Asus ROG Gaming

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Asus ROG Cerberus Bundle £99.98 @ Ebuyer
Found 22nd SepFound 22nd Sep
A decent deal if you are looking for a high-end mouse and keyboard. Keyboard is Asus Cerberus Mech RGB Keyboard that retails for around £95-£110. Mouse is Asus ROG Pugio Mouse that… Read more
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MK90 is a cracking keyboard. The Kaihl red switches used are the equivalent of Cherry Red and you won't know the difference. Unfortunately Asus have just rebranded the accompanying Q-pad software (which is pants) rather than writing their own. I'd recommend only using this software to edit key colours, write macros etc and not allow it to run in the tray at Windows Startup. Since profiles and macros are stored on the keyboard, the only reason for running it all the time is for automatic profile switching, which just doesn't work. It's also worth noting that if you don't need the mouse, you can get an MK-90 on Amazon at the moment for £68.62


Yes I wanted cherry switches (lol) never thought of that before


So, cherry switches...? At least, now? (excited)


Had this before I spilled pepsi max on it it comes with Kaikua switches


I have this bundle from a previous deal on ocUK: keyboard is a great bit of kit but the Mouse is a bit silly; the thumb buttons are structured in such a way that you cannot easily reach the front thumb-button with your thumb (unless you have particularly long fingers); as a result I would not recommend this mouse if you use palm grip for mouse control during gaming.

ASUS PG348Q 100hz 3440x1440 ULTRAWIDE GSYNC MONITOR £864.99 @ Currys
Found 21st SepFound 21st Sep
It's the daddy (allegedly) of last gen 34-inchers, at close to it's lowest ever (£860 I think). Also available at Amazon for £866.99. This may be the first time ever that Currys a… Read more
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It's like my wife used to say 'Once you've had a really wide one, you can't go back.' She left me shortly after.


Excellent monitor, though i am going through a RMA at the moment and i have not heard good things about Asus rma process. Once you game on a ultrawide it is very hard to go back to 16:9.


Good price for an awesome monitor. Still probably the best gaming monitor under £2000




Likewise bought and returned about a year ago for the same issue.

Asus ROG Strix RX VEGA 64 OC edition 8GB HBM2 Graphics Card - £439.98 @ Ebuyer
Found 18th SepFound 18th Sep
With all the hype around Nvidia at the moment, don't forget about this beast of a card! (lol) A great price for an amazing card! VEGA 64 8GB HBM2 Memory Clock 945 MHz Thre… Read more
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This guy allways saying something negative


Yeah, I'll provably end up getting one of these. I want to try it with my freesync 2 monitor. A gtx 970 doesn't really do it justice.


Happy chappy on 1440p, its more than enough for this resolution i think.


Just bought a similar spec Samsung monitor. I was thinking of upgrading to one of these cards from a gtx 970. How do you find this card for running games at 1440p?


Loving it! thanks for posting :)

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ASUS ROG STRIX GL703GS - i7-8750H - 17.3" 3ms 144hz G Sync screen - 16GB DDR4 RAM- 256GB M.2 - 1TB SSHD - GTX 1070 + Free copy of Black ops 4 £1499.97 @ Box
Found 11th SepFound 11th Sep
Seen this posted earlier this month for the same price @ Amazon but if you purchase it from you get a free copy of black ops 4

Do NOT go for the Defiance V, i had a 8750h/1070 and it has nothing but issues. Main issue is the chassis can not cool the CPU anywhere near adequately, i paid for the re paste and the cpu would sky rocket to 95-99c on all cores within 5 minutes of bf1, and to 90c before the game had even begun loading. Tried to repaste it myself even with liquid metal, and a substantial 0.150v undervolt and the it would still thermally throttle almost instantly while playing anything demanding. I contacted PCS about the issues and they advised me they had a new bios that "fixed" the issues, i asked them how it went about that since if the new bios just puts in a power limit or lower thermal limit it is not a "fix" in my eyes. They assured me it didn't and i went about installing the new bios. Surprise surprise all the bios did was lower the thermal limit from 99 to 85 and introduced lower power limits system wide. Supposedly it was also meant to reduced the base line voltage but i did not witness that. So i then had an over heating laptop, just with gimped performance that power throttled as well as thermal throttled. This isn't including all the other issues but i don't want to turn this into a wall of text. I had to argue with PCS when i returned it as they were going to send the laptop back as it didn't crash during a stress test so in their eyes was perfectly fine, after a few back and forth emails they finally agreed to refund it due to the power limit and thermal limit issues, though they did sting me for the charger which was £55 because it was apparently "scuffed" (it was not) Bottom line, i would strongly recommend people steer clear of this chassis, it can not handle the CPU and gets so hot and loud it's uncomfortable to use, and throttles so much you won't get the performance you should out of the 8750h.


This is a good spec and a reasonable price... but... You should decide if you really do need a laptop to game on rather than a small form factor desktop instead. Given the price, performance, and update-path differences. A lot of people seem to get these huge gaming laptops and then realise that PC gaming on the move isn't really practical, not for AAA titles any way, and given you don't need a beefy laptop to run basic games it feels like a bit of a waste. Especially when having it on your lap isn't really practical when it's over 15 inches, will cook your nads, and have a pretty awful battery life. Granted you can't take your mITX rig on the train, but who wants to be the selfish guy hogging up the entire train table so he can play CoD? Also, do you really want to throw your entire machine away after 3-5 years? Wouldn't it be better to drop a better GPU in? Maybe upgrade the CPU? Also laptop i7s are only really as fast as their desktop i5 counterparts, for example the i7-8750H in this machine is slightly slower than the i5-8600k.Plus the desktop is more easily overclocked. If I wanted a small rig around this price I'd build I would 100% build a SSF system using the Silverstone RVZ01 which is about the same size as a PS4/Xbone. PCPartPicker part list: Price breakdown by merchant: CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£225.18 @ PC World Business) CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-L12S 55.4 CFM CPU Cooler (£45.75 @ Amazon UK) Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£128.98 @ Amazon UK) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£126.84 @ Amazon UK) Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£58.03 @ CCL Computers) Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£29.99 @ Aria PC) Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card (£337.07 @ Amazon UK) Case: Silverstone - RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case (£86.99 @ Power Supply: Silverstone - 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply (£80.99 @ Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£60.00 @ Amazon UK) Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£179.98 @ PC World) Total: £1359.80 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-12 12:47 BST+0100 Run that for a few years and maybe grab a second hand i7-8700K, and what ever the equivalent to a 1070Ti is then. Sell your other parts and you'll have a proper upgrade path, plus you can choose what keyboard you like rather than using a built in one. If you wanted to go cheaper you could forgo the official way of getting Windows 10 and get a key off of eBay, you could also pick a cheaper cube case. The machine is small and could easily pass for a games console, so hook up a controller and enjoy your games at 4K on the sofa. If anyone wants any further advice/information PM me.


Personally, I would look at PC Specialist & configure it to suit. I specced a near identical 17" Defiance V for about the same cost, but if you consider other components, you could get a similar machine for a fair bit less.


This or Alienware?


Neg me harder daddy

ASUS ROG Strix GL702 17.3" Intel® Core™ i7 GTX 1060 Gaming Laptop - 1 TB HDD & 256GB SSD £909.97 @ Currys ebay, only one in stock
Found 7th SepFound 7th Sep
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ processor RAM: 16 GB / Storage: 1 TB HDD & 256 GB SSD Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB DDR5 Full HD display Product Type: Notebook Operating System… Read more

That was really good deal.


OOS but shows 3 sold


too slow ;(


OOS ..... sad face


Thanks op, I've bought. 😁

Asus ROG STRIX Core i5-7300HQ 8GB 1TB + 128GB SSD GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 15.6 Inch Windows 10 Gaming Laptop - Titanium GL502VM-FY497T £849.97 Laptops Direct
Found 22nd AugFound 22nd Aug
Recently was looking to get a new laptop and saw this. Cheapest I've been able to find

Interestingly I had kept see mixed information on the ASUS FX503VM i see it listed as 3GB on some reviews and some places like scan,overclockers but 6GB on others. Unless they have the same SKU but with different GPU but same model number just to confuse things


Yes the 120hz is TN 3ms and without gsync Im 100% sure this one is 75hz IPS gsync, the big problem with this panel is abysmal response time 23ms and 38ms GtG, fast shooters feels wierd


they are difference between them?


like always they are clueless, gl502 is 75hz IPS, 120hz is on fx502 and its a TN panel


on site its 120hz!

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Asus ROG ZEPHYRUS M GM501 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Black at for £1394.10
Found 18th AugFound 18th Aug
Product OverviewThis ASUS ROG Zephyrus M gaming laptop has everything you need to lay waste to the competition. As well as the sophisticated brushed aluminium look, it boasts an Ac… Read more

Thin gaming laptop = thermal throttling. Worth it? Not really IMO... I’d rather have it bulkier than useless after 35min gaming...


No problem ASUS FX504GM i7 8750H 1060 6GB for only 990, saving of around 400 quid similar spec the FX504GM TUF is only 2.5kg and slim form factor. Your paying an extra 400 for the ROG branding... lol


The premium price is for the form factor. Feel free to present a slimmer gaming laptop with the same spec at a lower price.


Too expensive for 1060


Decent discount but probably a little overpriced for a 1060 laptop, even with the 8th gen i7

Asus RoG Zephyrus Gaming Laptop - GTX 1080 / i7 / 16GB RAM / G-Sync / 512GB NVMe £1999.98  / 1070 Version £1,799.99 @ Scan [+ Freebies]
Found 17th AugFound 17th Aug
Bit of a beast! Will nail about everything that you throw at it. Has that all important RBG Keyboard... Oh yeah and a GTX 1080 8GB / i7/ 16GB RAM Combo, which is also important :… Read more

Unfortunately the premium for 1070 maxq will remain until 2060 mobile release which may be around first quarter 2019


Agreed. If early indicators are anything to go by then the power jump isn't going to be that substantial this gen. You'll be able to pick up a decent 1070 laptop far cheaper that a 2060 and get comparable performance. You'll be lucky to see the first wave 2060 laptop's south of £1800, I reckon.


Not sure that wait will be worth it. I reckon the new thin gaming laptops will have a 2060 rather than 2070 (?max q) (they need something to release the year after), which probably won't be leaps ahead of the 1070 max q, but for much more £. It's probably going to be a good time to get a cheap thin 1070 when the 2060 is released. Ray tracing is just about runnable on a 2080 Ti. Will you be able to game at 4k on a 2060? Probably not, the 1070 can manage FHD pretty well anyway so you'll be paying a lot more for little difference practically.


Anything close to this spec wise around the £1500 price point? I'd take a 1070 model as I'm mainly wanting a portable video editing rig. This would of course smash it out of the part, but ideally a 1440p or 4K panel would be a bit more desirable.


I'd rather save a £1000 and game at 60Hz

17.3" ASUS ROG Strix SCAR Gaming Laptop - i7 / 16GB RAM / 1TB HDD + 256GB SSD  GTX 1060 6GB / G-Sync / 120Hz £1199.97 @ Box
Found 17th AugFound 17th Aug
Nice looking machine with decent specs. Should run anything you throw at it. Also has a 17.3" Screen with G-Sync, 120Hz refresh rate and to go with that, there's a 6GB GTX 1060 in … Read more

Thanks, I will have a look, ideally I'm trying to make a saving in the macbook pro which is £2450+ so budget flexible for other options with video and photo editing being the main goal with portability second. (Ideally it would have IPS but that will mean a sacrifice somewhere as they are not ideal for games.) Surely the OP would be a better option or is the saving likely worth it for my mentioned needs on graphics?


If you can spare another 150£, buy this as long as it’s available: 8core, 16gb, rx 580 4gb, 256gb+1tb, 17” freesync panel This would be “future proof” for the next sort of 2 years in that price range


If I find anything I'll let you know but I'm open to any budget for right machine for needs.


Thanks for the reply. I actually have a benq 24 2k monitor for home use at the moment so I'm open to what display it has. A Macbook pro is ideal but at £2400+ um not so sure. Luckily my computer works again as my search was accelerated when I thought it had gone (not worth me spending a single penny on that old thing) luckily it appears the graphics card died and the in board still works for now. Thanks for the info, I will have a look into it.


You’ll struggle with a ‘gaming’ laptop for £500. Are there any pre-requisites for the spec required to complete the game design degree?.

ASUS Republic of Gamers G11CD Gaming PC - i5 7400, 8GB DDR4, GTX 1060 6GB - £626.85 Delivered @ Currys ebay
Found 17th AugFound 17th Aug
I purchased this a few months ago at a similar price, although it states no keyboard/mouse included mine did come with a wired keyboard/mouse. Use code PIGGYBANK for £50 off and g… Read more



Won't let me pm you so here's the link. With this build the RAM and case are cheaper brands so you can spend a bit more to get better brands. The motherboard can support the new 8th gen socket. Also I dropped the SSD to 120gb to match the price of this tower, that can also be increased for a bit extra. Hope this helps!


Any chance you can pm me part list


I'd wait just a little longer and hopefully after Mondays announcement from Nvidia we should start and see the 10 series gpu prices come down.


Good deal, However if you're willing to build your own you can upgrade the i5 7400 to an i5 8400 as well as add a 240gb SSD for fast boot times. You can have these upgrades while having the 1060 6gb for under £700

ASUS Republic Of Gamers Strix GD30 Desktop PC, Intel Core i7, 16GB, 1TB + 256GB SSD, GeForce GTX1060 £1049 @ John lewis
Found 11th AugFound 11th Aug
The ASUS ROG Strix GD30 boasts a Sci-Fi- and cyberpunk-inspired design with its stylish black and white finish, that’s been designed to appeal to fans of a certain iconic movie sag… Read more
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Apologies. It totally escaped me that he was referring to a HDD. I was about to ask where I can get one from for £37!


Fair play, but each part also will have a warranty


Clearly a typo...there’s always one (lol)


1Tb SSD for £37?


I'd pay the extra £150 to have it ready to go and fully warrantied

ASUS ROG Strix-Scar edition GL703 Laptop, Intel Core i7, 16GB, 1TB + 256 SSD, GeForce GTX 1060, 17.3", Black at John Lewis for £979
Found 10th AugFound 10th Aug
144HZ Display Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5 16GB RAM 256 GB SSD 1TB HDD I7 7700HQ 17.3" 1920 * 1080P Display Insane specification for the price imo

I know it’s took a while to reply but I was in discussion with John Lewis. The laptop has got a 120hz TN Matt display, not a massive issue for me as the price was decent anyway and after a few emails and telephone calls JL have refunded £75 as a good will gesture as their website was wrong so even better value. Id recommend any one else who purchased one to ring as well Apart from that I’m really pleased with the machine, it’s played everything so far on Ultra at 60+ FPS less demanding games at over 150 FPS.


After watching some YouTube reviews it says that TN screens have better grey to grey refresh rates than the IPS anyway. Still the closessed price for the same laptopwas over £300 anywhere else so I suppose I’m not bothered either way.


Type 'settings' in the search bar (bottom left of desktop) > click on 'Display' > click on 'Advanced Display Settings' (bottom of screen) It'll tell you there. Genuinely curious to see what screen it has. If it's 144hz it's even more of a bargain than it already is!


4 websites, 2 144hz and 2 120hz. I’ll report back after 2pm when I collect it. Not sure how I will know though as I’m a bit of a PC virgin, I’ve not had a PC for over 10 years as I’ve used Mac’s


Again though, it states 144hz in ASUS's marketing blurb which Overclockers have just copied into the description (no doubt where JL have gotten the 144hz from) If you look at the product spec info at the top of the Overclockers page you'll see it states 120hz. This particular laptop has a 120hz screen. If it was the 144hz screen option, the part number would be different (as far as I know) Tbh, it doesn't make a great deal of difference, 120 or 144hz, its still a great laptop at a great price and well worth a pop. *I've edited my previous comments swapping SKU with part number as that's more accurate. Sorry for the confusion mate.

Asus ROG Strix GeForce STRIX-GTX1080-A8G-GAMING £499.99 Amazon Prime
Found 9th AugFound 9th Aug
i'm still hanging on to an ASUS GTX 970 but i've just starting shopping round to upgrade my mobo/cpu & gpu and this has come up the lowest price according to Keepa & Camel.… Read more
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I'd support the throttling of crypto mining with these...if that is possible lol. Stop this bs so we can get some affordable components


The current rumour mill which likely has some weight to it is that the next set of consoles will be going the AMD APU route again, so it's more likely it'd be a reactive move to seeing where things are shifting outside of Nvidia's development efforts (given, Nvidia do a lot of deep learning stuff so compute's big on their agenda too, just not so much for home hardware). The die size part is a good call though, seeing as the 11xx kit will likely be 12nm while a bunch of foundries have 7nm in production now. The real world boon such a difference makes remains to be seen, but I'm hopeful.


They will sell the 11 tech at high prices to begin with to PC enthusiasts this year and let the cost of the tech and die size drop towards 2020 for a cut price console chip.


Personally, I'd say the 11 series is going to be a bit of a gamble from the get-go, since the current suggestion is that the next console generation will start in 2020 going off of Microsoft's hardware planning sheets. It's a bit long in the tooth to run a 9-series or lower end 10-series until then, but depending on how the new consoles are oriented (possibly towards GPU compute for things like realtime raytracing etc) it might be prudent to see how the consoles change the market. Likely to know more around E3 next year.


Second hand TI and Titan Pascal's are going for 450 used with plenty of warranty so too dear.

ASUS ROG Swift PG278QR 27" Gaming Monitor - 2560x1440 / G-Sync 165Hz  / 1ms - £529.99 @ Box 3 Years Manufacturers Warranty
Found 2nd AugFound 2nd Aug
Would love one of these, specs seem awesome and the price is the best around just now. Everyone is going to be after different things in a monitor and for me this is a nice place t… Read more

or get this for 400 mod: ahh, its VA not IPS. still a decentish deal.


Just go U L T R A W I D E You know it makes sense.


G sync is honestly not worth it, I'd rather have IPS than it as its barely even noticeable. If you absolutely need g sync get the XB271HU which has the exact same specs but IPS instead for around £500 or around £400 on sale.


1 year ago i got a 144hz fs 1440p VA 32" AOC for 500..i bet you could find the same for around £400 now....the gsync tax is steep man :(


Not bad but a TN panel for over £500 is quite insane. The ideal 27” 1440p monitors for around this price region are the ASUS PG279Q and the Samsung C27HG70. Panel lottery though.

Asus ROG STRIX Core i5-7300HQ 8GB 1TB + 128GB SSD GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 15.6 Inch Gaming Laptop £849.97  Laptops Direct
Found 2nd AugFound 2nd Aug
I was checking reviews for this laptop after seeing another deal posted for it at Debenhams, and it's £10 cheaper here, plus 2.1% TopCashback. Still not sure if I'll go for it mys… Read more
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Do you need a small system? What’s the budget? Probably best to PM me.


Thanks for the build Ollie. I think I'm going to go with something like this. Could you recommend a build using a Ryzen 5?


You can also buy licence keys off ebay for about £3.


That's just your opinion Ollie. I see plenty of 15.6" laptops on the train every day. Just for my info, how much does a mITX weigh?


Any "laptop" over 13 inches is too big to be truely portable. It's not just about weight.

ASUS ROG Strix GL702VM-GC143T 17.3 inch @ £1,099.97 @ Box
Found 27th JulFound 27th Jul
ASUS ROG Strix GL702VM-GC143T Intel Core i7-7700HQ Quad Core Processor 17.3" Full HD Ultra Slim Screen Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit 16GB DDR4 RAM 256GB M.2 SSD + 1000GB HD… Read more

That's the 1070 model. 1060 with 7700 stay around 85C


good spec but this model suffers from extreme overheating and throttling. 94 pages on asus oficial forum tells the full story. better to buy MSI or Lenovo

Asus Radeon RX Vega 64 RoG STRIX OC 8GB HBM2 Graphics Card £489.97 @ Laptops Direct
Found 27th JulFound 27th Jul
Not a bad price for a new aftermarket RX Vega 64 from a reputable manufacturer.

I agree that the reference Vegas run hot but this runs around 70-75c which is perfectly fine. For freesync users it has historically been ridiculously priced and only now is it priced competitively to the 1080.


Well each to their own, but people buy Gsync because it's overall better regardless of cost. AMD has to do something make people buy their top line graphics cards. Vega 64 uses more power, produces more heat +20°C like for like, then you have popularity of Nvidia cards, people will keep buying them unless AMD can produce something for less price and better. I would only buy Asus if it was from Amazon or OcUK as they have a 48 hour turnaround service for Asus graphics cards and motherboards, anywhere else and you're looking at 6+ weeks.


Why though? With the latest driver updates it's as fast or faster than a 1080 (as shown in the latest toms hardware reviews), and you save a ton of money through not having to pay gsync tax. The Asus 1080's are more expensive than this vega 64, so this is priced bang in the middle of the 1080 pack with only the cheaper models (by gigabyte etc) being lower.


"We found a deal matching your 'gaming laptop' keyword alert!" : Only by mistake. Please fix the algorithm labelling typical desktop components as matches to gaming laptop. This is not a gaming laptop; it isn't even something someone wanting a laptop would typically buy to augment their laptop. Thanks.


It would probally help if the Vega 64 was less than the cheapest GTX 1080.

Asus ROG Strix RX VEGA 64 OC edition 8GB HBM2 Graphics Card £528.98 Ebuyer
Found 17th JulFound 17th Jul
I know it is still expensive for a graphics card and x card is coming out in y weeks, but this is the cheapest it has ever been! It is also the cheapest at the moment by ar… Read more
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Excellent points. I own an expensive ultrawide freesync which I don't fancy forking out for the GSYNC equivalent even for a cheaper 1080.


I'm selling 27' Samsung curved 144hz freesync monitor any red team member interested :)


Vega 56 when it was £380 ish was the smart buy. Shame the price went up to such a ridiculous price. Wouldnt buy this at this price when nvidia 2x series due to drop.


1. You're a miner 2. You bought Freesync That's it. Although spending £100 more on a card which is worse than a GTX1080 kind of negates the premium for a Gsync monitor anyway. That and the near future of AMD actually building anything decent high end isn't exactly looking great either.


Some people like myself are with Freesync monitors, so makes sense to go Red.

ASUS ROG STRIX GL702ZC-GC104T - £1,049.98 @ Scan
Found 14th JulFound 14th Jul
Serious AMD gaming laptop, pretty much a desktop setup in a laptop. 17” Full HD (not 4K) 8 core AMD Ryzen 7 CPU 4GB Radeon RX580 GPU 16GB DDR4 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD I know it’s… Read more

1050 again


Cold for being overpriced. Cold for also being scan


It's £999.98 now! Could you build a desktop with these specs for this price?


I was going for general comparisons, if he's asking for the competing company comparison he obviously doesn't have a vast knowledge in components and there's a reason the R7 line up has a 7 in it - to make it obvious it's there to take on recent i7's. Marketing, hey.


Thanks for re-activating

ROG Strix GTX 1080 a8g £499.99 @ amazon PRIME Exclusive
Found 11th JulFound 11th Jul
Best price at the moment... I'm tempted to wait but I think this is a good price!
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Well they are not going to want to make an imminent release clear, unless AMD had competitive GPUs that force their hand. Why should they make it clear the new cards are imminent - it would reduce sales of their current cards and they have stock they want to get rid of... I have no evidence for this, but I just suggested waiting because this is only a relatively good price, nothing amazing. We are all still overpaying even at this price due to the markup from miners etc driving up GPU prices.


which was meant to be April, then June, then July i wouldn't count on it


Those rumours ^


August, paper launch, low volumes to retailers as it was with the 1080 release. Everyone is starting to dump their 1080Ti's for £500 +/-.


despite the CEO saying the release of new cards wont be seen 'for a long time' at Computex? there have been rumours all year and nothing has surfaced so i wouldnt personally keep waiting if you are looking to upgrade soon.

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