Love the temp in this thread...keeps my ice cream cold...
Fairtrade prices? Which planet do you live on? I bet you've never step foot outside your town. Who decides what's fair trade? What stops a farming community in a little village in Brazil from offering lower or better price to another farming community miles down the road? Consumers should decide what to pay. Are you willing to pay higher price for products? Assuming, your lots band together to decide what price to pay for vanilla the Jerry brothers use in their overpriced ice cream , are you aware that the ideas will disadvantage another farming community in another city let alone country? If a kilo of banana is $1 Fairtrade price in Peru and the Fairtrade price is 50cent in Ghana, one of these poor communities has to lose. Sorry but giving money to corrupt countries is a big part of the problem. You have no idea what capitalism is. You see the man with a Van blokes, small business owners, the corner shop owners, the people that invested their life savings to start successful business etc, that is capitalism. OK? All you think is the bankers. Guess who runs the bank, its the establishment. The banking crash was caused by politicians passing laws making it easier for banks to lend money to anyone to buy a house. Buy big massive house they couldn't afford. Sorry but you are massively uniformed. Most people chose zero hour contracts as it suits them. I can give bunch of examples.
Or they can pay their producers Fairtrade prices so that those communities can build their own homes, schools, clinics and not have to rely on aid that's usually organised so that western multinationals can screw even more money from the poor; employ people in proper, fairly paid jobs so that they can afford to pay tax rather than in zero hour minimum wage jobs that are subsidised by the taxes the rest of us pay; etc. Anyone who thinks capitalism works just fine after the banking crash in 2008 trashed the economies of the west needs a reality check.
They should put their money where their mouth is, sell the product at cost or give it away, give their multi million dollars away, buy homes, build hospitals, schools, affordable homes, create paradise on earth, then I'll take the hypocrites serious. The Jerry brothers are enjoying the fruit of capitalism yet always criticise the system. Capitalism works just fine, have an idea, put into motion, employ people, pay them wages and, invest in making your business stronger. What is a fair wage? There is nothing like that nonsense. It only makes sense at an individual level, but still it's a lot of baloney.
Being socialists it means they pay everyone involved, from those who produce the raw ingredients to their workers who produce the finished product, a fair wage for their labours. It's not really that difficult to comprehend for anyone who understands how capitalism works.