haha, as long as the storage has enough to house the operating system, applications and a few core files I don't need mass file storage on board. Theres cloud storage, networked storage as well as a quick thunderbolt connect to as many 1TB drives as I possibly need. How many people need a crap ton of storage on-board a thin and light? Gaming laptops I understand but not these types. For the few people with that use case, don't buy it jeez. Oh and 8GB on the MacBook acts more like 16gb on a non optimised windows machine. Are you really mad about the PRO word? jeez dude, go cry and get it out your system. Your a big boy and can understand what marketing is. For ports, why have 1 port for 1 job, when you can have 1 port for many jobs. if you don't like the dongle lifestyle then that's your preference dude, go live your best life. most of what I use is wireless, cloud based, network based and for the little I need to plug in there a small cheap adapter. But you go live in 2003. Please link me how your current 'thin and light' is more powerful in CPU and GPU performance than my MacBook LOL. Barely call an Asus laptops with a second screen a thin and light, and all other windows machines either suffer from bad battery life or thermals for the more powerful ones or are low powered and just underperform. Yeah, never been in a business meeting with someone whipping out an MSI or Legion pc lol
"Some people prefer tactile buttons and some people prefer the design language of a cleaner more modern looking device/set-up" - agree 8GB and 256GB looks much cleaner than 1TB. Plus, adding the word PRO to the proposition value, would put an end to all sceptics challenging the design language. "considering this thread is for a 2in1 I5 8gb RAM device" - Only you know what you tried to bring to the table here with this statement.. "rather than for example having a dedicated ethernet port" - Sure when I say ports I obviously refer to ethernet cabling for ultimate portability, great example sherlock. I can already see accidentally stumbling on a train because nearby, people with windows laptops using hard-wired internet connection, and its all ugly wires all over the train. You really want me to point out the "obvious " ones right? "Especially as its CPU is likely far more powerful" - Yeah full of power. iGPU only https://isapplesiliconready.com/ Instead of daily mail. #Design-Language. I "than whatever your currently carrying LOL" - Ufff shivers, I sense too much confidence over sqm. Try national lottery. "I believe there's a Windows 'PRO' thin and light device, no" - Awww don't be a silly sausage, there's a decent range of choice with latest AMD processors and dedicated graphics. You have ultra books with second screens, touch screens, etc, you have Surface line, you have Asus. Shit, almost forgot they don't have an upside-down apple logo on it, and the design language - sorry. "good thin gaming style laptops that are powerful, but not something I would carry around with me" - right..., ugly plastic driving people around you mad, and ultimately screwing up the owner's body-design-language. Not even if we stick an Apple logo on those Asus engravings?
Wow, triggered much. Since you took so much time and effort to try and say my opinion is wrong and 'tried' to be funny in a condescending way let me reply to these 'points' I have a desktop for heavy lifting, so I don't need a decked out laptop with 300 ports on it. A thin and light for me is exactly that, a mobile computing device for light tasks. Im not sure what your referring to with hipsters and 'real work' considering this thread is for a 2in1 I5 8gb RAM device and your complaining about not enough ports for 'real work'? hahaha, like what 'real work' do you think your doing with this thing?? Examples are not 'irrelevant' to my point. Some people prefer tactile buttons and some people prefer the design language of a cleaner more modern looking device/set-up. This is purely subjective to an individual but seen as the industry is moving towards a lack of ports and physical buttons I would suggest you are now in the minority with your preference. Oh and ideas are stolen all the time in the industry, not sure what your point is here....so what? Did I ever say that Apple didn't get the idea from somewhere else? what made you think the decision behind usb-type-c only ports was imposed by the "thin and light" constraint?- In answer to this question, USB C/Thunderbolt ports are one of the smallest ports available and therefore take up less room BUT can be used for a multitude of different uses. rather than for example having a dedicated ethernet port which limits the thickness of a device. Its daunting how many depressed people committed suicide because of ugly sides of the laptop. Ugly ports cause depression, anxiety and ultimately lead to self inflicting damage. Ok dude, I have no words for this attempt at satire. Wasn't even funny. Maybe do better next time. Besides I bet you also prefer 256GB of internal storage and 8GB of RAM for a "PRO" device, after all we're on a mission of keeping things light and thin, 1TB would make the device chunky and heavy. My M1 MacBook suits my mobile computing needs quite nicely thank you. Especially as its CPU is likely far more powerful than whatever your currently carrying LOL. But no, I wouldn't consider this a PRO device for everyone and I have a dedicated desktop for heavy lifting. But I would imagine there's also many professionals who consider the MacBook more than enough for their workloads. Do I believe there's a Windows 'PRO' thin and light device, no, not currently but there are some good thin gaming style laptops that are powerful, but not something I would carry around with me like a 13" MacBook.
"A port can be anything" - it can't without an adapter. First thing to do after you buy a mac is to buy adapters. "sitting there doing nothing 99% of the time" - I don't know what you use your laptop for, but for non hipsters doing real work the ports are used on a daily basis. "but for same reasons Tesla..." - irrelevant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man), different reasons different products. P.S. I hate touchscreen panels in vehicles. Prefer voice control or direct functions indexed by buttons/dials which provide tactile feedback, unlike touchscreens, whilst I'm focused on the road. "and why the iPhone killed a physical keyboard" - apart from this being irrelevant, trying to defend Apple's strategy by pointing at at another invention which Apple stolen but successfully managed to market it? "For a thin and light" - what made you think the decision behind usb-type-c only ports was imposed by the "thin and light" constraint? You're confusing correlation with causation. "...I’d prefer a better looking cleaner design... Rather than having the sides on the PC looking like it’s got a mole infestation" - Its daunting how many depressed people committed suicide because of ugly sides of the laptop. Ugly ports cause depression, anxiety and ultimately lead to self inflicting damage. Besides I bet you also prefer 256GB of internal storage and 8GB of RAM for a "PRO" device, after all we're on a mission of keeping things light and thin, 1TB would make the device chunky and heavy and look like a mole manif......
From a design perspective yes I do prefer. A thunderbolt port can be anything I need it to be rather than having 10 different ports sitting there doing nothing 99% of the time. You may argue, well it’s more convenient to have all these ports already there but it’s for the same reasons Tesla has one control panel and ditched all the buttons and why the iPhone killed a physical keyboard. For a thin and light, I’d prefer a better looking cleaner design that can be made thinner with the use of these modern USB C ports that can be used with any type of dongle to give me any IO I want. Rather than having the sides on the PC looking like it’s got a mole infestation.