mine to charge on the cheap tariff using the cars in built timer and we set the washing machine and diswasher to come on at the same time too.
    The N-Connecta if fully loaded with kit too, heated steering wheel, heated seats front and back, plus 360 degree cameras. There's an app you can use to tell the car to pre-warm / defrost or pre-cool in the summer but you have to pay Nissan a subscription fee for this (currently £1.99 per month). It's been a godsend over winter.
    sandspider's avatar
    Paying a subscription to use a feature of your own car would really annoy me. Just a matter of time before they charge a lot more to defrost in winter?
  12. Patsy28's avatar
    Totally agree that the used market has better deals for that money. I have just bought a Peugeot e-2008 GT, 2023 spec, 1,000 miles for £20,500. That’s almost half the list price.
    fishmaster's avatar
    Nice car. You are still going to lose a heck of a lot on that car, but it is far far better than buying new and every car depreciates. At 1000 miles it almost new. I am seeing 4,000 mile for £17,849 from Cazoo on Autotrader and the AT Price Tracker on that is 15% drop. So December 2023 it was up for £20,99, it has had a staggering 13 price drops and is now £3150 down at £17,849. So with that info I'd be haggling with Cazoo to get another few hundred quid or more off. Dunno if you can haggle with Cazoo never bought from them.

    The EV used market is a partial correction from the pandemic inflated pricing due to parts supply chain/logistic issues and also a stagnation in the general public wanting to buy them. They are an absolute no brainer if you can charge from home.
  13. SoCal's avatar
    Under the mandate, which became law on Wednesday, at least 22% of new cars sold by manufacturers in the UK this year must be zero-emission. That generally involves pure electric vehicles (EVs). The threshold will rise annually until it reaches 100% by 2035.

    What does this do to the market. ? If car manufacturers cannot 22% of EV’s..will they have to sell the non EV cars at a higher price so the EV cars ‘look’ cheaper and sell more. Or they have to start selling EV’s at a far lower price, and thus reducing the 2nd hand market straight away. 
    This percentage keeps increasing each year and I do wonder what happens.
  14. cbflazaro's avatar
    With 3 year old zoes with 52kWh battery going for around 10k, I don't see who would justify buying a new 39kWh ev for double that
    Garstonk's avatar
    Leaf is a better car than the Zoe. Leaf will have 5 year warranty on electrical components (battery 8 years), 3-year-old Zoe would only have 1 year warranty left. Zoe boot is tiny, Leaf's is massive.
  15. neekaphillips's avatar
    I had one of these for 4 years, not an awful car but chademo support is getting less and less. Till you've had to wait a good hour for the one chademo serving charger in a bunch of ccs only you haven't really owned a leaf. Range isn't that great, a trip to Plymouth from Exeter would always require a charge before we went home and it can only charge at a max of 50kw, and if you go further in a day if you are on your second or third charge expect it to take a bit longer with consequtive charges. I remember being on a third charge of the day and it estimating we had 180 minutes till 80% which wasn't great.

    But if you stay local and don't go far away that much its not too bad to drive. I'm a wheelchair user so mine had push pull controls fitted and it was quite a fun little car to drive.

    Would I want to be a new owner of one in 2024? Nope.

    But I'm spoilt with my new car, twice the battery and charging in 15 mins. And ccs. I don't miss the leaf at all. But she was a good first ev. Back in 2019.
    RichardAH's avatar
    I'm convinced, even though I didn't need convincing, I don't want or need an EV or Hybrid.
    I'll just chug along to the black pump every 3 months or so for my liquid energy!
  16. Privé's avatar
    EV prices are plummeting thanks to the car thieves and don't get me started about insurance. Welcome to 2024
    Uncommon.Sense's avatar
    I think you are getting confused with JLR vehicles on both counts.
  17. Shockwave.Pyro's avatar
    Electric Cars = Biggest con of the 21st Century (personal opinion)
    fishmaster's avatar
    Without any personal experience it would appear.
  18. MrKrabs's avatar
    Could have picked up a stupidly named Honda eny1 recently for £179 a month with £179 deposit.

    My MY lease ends next year, looking forward to getting a 12 month old EV for £1k thanks to all the Dailly mail and The Sun anti EV articles (edited)
    MrKrabs's avatar
    The offer finished last week

    pistonheads.com/gas…180

    Honda Brindley

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    Could maybe call them and see if they have cancellations.
    I don't post deals on here anymore as the site is run by money grabbing idiots. (edited)
  19. Peter99's avatar
    Decent price but...

    When talking about EV's saving money you must factor in depreciation, which is substantial.

    For example, I purchased a
    Toyota GR 86 just over a year ago and it's now worth the same as when I bought it
    If I had bought an EV I would have lost thousands already
    My other car is a Celica GT four and that actually increases in value every year as well as being admired wherever I drive it.
    Certainly wouldn't get that from
    an EV.
    (edited)
    Early1800's avatar
    comparing a niche sports car (how many did they actually sell in the last few years?) and a 40 year old 'classic' sports car to a new mainstream family bus is not a good comparison.

    Comparisons to similar priced cars such as carollas, qashqais and focus would show mainstream ICE family buses also depreciate like stones from new.
  20. Bobef90's avatar
    Try and MG5 used. 2021. Circa 14k with 4 years warranty left. The leaf is a great car but the range is bad as is the lack of battery cooling.
    fishmaster's avatar
    So many inexpensive choices now on the used market. Look at Citroen e-C4 used prices £14K for example. Vauxhall Mokka-e is the same. Personally the iONIQ 1st/2nd gen Premium SE spec is the bargain EV for £9-10K out there. Fully loaded, all the ADAS you need. Said it all above anyway.

    BMW i3 is also cheap and an excellent drivers car, really highly rated for this. But it has BMW repair costs so really you need a 2019 and above as some of the common vastly expensive costs have been fixed on those models. Such as drive motor mount failure, drive train failure, air con failure (also very bad as it cools the battery system. If it fails it screws up the whole system at very high cost). Wisely Automotive are the i3 experts buy from them if you want one. The i3S is also very good. But you buy it for fun driving at the risk of getting totalled on repair costs.
  21. cheapasch1ps's avatar
    20k for a little Nissan?? Id expect an Audi SUV for that price (edited)
    steveieboy1's avatar
    Yeah you could buy a 7 year old Audi Q5 and at least the indicators won’t be worn out.
  22. wasntme's avatar
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    spaceinvader's avatar
    I know you're just joking but reminds me, I actually looked into some of the spate of car fire stories in the media in recent months, whilst media implied it was an electric car in all cases (usually without directly stating it if you read it carefully), in 9 or 10 cases, none were actually caused by an ev, most by diesels. So much FUD out there a lot of people think they're actually a high risk, but you're much more likely to have a fire in a combustion car.
  23. Wolves38's avatar
    Have the 62kwh one of these. With a cheap overnight tariff costs a few pence per mile , get 220 miles in summer and around 190 in the winter It’s not the most modern of cars but it is surprisingly big and spacious. Agree 2nd hand prices for EVs are falling and some real bargains at the moment. Maintenance really is cheap, brakes last forever due to regen braking, serving is almost half the cost of ICE and EVs are great to drive Although would say having a home charger is key to a great EV experience. Just my 2p.
    nazx's avatar
    Is that the e+ ? You getting 220 in summer - seems quite low??
  24. terriertom's avatar
    Buy a low mileage petrol car and forget about charge points and battery range and enjoy a manual gearbox while you can.
    Bigby's avatar
    By all means get an ICE car that costs £60 for a full tank of petrol, instead of an electric which you could charge for like £3 at home.
  25. spaceinvader's avatar
    Just got back from Australia, made me realise how absolutely extortionate buying and running a car is in this country. You wouldn't believe the difference.

    BYD Atto, UK £38,000 approx.
    BYD Atto, AUS £25,000 approx.

    Not sure if sales tax is included but it's 10% in South Australia

    Road tax around £125 on most cars, insurance about £200 most cars, fuel abut 80p-£1 a litre.

    Decent used cars cost next to nothing.


    Now way you can cut it that will convince me we're not being severely shafted.
    paulde2007's avatar
    Well uk a few years back was the only country in history to impose a financial sanction on itself ha ha. So that's a big part of why things are more expensive.. but at least people knew what they were voting from.

    (Not my words to describe uk, but the head of hmrc)
  26. XNET's avatar
    Does anyone know how much a Kw hr is, I get around 125 miles for 10litres of petrol in winter and around 140 in summer in a Toyota hybrid, trying to work out the cost.
    TheOneAndOnly's avatar
    not sure of the question but my 2014 nissan leaf at the moment is doing 3.5m to the kwh. We have a night tariff of 10p/kwh. so in theory we pay 3p a mile on night charge and about 10p/m if we charge at home during the day (30p/kwh). If out and about you will have to pay a lot more.
    Depending on the weather this can vary a bit.
  27. amir777's avatar
    All electric car losing valuation in first year I heard many people selling them so think first if you just want use it for short trips it is ok but even for short trips hybrid much better for example toyota Prius anyway I would not buy fully electric car maybe after ten years if the make better And would buy just Toyota nothing else .
    paulde2007's avatar
    Hybrids aren't much better and evs are great for long trips.

    So the great thing about an ev is the huge moge (far better than any hybrid) and the cheap fuel.

    A benefit of an ice car is the long range of a car (some are 500 tp 600)

    A hybrid gives you a small range and low powered engine for the majority of the time (thus not the benefits of an ice car) it then gives a smaller version of ev benefits but only about 1/10th of the time. Add to that they huge environmental impact, health impact, hugher purchase cost with less benefit back, higher maintenance costs and the fire risks. An ev is the lowest. An ice car is 60x that and a hybrid is 120x.

    Add to that longer charge times which then dramatically impacts on public chargers.

    Not to mention the fact that Toyota has been banned in some countries for its misleading claims of "self charging" ultimately its a 90% petrol car and 10% generator..

    Toyotas business model is quickly failing too. Thwy momentarily became better with the change of ceo but the choices they make (and are activity telling us they make) are putting the company in huge difficulties. Even the ev (as in 100%) was dodgy. It had one of the worst winter range degradation of all evs. Their range estimations were way way way noerboard meaning that not knly did range go down quicker, but people ran out of charge with 20% showing on the gauge. Instead of fixing it, Toyota simply removed the buffer on the battery. This buffer is used to protect the car and battery (and occupants) . I say this as an owner of more toyoras than any other brand. Its sad though that they, like vw aren't the company they were 20+ years ago.

    I now how 2 evs which blow toyptas and hybrids out the water.
  28. Fogg1969's avatar
    It's a good deal if you're buying yourself a company car... The whole 100% capital allowances and BIK advantages to EVs mean you could lower next year's tax bill by ~£8k+ depending on your marginal tax rate... So in terms of cashflow you're effectively geting the thing for £12k.

    That said, for £20k I'd rather have a 3yr old Tesla Model 3. It's a much better car all round, and benefits from Tesla's supercharging network.

    I've had 3 Leafs and one Telsa, I won't be getting any more Leafs. (edited)
    steveieboy1's avatar
    Yeah it’s a great deal if the business can buy it. Even better charging at work… A Tesla would be new as no capital allowance for used cars. You can use the open Tesla network with any EV.
  29. saitama_fan's avatar
    I have free electric, what would be the best car for me 😁
    Early1800's avatar
    A V8 petrol Range Rover, use the money saved from your free eletric supply to enjoy life rather than have milk float range anxiety.
  30. scorpiostar's avatar
    After driving the Audi Etron for 3 years, I can say that if you are only looking for a city runner or only plan on driving up to 100 miles, then these cars are a great choice. As soon as you turn the AC on you can see range going down. Personally, I would feel more at ease taking a trip from Manchester to Birmingham or Birmingham to London if the car had a range of over 300 miles.
  31. Lachudrak's avatar
    Test the EMF in this car
    bluesxman's avatar
    I hear it's unbelievable
  32. KingCampo's avatar
    The range on these is pathetic, but if you very rarely drive more than 100 miles at a time then this is an excellent deal.
    paulde2007's avatar
    99.6% of uk trips are less than 100 miles. So on this, it's fine for nearly everyone ha ha
  33. Mike_Mullar's avatar
    This or the new GTR :/
  34. HottestDeal's avatar
     summed this up perfectly. If you buy new, you’re burning cash.

    Also, Nissan is awful. If you want a car in this class get a Kona, E-Niro.

    If you must have new, go for a lease, there was was an excellent deal on the Honda e:ny1. About £200 pcm with £0 upfront.
    spenspuma's avatar
    Can you show me where I can get a brand new E-Niro for £20k.

    Thanks
  35. meibf's avatar
    I leased this car for 3 years. For the daily commute, this is perfectly fine. For occasional longer trips, range anxiety is a real thing. It is difficult to find a charger. Except for free chargers at supermarkets (gone now), all other chargers I used were not pleasant experiences. Now I bought a second-hand Hyundai Kona (unfortunately before the recent price crash), and feel so much better. The battery is much bigger and the efficiency is higher. 300 miles are easily achievable during summer. I haven't needed to use a public charger once. And if I need one, CCS is much more widely available than CHAdeMO.
    jazzuk777's avatar
    These have CCS as well as CHAdeMO. Never used CHAdeMO yet.
  36. LeeFauxe's avatar
    Buying an EV brand new is a little bit stupid. Battery technology is improving and changing almost at a yearly basis. By the time you've bought one brand new it's already going to be outdated in six months.
    Smoggy1970's avatar
    Cool story
  37. The_Hoff's avatar
    Joke car for a joke price.
  38. chapchap's avatar
    Looking forward to these next gen batteries- then fully electric cars will be a genuine alternative for motorists.
  39. Aeschylus's avatar
    We nearly went leaf but chademo charging is being phased out and Nissan stop selling this year. 

    most new chargers are now 10 CCS and one chademo. In a few years they won’t build any. Chademo is the Betamax to VHS (CCS)

    however if you only ever charge at home ignore this
    i got an Egolf in the end. Depsite them being like hens teeth they are easily the best electric car VW have made to date. The quality is really good. Esp compared to the plastic ID range. 

    just a shame everyone hates them 😄 (edited)
    adrianmc's avatar
    Did you know you can get an adapter.
  40. TMagic's avatar
    got one of these through salary sacrifice - well worth my £250 a month - think in the 5 months ive had this we have put £80 in my Diesel Tucson and charging this has cost me like 80

    would of easily done £140 a month in fuel between both my cars before.

    would of been cheaper but i have an old 19p KWH energy tarrif
    Rob_Samsung's avatar
    So before it was £140. Now it's £160 (£80 + £80).

    I'm lost on this one.
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