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Raleigh Motus Tour Bosch Mid Drive Ebike 56cm Pink £1,268.99 delivered @ Evans Cycles

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Half price. OK niche size and colour, but for tall ladies or tall guys who like pink, Bosch mid drive powered ebike 56cm size only size (suits 5ft 10in to 6ft 2in)

Also available at House of Fraser which Topcashback pays 5.5% (£68)

houseoffraser.co.uk/bra…907

Currently cheapest new Bosch Mid Drive bike for sale ?

ABOUT THE MOTUS TOUR DERAILLEUR GEAR ELECTRIC LOW STEP

  • Perfect for city cycling and long-haul rides alike, the Motus Tour gives you everything you want from an electric hybrid bike, and does so in style. With a silent Bosch motor providing up to 250% of your pedal power, you can race up hills like they’re nothing – no heavy breathing or bike pushing necessary. If you’re looking for more of a workout, a handy control panel lets you kick things up (or down) a notch, with a display screen to help you track your journey.


    Weekend adventures, morning commutes, coffee runs, lunch dates – whatever the journey, whatever the destination, the Motus Tour will make getting there a blast. All you need to do is plan a route, hop on, and bike until the snacks run out.




KEY FEATURES
  • The 400WH fully integrated battery will allow you to ride for up to an impressive 80 miles on a single charge.
  • Re-engineered Active Line Motor from Bosch - feather light and quiet. The newly re-designed Active Line motor is 25% smaller than its predecessor, weighs in at a feather light 2.9kgs and is almost completely noise free so you can get the maximum enjoyment out of your journeys.
  • Bosch displays show everything you need to know whilst riding. The sophisticated Intuvia Display offers maximum clarity and convenience with the display screen placed in the centre of the handlebars for easy readability and the control unit is safely on the left handlebar.



SPECIFICATIONS
Frameset
  • Frame: Aluminium 6061
  • Fork: RST Volant 50mm travel

Wheels
  • Rims: Raleigh Alloy Double Wall
  • Hubs: QR aluminium hub 36H
  • Tyres: 700c x 50 Schwalbe Road Cruiser Plus

Drivetrain
  • Pedals: Raleigh 'Anti Slip' Resin
  • Crank: 38t chainring with 170mm crank arm
  • Front Derailleur: N/A
  • Rear Derailleur: Shimano Tourney 8 speed
  • Shifters: Shimano 8 Speed
  • Chain: KMC x8 8 speed
  • Bottom Bracket: Bosch Integrated in motor
  • Rear Cogs: Shimano 8 speed cassette 11-34t

Components
  • Handlebar: Aluminium comfort handlebar 640mm
  • Grips: XLC ergonomic comfort grips
  • Stem: Aluminium Adjustable Stem
  • Brakes: Shimano MT200 Hydraulic disc brake, 160mm
  • Brake Levers: Shimano MT200 Hydraulic
  • Saddle: Selle Royal Saddle
  • Seatpost: Aluminium 38.1mm
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  1. bonzobanana's avatar
    bonzobanana
    Looks awful to me, its got a low power 40Nm Bosch motor the same type used to prevent early destruction of hub gears (Nexus etc) but here its low power I guess because its protecting a very basic Tourney drivetrain. You lose about 2Nm of power through the chain with mid-drive but also the lowest gear here is 38 front and 34 rear which means 40Nm is actually 38Nm and then 38Nm x 34/38 which means about 34Nm peak torque so this provides less assistance than most hub motors but you also have all the extra complexity of a mid-drive motor plus some accelerated drivetrain wear. The highly proprietary nature of such ebikes can be very expensive to maintain.

    It's got a RST fork which are pretty much impossible to get service parts for like seals so it has a finite life.

    I've bought bikes from Sports Direct in the past but they were reliable simple bikes where I could do all the maintenance myself without issue. Buying a complicated unreliable proprietary ebike from them is another matter. Buying a Bosch motor based ebike often requires good local support.

    What is the point anyway here, its a gutless version of mid-drive motors, the whole point of mid-drive for me is to get high torque output combined with low gearing to give exceptional hill climbing ability which is mid-drive e-mountain bikes not this. It's like all the disadvantages of mid-drive and none of the advantages. The only advantage it is left with is the torque sensor for applying power but the Suntour HESC system on many Halfords ebikes which uses a hub motor has that and the hub motor has a peak output of 65Nm much better than this for hill climbing.

    I could be wrong about this but I think this is a more basic mid-drive motor too which more drag on the crank and power switches off if the cadence gets too high. There's no clutch mechanism I think so is more limited by cadence and more noticeable drag than even a direct drive hub motor. Maybe this gives it reliability advantages over the more powerful and sophisticated Bosch motors but just makes it even more inferior to a hub motor and still less reliable than those.
    LadyEleanor's avatar
    LadyEleanor
    Agree with the pinch of salt comment.

    There is far more speculation than actual knowledge. The advantage of a mid drive is that it gets to operate in a more efficient manner increasing both climbing ability and distances.

    A main negative though is the fact that Bosch batteries are expensive. (edited)
  2. fadsarmy's avatar
    fadsarmy
    Same owner.
  3. lbeeb's avatar
    lbeeb
    Just a heads up, I bought a couple of bikes from them last week, the delivery was ment to be a few days ago on next day delivery and I still have no received anything, doesn't look like they have even dispatched them. Have contacted them a couple of time within them saying they will get back to me, but still nothing, it has been very poor ser service, especially the amount of money I have spent.
  4. LadyEleanor's avatar
    LadyEleanor
    Mid motors use your gears and thus have far more hill climbing ability than hub motors.
    This means a 40nm motor,with the right cassette, could manage a 25% hill. But at half the burst speed of a 80nm motor.

    Yes, mid motors are 'normally' overrated and over priced. As are some branded hub motors.
    bonzobanana's avatar
    bonzobanana
    Yes you could replace the rear cassette with something with a larger rear cog although you might need to replace the rear derailleur with something with a longer cage but of course the speed will slow down a lot going up hill but will give you more torque but there are three issues firstly putting too large a rear cog could damage the rear freehub as it will deliver more torque to it which could be out of specification plus the motor has a maximum assistance cadence of 100 so you can't go too high for cadence or the motor assistance will stop. Then I guess the torque sensor may show a reduction in torque which might drop the motor assistance level so you end up with no benefit. Maybe this can be adjusted in the settings I don't know.

    However effectively as sold its only about 32Nm you are only marginally going to improve the situation and will lose your warranty which is critical on a Bosch ebike as they can be very problematic. You'd have to wait the 2 to 3 years of the warranty before modifying it. If everything went perfectly fitting a cassette with a 48T rear cog could up the torque to 48Nm but you would be going at 2/3rds of the speed as you did before with a 32T rear cog but I suspect there would be many issues including cutting out every time you hit 100 cadence which is much easier with lower gearing. I'm a heavy rider and my peak cadence is about 90 as I'm more of a masher/grinder but many cyclists easily go above 100 cadence. About 130 cadence is about the maximum anyone can achieve I think. That's slightly over 2 revolutions per second.

    Also it should be pointed out that this ebike has large 700c wheels with thick tyres so this reduces the torque in actual use. The larger the wheel the less the torque as the torque is measured at the crank for mid-drive motors and at the hub for hub motors. However by decreasing the wheel size you increase torque hence why many cargo bikes have 20" wheels to boost effective torque of the motor either mid-drive or hub motor. 622+2x50 is 722mm compared to 406+2x50 is 506mm so roughly speaking a 20" wheel gives a 40-50% increase in torque compared to 700c everything else being equal. (edited)
  5. rugman's avatar
    rugman Author
    Max speed 15.5mph assisted, unassisted as fast as you can pedal down the steepest hill you can find !
    Use this tool as a guide to range

    bosch-ebike.com/en/…ant

    If anyone is after more power and 50% bigger battery this is not a bad deal either albeit £1800 after cashback

    evanscycles.com/bra…624 (edited)
    jamesdew's avatar
    jamesdew
    Do you honestly think those two bikes appeal to the same person?
  6. skip112's avatar
    skip112
    Shame not another color same price
    melted's avatar
    melted
    Might make it less attractive to a bike thief.
  7. Ross_Colebrook's avatar
    Ross_Colebrook
    Don't touch Evans with a barge pole. My 'new' motus turned up at store damaged with Frayed cables. They didn't have cables to fix and couldn't tell me when. This is after a week of waiting and hearing nothing about my order. I had to phone store to find out if it had arrived. There is also no way to contact Evans on the it's webchat or email only.
    Besford's avatar
    Besford
    It's the Ashley way unfortunately. Not the company it used to be.
  8. LadyEleanor's avatar
    LadyEleanor
    bosch-ebike.com/en/…ine


    'Its controlled acceleration with barely noticeable pedal resistance at over 25 km/h or when switched off turns every trip into a delight, as well as making an elegant statement. The Active Line is a recipient of the Red Dot Design Award'


    By buying the light pink model you are saving £500 or even more, making a mid drive bike hit hub motor price territory.
    bonzobanana's avatar
    bonzobanana
    As already pointed out this is a mid-drive motor with far less hill climbing performance than most hub motors plus all the disadvantages of a proprietary mid-drive motor and battery. If you wear out the motor, the whole bike goes to landfill as not economically worth replacing, If the battery fails replacements are hugely expensive and if the frame cracks again the whole bike goes to landfill as the motor and frame are designed for each other. Replacement frames often cost more than the actual whole ebike was new. It's a throwaway product compared to most hub motor ebikes. The way you have written your text it makes it sound like you are getting something better but in this instance you are getting something inferior to most hub motor ebikes. This is not a good example of a mid-drive ebike.

    When anyone buys this bike and realises how poor it is what chance have they got of returning it to Evans and getting a full refund? About as pleasant a procedure as getting kicked in the nads and pushed down a flight of stairs. This really needs a test ride before purchase and comparison with a few other similar priced ebikes. It is not a good blind purchase.
  9. tawse57's avatar
    tawse57
    @bonzobanana

    I have read your posts with interest. I agree about your comments re the lack of torque on this bike. Ditto the expense of a Bosche ebike if the battery or motor fails.

    I am curious to what size motor you have as a rear hub in your bikes?

    I live in Swansea - you are either going up or down a hill most of the time - and have seen many Tongsheng and Bafang 250 watt mid-motors simply not cope with the gradients we have locally. The Bosche motors appeal because, as you mentioned, there appears to be a blind eye turned to them being to 'burst' 500 watts. (I suspect that the blind eye is turned because Angela Merkel is said to have taken a keen interest in the EU e-bike laws and, um, Bosche is German.).

    I have toyed with buying a 500 watt Bafang or Tongsheng motor but, hey, that would then be illegal to use. Hence, whilst I see the downsides of the Bosche ebikes, their appeal is that the 65nm torque and higher ones have enough grunt to get me up Welsh hills. Rear-hub ones have not really appealed as I like the more natural cycling that a mid-motor gives me. But then I rode briefly a Carrera rear-hub up a hill and it just pushed me up it.

    I would be interested in your thoughts.
    rugman's avatar
    rugman Author
    A legal Bafang BBS01 250w mid motor at 15amps has 80nM of torque and will push out up to 540w at 15a (they can be programmed to run at 18amps - 648w) and with the right gearing ( 40t chainwheel and say a 11-42 rear cassette) will get you up anything in Swansea (edited)
  10. EloiseJones's avatar
    EloiseJones
    Amazing deal
  11. bevers03's avatar
    bevers03
    Pity I’m short… big of rattle can I’d of bought this 🥲
  12. shanecr's avatar
    shanecr
    Bargains like this on e-bikes are rare.
  13. Going_Digital's avatar
    Going_Digital
    Not sure how they could have made it any uglier.
    Robdataff's avatar
    Robdataff
    A delightful basket on the front maybe?
  14. Richard_Mathews's avatar
    Richard_Mathews
    Hows the mid drive I've heard that they are nylon gears an can wear out and getting service is not easy?
    ohreally's avatar
    ohreally
    There are service kits available for most motors.
  15. royaltee's avatar
    royaltee
    Looks pretty great to me
  16. Captain.Scarlet's avatar
    Captain.Scarlet
    Been told to get an e-bike & I was wondering what recommendations you guys would give, affordable/reliable/range of course... Thank you
    DanielMansey's avatar
    DanielMansey
    Raleigh Array sits around £1000
  17. Joshfount's avatar
    Joshfount
    Great price for a decent spec e-bike just a shame about that colour! Maybe worth a respray :/ ♨️
    Robdataff's avatar
    Robdataff
    I'm thinking a wrap. Vinyl, not KFC mind.
  18. Shaftydude's avatar
    Shaftydude
    What's the range and speed for this electric bike?
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