Spring Budget 15th Mar 2023 - Energy Price Guarantee extended to June / pension lifetime allowance abolished / 30 hrs free childcare

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Posted 14th Mar 2023
Update 1
Spring Budget now announced

  • Energy price guarantee stays at £2,500 for next three months until end of June
  • Free childcare of 30 hours a week for working parents in England is being expanded to cover children from the age of nine months to two years old but will only be fully implemented by September 2025
  • Scrapping the lifetime allowance on tax-free pension contributions, which is currently £1.07m
  • More announcements in post
Chancellor Jeremy Hunt will deliver the Spring budget on 15th March. Should be around 12:30pm after PMQ's. It will be accompanied by the latest economic and fiscal outlook from the OBR, with indications suggesting a shallower recession than previous thinking. Below is a summary of the 16 expected changes for the Spring budget, with a focus on halving inflation, growing the economy and reducing public debt. Will update tomorrow with the actual confirmed budget policies/decisions.


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Key announcements from the Spring budget


  • Energy price guarantee stays at £2,500 for next three months
  • 30 hours of free childcare for children aged over nine months with working parents by September 2025
  • The £1m Lifetime Allowance charge will be removed before being abolished altogether
  • Pre-payment meter charges in line with comparable direct debit charges
  • £63m fund to keep public leisure centres and pools afloat
  • Charities department to get cash injection of £100m
  • £10m over two years to help voluntary sector with suicide prevention
  • From 1 August, duty on draught products in pubs 11p lower than supermarkets
  • Fuel duty frozen for the next 12 months
  • £11bn added to defence budget over five years - and nearly 2.25% of GDP by 2025. Aim to raise this to 2.5% as soon as possible
  • £30m to increase support and housing for veterans
  • 12 new investment zones confirmed - "12 potential Canary Wharfs". If chosen, areas will have access to £80m of support
  • £200m invested in local regeneration projects across England
  • £161m for regeneration projects in Mayoral Combined Authorities and the Greater London Authority
  • £400m for new Levelling Up Partnerships in areas including Redcar and Cleveland, Blackburn, Oldham, Rochdale, Mansfield, South Tyneside and Bassetlaw
  • Second round of the City Region Sustainable Transport Settlements, allocating £8.8bn over next five-year funding period
  • Potholes Fund boosted by £200m
  • In Scotland, £8.6m of targeted funding for the Edinburgh Festivals and £1.5m funding to repair the Cloddach Bridge
  • £20m for the Welsh government to restore the Holyhead Breakwater
  • In Northern Ireland, £3m to extend the Tackling Paramilitarism Programme and up to £40m to extend further and higher education participation
  • Greater responsibility for local leaders to grow their local economy
  • On business taxation, there will be a new policy of "full expensing" for next three years, with intention to make it permanent
  • Enhanced credit for small and medium-sized businesses that spend on R&D - a £1.8bn package of support
  • 45% and 50% tax reliefs extended for theatres, orchestras and museums
  • Climate Change Agreement scheme extended for two years
  • £20bn allocated for development of Carbon Capture Usage and Storage. This will support up to 50,000 jobs
  • Subject to consultation, nuclear power to be classed as "environmentally sustainable" in green taxonomy
  • "Great British Nuclear" to help nuclear provide one quarter of electricity by 2050. UK is launching the first competition for Small Modular Reactors
  • £900m of funding to implement recommendations in independent review for an exascale supercomputer
  • Research and innovation programme of £2.5bn set out in quantum strategy
  • Prize of £1m a year for 10 years to ground-breaking AI research - the Manchester Prize
  • White paper to be published on disability benefits reform. Plans will abolish the Work Capability Assessment in Great Britain and separate benefit entitlement from an individual's ability to work
  • Universal Support announced for England and Wales. This is a voluntary employment scheme for disabled people which will invest up to £4,000 to help get them into work
  • £400m plan to increase availability of mental health support and expand Individual Placement and Support scheme
  • Pensions annual tax-free allowance upped by 50% from £40,000 to £60,000
  • "Returnerships" apprenticeship targeted at the over-50s will refine existing skills programmes to make them more accessible to older workers
  • Pilot of £600 incentive for childminders who sign up to the profession, rising to £1,200 for those who join through an agency
  • Funding to nurseries providing free childcare up by £204m from this September - rising to £288m
  • Childcare costs of parents moving into work or increasing their hours on Universal Credit paid upfront rather than in arrears - and increased by around 50%
  • The government will change minimum staff-to-child ratios from 1:4 to 1:5 for two-year-olds in England but make it "optional"
  • All schools in England to offer wrap-around care either side of the school day for children by September 2026

Credit Sky News for summary info




Key things expected in budget / predictions


1. Energy Bills

Prediction: Support for Energy bills from the government is expected to continue for three months from April. The chancellor is expected to cancel a reduction in support that would have seen typical annual bills rise from £2500 to £3000, under the Energy Price guarantee.

What has now been confirmed: Now confirmed, Energy Price Guarantee stays at £2,500 for next three months until end of June

2. Prepayment energy meter bills

Prediction: More than four million households prepayment energy meter bills will be cut by £45 a year on energy bills from 1 July. This will happen by bringing prepayment energy charges in line with customers who pay by direct debit,

What has now been confirmed: Now confirmed, Pre-payment meter charges in line with comparable direct debit charges

3. Pension tax allowance

Prediction: The chancellor is expected to increase the lifetime allowance - the amount you can accumulate in your pension pot before paying extra tax. It could rise to £1.8m from the current limit of £1.07m. The amount workers can save into a pension before paying tax could rise to £60,000, from £40,000.

What has now been confirmed: The changes went further. The £1m Lifetime Allowance charge will be removed before being abolished altogether. Pensions annual tax-free allowance upped by 50% from £40,000 to £60,000


4. Universal credit childcare costs

Prediction: Families on universal credit could get more help - receiving childcare funding upfront, instead of having to claim it back. The £646-a-month per child cap on support for universal credit claimants is also expected to be raised by a few hundred pounds.

What has now been confirmed: Could not see any confirmation on this, so assume no change.

5. State pension age

Prediction: Currently, men and women start drawing their state pensions when they turn 66. That is due to gradually increase to 67 between 2026 and 2028, and to 68 between 2044 and 2046. Reports suggest a review will recommend that the increase to 68 is brought forward to the mid-2030s.

What has now been confirmed: Could not see any confirmation on this, so assume no change.

6. Fuel Duty

Prediction: Fuel duty could be frozen for a year. The government cut the tax by 5p in March, but that is due to end on 31 March. Plus with RPI inflation increases this could add a further 7p to the price of a litre of fuel (so a potential rise of 12p if no government action taken).

What has now been confirmed: Fuel duty frozen for the next 12 months


7. Investment zones for businesses

Prediction: 12 new Investment Zones across England are to be announced. Each will be backed with £80m of funding, including tax incentives.

What has now been confirmed: 12 new investment zones confirmed - "12 potential Canary Wharfs". If chosen, areas will have access to £80m of support

8. Corporation tax

Prediction: Tax paid by businesses is expected to rise from 19% to 25% in April. The rise is expected to go ahead.

What has now been confirmed: The planned increase from 19% to 25% in April will go ahead.

9. Long-term sick back to work

Prediction: The Chancellor is reportedly planning a ‘sick note crackdown’ - with a focus on getting long term sick people back into work. One idea under consideration is a new approach to how GPs decide whether people are too ill to work. Will wait to see whats announced.

What has now been confirmed: could not see anything confirmed in the budget around this.

10, Cigarettes and alcohol

Prediction: The price of a pack of cigarettes is expected to rise by £1.15 in line with RPI at tomorrow’s Budget. However alcohol duty is expected to be frozen until August.

What has now been confirmed: From 1 August, duty on draught products in pubs 11p lower than supermarkets


11. Public sector pay

Prediction: it is expected that there will be an announcement on public sector pay. The government has previously said existing department budgets only allow for a 3.5% public sector pay rise, but there are suggestion that this may increase by up to 5%

What has now been confirmed: Could not see anything confirmed on this.

12. Veterans

Prediction: Veterans to receive £33m funding package. The money will go towards a housing fund that will provide extra housing for veterans

What has now been confirmed: £30m to increase support and housing for veterans


13. Swimming pools

Prediction: England’s struggling swimming pools are to be offered a lifeline in the budget with the creation of a £63m fund to ease cost pressures.

What has now been confirmed: £63m fund to keep public leisure centres and pools afloat

14. Cleaner energy investment

Prediction: Expected to promise £1 billion a year for technology which can help capture carbon emissions. The £20 billion investment package will be made available over 20 years.

What has now been confirmed: £20bn allocated for development of Carbon Capture Usage and Storage. This will support up to 50,000 jobs

15. Defence spending

Prediction: The Prime Minister has recently stated that he UK's defence budget would be boosted by £5 billion in the Budget. Will await announcements tomorrow.

What has now been confirmed: £11bn added to defence budget over five years - and nearly 2.25% of GDP by 2025. Aim to raise this to 2.5% as soon as possible

16. Childcare:

Prediction: Free childcare for working parents in England is expected to be expanded in Wednesday's Budget to cover one and two-year-olds. Currently, working parents with three and four-year-olds are eligible for 30 hours of free childcare per week.

What has now been confirmed: Free childcare of 30 hours a week for working parents in England is being expanded to cover children from the age of nine months to two years old but will only be fully implemented by September 2025



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Sources / related discussions

Spring budget 2023: When is it and what is likely to be in Jeremy Hunt's financial statement? - Sky News

Budget 2023: What could be in it and when will it happen? - BBC News

Budget 2023: Eight predictions for Jeremy Hunt's spring statement - Telegraph

Budget 2023: 11 expected announcements and what they mean for you - Local reach

Five things to look out for in Jeremy Hunt’s Budget - Financial Times

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  1. r9000's avatar
    r9000
    I'm not rich or a pensioner so I get nothing.
    Enchante's avatar
    Enchante
    So you know what to do in 2024.
  2. dlo247's avatar
    dlo247
    2023 and still going backwards.
  3. MoHoneyMoProblems's avatar
    MoHoneyMoProblems
    And like clockwork Labour has come out to say they’ll undo the pension changes as soon as they get in next year.

    This is the real reason why the situation is such a mess. No-one trusts the government because even they don’t have the power to guarantee their own promises.

    The pension cap change is (correctly) going to be seen as an obvious trap by anyone approaching pension age.  Work longer, pay more into the pot, then before you can get near it we’ll be back to change the rules and take 55% of it.

    No wonder people in the UK would rather waste their money on new phones and cars than saving for the future.
    Enchante's avatar
    Enchante
    The pension changes only really effect a minority of people , most will get nowhere near the cap. The average pension pot is about £50k but as with all things averages and money , that’s going to be heavily skewed towards a few with a lot and many with far far less. 

    The pension time bomb is something successive governments keep ignoring and basically hoping it won’t go off whilst they are in power: too many are relying solely on the state pension for their retirement but this won’t be enough , but many are also likely to be unfit for any jobs that will exist , and the reduction in taxes combined with even greater use of the NHS …, kaboom. 
  4. sashablue's avatar
    sashablue
    Create and maintain the divide economically and by region to keep the One percent happy. No change as usual
  5. moneysaver80's avatar
    moneysaver80
    Rubbish budget.
    bhaskarsa's avatar
    bhaskarsa
    100% agree
  6. Ism10's avatar
    Ism10
    Here is a summary of the budget:

    1. Provided extra Childcare as long as both parents work
    2. Froze tax bands until 2028 so every year more people pay more tax
    3. Allowed those with no moneys worries to squirrel away as much as they want in pensions for tax breaks
    Solee's avatar
    Solee
    Allowed those with no moneys worries to squirrel away as much as they want in pensions for tax breaks

    Always been interested in peoples view of this, should we encourage those who have well paid positions and jobs to pay so much tax they're also having money worries to drag everyone down ? Or do you mean something else ? (edited)
  7. chillyemily's avatar
    chillyemily
    So childcare support will not be fully implemented until Sep 2025!!
    We need help now!!!
    bhaskarsa's avatar
    bhaskarsa
    After the next General election, how convenient?
  8. joebaker123's avatar
    joebaker123
    • "Potholes Fund boosted by £200m" - No need to boost. Just implement quality control & warranty system as part of the works done by drunk cousin ltd.
  9. gg1pl's avatar
    gg1pl
    Good to see Tory support again for companies like BP, Shell who have doubled/tripled profits, able to pay even less tax by offsetting (fiddling figures) against investments, even getting hundreds of millions refunded by the taxman

    If wholesale costs really rose in-line with our energy bills/pump prices, profits should remain level. Pure war profiteering with Ukraine invasion as an excuse to triple our bills with Tory support

    No surprise since Liz worked for them & bribed with £100k from boss of BP to make billpayers & taxpayers pay instead of affecting billions of windfall profit or millions in CEO bonuses

    After destroying economy to lowest level too, reward was £115k pension for 44 days of incompetence

    Yet Tory voters keep mentioning Corbyn/Labour like they would be worse than the worst PMs and government ever (edited)
    shmuli9's avatar
    shmuli9
    TL;DR but your first point about gas companies getting tax benefits was disappointing.
    I was hoping they would add a caveat to the tax changes wrt investment, so that fossil fuel investments wouldn’t count.
    That being said a lot of investment is needed to cap wells and cleanup and I guess that should be encouraged 🤷‍♂️. Just not sure this is the way to do it
  10. leeroy_tmofo's avatar
    leeroy_tmofo
    Great news the wealthy and well off will save billions in tax on pensions.

    I mean, who here isn't putting 1K a week away for their pension?

    It's definitely not just bankers and the very well off. I'm sure all of us have four figures left over every week to put aside for retirement (if you haven't, you're probably just lazy).

    Hopefully they can price another generation out of housing when they invest that into a third or fourth home and those of us in the middle can all continue to lap up the highest tax burden and the lowest period of growth the UK has ever "enjoyed".

    I'm so so happy over two thirds of UK GDP now goes to less than 1% of people as well. Marvellous news it's up from half of all UK GDP going to them inside 13 years - much rather they can buy another yacht then any of it go to help all the homeless I now need to step over whenever I find myself in town (largely boarded up, of course). I think we can all agree trickle down definitely works and we are all infinitely better off, with more rights, and cleaner air and drinking water for shovelling more of our wages into their pockets.

    Wibble. (edited)
  11. joebaker123's avatar
    joebaker123
    The increase in corporation tax from 19% to 25% - Amazon, Costa, Nero, YouNameIt, pays 0% anyway, so this is going to gut every single shop/business around the corner. Forget about payrises and bonuses.
    Joign123's avatar
    Joign123
    No it won't. The 25% corporation tax rate is only going to affect companies with profits exceeding £250k which is about 10% of all companies in the UK.

    Your local small business will make nowhere near that much profit. (edited)
  12. cubensis's avatar
    cubensis
    The reason we are all on our knees is not because of taxes only it's because the government chooses austerity and to take the easy path of going with the companies that are consistently lobbying.

    Any money that we can reinvest into people - actual normal human beings should be favoured in any guise in my opinion, this is not our target for frustration. I'd far prefer my taxes to go onto people and the potential for properly nurtured children rather than a huge defence budget and the removal of local council funding to save on money.

    We need less focus on our fellow people as being the problem, that's the distraction the government and papers use to keep us distracted from the actual issues. Let's give each other a break and focus on the government removing funding, social structure and huge amounts of money being funelled into the wrong places.
    deleted2130460's avatar
    Anonymous User
    It's so heartwarming to see someone believe that people are inherently good and not the problem. In an ideal world, people would never be greedy, self-serving, or shortsighted. But, alas, we live in a world where even the most well-intentioned of us occasionally fight over the last slice of pizza.
  13. ChilliPakoda's avatar
    ChilliPakoda
    I believe it was just a hype from news, or media. Budgets are like carrot hanged in front of donkeys for future chase i.e 2025... Whoever will be in charge in 2024 or 2025 will eat the carrot (reverse or cuts the benefits) and leave donkeys alone....
    bhaskarsa's avatar
    bhaskarsa
    the next uk general election has to be by 23 January 2025


    might happen before that date
  14. Chanchi32's avatar
    Chanchi32 Author
    30 hours of childcare a week for one and two-year-olds

    news.sky.com/sto…830
    BootyBandit's avatar
    BootyBandit
    I'm amazed they're still going as if the hate they gleaned from the daily mail counts as knowledge.
    thanks for the informative contribution to this conversation, hopefully some will learn something from your efforts
  15. u664541's avatar
    u664541
    I’m sure people earning average salaries will be buoyed by the proposed increase in pension contributions to be raised from £40k max to £60k whilst starting rate of tax has stalled.
    shmuli9's avatar
    shmuli9
    I found this
    quite helpful/thoughtful.
    He explains some of justifications and criticisms of the policies announced yesterday
  16. Raji77's avatar
    Raji77
    Another budget that is favoured towards the wealthy. If your able to put £40000 into your pension you must more than likely have quite a good salary. They are now increasing that to £60000 a year and removing the LTA which more than likely is for the wealthier amongst society. We’re are the in centives for the people that actually need more money in their pocket. Why hasn’t the personal allowance been raised or tax thresholds been increased. Even the frigging inheritance tax threshold has stood the same whilst the wealthy can shovel more into their pension as a means do get more money out of their estate, with the tax relief to boot. 
  17. CD2DD's avatar
    CD2DD
    Once Again as every government have done in every budget.
    MIDDLE FINGER TO MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE.
    We are born to pay taxes and will die paying taxes
    gg1pl's avatar
    gg1pl
    Poor, pensioners, middle-class most affected by Selfservative policies making them worse off keep supporting them as they keep dangling the strong on immigration & illegal migration carrot

    2016 saying we'll control our borders, 2019 reduce their numbers yet in 2022/23 reward was record net migration of 500k and people in boats increased from 3k to 45k, the highest ever!

    They'll keep believing these easy vote promises despite being the biggest failures/Selfservatives don't actually care as it's a Con to keep them in power (edited)
  18. luffydude's avatar
    luffydude
    Business tax up means higher prices for everyone. Agenda of forced poverty
  19. bozo007's avatar
    bozo007
    Until the budget is announced tomorrow, all the discussion will be just speculation. Unless someone has inside information.
  20. deleted2130460's avatar
    Anonymous User
    Based on the key announcements from the Spring budget, the following groups of people are most likely to benefit:

    Working parents: With the expansion of 30 hours of free childcare for children aged over nine months, working parents will benefit from more affordable childcare. This will help reduce the cost burden and potentially enable parents to work more hours.
    Pension savers: The Lifetime Allowance charge removal and increase in pensions annual tax-free allowance will benefit those saving for retirement. This change encourages more saving and investment in pension funds.
    Low-income households: The extension of the Energy Price Guarantee at £2,500 and alignment of pre-payment meter charges with direct debit charges will help low-income households by reducing their energy costs.
    Veterans: The £30m allocation for support and housing for veterans will benefit those who have served in the military and are in need of assistance.
    Disabled individuals: The disability benefits reform and Universal Support will provide voluntary employment support for disabled individuals. This will help them get into work and improve their financial situation.
    Small and medium-sized businesses: The £1.8bn package of support, including enhanced credit for R&D, will benefit businesses by encouraging innovation and growth.
    People in need of mental health support: The £400m plan to increase mental health support will benefit those struggling with mental health issues by providing better access to services.
    Older workers: The "Returnerships" apprenticeship for over-50s will help refine existing skills programs, making them more accessible for older workers and helping them remain in the workforce.
    On the other hand, those who may not benefit as much or could face disadvantages are:

    High-income earners: The increase in corporation tax from 19% to 25% may disproportionately affect high-income earners or those with investments in businesses.
    Younger workers: The delayed expansion of free childcare for working parents until September 2025 may not benefit younger workers with children under nine months who are currently struggling with childcare costs.
    Public sector workers: The lack of a confirmed increase in public sector pay beyond the previously stated 3.5% could mean that public sector workers may not see a substantial rise in their wages.
    Universal Credit claimants expecting an increase in childcare support: The absence of a confirmed increase in childcare funding for Universal Credit claimants means they may not see additional support in this area.
    Overall, the Spring budget appears to target working parents, pension savers, disabled individuals, and businesses with its various initiatives, while some groups like high-income earners and younger workers with very young children may not benefit as much from the changes.
    evildrneil's avatar
    evildrneil
    Disabled individuals: The disability benefits reform and Universal Support will provide voluntary employment support for disabled individuals. This will help them get into work and improve their financial situation.

    I doubt any disabled people will be cheering this budget. It appears from all the analysis I've seen that with the scrapping of the W.C.A. the only people who will get the increased help are those in receipt of P.I.P. All this will do is force more people to apply for P.I.P. which has a ridiculously narrow concept of disability, is already massively overloaded, is about the help needed for additional day to day living expenses rather than the ability to do work and is so badly implemented that nearly 70% of decision that are taken to tribunal are overturned. It looks like a whole lot of people, especially those with complex and fluctuating conditions, are going to lose out massively.
  21. Josu's avatar
    Josu
    I am reading and not getting
    Electricity and gas will be cheaper for next 3 months or more expensive?)
    valmiki's avatar
    valmiki
    Same prices per kWh, but no monthly rebate (the £67 a month) (edited)
  22. valmiki's avatar
    valmiki
    Re: Pensions - The big scandal is that higher paid public sector staff in all areas, not just health, will be able to fill their boots via defined benefit schemes. It makes me laugh how they are able to get huge pay rises on the backs of striking lower paid front-line staff.
    JayGatsby's avatar
    JayGatsby
    That’s not true. They can only put a limited amount into a defined benefit scheme. Any extra will likely be in a defined contribution. 
  23. JayGatsby's avatar
    JayGatsby
    Really disappointed he isn’t continuing the £66 a month on energy. Very depressing budget.
    Change_Me's avatar
    Change_Me
    Shouldn't have been given to everyone to start with tbh someone earning over 50K+ a year didn't need that help and then it could've been extended for the family's who really need it
  24. reggie_gimmix's avatar
    reggie_gimmix
    capped at 2500... still doesn't stop them from taking 284 a month form my account... sums don't add up. and they'e stopped the £67 additional help for energy bills. Council tax going up. I've just cancelled TV license and Broadband cuts off on 29th. My energy has quadrupled compared to 2 years ago and I pay almost £100 a month more on my mortgage. I'm now currently looking into emptying my freezer and fridge, buying a cool box and buying Powerstation and solar panel to charge up during day while at work so I can charge devices, and coolbox. Wonderfull ... and I work for local government. Yes never mind there's cuts and pension boosts for the rich... they're really struggling to keep up their lifestyle so they need a helping hand don't they.
    leeroy_tmofo's avatar
    leeroy_tmofo
    Afraid the 2.5K cap is the "average" estimate. Like most things about this government, it's almost deliberately disingenuous.
  25. leeroy_tmofo's avatar
    leeroy_tmofo
    Just out of interest, is anyone here saving 1K a week toward their pension?

    Anyone here remotely near that (or know someone near it)?

    It seems a really odd thing to prioritise in the budget given everyone I know is close to going under right now. (edited)
    ark.sez's avatar
    ark.sez
    George's chums are most likely all giving 1k a week towards their pensions. Of course that's prioritised given how the Tory know they'll be shafted in the next election.
  26. valmiki's avatar
    valmiki
    What a great time to be middle management in the public sector
  27. whats_the_deal's avatar
    whats_the_deal
    Imagine having a child and at nine months old putting it in the care of anyone save immediate family.
    deleted2130460's avatar
    Anonymous User
    Nurseries before today had limited spaces due to not being able to affor to pay staff with the amount goverment pay nurseries for the place, now there is going to be this there will be even less, many will be suprised when they find out they can't find a nursery in an hours drive willing to take the free hours.

    and if they do you should really be questioning the level of care there able to provide.
  28. Save.the.Pound's avatar
    Save.the.Pound
    Victoria Derbyshire was right!
    Save.the.Pound's avatar
    Save.the.Pound
    (edited)
  29. deleted2130460's avatar
    Anonymous User
    The majority of people might be in the same boat and reading this might answer your questions


    It's not uncommon for people to feel that the announced changes in budgets, like the ones in the UK's Spring budget, may not lead to significant improvements in their lives. For middle-income families, it can sometimes feel like the changes are simply redistributing the financial burden without providing substantial benefits.

    It's important to consider that the budget is trying to address a wide range of issues and concerns for various demographics within the country. Some of the changes may have a more direct impact on lower-income households or specific groups, such as veterans or disabled individuals.

    For middle-income families like yours, some measures in the budget might still have a positive effect, even if they do not lead to a drastic change in your overall financial situation:

    Freezing fuel duty for 12 months may provide some relief on transportation costs.
    The expansion of free childcare hours for younger children could potentially save families thousands of pounds in childcare expenses over time, although this may take a few years to be fully implemented.
    The increase in the pension annual tax-free allowance from £40,000 to £60,000 may offer long-term benefits by allowing you to save more for retirement without incurring additional taxes.
    The £900 million investment in an exascale supercomputer and the research and innovation programme of £2.5 billion set out in the quantum strategy could potentially create new job opportunities and contribute to economic growth, which may indirectly benefit middle-income families.
    While it's true that some changes in the budget may not have an immediate or significant impact on your family's financial situation, they are part of a broader set of policies designed to address various societal needs and promote economic growth. It's important to view these changes in the context of the bigger picture and how they may contribute to the overall well-being of the country.
    leeroy_tmofo's avatar
    leeroy_tmofo
    Who the hell is saving 1K a week for their pension?

    That is a huge gift to the very very well off in the UK surely?

    I barely know anyone who even makes 40-60K a year, let alone anyone who is putting that away for retirement.

    It's a budget for bankers isn't it?
  30. JustaSingh's avatar
    JustaSingh
    corp tax goes up. The only ones who pay this properly are the small and medium sized businesses who don't have access to expensive lawyers, accountants, bankers and those in power.

    If plebs and SMEs used the same tax fudging practices like Amazon, Apple, MSoft etc do you reckon they'd take it easy on us?

    Its a big scam. i.e. in 2019 Ngolo Kante paid more in Tax than amazon on Corp tax £1.7m .
    Joign123's avatar
    Joign123
    No it won't. The 25% corporation tax rate is only going to affect companies with profits exceeding £250k which is about 10% of all companies in the UK.

    Your local small business will make nowhere near that much profit.
  31. AoifeNet's avatar
    AoifeNet
    25% of power generated will be by nuclear? Awesome. 

    Oh wait… by 2050, which arguably means 2075, and then 2085 when it’s deemed not economically viable. 
    mrT786's avatar
    mrT786
    Like everything all government's kick the can down the road and make it someone else's problem in the future.

    Same crap when widening motorways on the cheap by using hard shoulder. Deathtrap.

    Same with generating power they should have hard longer terms solutions decade's ago so we didn't have to be so reliant on imports and price fluctuations
  32. Felipe.Lopes's avatar
    Felipe.Lopes
    Corporation tax for most contractors will go to 26.5%, not 25% as most don't make more than £250k a year. This is insane. All to pay for the pandemic decisions.
  33. Adam's avatar
    Adam
    Opinion on this 2025 childcare.
    So the current government who's got a 90% chance of losing the next election (Before 2025) this isn't touching the conservatives budget.. it'll be the next governments when there's absolutely nothing left over because the Tories have constantly siphoned it out into their mates companies over the past few years.
    No wonder they don't want a GE now! It's a year or so when they've emptied the lot. (edited)
  34. leeroy_tmofo's avatar
    leeroy_tmofo
    Not strictly budget related (and sort of expect it to be pulled), but anyone else absolutely cracking up that "Let them eat turnips" wasn't aware most were grown in her constituency (and the biggest grower had quit months prior because of no pickers and run away costs)?

    Finger on the pulse this lot!

    theguardian.com/foo…-up
  35. bluetang's avatar
    bluetang
    Yet again nothing at all for carers of adults. It’s all about childcare - what about adults?
  36. Miller256's avatar
    Miller256
    It's interesting the number of comments criticising this government are suddenly allowed in this thread, although maybe the sheer volume of them means it's taking our impartial moderators longer to delete them all.

    The only populace who get anything right are the French and we need to follow their lead.
    gg1pl's avatar
    gg1pl
    Feel free to praise them for everything they're good at except making themselves, friends, family, bankers, CEOs and energy companies even richer and making record profits at the expense of everyone else

    Slim pickings when they're officially the worst PMs and government in history for nearly everything, they're even the worst ever for what Tories say & what their supporters think they're good at, with 500k coming in and 46k from boats

    Good luck (edited)
  37. Ism10's avatar
    Ism10
    I'm so glad that the 1 million pounds lifetime pension allowance has been abolished. I was worried how I was going to manage as I'd been putting in £3000 per month in my pension for that last 25 years!
    andiron87's avatar
    andiron87
    Same, I can now start putting a million a month to make ends meet when I retire at the age of 70.
    I was getting worried..
  38. dalbncl's avatar
    dalbncl
    Wonder how much more hammering the British public can take from Tory policy
    JustaSingh's avatar
    JustaSingh
    plenty... Brits aren't the first population in history to have been 'broken'. Do you think Labour (in its current guise) would be any different? The window dressing might be different but the merchandise is the same
  39. .MUFC.'s avatar
    .MUFC.
    Raising corporation tax is merely going to kill small to medium businesses. As we know the big corporations play the system and dodge it offshore etc.
    joebaker123's avatar
    joebaker123
    Exactly what I was saying. Still people dare to argue about it..
  40. 1988dave's avatar
    1988dave
    The fact that this budget was aimed at the rich just shows the divide in this country... The free childcare is a joke as it will be set hours to suit again office workers and hours... The elite....and is it really free? Or will the lowest earners get the brunt of it with more taxes is the near future? Its funny that people have not woken up and realised that uk offers us nothing for free (edited)
    Solee's avatar
    Solee
    Its funny that people have not woken up and realised that uk offers us nothing for free

    It never has been free, anything that is "free" is subsidized in some way through taxation or other means of generating money, someone has to pick up the bill somewhere along the line.

    Or will the lowest earners get the brunt of it with more taxes is the near future?

    Probably because of the conflict and inflation we're in a sticky situation due to lack of investment from both parties (nuclear) and now paying the price for it literally. (edited)
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