Replaceable batteries in smartphones to make a return from 2027?

Posted 17th Jul 2023
With the new EU ruling coming in to force from 2027 to say smartphone manufacturers have to start offering phones whereby you can replace the batteries again, I know if this comes into effect, a lot of hukd members will approve, but if it does come in, what will be the after affects, no waterproofing (Or very little) build quality may suffer, what are your thoughts?

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The European Union is preparing to introduce a new law aimed at promoting easier battery repairs for smartphones. This legislation will require manufacturers to design smartphones in theEU with user replaceable batteries

As per the report from the publication, upon approval from the Council and Parliament, the law is expected to come into effect in early 2027. In addition to facilitating battery replacements, the recently approved regulations by the European Council also include requirements for rechargeable batteries used in electric vehicles and mobile devices such as smartphones and tablets.

Reportedly, these batteries will need to provide information about their carbon footprint, feature a label, and include a battery passport when sold within the EU region.

Furthermore, the report suggests that the European Union Council has recently given its approval to a set of regulations that will oblige smartphone manufacturers to ensure their devices are designed in a way that allows users to easily replace the batteries.

These new regulations aim to address the environmental impact of batteries throughout their entire life cycle. Once the regulation is signed into law by the European Council and Parliament, smartphone manufacturers will be required to incorporate replaceable batteries in their devices sold within the EU by 2027 (as reported by Android Authority).

However, there is a possibility of the EU granting a delay to the implementation of the rule if manufacturers request more time to comply with the switch to portable batteries.

The regulations approved by the European Parliament and the Council cover a wide range of batteries, including waste portable batteries, electric vehicle batteries, industrial batteries, and batteries used in vehicles and machinery known as starting, lightning, and ignition (SLI) batteries. The scope of the regulations also extends to batteries used in light means of transport such as electric bikes, e-mopeds, and e-scooters.

According to the new rules, all batteries will be required to provide mandatory information regarding their carbon footprint. Additionally, they must feature labels, an electronic "battery passport," and a QR code. The implementation of the labelling requirements is expected by 2026, while the inclusion of QR Codes is set for 2027.
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  1. litwoojczyznomoj's avatar
    I have nothing against the idea but here are a couple of thoughts:
    -Phones will become more expensive, as manufacturers will have to specifically design phones for EU market.
    - Some manufacturers may leave EU market as they may decide that it's not worth the trouble.
    jaju123's avatar
    Neither of those will really happen because the customer base in the EU is so huge. They will just redesign the phones globally.

    Also, a lot of the reasons for removing removable batteries in the first place are just to force planned obsolescence. Companies just copy apple and come up with excuses for removing features. The headphone jack is one example, as well as SD card readers.
  2. Forgottenshopper's avatar
    Will this EU ruling effect the UK now after Brexit ??
    Willy_Wonka's avatar
    Yes, because the manufacturers won't make phones just for the UK market
  3. TommyGunn's avatar
    Perhaps manufacturers can have a battery that ejects much like a giant sim tray, therefore hopefully creating a solid seal around the bottom of the phone. This could then hopefully ensure that the waterproofing can be retained as much as possible.

    As a previous owner of an S10e, the battery life on that phone was unbearably bad. I wish I had an easier option to replace the battery than ripping the entire thing apart. The phone itself is still a great piece of hardware but the battery would drain at alarming speeds.
    Kai_Kinder's avatar
    That's, actually a hell of an idea. Not sure how it would hold up over time as more moving parts just generally aren't a great idea but that's why we have R&D departments. I think you could be on to something with an idea like that tbh
  4. ana7mody's avatar
    The batteries are already replaceable. You just have to give it to a professional to do so.

    I don't know what this new law is about then !!
    Kai_Kinder's avatar
    User replaceable....
  5. Mark_Hickman's avatar
    Im sure they could just make a slot in the bottom that slides out with the battery attached and its lined with a rubber seal which compresses as you tighten a screw each side of the pull out tray to make it water proof or something similar, im sure they'll figure it out
  6. carphead's avatar
    This is pretty meaningless to be honest. Most of the responders to this thread are expecting the good old days when you could take the back off the phone and unclip the battery.

    All this law will mean is that you will be able to replace the battery easier. So, a documented procedure that requires a few screws to change the battery with no glue. I suspect that what will happen is the companies will just sell you a kit to replace it.
  7. WhateverTrevor's avatar
    Good from a security standpoint, and from a green standpoint. So long as they don't have a secondary internal battery installed, I can actually see that happening.
  8. lee_79_uk's avatar
    I like the idea from a green standpoint, however the battery on new-ish phone lasts a couple of years before it starts to see the preference drop..

    However many of us replace phones within a couple of years because they get slower, or a better camera or faster CPU/software due to manufacture stops updated after 3 ish years..

    However it's like everything else the intentions are good but not fully thought off. (edited)
    dipsylalapo's avatar
    I think we're at the point with phones where the gains are marginal year or year, so having phones for longer than a 2/3 years will start to become more normal. Plus add to that long term software support for phones. Keeping a phone for 3/4 and even 5 years will hopefully start to become the normal.

    As more and more manufacturers are touting batteries that charge in 20 mins, what beats 0-100 in less than 1 min with a quick battery swap out :P
  9. Onlydongles's avatar
    Ip ratings for mobile are over Hyped .

    How many of you actually go swimmng with their phones glue to your ears ? One might as well not go on holidays and stay at home conducting that Million dollars an hour business, instead.

    And for those who really need it, there are enough waterproof pouches for phones available just for that day out in the rain.

    We were all doing fine, when replaceable batteries were the norm.
    Kai_Kinder's avatar
    "we were all doing fine when replaceable batteries were the norm" speak for yourself. Just about every phone I had barring maybe two of them met their end via some kind of water, be it the sink, the toilet or a rather large puddle. Interestingly since non removable batteries and IP ratings became the norm not once have I had a phone die this way and that certainly isn't due to me not getting my device wet!
  10. Kai_Kinder's avatar
    I have mixed feelings on this... On one hand I'm a huge supporter of being able to easily swap out things like batteries that degrade over time... However I'm a MUCH bigger supporter of water resistant devices, I haven't had a phone die by way of water since removable batteries stopped being the norm and I can't say that's because I just stopped getting my devices wet.

    Simply put I can't imagine a way they will be able to keep phones as they are while having a removable battery whilst retaining a sufficient IP rating
  11. DaveG46's avatar
    Can they get rid of God awful camera bumps next please
  12. jaju123's avatar
    I think they'll make it work cos they'll have to. Maybe a lot of phones will be replaceable more easily but after replacing once the waterproofing will be gone. As far as I know that's already the case with many phones.
    MrSwitch's avatar
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    I don't want a phone that feels like a Samsung galaxy s6
  13. toge's avatar
    Mixed feelings
    positive is greener and being able to swap batteries on a night out
    negative will be waterproof ratings (edited)
  14. abigsmurf's avatar
    The EU have a habit of good intentioned but terribly implemented technology regulations. It's still likely to be difficult to replace batteries and you'll probably break the waterproofing. Although some makers glue their batteries in, ultimately the difficulty in replacing them is down to them needing to really cram in the components in the casing, where every fraction of a mm counts.

    Can also see this giving manufacturers incentive to put protection chips in the batteries so you can only buy extremely expensive ones direct from the manufacturer. May also see the EU simply not getting some models.
  15. .MUFC.'s avatar
    Be interesting to see what crApple come up with. Probably come with a tiny clip on powerbank or something, Keeping the main battery inside etc.
    melted's avatar
    They could integrate the battery into the back cover and have it slide off, with a thin layer of plastic, or a coating over both parts to keep out dust and water, and include some electronics to detect a short between the battery terminals and cut the power in case water gets in the joint. Or maybe it would be better to integrate the replaceable battery with the screen, so you can replace both at the same time

    But, I suspect what you'll actually get is a video and some kit you can rent to melt the glue and separate the case etc... (edited)
  16. Truffian69's avatar
    The truth is that these massive multinational businesses want your ca$h every couple of years.
    The choice will be new battery or new phone.
    :/
  17. boble's avatar
    Good news. If manufacturers don't like it, they will have to make better fixed batteries. That would be the ideal.
  18. Dan_Monkfield's avatar
    Will it effect the UK as we aren’t in the EU? Personally, having seen the explosive force of a battery and concerns of the impact of water damage, which largely now seems a thing of the past, I’d rather just hand it over to Ismash for £39, or on a newer iPhone, Apple themselves for around £100, then risk getting a cheap dodgy battery and a phone that fails fatal because it rained.
    Onlydongles's avatar
    Big boys playing on your fears for the aftermarket replacements. They lose a source of guaranteed revenue due to planned obsolesence.

    Statistically, how many examples come to light of exploding and burning phones after battery replacements by repairers, worldwide ?
  19. isabela's avatar
    It would be much better at one hand as it will be easy to replace batteries on the other hand low quality fake batteries will be there alot which will damage the phone in the end
  20. nik1's avatar
    It would be great to force this onto manufacturers. We all know that after 2 to 3 years the battery of any phone will degrade to 50% or less (yes depends how much you thrash it and how you charge it) . Holding a half day charge is just no good. We buy a new phone for that majority reason.

    Second is we have to buy a new phone as the 2 big OS providers stop supporting older versions. You bite the bullet as you need your apps. Making them legally support OS for at least 7years would help.

    Thirdly, increase the trade in offers or make it mandatory. But some people might like to keep a spare for just in case. It's difficult to see how that would work.

    I'm reticent to get a new phone just because I'm developing battery anxiety. But we are going to run out of oil and these precious metals at some point.

    As an example my local Vuse store shut down 3mths ago and I didn't find out until last week when I went to recycle my disposable vapes. Customer helpline said nearest one in London. I said I know but I'm not travelling from Reading. So they would arrange collection. A day later sorry we got it wrong and can't do it. Bin or tip it. Not happy about doing either...... But aha not to be beaten I googled. Totally Wicked take ANY brand for recycling. That's the kind of thing we need to see.

    At the end of the day customer will pay for it reflected in the price. Offer a small incentive or you can't buy a phone battery unless you have one too trade? I don't know what the solution is. (edited)
  21. SBK_100's avatar
    I read this only affecting handheld consoles (edited)
  22. JRSC01's avatar
    think it will be good, but only if the batteries were standardised in size and pinout, similar to a USB C port, otherwise they could simply just change the battery compartment size, pins, ports and design to suit themselves on every device.

    If they could have a standard smartphone battery that could be used in any smartphone from 2026/2027 so that they could be interchangable, that way you wouldnt need multiple shapes and sizes of batteries that cost a fortune to replace as they are 'rare' to buy or find etc.
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