Tbh all tvs around this price point will be largely similar. I went for the lg because of the ridiculous deal on the 50 inch (£239) yesterday but any will be good
I’ve always liked Sony
Have the 40".The processor is glaringly subpar. The rest is fantastic: upscaling 720p/1080p, 4k image quality, sound much better than samsungs.
Stick to sony. Known brand unlike onkyo (y) If you want budget then get the au9000 from Costco. Of not a member then find a friend and get then to order online. I still have my friends login on my laptop from when he let me buy some tyres :D
I got this email from them this morning. Not sure if panny or vestel I think dumb reviewers should be banned from site and their review struck out (lol)
I did say the 4K resolution and weight/thickness was an advantage. Other features can be added through an inexpensive smart tv box. Just to be clear though I never said this LED is bad, it's a good deal if it suits your requirements. It's not nonsense because the Plasma can upscale better, has better viewing angles, better contrast and better motion handling.
I think that's nonsense.On black levels yes.But the resolution alone will be quite an upgrade let alone other features of this tv.
Not as good as a 10 year old plasma?
Yep I thought so for a large tv & a “proper " Panasonic.
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Fuji have been doing 10bit for yonks and the autofocus is ok (not perfect but not as bad as sony fanboys like to make out)
35 for talking head. 50 just for general shots. Tbh 85 is the best focal length no question. If you're planning on sticking with L-mount get the 50 to begin with. Then work down. 24 is my least used but still an incredible lens that I'm glad I opted for.
That’s exactly why I didn’t pull the trigger on this during the Easter sales when they were practically giving this camera away with spare battery, grip, lens and even a gimbal, I was very close to buying but the autofocus was the deciding factor. I’m actually glad I didn’t buy because the recent announcement of the Canon R10 & R7 shows that finally someone is taking Apsc cameras seriously. All I’ve ever wanted for years was a 10-bit video apsc camera with great autofocus in the £1000 range. If they can put prores video in an iPhone surely they can put it in a apsc camera and not charge the earth.
Yeah, looks like the voucher can no longer be applied to this variant. Expired!
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Does it have Freesat?
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If you are not invested in micro 4/3 system, this is (for an extra £260) probably much better option - https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/panasonic-lumix-s5-full-frame-mirrorless-camera-w-20-60-mm-lens-3939872
The pictures i have taken on the M4/3rds are outstanding i hope it does not be discontinued ...any tips on a good camera i can own as a second camera i have the GX7
Being this is a video focused camera, the background blur is massively in this cameras favour v's other formats. You can run wider apertures and keep more depth in focus. Agree about the format likely to die. Which is a pity, I only sold mine coz fuji mind controlled me. MFT is awesome.
Not a great option for photos, it is heavily video centric. The G9 is Panasonics top micro 4/3rds photo camera. Performance is similar but the G9 is a better package overall for photos. The G5 has been replaced my the G5ii and G6. The G9 is getting quite old now and is due replacement. I don't have great faith in the survival of micro four thirds, the market is dying steadily and Olympus was sold off recently but is struggling on with its new owners. Now that isn't a major issue overall as there are so many lenses available but new bodies may dry up and the system be mothballed in the future. Sony or Canon look better long term bets if that's important to you. M4/3rds is a smaller sensor than full frame and you have to weigh up what works for you. Images are typically lower resolution, more noise and less dynamic range - in good light it's not a problem. In poor light it can become an issue, especially if you're shooting moving objects like kids/parties/animals etc. The big upside is the lenses are much smaller, particularly longer lenses and they cost less than FF equivalents overall. You can get substantially more background blur on FF, which is nice for portraits in particular but you run into the issue of the area in focus being so small that you can't get everything you want in focus without closing the lens aperture down which negates the benefits of FF pretty much. I've used micro four thirds for many years and recently added FF. The difference is not staggering for the most part. I've kept my G9 as the long lenses in particular are massive and hugely expensive on FF.
Micro 4/3. It is excellent for photos, although you will get different opinions from those who take photos more professionally and they would probably want a full frame for more light etc. GH5 is more geared towards video, but make no mistake, the photos are great. The benefit of Micro 4/3s is also lens size, portability etc.
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Exactly. The much bigger (and deeper) colour range on 4K discs is usually the most noticeable improvement over Blu-rays - not the resolution. And then there's the vastly improved contrast, black levels and grain handling etc. And it depends on the display you are using and the player too. Screenshots will not tell you the whole story by a long shot. Totally agree with you about the youtube reviewers too. The slating they get from people that know better is hilarious! XD
No. There is so much more to it than just the number of pixels, as I briefly described above. From the source material right through the mastering chain down to how it’s encoded, it all makes a difference. Judge each presentation on its own individual merits and read reviews from trusted members of the community sites like AVforums/Blu-ray.com that have no monetary incentive/lack of knowledge (like most of the YouTube reviewers). You will soon get to know the reviewers/individual members who’s views towards a release most closely align with your own. Just be aware that the most knowledgable reviewers often do the most nitpicking, but that’s not to say a release is bad, it can still look phenomenal and often this will be the consensus that follows despite the odd flaw here and there.
Avforums can be subjective too, but thanks for helping. Do you think my real 4k site is accurate?
Great price, great equipment...... Err just great.
The thing the fake 4K brigade fail to take into account is that 4K offers not just better spatial resolution but also colour resolution (4x I think) and HDR in most cases, so even an upscale will benefit massively from the format over standard Blu if mastered well. I think as TVs continue to improve the benefits of 4K will become more noticeable too, we’ve not maxed out the potential fully and if you don’t have a top tier display you will be missing out somewhat, but eventually even budget TVs might catch up.
Lots of games including Black Ops Cold War render at WQHD and 120hz, not just 1080p, so that is twice the resolution still. I have an HDMI 2 TV capable of 120hz 1080p and a HDMI 2.1 TV both hooked up to PS5s. It is a real pain messing around with settings to play some games at 1080p 120hz and others at 4K 60hz on the TV with HDMI 2.0 also no VRR. None of this tech is essential and part of cutting edge technologies is to be able to get the best out of equipment. TVs input lag uncreases when showing a 1080p 120hz signal compared to the 4k 120hz signal due to the upscaling the TV has to do. Not a lot but it is still an increase.
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For anybody considering getting a Panasonic JZ series TV and intend to game, I suggest you wait. The JZ series has issue with 120Hz and VRR via both consoles. The PS5 doesn't recognise the JZ series TVs as being 120Hz and only offers VRR between 48-60Hz. Games such as Dirt 5 are locked at 120Hz (a contradiction to the information the PS5 offers via its own dashboard) and as such VRR does not work. Via the Xbox, when 120Hz, VRR and uncompressed sound over HDMI (PCM) are enabled then the user suffers intermittent sound drops and/or picture break-up. Until this is resolved by Panasonic, I would not consider either the outgoing JZ series or the incoming LZ series. I have the JZ2000, both next-gen consoles and have a support ticket open with Panasonic, as do lots of other owners over on AVForums. If you don't intend to game, the picture quality via the JZ1500 is peerless. Heat for the deal OP (y) .
There's a difference between rendering resolution and display resolution. A game can be rendered at less than 4K resolution and will still be output in 4K resulting in a 4K signal from the console. Therefore, to play that game at 120Hz, you need an HDMI 2.1 port to support the 4K120 input signal.
HDMI 2.0 easily supports 120hz/1080p though @PhoenixRising advises HDMI 2.1 is still required to display 120hz even if it's not 4k ? FYI there are approx 25 120hz PS5 games, 17 lower than 4k, mostly 1080p The 8 120hz/4k games are Gunborg, Centipede Recharged, Knockout City, Monster Boy, The Touryst, Jumangi Quake, Rogue Company, all non top title, arcade, old remake games
Thanks, I have learnt a lot from your posts on this thread!
A 100hz TV is better news than a 60hz TV for most people because for 50fps content that's broadcast, each frame can be displayed twice, reducing the perception of flicker. The other advantage is 100hz provides more opportunities for frame interpolation to work, compared with just 60hz refresh rates. Most newer TVs advertised as 100hz can do 120hz, yes that's correct. However, some older/early TVs advertised as 100hz can't. Those true 100hz TVs cannot display 24fps content judder-free. I agree marketing terms have not helped people understand why it makes a difference between 60hz, 100hz and 120hz panels. Personally I wouldn't buy any TV that doesn't clearly specify that it's 120hz capable, because I have so much 24p content. That said, just 100hz is better news than a 60hz panel, for the reasons I've stated.
The principle that man spoke about on Reddit has not changed in 11 years. It's like saying the theory of gravity is out of date because it's described in a 50 year old text book! It's becoming clear you don't understand the rubrics here. Look at the source you posted, it says: "A 60Hz TV has trouble removing 24 fps judder because 60 isn't a multiple of 24." It then goes on to explain why a 3:2 pulldown is used to display 24 fps content on a 60hz screen, and how that inevitably introduces judder. So your own source confirms not only what I said and what the Reddit post said, but also disproves what you claim when you erroneously said there is no functional difference between 60hz, 100hz and 120hz panels. I cannot be more clear with you:- 120hz panels enable judder-free playback of 24fps content which cannot be achieved on 60hz and 100hz panels. 120hz playback of 24fps uses a judder-free 5:5 pulldown. Should I say it in a different way if it helps? Can't you see that 24 divides as whole numbers into 120 but not into 100 or 60?
If you're still in any doubt read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Filmmakers/comments/obh2i/comment/c3g32ry/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
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The Hisense HS214 from Amazon or AO. Its quite smaller then others and like £77 on amazon so can't expect much, it has very decent reviews. https://www.avforums.com/reviews/hisense-hs214-soundbar-review.19123/
Yeah same, Hs214. Just seems a little thin and hollow no matter what preset or bass adjustment I make. It doesn't help that I have a behemoth of a soundbar/sub downstairs which I might be unfairly comparing it too (flirt)
Which one? I've got the Hisense HS214 and it seems decent enough to me.
After a soundbar. Any recommendations? Brand New and a budget of £100. Willing to pay 30 or so quid extra if its worth it
Anyone have any experience with this? Just bought a hisense bar for bedroom but can't say I'm impressed with that
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Not everything's a Vestel panel mate
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Funny you say about the overshoot problem. Its worth a look at hdtvtest review on the jz2000 and see how they have fecked up the 2021 models due to the shitey mediatek soc (2.1 hdmi version) they are lumbered with. Last year models have better pq but youve got to have a 2.1 hdmi or you're not in the club.
Just because people prefer the Panasonic does not mean that LG is bad, we’re talking about premium OLED’s from LG, Panasonic, and you can throw Sony into the mix too. I typically exclude Sony though for gaming reasons due to input lag and lacking HGiG support, whereas Panny and LG are much closer in this regard. I have the 2018 Panasonic 65FZ802, I returned the 2018 LG C8 for that due to the flashing blocks or what is now referred to as chrominance overshoot - was an issue primarily in HD streamed content that is of low bitrate. LG have resolved that in their 2021 line-up, but it was a big annoyance for me in 2018 - and Panasonic were top of their game much earlier and resolved that before their 2018 range even hit the market. It is true that Panasonic put out far fewer updates, but that’s because right from launch day they typically have everything working as intended. There’s clearly been some teething issues with the HDMI 2.1 being half resolution for 120Hz at 4K on 2021 sets with the dedicated mediatek chipset. I believe that has been resolved now though. I’ve ultimately ended up with an LG G1 for gaming earlier this year, but had I not pulled the trigger on that I would have certainly snapped up the current JZ1500 deal with heatsink at £1499. There is no right or wrong. I believe my 2018 Panasonic FZ802 displays a better image over the 2021 LG G1 for upscaled 1080p Blu-rays and broadcast TV such as Freeview and SkyQ. I’m also satisfied with the LG G1 and would be non the wiser if we did not have both to compare. They’re both good, the Panasonic is just marginally ahead in PQ terms. From my perspective both Panasonic and LG are great. They have a couple of quirks. LG gets the biggest press coverage due to their US presence, which Panasonic does not have. if you don’t game, I’d recommend the Panasonic. If you do game but only use one 120Hz capable console or PC, then I’d still recommend the Panasonic. If you game across PS5, Series X and PC - then the LG range will offer the least amount of hassle due to 4x HDMI 2.1 ports. My only gripe with LG is their aggressive ASBL - Automatic Static Brightness Limiter. It can really ruin the immersion when watching HDR films/shows in a dark room. I do hope LG will relax this via. an update but it’s a compromise I’ve just decided to accept as this aside, I am otherwise very pleased with the LG G1’s gaming performance and how close it performs to our 2018 Panasonic FZ802.
Should've been a hotter deal IMHO. I think curry's is the off putter.
In the specs bit says 5
What's the warranty on this? Can't see it in the page
Hilarious...after the big hoo-hah of trying to buy at this price yesterday, today I could just walk into the local Curry's & pick one up! Same price at RS too, although they probably won't have any stock.
Looking at getting one of these, the out of the box picture in filmmaker mode is supposedly the most accurate compared to LG, Sony etc
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No the panel is 60hz. The LX650b is a Vestel model. It's still a good price for a TV that has only just been released.
Get the HISENSE 65A7GQTUK QLED around £599 at costco.
Is this 120hz HDMI 2.1?
Thanks, will probably wait then, budget is around £500 for a 55" to 65", I like the QLED ones. I returned the 55" Samsung Q95TD that went hot here as the build quality was shocking and there was screen bleed. Ithought the TV was nice though, quite fast OS and nice colours brightness, I am a complete NOOB on TV's though.
Wow interesting, so a 15% student discount directly from Panasonic would make it £1955. I wonder how it would compare to the LG C2 which is a huge upgrade compared to the C1 and CX
Hmm you're right about the launch price bring higher but it wasn't £2999 (or if it was that must have been because of covid price hikes lol) it was £2299 but after a few months it came down to £1799. I would agree this is an excellent TV & I expect the 2022 models to maybe cost more but who knows, maybe It won't.. we'll know soon
Yes doesn't effect the viewing and I do prefer it to my C1 for movies. The motion is better in my opinion and the picture settings out of the box are far better.
Oh. Well I’m assuming they’re minor since you kept it and prefer it to the LG for content viewing. £899 is a bargain.
I got one for around £400 six months ago and use all the apps listed and it’s ideal for those as well as other android apps. As review below the sound isn’t fantastic but that’s the same across all of the narrower tvs I assume. Tv through the aerial is sometimes slow when switching channels, just a second or so but it is a bit odd when you’re used to it being instant. For the price I’d recommend it
Richer Sounds are a fantastic dealer, and their 6 year warranty gives one year extra cover over Costco's. However, you do get 3 months' no quibble returns with Costco which you won't get with anyone else. I've seen people bringing back knackered, and I mean not used but abused, items back to stores and they always take them back no questions asked. Perhaps a better option if you want to test the TV out for an extended period before making up your mind. Costco customer service is generally impeccable.
Expecting quality sound from a pencil thin led TV is like peeing into the wind. You'll need a sound bar for all but the most expensive and even then it is recommended
Omg run to the hills kids that’s why it’s cheap now ?
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Spot on. That's been very helpful thanks. Shame it's not very easy to search for this specification easily on websites.
They aren't talked about as much because they aren't available in the US, so a lot of the major review sites don't review them. But the HX800B is widely regarded as the best mid range TV available, and their OLED series is also extremely well reviewed. It's of course up to you whether or not you trust Amazon reviews. In my experience though, lots of people give poor reviews for arbitrary reasons such as a long delivery time/shipping damage.
TX65JX800B has 3.5 stars on Amazon, so does another. Many have 5 stars also. Maybe hit and miss. I am not anti Panasonic TVs just not seen them about or talked about much.
Me too though I'd bet your Sony has a DVB-S/S2 tuner built in. I had a look at the other deal posted earlier for the new Panasonic LX650 and that one has the lot DVB-T/T2/C/S/S2.
If you have a problem Panasonic won't help . I bought what I thought was a Morphy Richards microwave from Argos but when I contacted Morphy Richards when it went faulty I got this reply -- " I can confirm that this model is actually an Argos own model which is manufactured under licensing of our name which means we do not actually stock this appliance, nor do we have any parts or further information on the appliance."
I only grill food at the moment, using the grill in a thirty year-old oven. You can grill a plate of fish and veg in about 15 minutes. I am on the lookout for a microwave grill but the reviews usually say the grill is not very good. I use to have a microwave and would microwave and then grill the food using that. I also owned a Silverline grill (looks like a small microwave) which died after two years, as did its free replacement (three year warranty), used twice a day for 20 minutes. With the alarming cost of electricity using an oven as an oven no longer seems viable, it's just a pity that the quality of modern microwaves seems so questionable.
Some manufacturers create a different brand name for their high and low-end products. Panasonic don't - for microwaves! My (stainless interior) Panasonic combi lasted over 20 years. I've replaced it with a (stainless interior) Panasonic Inverter combi - which is a massively better microwave, but not so good as an oven. The oven's problem is that the same element (in the roof) is both grill and oven heater -- this is like the old one's combination of grill and oven, just that now you get that when you just want 'oven' and can't switch off the grill... For the small premium over a straight inverter microwave, the 'oven' is good to have, but not a great oven. These 'slimline' combis pack a bigger turntable into a smaller external footprint. I can understand their thinking, but the separate fan oven element made it usable even for baking bread. The new one toasts the top of the loaf... However, the stainless/inverter Panasonics are much more expensive than this one. And I reckon they will last longer than this one, though maybe not as long as my old Panasonic.
Totally agree, I also have a swan microwave only £49, does the job.
thanks for the info. i had been debating this for a long time. unfortunately the combi's are just too big for where i want it in my kitchen - otherwise I would have done the same (I bought one and took it back). so now I've ended up with a microwave and airfryer. although probs takes more space, its still better for the configuration in my kitchen.