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Muddyfox Evolve200 aluminium folding bike with Shimano Nexus 7 speed hub £224.99 @ Sports Direct
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Updated 13th JanLast updated 13th Jan by bonzobanana
> Alloy Folding Bike Frame > Alloy Rigid Front Forks > Alloy Handlebars > Alloy Telescopic Folding Handlebar Stem > 7 Speed Shimano Nexus in-hub gears with Shima… Read more
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So effectively you have paid about £150 for a lightweight aluminium folding bike with a freehub based drivetrain and decent components. It's a pretty good deal to say the least. You could pay £500 for a Dahon and get a weaker frame, inferior drivetrain but a decent brand slapped on the frame. The Dahon would likely be heavier.

Some of your criticisms could be labelled at all folding bikes but poor assembly seems to be a common theme on bikes like this they really need a full check before use. Same is true of the Muddyfox of this thread. The bike seems to be configured for high speed commuting with its sporty saddle and tyres but a more relaxed bike could be achieved with a different saddle and wider profile tyres that are a bit harder to turn and give more suspension to insulate you from pot holes more etc. Tyre pressures should be thereabouts a 15% widening from on the bike and off the bike with lower pressures at the front normal as more weight is at the back. It's only a very general rule, spending time to get tyre pressures just right for your weight can improve the ride quality dramatically both in your comfort and how the bike grips the road, over pressure and under pressure both have their own set of problems.

If you find you really don't like the bike you should be able to get more than what you paid for it. Pointing out stuff like the Claris derailleur etc with a decent advert.

As for hill climbing when you look at the image of the bike it looks like a short ratio cassette with not much of a granny gear for hill climbing but in the spec it says 12-32 with 32 being reasonable for hill climbing might be worth checking what you have. However the bike is definitely configured for speed you have a 52T front chainring but its common to see 46 or 48T on some other folding bikes which is much slower making hill climbing easier but top speed lower. Might be worth changing the front crankset or rear cassette to make it easier for hill climbing. The derailleur looks quite long maybe you could get away with something like a 11-34 cassette that would give you greater top speed and easier hill climbing.

halfords.com/cyc…34t
Edited by: "bonzobanana" 13th Jan

we agreed on a £25 refund in the end (initially offered £20 but then I also had to replace the front inner tube which was was faulty/punctured)

Given the damage was minor & didnt affect the rideabiity (after the inner tube was replaced) then it was a fair arrangement

Either I was a bit unlucky or the company could do with better quality control - not sure which

The bike was OK to ride over a mostly level 6 mile stretch - slightly wobbly front stem but I think I just need to tighten things up a bit to improve on that - the seat post stayed in place & didnt slip with my 15 stone weight on it - the gearing is OK although I wouldnt want to go up an longish steepish extended incline as the easiest gear isnt really made for it

Wouldnt want to travel more than 6 miles or so but it will be fine for shorter distances - it feels like its harder work than a racer / hybrid I guess mainly because you have to more actively steer it since the fork are further away from the handlebar
Edited by: "bayhabourbutcher" 12th Jan

Original Poster

Documentation like that is pretty much standard I would say with these types of box shifters but normally you'd get one sheet with anything specific required as you say so nothing is poor although I personally have encountered this quite often so would be expected.

Main folding hinge being stiff is fairly normal, you don't want it loose, you'll probably find it will loosen a little with use and this issue will pass.

I would expect a partial refund because of the frame scratches and replacement parts sent for the other issues or a larger refund same as you.

Perhaps when you have sorted the issues if you get to keep the bike (I would if you get a reasonable partial refund considering the spec) you can give your views again when its a fully working bike.

bonzobanana30th Dec 2017

How is the Greenway bike, the good the bad? £173 for the Greenway surely …How is the Greenway bike, the good the bad? £173 for the Greenway surely is a huge bargain given the components fitted. I've seen reviews of the Muddyfox bike and although the components supplied were excellent for the money assembly was poor and its a bike that needs a full service really before using correcting the poor assembly, except for the rear hub which is pretty much good to go. Hub gears vs derailleur definitely favours hub gears for a folding bike. They can't be knocked/damaged and you can change gear at any time. Ideal for commuting through cities etc. The Greenway has a cassette/freehub drivetrain and decent claris derailleur so still a huge step up from the basic tourney/freewheel setup of most folding bikes at anywhere near this price. You could pay getting on £600 for some Dahon's and Terns and just end up with a low end freewheel drivetrain.Does the Greenway state a maximum rider weight in the manual?


got to say im not that impressed so far

here are main issues discovered so far :

1) the only documentation to come with the bike was some generic booklet they use for ALL their bikes - there were no specific instructions about this folding bike so I had to figure out how to assemble it myself which I have hopefully managed to do correctly

2) the main folding hinge in the centre of the bike is very stiff & unwieldy which makes the bike very hard to fold - you end up using your body to help with the folding so dont wear anyting that you dont want oil or dirt on

3) the product arrived with a damaged shimano claris shifter (piece broken off), some chips to the frame paintwork and zinc plated bolts that had already started to corrode - I have emailed the seller asking if they will consider a partial refund to cover these issues - the shifter is probably still functional despite the damage so the bike should still be rideable

4) the brakes came unconfigured eg the pads didnt even line up with the wheel rims - hopefully the gears will have been set up properly but cant check properly until I ride the bike

Havent ridden it yet in case I have to return the whole product - which I will probably do if they refuse to consider a partial refund

Compared to the 'factory second' ridgeback bike I bought from bike depot this purchase is much more problematical
Edited by: "bayhabourbutcher" 5th Jan

bonzobanana10 h, 2 m ago

How is the Greenway bike, the good the bad? £173 for the Greenway surely …How is the Greenway bike, the good the bad? £173 for the Greenway surely is a huge bargain given the components fitted. I've seen reviews of the Muddyfox bike and although the components supplied were excellent for the money assembly was poor and its a bike that needs a full service really before using correcting the poor assembly, except for the rear hub which is pretty much good to go. Hub gears vs derailleur definitely favours hub gears for a folding bike. They can't be knocked/damaged and you can change gear at any time. Ideal for commuting through cities etc. The Greenway has a cassette/freehub drivetrain and decent claris derailleur so still a huge step up from the basic tourney/freewheel setup of most folding bikes at anywhere near this price. You could pay getting on £600 for some Dahon's and Terns and just end up with a low end freewheel drivetrain.Does the Greenway state a maximum rider weight in the manual?


Im not getting it until jan 4th so dont know yet - Im 15+ stone so hopefully it can cope

I did take a slight risk as I couldnt find any measurements for the max. inside leg length before the 20% off offer expired - Im about 33 inside leg i.e. have quite long legs so theres a possibility I may not be able to get the seat quite high enough for optimal pedaling position but I can probably live with that given what I plan to use it for

I only saw the muddyfox offer after the greenway purchase & would have found the mudgaurds & pannier rack useful - I can use the £s Ive saved to buy & fit them on the greenway instead - I may buy a bag that attaches to the seatpost instead
Edited by: "bayhabourbutcher" 30th Dec 2017
Muddy Fox aluminium folding bike with Shimano Nexus 7 hub gears £264.98 @ Muddy fox
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Updated 8th Jul 2017Last updated 8th Jul 2017 by bonzobanana
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Still available and still a great price for a 7 speed hub geared aluminium folding bike with above entry level components.

POWYSWALES

Yes will do, I am checking it daily, it's usually the Easter weekend, … Yes will do, I am checking it daily, it's usually the Easter weekend, sometimes they also have an extra 10% of the sale prices as an extra bank holiday monday promotion. you may be better opting for home delivery as most stores are only carrying 1 or 2 in stock and one of them will be the display model.


Hi, just to let you know the evo 2 is now £200 using code BIKES20 on Halfords website.

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johnnystorm

​Dunno how much you can read into that. Oranges are made by blokes in b … ​Dunno how much you can read into that. Oranges are made by blokes in brown store coats are a rate of 40 a week and they have only had 0.45% failure rate. https://youtu.be/mlIYEdRFQu4



Wow great link. Didn't even know Orange were making their own frames I would have assumed they were buying in frames from Taiwan like even the big players like Canyon who charge up to 5 figures for their bikes. I have great respect for those guys. However I believe after reading many articles that robot welding can produce higher quality frames with more consistent welds especially for aluminium. Those Orange bikes look fantastic though and I don't think such small scale quality should be compared to a mid size high volume factory like Dahon who do have known quality issues and reported poor frame manufacturing. If I win the lottery I'll be getting this one I think which costs £1700.

https://www.orangebikes.co.uk/images/2017_bikes/large/RX9-Pro-2017-3Q-206.jpg
Edited by: "bonzobanana" 28th Mar 2017

bonzobanana

Maybe but the factory looks a bit low tech compared to their … Maybe but the factory looks a bit low tech compared to their competition.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDkITqzhdUCompared to Fuji-Ta who make the Raleigh Evo I think as well as other bikes including Cannondale.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yn5kIpIrv0I think there is a issue with their frame quality from what I've read and the facility seems to indicate that would be more likely.The reason I mentioned it was because I expected people to say 'Dahon' was a much better bike but there has been major issues with the quality of that brand. However saying that I think for Europe many Dahon's are made by max.com of bulgaria and so the quality could be different to the Chinese plant anyway. I would suspect the Bulgarian plant is about final assembly of bikes using Chinese frames in Europe to avoid high EU import duties.



​Dunno how much you can read into that. Oranges are made by blokes in brown store coats are a rate of 40 a week and they have only had 0.45% failure rate. youtu.be/mlI…Qu4

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POWYSWALES

I recently sold my dahon speed 7 as the folding mechanism hinge developed … I recently sold my dahon speed 7 as the folding mechanism hinge developed play after about 1500 miles.



Was that the same one you mentioned previously had a poor tolerance between frame saddle tube and saddle post so was hard to prevent it moving, or was that a different Dahon you had?
Claim £50 Google Play Store Credit when you purchase a qualifying ASUS Google Nexus 7 (2013)
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Updated 24th May 2014Last updated 24th May 2014 by celticprince
Buy an ASUS Google Nexus 7 (2013) (ASUS-1A007A – 16gb WiFi) from any UK based retailer, reseller or etailer during the promotional periods of 00.001 (GMT) on the 5th May 2014 throu… Read more
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luisman01

Was hoping to use my credits to purchase a new case for my N7 and perhaps … Was hoping to use my credits to purchase a new case for my N7 and perhaps a Chromecast device but unfortunately everything from the devices section of Google Play store is excluded :-(



Hi All

I am awaiting my credit, but in the meantime I ordered a wireless charging case for my Nokia 925 from Amazon and was going to order the Nexus wireless charger to use with the 925 and my Nexus 7. Does this mean that I cannot order the charger using this £50 credit?

I have seen this on the Asuspromotions website but it is not clear if Device accessories are excluded:

The Reward is subject to the following Google Play terms and conditions: … The Reward is subject to the following Google Play terms and conditions: Good for one £50 Google Play credit. Not reloadable; no cash value. Offer expires on, and must be added to a Google Wallet account by 1st May 2015. Once added, credit must be used on Google Play by 1st May 2015. Devices and subscriptions excluded. Offer good in United Kingdom only. Must be 13+ years old and UK resident, have Internet access, and qualify for and have a UK Google Wallet account. See https://play.google.com/intl/en_uk/about/offer-terms.html for more information.



I still have time to cancel the Nokia charging case if needed?

Cheers



Edited by: "celticprince" 24th May 2014

I got my claim validated today, should get my voucher within 30 days

thank you

I think the terms said a year from now?

Anyone know how long the credit is valid for?
25% off Official Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 cases at Google Play.
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I know they're expensive but we all like to have the official cases right? Google now have 25% off the Official Cases on the Google Play store. Nexus 7 Folio https://play.googl… Read more
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I like the. Nexus 5 bumper case in red looks quality but I like the naked n5 great looks and great feel

aaronm360

How can you possibly call me a fanboy when I don't even have an Apple … How can you possibly call me a fanboy when I don't even have an Apple phone - I have a Nexus 5 - hence I am commenting on a Google deal, and stating that their competitors are far better value - a fair criticism?!Totally unneeded and unjustified response!


I saw that humourless post and still now cannot work out what relevance it has to anything. Don't take it personally, simply click ignore on that user and enjoy the rest of your day.

WBRacing

It's getting close to the cost of an iPhone BooBook case - a friend has … It's getting close to the cost of an iPhone BooBook case - a friend has one and it is a really classy piece of kit, if that is your thing. http://twelvesouth.com/products/bookbook_iphone/The two products however as far as quality and materials go, are in different leagues I will wager.




How is that relevant. It's not for the Nexus 5 or 7. Plank

aaronm360

Not for the LG QuickCover for Nexus 5 they haven't. £10.99? I think it's … Not for the LG QuickCover for Nexus 5 they haven't. £10.99? I think it's absolutely preposterous! Apple offers free delivery, as does Amazon, most eBay, Play.com and a vast majority of other online retailers. To add insult to injury, you absolutely cannot find this in any phone shop or the like anywhere. Google should be ashamed. Apple's cases are a much higher quality and CHEAPER too!



It's getting close to the cost of an iPhone BooBook case - a friend has one and it is a really classy piece of kit, if that is your thing. twelvesouth.com/pro…ne/

The two products however as far as quality and materials go, are in different leagues I will wager.

Edited by: "WBRacing" 22nd Jan 2014
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