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le CPU. AMD Ryzen 5 1400  - Amazon .fr - £111.12
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AMD Ryzen 5 1400 @ frenchy amazon €125.73
Now even less GBP 105 (its garlic based TIM)
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Oneday774 h, 38 m ago

You are technically correct. However anyone ‘upgrading’ to a 1400 won’t hav …You are technically correct. However anyone ‘upgrading’ to a 1400 won’t have an AM4 board.


Exactly
mange25 m ago

Also the APU's use a TIM (thermal interface material) which isnt metal. …Also the APU's use a TIM (thermal interface material) which isnt metal. The non APU's use a metal TIM.


It’s not like this is an Intel i9 that would get so hot that Nuclear Fusion is almost attainable.
As always the TIM is relative to the CPU and the media are making it a big thing, despite it not being.
Before integrated heat spreaders there was no ‘solder’ it was TIM directly on the due to heatsink plate.
LiamSmith785 m ago

you dont need to upgrade your motherboard for the new AMD APUs . they're …you dont need to upgrade your motherboard for the new AMD APUs . they're still AM4.


You are technically correct. However anyone ‘upgrading’ to a 1400 won’t have an AM4 board.
MIDURIX17th Feb

They would be upgrading with a new mobo also.


you dont need to upgrade your motherboard for the new AMD APUs . they're still AM4.
AMD's newest APU 2200G for £88.98 at Ebuyer
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Great price for an APU with AMD's latest technologies (Ryzen 4-core with Vega 8 graphics). You don't need a graphics card with this but can add one as an option later, compatible w… Read more
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Wonderlanddoll14 h, 46 m ago

Looking for a basic budget first time build (very new to this!). Need a pc …Looking for a basic budget first time build (very new to this!). Need a pc for work (I'm only answering emails/book keeping!) but would like to be able to upgrade later for gaming (when prices drop). Is this a good option for me? I haven't taken the plunge and bought any components yet so any recommended compatible parts would be helpful!


You can't go wrong with choosing AMD's AM4 platform, as AM4 motherboards (which are comparatively cheaper than Intel's) are compatible with this or any of AMD's Ryzen CPUs, including Ryzen+ 2000-series coming in April, and will last a gen even after that at least. So once you plumb for AM4, it's a question of whether you want to go super cheap but performant and then upgrade to a new CPU or GPU later with the 2200G, or spend quite a lot more money on a separate CPU (Ryzen 1600) along with a dGPU to go with it (cheaper options like RX 560 or GTX 1050 Ti) which have quite a bit more performance and will be ok to get by 1080p gaming at lower settings.
Surely anyone serious about playing 1080p games on high/ultra settings knows that a £89 APU isn't going to cut it. What does make sense is the AM4 motherboard taking all the ryzen 3,5 and 7 processors. So perhaps this would be a good stepping stone to building a lower end PC.
Edited by: "mrniallcameron" 15th Feb
Looking for a basic budget first time build (very new to this!). Need a pc for work (I'm only answering emails/book keeping!) but would like to be able to upgrade later for gaming (when prices drop). Is this a good option for me? I haven't taken the plunge and bought any components yet so any recommended compatible parts would be helpful!
Gaming and this CPU do not make sense... unless you plan to play faster than light, dont say this is good for gaming, its not and never will be... the PS4 has more grunt and will be better for gaming.
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Tom_Reys1 h, 33 m ago

whats the cheapest motherboard you can get for this?


I think this is the cheapest if not one of the cheapest:

ebuyer.com/792…pro

Biostar AMD A320MD Pro Socket AM4 mATX Motherboard. £42.99.
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G APU at Amazon.es 141GBP £149 delivered
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I was waitinting for this Ryzen for month and I did not managed to find it in Lithuania. Just ordered from Amazon.es for 168€ (incl shipping). Subtotal de producto(s):EUR 131,40 E… Read more
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philjstephenson3 h, 20 m ago

anyone know how this comes to an i7 3770, dont do any gaming at all, its …anyone know how this comes to an i7 3770, dont do any gaming at all, its usually watching 1080/2160 movies and or converting stuff to DVD?IM torn as there are a lot of cheaper Ryzens coming out, i need to build me a new system and i want the best bang for my buck....


Sideways move. I think with your useage, as long as you have a cheap gpu in your 3770 system the 2400G would perform roughly the same.
Put it another way your current pc is fine for what you are doing.
Edited by: "joe_shmoe" 13th Feb
anyone know how this comes to an i7 3770, dont do any gaming at all, its usually watching 1080/2160 movies and or converting stuff to DVD?

IM torn as there are a lot of cheaper Ryzens coming out, i need to build me a new system and i want the best bang for my buck....
Seems a very good time to get into an all in one option for gaming fanatics at a value price, especially as all the AMD Ryzen Threadrippers will be rocketing in price and becoming like unicorns to find very shortly!
Holding off until AMD get the stuttering sorted out in games with whatever bios update and the occasional blue screens of death/refusal to start games/freezes when overclocking in some games. Early days, I know, and having to pair it with not just fast memory but dual channel to hit the higher fps/semi decent quality settings is a bit of a pain, convenience/price wise if trying to make a small build that will only take two sticks of ram, but... looks promising and more promising still with whatever APU upgrade AMD supersede this APU with.

I am keeping an eye on the price of the i3 8100. Still feels like a terrible time to be building PCs but hopefully component prices will change in the not too distant future.
Yeah, looks like 2200G paired with DDR4 3200, and an overclock on the APU cores is the way to go.

From hardware unboxed's testing, the 2400G's 11 vega CUs appear to benefit little from overclocking, presumably because they're already very close to the memory bandwidth limits of DDR4 3200.

Whereas the 2200G's 8 vega CUs stock performance leaves it with some memory bandwidth to spare and so benefit greatly from an overclock, very nearly matching the performance of the 2400G's 11 CUs @ stock.

On a side note, Ryzen was already quite reliant on fast ram; these APU's make it even more so.
The current ram market must be really hurting AMD's chances of expanding their market share at the bottom end.

Spending almost as much on 8GB of fast ram, as on a capable CPU AND iGPU.... that's just ridiculous.

Also when you can get the cheapest B350's for ~£60, less than £15 more than the absolute cheapest A320 boards, it seems to me like the A320 chipset is pointless.
Edited by: "TehJumpingJawa" 13th Feb
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Ryzen 1800X £200 discount - £266.34 @ Amazon
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Seen it on here recently but its even cheaper now. I've been checking the price for a while now, £200 off is the best bargain I've seen in a long time.
Slow at games.
joe_shmoe11 h, 17 m ago

I would be surprised if asus dont fix that, ..3 yr intel board, bios code …I would be surprised if asus dont fix that, ..3 yr intel board, bios code must be very interchangeable.(bit o this , bit o that) Worst case is , I BET you could find a custom bios online pretty soon.People make them for O.E.M. machines to update hardware acceptance often.


They produced a list and mine won't be getting any updates, i even emailed them, and the last bios update it got was 2016, but yeah i may look into this custom bios thing, but if i see a AMD bundle i will just grab it at this point, but thanks for the custom bios thing i heard of that but completely forgot about it.
Tim12921 h, 16 m ago

I don't understand why you have such a vendetta on AMD, completely coming …I don't understand why you have such a vendetta on AMD, completely coming across as someone with an agenda to attack them. Intel deserves far far more flack than they have gotten.


Ideally people would just ignore Nate1492, but he clearly has no reservations about putting out misinformation about AMD for some reason. As an example, in a previous deal thread, in the middle of a post bashing AMD he included an unsourced quote about a 5% slowdown - which was actually from Linus Torvalds referring to the slowdown from the Intel-specific Meltdown patch - nothing to do with AMD. Then he continued to insult me when I called him out on the actual meaning and source of the quote.

hotukdeals.com/com…947 - and my response below it.
Edited by: "Ashe" 12th Feb
Tim129226 m ago

The issue has gone right over your head. "Near zero risk" does not mean …The issue has gone right over your head. "Near zero risk" does not mean "no risk". Near zero risk can be 0.05% which means there is statistically a risk even if exceptionally small, no risk is 0.0%. They state the patch is a mitigation, not a complete fix, so whilst it will reduce the risk even more it does not mean that it is completely infallible. A reversal would be saying it is completely immune to it and then going back and saying that there is a risk, clearly not what has happened here. From the beginning they said "near zero risk", implying that it is not completely safe from the exploit. I don't understand why you have such a vendetta on AMD, completely coming across as someone with an agenda to attack them. Intel deserves far far more flack than they have gotten. Meltdown is a far worse exploit and is present in over 20 years of their CPUs, some of the oldest ones are still in use and will never be patched or cannot be patched without a significant performance penalty. There are already prewritten scripts available online which can exploit meltdown for malicious purposes and perhaps it is only a matter of time before a large scale incident occurs. Most of the media are also acting in good faith, assuming that an attack exploiting meltdown on an Intel CPU has never occurred in the past 20 years that it has been unpatched.


I don't understand why you are so hell bent on denying AMD's faults. At no point was this a discussion about Intel, but you keep trying to turn it into one.

AMD told a bold faced lie, but because they added a word 'virtually, almost, basically whatever' immune, you seem ok with the fact that they knew it was a risk, worked on a patch, and then recanted their original statement quietly after the media hoopla died down.

Fine, I get it, you really think AMD is a good bunch of people, or something.

I've experienced Bulldozer first hand, they have a habit of straight out lying about things, 8 core processor? Nope. 4.

And now again, their language has come back in a nearly identical way.
Nate149241 m ago

They issued a correct. It was the wrong wording.This was NOT standard …They issued a correct. It was the wrong wording.This was NOT standard wording, as they *actually had a flaw they patched*. Your own link shows just as much!First press release was:@Variant TwoBranch Target InjectionDifferences in AMD architecture mean there is a near zero risk of exploitation of this variant. Vulnerability to Variant 2 has not been demonstrated on AMD processors to date.Second press release updated it to:@GPZ Variant 2 (Branch Target Injection or Spectre) is applicable to AMD processors.So no, absolutely not. This was a reversal. They 'clearly stated' they were 'low risk' which turned out to be false, as they had to patch their risk.


The issue has gone right over your head. "Near zero risk" does not mean "no risk". Near zero risk can be 0.05% which means there is statistically a risk even if exceptionally small, no risk is 0.0%. They state the patch is a mitigation, not a complete fix, so whilst it will reduce the risk even more it does not mean that it is completely infallible.

A reversal would be saying it is completely immune to it and then going back and saying that there is a risk, clearly not what has happened here. From the beginning they said "near zero risk", implying that it is not completely safe from the exploit.

I don't understand why you have such a vendetta on AMD, completely coming across as someone with an agenda to attack them. Intel deserves far far more flack than they have gotten. Meltdown is a far worse exploit and is present in over 20 years of their CPUs, some of the oldest ones are still in use and will never be patched or cannot be patched without a significant performance penalty. There are already prewritten scripts available online which can exploit meltdown for malicious purposes and perhaps it is only a matter of time before a large scale incident occurs. Most of the media are also acting in good faith, assuming that an attack exploiting meltdown on an Intel CPU has never occurred in the past 20 years that it has been unpatched.
Ryzen 1800X 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Turbo) CPU £263.97 @ Amazon UK - Prime Exclusive
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markstc7th Feb

I don't believe anyone gets to see your card details due to data …I don't believe anyone gets to see your card details due to data protection and semi same with address other then the guy that sticks the address on your parcel and they wouldn't cross check anything I'm sure since they have time limit on each parcel


Yeah I've lost count of how many prime trials I have started. You used to be able to create one, immediately cancel the sub and it would run for 30 days without a charge. More recently though, if you cancel it you will lose your 'benefits' immediately, so you just need to remember to cancel it before your trial ends.
michaeljb1 h, 25 m ago

wont they suss when you got same address, credit card ect?


I don't believe anyone gets to see your card details due to data protection and semi same with address other then the guy that sticks the address on your parcel and they wouldn't cross check anything I'm sure since they have time limit on each parcel
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SRM_871 h, 43 m ago

Setting up a new email on outlook takes only a few minutes...


wont they suss when you got same address, credit card ect?
Setting up a new email on outlook takes only a few minutes...
michaeljb1 h, 56 m ago

amazon annoy me with this prime only bs, when i spotted this deal …amazon annoy me with this prime only bs, when i spotted this deal initially it was in stock and available to all, but once they sold out they changed it over to prime only.Its the equivilent of a pay to win system, with all the best deals only for prime.


It’s a good way of getting people to join
Ludicrous Ryzen 7 1800X deal at Scan. AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 8 Core AM4 CPU/Processor for £170.47 Delivered @ Scan
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I honestly can't believe this price. Not sure if its a mistake, orders may get cancelled. Chip is on sale for a ridiculous amount.
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TehJumpingJawa3 h, 59 m ago

They're simply gambling that nobody will sue for breach of contract.For …They're simply gambling that nobody will sue for breach of contract.For £100 you'd have to be really petty to pursue it, and if you're not awarded costs you'd end up out of pocket even if you won!


Small claims is only £25, given how clear a breach of contract it is there's a good chance of winning.
jazferbetay11th Feb

I tried to bring them up about the contract and they told me items was …I tried to bring them up about the contract and they told me items was stoped from sale and therefore they could not meet the order and it had to be cancelled


They're simply gambling that nobody will sue for breach of contract.
For £100 you'd have to be really petty to pursue it, and if you're not awarded costs you'd end up out of pocket even if you won!
I tried to bring them up about the contract and they told me items was stoped from sale and therefore they could not meet the order and it had to be cancelled
Putterill41 m ago

When they take payment they send an email which contains "Payment has been …When they take payment they send an email which contains "Payment has been authorised and we accept the contract between us is now unconditional ". The Sale of Goods Act 1979 section 18 rule 1 states " Where there is an unconditional contract for the sale of specific goods in a deliverable state the property in the goods passes to the buyer when the contract is made".Make of that what you will.


I've spoken to Consumer Advice who say it's a "clear breach of contract" and have referred it to trading standards. I suggest anyone else who had payment taken and an email saying the contract was unconditional to contact either trading standards or consumer advice.
Edited by: "Putterill" 8th Feb
When they take payment they send an email which contains "Payment has been authorised and we accept the contract between us is now unconditional ".

The Sale of Goods Act 1979 section 18 rule 1 states " Where there is an unconditional contract for the sale of specific goods in a deliverable state the property in the goods passes to the buyer when the contract is made".

Make of that what you will.
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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor CPU - Black @ £753.76 @ Amazon
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mark622619 h, 15 m ago

The i57600k is faster than this for gaming. It's only by a few frames but …The i57600k is faster than this for gaming. It's only by a few frames but it's faster. If you to do other things apart from game then this is much faster. 90% of those with a desktop use it primarily for gaming.



This isn't a good comparison at all, for many reasons.

'If you do anything apart from gaming' isn't even correct. If you do things that do great with many threads, this is a good chip.

But, this chip is not ideal for 99.9% of users. I think even bringing up comparisons may confuse people into thinking this is 'the best chip for me'.

There are far better options for generic, everyday, use.

Between the i7 8700k, the i5 8400 and the Ryzen 1700... There aren't too many other chips to really consider...

If you are on a sub 200 budget, the i3 8100 and the Ryzen 1200 can enter the discussion.

But this chip? It's crazy to even suggest it's 'good' for most people as the price is outlandish combined with the motherboard.

If you need 16 cores/ 32 threads you will KNOW you need it. This is a great value for someone who needs 32 threads. But if you are sitting there going 'do I need this' the answer is absolutely NO!
Good cpu, good price, strong release, but overpriced boards ruined it for me as did high end ryzen and z370, in order to get a half decent board that had what I needed it was over £200 even £300 and the threadripper boards £300-£400 na never gonna happen the board partners are on another planet and costing sales of cpu's, and they wonder why board sales are at new lows.
I wish I knew enough about computers to build one. I take it I’m gonna need to spend a lot more then just this
The i57600k is faster than this for gaming. It's only by a few frames but it's faster. If you to do other things apart from game then this is much faster. 90% of those with a desktop use it primarily for gaming.
WOW...with that price I expect it capable of launching rockets for NASA!
AMD YD180XBCAEWOF RYZEN 7 1800X 8-Core 3.6 GHz AM4 95W Processor £267.48 @ Amazon
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Was posted a few days ago £3 cheaper, gone down in price again.
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Price back up to 297
I would only upgrade now if you need to, DDR4 and GPU prices are truly horrible ATM.
ocelot2058 m ago

Ahhh I see might just hang tight and see if any retailers slash the prices …Ahhh I see might just hang tight and see if any retailers slash the prices even more to get rid of old stock. I currently still have a i7 4790K and I can't believe they are still going for over £200. I think I only paid like £160 for it 2 years ago.


Yeah that minor inconvenience of a Referendum got in the way.
Diolusion1 h, 35 m ago

Think i heard something about Zen+ Processor chipsets coming out …Think i heard something about Zen+ Processor chipsets coming out april-ish, maybe theyre trying to shift the old stock early?



they are coming out in april, and we are looking at 200mhz speed bump and some power enhancements along with some ipc improvements

oc levels are unkknown at this time
Reigan16 m ago

we dont know much yet other than its a small refresh not a generation leap …we dont know much yet other than its a small refresh not a generation leap so expect a tiny more overclock if thats worth it for you.




Ahhh I see might just hang tight and see if any retailers slash the prices even more to get rid of old stock. I currently still have a i7 4790K and I can't believe they are still going for over £200. I think I only paid like £160 for it 2 years ago.
Edited by: "ocelot20" 22nd Jan
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Desktop CPU - AM4/Hex Core/3.6GHz – 4GHZ turbo/ 16MB/95W £176.14 - Amazon
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A reflection of the price drops rolling out? N.B. does not come with a cooler.
llukejames11 h, 25 m ago

ollie87:Patiently waiting for DDR4 prices to come down.Maybe sometime in …ollie87:Patiently waiting for DDR4 prices to come down.Maybe sometime in 2020 I'll be able to upgrade my 4670k.Haha same still on a i5 3570k I bought in 2013


Literally in the exact same boat, with the same cpu, its still handling everything I throw at it though!
How is this hot,Has been £136 at amazon.With the new gen on the way,this old stock.Wait A month and buy better.
ollie87:
Patiently waiting for DDR4 prices to come down.

Maybe sometime in 2020 I'll be able to upgrade my 4670k.

Haha same still on a i5 3570k I bought in 2013
ollie871 h, 13 m ago

Patiently waiting for DDR4 prices to come down.Maybe sometime in 2020 I'll …Patiently waiting for DDR4 prices to come down.Maybe sometime in 2020 I'll be able to upgrade my 4670k.


We should see prices lowering this year, as Samsung has increased capacity .. How much and how long is anyone's guess and other factors may cause the price to stay the same..

Looking at some of the amazon specials of late we should see them fall.

Llost1 h, 13 m ago

and then what can the 1600x be overclocked to??? More.


The 14nm lithography process that ryzen is produced on seems to hit a max of 4.2ghz (ish) regardless of the amount of cores

The ryzen 2 which is using 12nm lithography seems to be giving up to 200mhz uplift, so we could see overclocking to 4.4 to 4.5ghz.
Llost24 m ago

and then what can the 1600x be overclocked to??? More.


Not really. This arch hits a wall at 4GHz. The variance a bit either side of this is just the usual luck of the draw whether it is the X versions or not.
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X CPU Eight Core 4.0GHz Processor Socket AM4 £284.99 @ AWDIT
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AMD Ryzen 7 1800X CPU Eight Core 4.0GHz Processor Socket AM4
You really need to search on here before posting deals. The Amazon deal was posted yesterday. Albeit Amazon are out of stock.
hotukdeals.com/dea…195

You can also buy in stock from Aria for under £270 including postage. Which is better than this deal.

Try using this site.
uk.pcpartpicker.com/pro…wof

Also try pricespy.co.uk

Seems to me you posted a price you thought was good. Always wise to do checks before you post on here! As this is £15-20 cheaper elsewhere before you even factor in cashback sites.

Also when you search on here Idealo comes up at top of screen at times. Even that shows the Amazon Price much cheaper.

Cold for me.
There was a 30% price drop on this CPU last week, so it should get cheaper in the coming days...
FYI the default clock speed of the 1800X is 3.6Ghz although it can turbo to 4Ghz

It's also cheaper from Amazon - amazon.co.uk/AMD…K4G
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AMD YD180XBCAEWOF RYZEN 7 1800X 8-Core 3.6 GHz  AM4 95W Processor £264.97 @ Amazon
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It's gone up in price.
smiler034 h, 53 m ago

Can it mine one bitcoin a day, or even half a day?


You need a GPU, or several, for that.
Can it mine one bitcoin a day, or even half a day?
vulcanproject41 m ago

Binning specific to the Ryzen 8 cores is about the voltage and power …Binning specific to the Ryzen 8 cores is about the voltage and power efficiency at lower clocks. 1800X achieve their stock rated speeds at lower voltages than the 1700 and 1700X.But as my link pointed out, if you overclock that goes out the window and doesn't correlate. It doesn't guarantee higher ultimate clocks or lower voltages. It's clearly a limitation of this arch on this process. With any luck the revised Ryzen lineup out in April should hit higher clocks if nothing else. Certainly close the gap on Intel's more refined arch that can often surpass 5GHz.


Err..yeah. That was it!
bouttime252 m ago

Also with regards to binning, I've read it's not necessarily about higher …Also with regards to binning, I've read it's not necessarily about higher clocks but whether the non X versions are more stable at lower voltage. The 1700 has a TDP of 65W. Possibly the 1800X aren't stable at 65W even when set to a lower clock speed.


Binning specific to the Ryzen 8 cores is about the voltage and power efficiency at lower clocks. 1800X achieve their stock rated speeds at lower voltages than the 1700 and 1700X.

But as my link pointed out, if you overclock that goes out the window and doesn't correlate. It doesn't guarantee higher ultimate clocks or lower voltages. It's clearly a limitation of this arch on this process. With any luck the revised Ryzen lineup out in April should hit higher clocks if nothing else. Certainly close the gap on Intel's more refined arch that can often surpass 5GHz.
bouttime223 m ago

It's now £259.14 at AriaPC. I can't post the deal because AriaPC don't …It's now £259.14 at AriaPC. I can't post the deal because AriaPC don't seem to validate.



plus £8 postage
Now £151.14 at AriaPC. Cannot post the deal as t won't validate.
How low do you think the 1600 will go ahead of zen+ refresh? The zen+ update looks fairly incremental so if 1st gen R5 1600 drops much lower I’ll probably pounce for gen1 ryzen. Then upgrade to zen2/3/whatever is compatible with the same socket in the future...
Imo there will be dumping of old stick soon to get ready for Ryzen refresh..
RAM is the killer at the moment.
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JustinBedford9 h, 28 m ago

Ryzen 3 is quad core though whereas the Ryzen 5 is Hexacore. Ryzen 5 1600 …Ryzen 3 is quad core though whereas the Ryzen 5 is Hexacore. Ryzen 5 1600 I think is the sweet spot at the moment especially when oc'd to 4Ghz.


Also not forgetting the 1200 is only 4 cores 4 threads; whereas the 1600 is 6 cores 12 threads
ollie878 h, 8 m ago

I'd want dual channel for Ryzen.


So do I, but I can wait
AMD Ryzen™ 7 1700X CPU + ASUS PRIME X370-PRO Motherboard Bundle + free Quake Champions £305.47 @ Scan
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Was mulling over a new build and came across this deal on Scan, only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger is the ridiculous DDR4 prices. Oh and maybe 2nd gen Ryzen not too fa… Read more
My CPU/mobo order arrived today via DPD. Now I need to buy the rest of the parts so I can get to use this bad boy.
Yup got a delivery email so can confirm they are honouring
Looks like they are going to send it...

"Re: Delayed Order Notification

Hi,

Thank you for your custom. We're writing to give you an update on your order.

The despatch date for your order has been updated.

Your new estimated despatch date is 17 January 2018.

1.LN81378 - *3XS ONLY* ASUS PRIME X370-PRO MotherboardThis product is still on pre-order. We expect to receive more stock on 17 January 2018. Best Regards,

The Scan Team"
dan_lesser7 h, 46 m ago

There’s a surprise. Why do you hate AMD so much?I get a reasonable o …There’s a surprise. Why do you hate AMD so much?I get a reasonable overclock on a cheap B350 and I have done on 3 other B350 boards and with a variety of RAM sticks. Absolutely, Ryzen is fussier than Intel at the moment with DDR4 and they need to set that out - as Intel has to when they went to DDR4.You talk about a motherboard over clocking poorly yet you then say you prefer a CPU that doesn’t overclock at all?Both Intel and AMD have good options. Luckily AMD have become competitive this time and we all benefit from the price drops of of both Intel and AMD.Fanboy-ism isn’t necessary.


This isn't fanboyism, it's about buying an affordable CPU without having to add 60 quid in a good cooler and 60 more quid on 'good' RAM.

It adds up very fast.

Also, yes, there is no manual OC options, but a well running 8400 still uses built in boost modes, so you end up with a good clock rate anyway.

You say you have 4 Ryzen based boards all running OCs on B350, so what did you OC them to?

What RAM, Cooler, and Motherboard did you wind up buying for each?

I bet you 'jumped up' a bit and got the 85 quid motherboards, maybe the Gigagybte A3 Gaming or the ASRock Fatality K4?

And, let me guess, you got the 'old and trusted' Hyper Evo 212?

And RAM, can't skimp on RAM, gotta get at least 2666 mhz... So why not just bump to a cool 3000 ;-)

Every time I ask this question and ask for details, people just kinda fade out.

And yes, I'm putting words in your mouth, please, I do actually want to hear what you bought, my experience with this situation has just... Taught... Me that people love to point to the 'Cheap B350 motherboards' but no one dares to actually buy the sub 80 quid boards (most are micro ATX anyway).
here is the start of my email

Re: Delayed Order Notification

Hi,

Thank you for your order from Scan.

Please regard this email as an active notification of a delay in your order, due to a temporary shortage in stock of the following item:

1.LN81378 - *3XS ONLY* ASUS PRIME X370-PRO MotherboardThis product is still on pre-order. We are currently awaiting an ETA for this product.

is this even a new product range because it says still on pre order? it screams of a pricing error think it was meant to be 350 not 305, but that's not a deal anyway.
ADATA XPG Z1 16 GB DDR4 2400 MHz CL16 £90.70 @ Amazon
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I already have the 8gb of this RAM in my Ryzen build, but posting just in case this would be of interest to anyone. Good price for 16gb RAM based on current prices. Delivery on my… Read more
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Thanks for the offer , i managed to get a Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB Kit cheap.
DARKSABER12th Jan

The deals as dead as a dodo as its already shot up to £185


I'll sell you this ram if you want, for the same price + you pay postage, I don't want it
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AzNDeals5 h, 3 m ago

Mines just been dispatched. Was totally not expecting it at all until next …Mines just been dispatched. Was totally not expecting it at all until next weeks. Coming tomorrow; definitely not prepared myself for it!


Great isnt it. Arrived today. Installing tomorrow.
Mines just been dispatched. Was totally not expecting it at all until next weeks.
Coming tomorrow; definitely not prepared myself for it!
The deals as dead as a dodo as its already shot up to £185
Update 24th Jan - Ryzen 5 1600x - £176.14 @ Amazon
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*Price dropped further to £176.14* Price dropped slightly since the weekend.
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The_Hoff10th Jan

AMD shaved 30% off CPU prices in the last week, so give it a couple of …AMD shaved 30% off CPU prices in the last week, so give it a couple of weeks to filter in to the supply chain.Discounts should be deeper within a month.Ryzen+ out in Feb too which should also discount the 1800X and 1900X lines.


Yes but one correction. Ryzen+ (Ryzen 2000-series) is out in April not next month. And then it should be the Ryzen 2700, Ryzen 2700X and Ryzen 2800X only.
Gentle_Giant53 m ago

You understand the charts scroll sideways, there are multiples for each …You understand the charts scroll sideways, there are multiples for each slot.?The reasons it gives the Rizen the win in many cases is because of the number of poorly transcribed frames in each test; did you read the section on what is considered good, good enough and poor when it came to the transcoding ?The Rizens rarely failed to transcode every frame, and produced a high quality smooth stream with few hiccups or slow downs nearly every time.In contrast, the intel chips dropped a large percentage of frames nearly every time, and failed to produce a smooth stream, even with the few where they transcoded a high percentage.Oc'ing gave the Intel chips better in game performance, but made the streaming even worse.The conclusion is, if you just want to game, the Intel is great (but pricey); if you are one of those who like to record and post videos of you playing (like my son), the Intel chips dont cut it, whereas even a mid range Rizen can do the job, albeit at a lower total FPS game rate than the Intels can reach.Something else to think about.Remember, all of these games software was optimised for Intel; they have been the only real cpu hardware in town for a decade; now the Rizen chips are out there, game producers are going to start writing their code for all those lovely new cores; and the game performance of the Rizen chips is going to improve; the Intel chips are already at their limits, and new games will mean a big spend on new cpus to play them.Prior to Rizen, AMD chips have been so bad that I gave up on the FX and A series, and went back to an old Phenom II for gaming.


Let's start off by making sure we are talking about the same thing. I am comparing the Ryzen 1800x @4.0 to the 8700k @4.9 and the Ryzen 1600x @4.0 and the 8600k @4.9.

Costs:
R7 1800x - 287.20
R5 1600x - 197.33
I7 8700k - 347.99
I5 8600k - 247.97


1) Please, type Ryzen, it's hard to look past that...

2) Yes, the charts scroll sideways, I scrolled, I looked, I was not impressed by the difference.

3) The OC does indeed improve the % Frames delivered. I can see it right here... As you can too, just don't stop at BF1 for the 8600k, the rest don't follow that trend and it's within the margin of error. Take a look at GTAV (from 89.7 to 93.63).

Now, what I can tell you though, is no matter how good your stream is, if your *base game* can't run at 60 FPS, you will get absolutely awful streams. At no point in time should the Ryzen 5 1600x be given accolades for runing GTAV at 44.6 FPS while streaming! How can we sit here and say 'that's good' when the I5 8600k is running the game at 68.0 FPS while streaming. It's significantly easier to not drop as many frames if you are going 24 FPS slower.

This story repeats itself for Middle-Earth. Yes, there is less frames returned under 16.67 FPS, but the game is running at 53.5 FPS while stream, as opposed to the 59.5 FPS of the 8600k! So even if your stream is keeping up GPU is bottle necked so much that you are dropping at least 6.5% of your frames.

Just in case I missed it... I'm talking about the 99th percentile FPS, this is what makes a game 'buttery smooth' to play (and to stream/watch!).

A missed stream encode or a missed FPS has a very similar 'stutter' look to it, so it doesn't matter if you can stream 60 FPS if your game is only running at 45 FPS, because you are effectively stuttering the game that you are copying.

Finally, your last point... I thought I addressed this already.

The R5 and the I5 have the same core count. Yes, there are 'SMT threads' on the R5, but they are *not* good for gaming or streaming. They work ok for rendering, but it's not ideal and at best operate around 1 or slightly more cores of 'value' in perfect scenarios.

Ryzen is way better than Bulldozer and Piledriver. But that is not saying anything positive. Ryzen is a good chip on it's own, it's a value proposition and the current price ranges put it at attractive ranges for certain people (like yourself).

But don't be fooled into thinking that being able to stream at 60fps means anything if your CPU is bottlenecking the actual game FPS. And don't be shocked if your son notices his games running at 40-45 FPS while streaming, it's actually pretty noticeable once you get used to the 'smooth'.

On that subject, be careful of your freesync monitor range, many do not perform the Adaptive Sync functions below 45 FPS, and it will look *very* bad at that point.

(FreeSync is cheaper, albeit slightly lower quality than GSync, it is hard to knock 100+ in savings on a monitor).

And finally, games are still a very long ways away from 'using all those cores'. It's not a simple thing to do, and if you force a game to require more cores, you are edging out a VERY large portion of the market.

Take a look at the steam hardware survey.


store.steampowered.com/hws…us/


23% 2 core, 73% 4 core, 1.2% 6 core, and 0.43% 8 core. If you think we are 'almost there' for games utilizing more than 4 cores, then you are going to be waiting a very long time.
Nate14921 h, 7 m ago

I took a look... I looked at the charts, then read the conclusion.I don't …I took a look... I looked at the charts, then read the conclusion.I don't see your point when I look at the graphs, as the 8700k mops the floor and the 8600k is ahead in most of the benches I saw.When OC'd...R5 wins: I5 wins: BF1, GTA V, Middle-EarthIt's really strange, it's like the conclusion ignored all the 'OC'd' results?



You understand the charts scroll sideways, there are multiples for each slot.?

The reasons it gives the Rizen the win in many cases is because of the number of poorly transcribed frames in each test; did you read the section on what is considered good, good enough and poor when it came to the transcoding ?

The Rizens rarely failed to transcode every frame, and produced a high quality smooth stream with few hiccups or slow downs nearly every time.
In contrast, the intel chips dropped a large percentage of frames nearly every time, and failed to produce a smooth stream, even with the few where they transcoded a high percentage.

Oc'ing gave the Intel chips better in game performance, but made the streaming even worse.

The conclusion is, if you just want to game, the Intel is great (but pricey); if you are one of those who like to record and post videos of you playing (like my son), the Intel chips dont cut it, whereas even a mid range Rizen can do the job, albeit at a lower total FPS game rate than the Intels can reach.

Something else to think about.

Remember, all of these games software was optimised for Intel; they have been the only real cpu hardware in town for a decade; now the Rizen chips are out there, game producers are going to start writing their code for all those lovely new cores; and the game performance of the Rizen chips is going to improve; the Intel chips are already at their limits, and new games will mean a big spend on new cpus to play them.

Prior to Rizen, AMD chips have been so bad that I gave up on the FX and A series, and went back to an old Phenom II for gaming.
Gentle_Giant1 h, 50 m ago

I have PM'ed it to you.


I took a look... I looked at the charts, then read the conclusion.

I don't see your point when I look at the graphs, as the 8700k mops the floor and the 8600k is ahead in most of the benches I saw.

When OC'd...

R5 wins:
I5 wins: BF1, GTA V, Middle-Earth

It's really strange, it's like the conclusion ignored all the 'OC'd' results?
Nate14921 h, 34 m ago

No problem, I do want to see that link though!I have a feeling this is the …No problem, I do want to see that link though!I have a feeling this is the 7xxx Intel chips, which would suffer a bit more under multi load as the i5 7600k and i7 7700k only had 4 cores (the i7 had 8 threads, the i5 had 4).



I have PM'ed it to you.
StormForce Glacier Ryzen 5 8GB 128GB 2TB GTX1060 Gaming PC £879.99 @ Argos on ebay
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If u build this spec yourself u would get roughly £800 so if you want it pre built, this is the closest ;) Turbocharge your gaming experience with the StormForce Glacier Gaming P… Read more
zak_natore-107317569145892nd Jan

So basically pay £80 for assembling ? I’d rather watch videos on youtube an …So basically pay £80 for assembling ? I’d rather watch videos on youtube and learn how to do it by myself if I were a noob. I mean.. it’s quite a good and fun DIY project to do.


When people keep saying that on prebuilt machines I think people devalue their time. It’s not completely wasted time as you are learning something but it’s a significant time sink especially if the person isn’t experienced with doing it. And that’s without the time taken to also have to research what parts to pick. That’s time you could be doing something else for example earning money in your job (or doing something else outside your main job to earn an income). £80 is a fair premium for saving a minimum of a coupe of hours but for many much more
Can some tell me how this is in comparison? It’s £1020 but has a 1070 etc.

Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-6700 (4 Core,up to 4.0GHz,8MB Cache, 65W)
Windows 10 Home (64bit)
16GB (1x16GB) 2133MHz DDR4
N-ECC2 TB 3.5inch SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
256GB PCIe Solid State Drive
8X DVD+/- RW Drive
8GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Graphics Memory
XPS 8910 EPA Chassis (460W)

btw my main interests are video editing and VR
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8gb ram. Wtf
Going to have to vote cold on this one. You can get one built with the likes of DinoPC for less (same specs different case) and includes 5 years standard warranty.
zak_natore-1073175691458927 m ago

So basically pay £80 for assembling ? I’d rather watch videos on youtube an …So basically pay £80 for assembling ? I’d rather watch videos on youtube and learn how to do it by myself if I were a noob. I mean.. it’s quite a good and fun DIY project to do.


£80 for convenience saved in building, with regards the warranty which is 3 years.. and also if you are a noob, you aren't making an £800 venture which could go very wrong if you make a mistake, I don't see how that's necessarily a bad thing. For some people the time it takes to watch enough YouTube videos to be even slightly confident, let alone actually source and build the pc is worth the extra. Heat added for a good looking build, it ticks all the boxes for gaming, decent graphics card, ssd for the OS and HDD for game storage, 6gb vram and 8gb memory which could be upgraded later, lots of ports and wifi, and a decent CPU for a balanced build, it's all looking quite good...
Dell Inspiron (certified refurbished) - Ryzen 3 1200 - 8GB RAM - 1TB HDD - RX560 - Windows 10 Home - £415.92 @ Dell
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ws00743 m ago

...does anyone know who made the motherboard for this? , will it be having …...does anyone know who made the motherboard for this? , will it be having a firmware upgrade for new cpu's?


For that kind of info, your best chance is the official Dell forums.
ws00740 m ago

Was thinking of getting this in the hope of upgrading it with ryzen2 when …Was thinking of getting this in the hope of upgrading it with ryzen2 when it comes out in March, does anyone know who made the motherboard for this? , will it be having a firmware upgrade for new cpu's?


It will be a custom OEM board probably by Foxconn.
As for firmware updates, that probably depends on whether Dell introduce a new model for Ryzen 2. If they do then they may well not upgrade the firmware in this to support it.
So it's a guessing game really but if this model is fairly new that improves its chances.
Was thinking of getting this in the hope of upgrading it with ryzen2 when it comes out in March, does anyone know who made the motherboard for this? , will it be having a firmware upgrade for new cpu's?
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AMD Ryzen 5 1600 6 Core 12 Thread CPU (Ebay-Ebuyer) for £146.63
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Grab this bargain till 6pm uk time Use the code: PNY2018 to get 20% off the original price which makes it 146.63
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Rich4416 h, 21 m ago

Except most people won't touch memory products on ebay because there are …Except most people won't touch memory products on ebay because there are so many dodgy fakes around. I know usually that's SD cards but RAM gets copied too.Also memory prices change hourly so think that's pretty harsh to have a pop at someone, especially when they've asked you to actually provide a link and you side stepped the question with an attack on the op, are you a politician?


Fake RAM...
icecreamwoman10 h, 50 m ago

ebay is full of DDR4. You can't actually be interested in buying or be …ebay is full of DDR4. You can't actually be interested in buying or be looking hard enough if you didn't know this price was the norm.


That price is not the norm. It's nowhere near the norm.
icecreamwoman19 m ago

ebay is full of DDR4. You can't actually be interested in buying or be …ebay is full of DDR4. You can't actually be interested in buying or be looking hard enough if you didn't know this price was the norm.


Except most people won't touch memory products on ebay because there are so many dodgy fakes around. I know usually that's SD cards but RAM gets copied too.

Also memory prices change hourly so think that's pretty harsh to have a pop at someone, especially when they've asked you to actually provide a link and you side stepped the question with an attack on the op, are you a politician?
Ian20143 h, 34 m ago

Where? Post it at that price and should go very hot indeed! And I can do a …Where? Post it at that price and should go very hot indeed! And I can do a Ryzen build.


ebay is full of DDR4.

You can't actually be interested in buying or be looking hard enough if you didn't know this price was the norm.
icecreamwoman20 m ago

This is a bargain.Just buy 16GB of 2666MHz RAM, 2666 it's still the sweet …This is a bargain.Just buy 16GB of 2666MHz RAM, 2666 it's still the sweet spot for compatibility, price and performance. Can be found for £100-110.


Where? Post it at that price and should go very hot indeed! And I can do a Ryzen build.
RYZEN 7 1800X 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 95W Desktop Processor (through their Ebay shop) with code - ebuyer
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Using the Code: PNY2018 for 20% off ebay between 12-6pm today only, you can get this processor for £30 cheaper than amazon prime from eBuyer express's ebay shop.
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Craigmcfc9526 m ago

It's hardly difficult to follow, I think 99% of people on this site know …It's hardly difficult to follow, I think 99% of people on this site know of the ebay 20% off deal today.


You're right, so it has nothing whatsoever to do with this product.
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ITMA22 m ago

Weaselly presentation of the deal



It's hardly difficult to follow, I think 99% of people on this site know of the ebay 20% off deal today.
Weaselly presentation of the deal
why is this marked cold ?
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Desktop CPU - AM4/Hex Core/GHz/16MB/65W - £167.99 @ Amazon
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Great price.
Fantastic CPU bought mine for £195 back in june and never looked back at intel

This is such an amazing line of cpus especially if you want to do any gaming and 3d modelling ect which I do.
Slow in games.
My 2500k died 2 weeks ago. The king is dead. 😔
Very tempted to go ryzen now as my entire rig is over 5 years old. I think I got the CPU, ram and motherboard in a crazy bundle for about £375 back in 2012. Only newish part is a 8gb sapphire nitro 480.
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taras19 m ago

It hasn't changed much in the last 10 years as the base has been dual …It hasn't changed much in the last 10 years as the base has been dual core.. high ipc was the thinking back then. The oc in that graph was the i5 actually ..And yes those selection of games when combined show core bounding ..Game engines may only be updated every 18months may be a 2 or 3 year cycle.So my points stand.



Quad core processors have been very common for well over 5 years. Sandy Bridge (e.g the legendary i5 2500k) is nearly 7 years old at this point! Consoles with 8 core x86 processors are 4 years old. If you somehow think that there is a dramatic revolution immediately around the corner for massively multi-threaded games then you're severely mistaken.

There was a wide variety of games. stop moaning. They adequately reflect the current performance trend. Game engines only really dramatically change every new console generation, the current one we are nowhere near the end of yet.

Your points are bizarrely not reflective of current reality and unfounded speculation, at best. Stay on point.

Ryzen 1600 is a very good CPU, with good value, but 6700k is faster with a very thorough and wide reaching comparison that I posted proving that for the person that asked. The benches do not lie.
vulcanproject51 m ago

A wide selection of games. Cherry picking games just because you don't …A wide selection of games. Cherry picking games just because you don't like the results is not representative of the selection of games people ACTUALLY play. Most games (like >90 percent) are not extremely multi-threaded, a miniscule percentage are and that isn't changing dramatically any time soon like it hasn't the past 10 years. Intel is faster, it just usually varies by how much.The fact that the person asked about a 6700k when it is two generations old might suggest they are looking at that specific CPU because they already have a compatible board, or perhaps seen a deal on it.There were no OC 6700k scores either.


It hasn't changed much in the last 10 years as the base has been dual core.. high ipc was the thinking back then. The oc in that graph was the i5 actually ..

And yes those selection of games when combined show core bounding ..

Game engines may only be updated every 18months may be a 2 or 3 year cycle.

So my points stand.
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